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I just read a translation of Prem Sumarag by a notorious nonSikh "expert" on Sikhism. Has anyone read this Prem Sumarag. What do you think of it? Any chance of expanding my knowledge of this through discussion.
Prem Sumarag - Have You Read It?
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dalsingh101
, Mar 31 2008 10:22 AM
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 10:22 AM
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 01:22 PM
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i guess you read the translation by Mcleod. No the greatest. It is said to be a granth by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji.
Paap Sunbooh Binasun Ko Kaalkee Avtaar Kahavingay.
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
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Posted 31 March 2008 - 02:03 PM
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From what I know (admittedly little), it's an anonymous granth probably written in the 19th century. Some parts are pretty controversial....
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 07:32 AM
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Isn't there a translation by Bhai Randhir Singh? Or am I mistaken.
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 11:53 AM
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Isn't there a translation by Bhai Randhir Singh? Or am I mistaken.
Well the translation I read (of McLeods) was of Randhir Singh's Panjabi edition. Is this the Bhai Randhir Singh of AKJ fame?
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 12:58 PM
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what is the gist of this granth?
So, I have a request for all of you who have cut their kesh and beards and have the name "Singh". I put my hands together and ask, 'Please, become my brothers'. And only become my brothers if you think I'm good. If you think I'm a low-life then don't at all become my brothers. If you call me good, then you'll have to keep your kesh and beards, give up liquor and if you call me a low-life, I'll be quiet and sit down and leave you alone.
Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
The chatanga in my avatar pic is my new best friend.
Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
The chatanga in my avatar pic is my new best friend.
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 01:55 PM
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it is in a nut shell and ode to the khalsa
Paap Sunbooh Binasun Ko Kaalkee Avtaar Kahavingay.
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
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Posted 01 April 2008 - 02:12 PM
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Ajai Su Rabh Naa BohaRiou Daykh Banday Kai Bhaag
it is in a nut shell and ode to the khalsa
I would disagree. It is some sort of manual of ceremonies. Codes of conduct. The part I found most interesting was the political or statecraft section outlining how a ruler should rule.
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 03:58 AM
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The stuff i have on the prem sumarag granth is more on the khalsa from the pages i have, will have to get the book. The Mukat Marag Granth i thought was more to do with ceremonies and conduct
Paap Sunbooh Binasun Ko Kaalkee Avtaar Kahavingay.
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
Turkuch Toorang sapach bado kar kaad kirpaan kampayingay.
Nickshay jim kaher parbat tay tas sobh divaliya pavagay.
bhal bhaag bhaya ih sumbhal kay har joo har mandar avaigay.
(KalKee Avtar Pauree 141)
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Posted 02 April 2008 - 04:37 AM
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is MUkat Marg Grnath part of Prem Sumarg or different? if different is it written by Guru Dasam?
So, I have a request for all of you who have cut their kesh and beards and have the name "Singh". I put my hands together and ask, 'Please, become my brothers'. And only become my brothers if you think I'm good. If you think I'm a low-life then don't at all become my brothers. If you call me good, then you'll have to keep your kesh and beards, give up liquor and if you call me a low-life, I'll be quiet and sit down and leave you alone.
Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
The chatanga in my avatar pic is my new best friend.
Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale
The chatanga in my avatar pic is my new best friend.
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