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[khalsaland]

Darshan Ragi has been invited to Germany on the occassion of tri-centenary celebrations. He is going to participate in a seminar on the 3rd October in Frankfurt.

This drama queen is again going to speak against Nitnem and Dasam banees as he has been doing on numerous occassions.

He has already defied Akal Takhat hukamnamas that have specifically warned him to stop his 'koor-prachar'.

Sangat in Germany needs to be educated on his anti-panthic deeds, and his actions need to be checked.

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http://www.santsipahi.org/patshahi10/chargesheet-darshan-singh.html

Why is Darshan Singh facing the wrath of the Panth?

The charges against Prof Darshan Singh for using derogatory remarks for Guru Gobind Singh Sahib's banee and becoming a turn coat from his earlier beliefs are very serious and cannot be ignored.

For some time now Darshan Singh has been cashing every opportunity to attack the banees of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. Maybe under some misunderstand that his blasphemy will go unchecked he increased his assault on Gurbanee, Guitihas and Gurmaryada.

Now that finally the Panth has taken a serious cognizance of this, it is important that his blasphemy, hypocrisy and the charges against him be brought in front of the sangat.

It might be difficult to understand the U-turn of Darshan Singh from his own earlier beliefs and sermons, but it is not difficult to understand which group's skewed ideological views he is serving. All Panthic organizations have been unanimous in condemning Darshan Singh. As expected only a handful of people and groups who are vocally supportive of excommunicated Kala Afghana and his skewed ideology have come to his support.

If what Darshan Singh has said would have come from an unknown individual then his views would have been ignored as heretic. Because Darshan Singh's novel views even contradict his own previous position it is important to bring this to the notice of the Panth.

Just to ensure that the genuine issues surrounding Prof. Darshan Singh's blasphemous comments are not faded, here is a brief gist of things because of which Darshan Singh has faced the wrath of the Panth and Panthic institutions:

1. Darshan Singh says, "Even the Gurbanee of Guru Gobind Singh ji cannot be accepted, if it is not according to Gurmat".

Is the Guru and Gurmat two separate entities?

2. Darshan Singh claims "Guru Gobind Singh ji's writings are mere literature".

This was exactly the stand of excommunicated Kala Afghana that the writings of Guru Gobind Singh ji cannot be considered as Gurbanee. If Darshan Singh's views are taken to be true then where is the concept of banees of nitnem and amrit sanchar? All through these years was he doing the Keertan of literature and not of Gurbanee? Are Sikhs baptized with literature and not Gurbanee? Do millions of Sikhs around the world recite literature for their Nitnem?

3. Serving some petty political agenda Darshan Singh like Baba Ram Rai even dared to distort the banee by misquoting ਬੇਮੁਖ ਬਦਲ ਚਾਲ ਹੈ ਕੂੜੋ ਆਲਾਏ (bemukh badal chal) as ਬੇਮੁਖ ਬਾਦਲ ਚਾਲ ਹੈ ਕੂੜੋ ਆਲਾਏ (bemukh baadal chaal).

4. Guru Gobind Singh Sahib's autobiography, The Bachittar Natak is the only source where the primary evidence of the martyrdom of Guru Teg Bahadur Sahib is canonized by Lord's own pen. All through his life Darshan Singh had been doing Katha and Keertan from it. And now he had the audacity to denigrate and speak volumes of filth against this indispensable source of Gur Itihas and Gurmat and that too while performing Keertan at Rakab Ganj Sahib, the gurdwara associated with Guruji's martyrdom. The walls of all the gurdwaras of Delhi associated with Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib resonate day and night with cantos from Bachittar Natak during Ardas.

Once Dr. Fauja Singh acknowledged the Persian chronicles's version of Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib's martyrdom, and he had to face the wrath of the Panth for ignoring the primary evidence given by Guru Gobind Singh Sahib. As a result he sought forgiveness for having overlooked that primary evidential source of martyrdom given in Bachittar Natak.

Now by attacking Bachittar Natak and Dasam Banee Prof. Ragi has tried to behead Guru Tegh Bahadur ji once again by killing the primary evidence of Guru ji's martyrdom. Ironically Darshan Singh himself has been doing the Katha and Keertan of Bachittar Natak.

5. Bhai Gurdas II is the author of the Vaar wherein he has clearly mentioned that Khalsa was created as a third religion separate from Hindus and the Muslims. 'Peeyo Pahul Khand-dhaar Hove Janam Sohela, Wah Wah Gobind Singh Aape Gur Chela', and 'Gur-sangat Keeni Khalsa' is from his pen. Now Ragi Darshan Singh has also aimed his guns at this by using derogatory language for Bhai Gurdas II.

6. Kala Afghana was excommunicated from the Sikh Panth for his blasphemous writings aimed at disintegrating the very fabric of Khalsa traditions and Gurmat. Now Darshan Singh has tried to occupy his mantle by openly praising Kala Afghana in his writings.

7. Last year at Dayal Pura Bhai Ka, Bathinda on the celebrations of Zafarnama day, only the parkash of Guru Granth Sahib was done. Darshan Singh has repeatedly lied that there was also the parkash of Sri Dasam Granth. For this a hukamanama from Akal Takhat Sahib was issued warning sangat to beware of him and his lies.

8. As per the Panthic maryada of Sachkhand Sri Harimandir Sahib, one of the statutory conditions for the appointment of a granthi or Singh Sahib is that he should be able to do the Katha of both Sri Guru Granth Sahib and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib. Darshan Singh has the audacity to speak against the Dasam Banee and hence has debarred himself from holding the title of Singh Sahib. Even after this if keeps on calling himself Singh Sahib then it is nothing but hypocrisy.

9. It is strange that Prof. Darshan Singh is now speaking against his own Keertan and has defied his own Katha by which he had inculcated the Sikhi spirit in the minds and hearts of the masses.

10. Before and after his tenure as Jathedar Akal Takhat Sahib Darshan Singh did perform Keertan from Dasam Banee at Takhat Sri Patna Sahib and Takhat Sri Hazur Sahib but now with tongue in cheek he is saying that he did not know there was parkash of Sri Dasam Granth.

All through these years Darshan Singh had earned respect as a Panthic ragi by his devotion and belief in the Gurbanee. He himself has ceased that respect by denigrating the same banees.

These are serious issues requiring serious considerations. IHRO, AKJ and various Panthic organizations are fulfilling their Panthic and religious duty by bringing this out to the sangat.

Knowingly or unknowingly Darshan Singh is serving the cause of those who are aligned to the distorted and ostracized ideology of Kala Afghana, by becoming a handle of their anti-Panthic axe. This is evident from the support he is getting from these quarters. These people will come to the rescue of anyone who will accomplish their agenda of damaging the Sikh principles. The above views of Darshan Singh clearly prove that point.

Related Links

Akal Takhat Sahib Hukamnama regarding Prof. Darshan Singh DOCUMENT
'Akhand Kirtani Jatha' regarding Prof. Darshan Singh PRESS RELEASE
Panthic organizations in Canada take notice of Darshan Singh's blasphemy PRESS RELEASE
IHRO Press release on Prof. Darshan Singh PRESS RELEASE
Prof. Darshan Singh and Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

Meaning of word 'Ram' in Sikhism. ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ. Prof Darshan Singh performs kirtan from Ramavtaar in Sri Dasam Granth Sahib and explains the real meaning of 'Ram' referred in Gurbani.

ਧੰਨ ਜੀਓ ਤਿਹ ਕੋ ਜਗ ਮੈ ਮੁਖ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਚਿੱਤ ਮੈ ਜੁਧੁ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ - Prof Darshan Singh performs Kirtan and Katha from Krishnavtar from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

ਹਮ ਇਹ ਕਾਜ ਜਗਤ ਮੋ ਆਏ - Bachittar Natak - Prof Darshan Singh performs kirtan from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

Prof. Darshan Singh performs Kirtan from Krishnavtar (ਛਤ੍ਰੀ ਕੋ ਪੂਤ ਹੋ),Chandi Charitar (ਦੇਹ ਸਿਵਾ), Bachittar Natak and other banis from Sri Dasam Granth Sahib

Source of Prof. Darshan Singh's Kirtan in his own words
Jagat Tamasha- An article based on Bachittar Natak written by Prof. Darshan Singh

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[Inder Singh]

Darshan Ragi has been invited to Germany on the occassion of tri-centenary celebrations. He is going to participate in a seminar on the 3rd October in Frankfurt.....

You have taken the words out of my mouth. I posted about this on waheguroo netwrok but they took it down.

There is an ad running in www.ajitjalandhar.com where the name of sponsor Gurudwaras are given with tel no.

Let us start a telephone compaign to stop this anti sikh Ragi Darshan singh.He has to be tackled by our cooperation and dedication.

Letr otehrs who love sikhism suggest their ways to tame this bull Darshan Ragi.

[khalsa88]

fateh ji,

i'm from munich but my cousin lives there

[khalsa88]

aww man hes in US i forgot that
can anyone tell me what to do? i will give them
a call... but u guys gotta tell me what to say?!?

[khalsaland]

fateh ji,

i'm from munich but my cousin lives there

Khalsa88 Ji!

Tell your cousin to print the following documents and pass them on to the organisers...Also if he can distribute them among the sangat then that will be a great seva...

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Akal Takhat Sahib Hukamnama regarding Prof. Darshan Singh (January 8, 2007)

Why is Prof. Darshan Singh facing the wrath of the Panth?

Panthic Weekly: Darshan Singh's Anti-Dasam Granth Phobia (op/ed)

Panthic Weekly: Toronto Sangat: Ragi Darshan Singh should refrain ...

Panthic Weekly: Ragi Darshan Singh: A Jathedar from Bollywood ...

Panthic Weekly: Akhand Kirtani Jatha Challenges Ragi Darshan Singh

[Vahejeo]

Check out these videos:

http://www.panthic.o...2008-09-12.html

[Mike Singh]

Why doesnt Ragi Darshan Singh go to Hazur Sahib on the 300 sal celebraions and speak his nonsense there? Beacuse he wouldn't stand a chance...so hence he goes to places where he cannot be challenged and he can keep speaking his nonsense.

Well lets see what the German sangat can do to stop this enemy of the Panth?

[Inder Singh]

aww man hes in US i forgot that
can anyone tell me what to do? i will give them
a call... but u guys gotta tell me what to say?!?

Please tell them that Darshan singh is violating akal takhat sahib's hukamnama by propagating gainst bani of Guru Gobind singh ji. This bani is in Dasam Granth.

There has been no contgroversey in sikh panth for all these years till missionary Bhag singh Ambla wrote a book against this bani. He was excommunicated and later he asked for pardon.

Now Kala afghana and recently darshan singh is propagating against this bani.

Darshan singh has no scholarship to understand dasam Granth as it is a very complex Granth having use of metaphors, symbolism, myths etc. For example in SGGS comes Gurmukh sang krishan murari. Here it is wring to interpret krishan murari as Hindu demi God krishan. Here Guru ji refres to akal Purakh.

Similarly when tenth master writes in Dasam Granth

Mahkal hai pita hamara
DEb kal ka maat hamara

The above is not refrence to Shiva or any Hindu devi. It is reference to Great kal and
of kal ( Kal Ka). Kal here means death that everybody has to face.

Darshan isngh is preaching mischievously wrong about the above.

In a nutshell Ragi darshan singh is a sell out man who was doing kirtan of this bani and is turning against this now.

[humkire]

Highly controversial intellectual , theological ,historical,religous ,philosophical,legalistic differences of opinion over a number of issues do exist in the khalsa panth and some people prefer to preach about them and some dont .I wish we could be less emotional ,more rational and learn to tolerate this a bit more and allow more research to be done on this matters so that in time we could have unified progressive opinions about things based on the absolute truth .Likewise ,it would be great if our hearts are filled with love for one another not venomous hatred .Its always easier to be judgemental ,hate and be violent with people when they appear to be in a destruct mode towards that which is sacred to you ,as happens in other religous communities .Its more difficult to show emotional restraint ,modesty ,love and respect towards someone you deem to be straying away from whats an untouchable part of your belief structure .However that only causes division amongst us and makes us appear to be intolerant and spiteful and unrestrained .The way to win someone over and convince them that your opinion is right is to do research ,to sit with that person and reason things out as we do in our families .

Khalsa panth is greater and bigger ,more resilient ,more powerful than anything upon earth leave alone one individual .Opinions will come and go ,so will us mortals but GURU GRANTH SAHIB is indestructible and eternal .All we can do is to appreciate anything ,anyone has done ,even once for sikhi ,in their one lifetime we knew about and love them for it .

In my life, many a time ,he who i thought was right was wrong ,and he who i thought was wrong was right .This has taught me never to bother too much about people and their opinions but to focus on loving them as God's little creatures of whom i am one ,to always give a person the benefit of doubt ,to also question everything i hold sacred ,to be tolerant ,to be forgiving ,to be appreciative of anything anyone has ever done for me ,to never hate any person to the point of wanting them dead and to live in a hope that if i am right i would try to convince that person if need be .

It hurts my heart to see us sikhs indulging in hatred towards each other ,to be violent with each other ,to be accusing each other ,and to be spiteful towards each other ,and to have divisions and sub cliques between ourselves .May Gurujee bless us with his grace to learn to live together so lovingly as one big khalsa family .

[Inder Singh]

Highly controversial intellectual , theological ,historical,religous ,philosophical,legalistic differences of opinion over a number of issues do exist in the khalsa panth and some people prefer to preach about them and some dont .I wish we could be less emotional ,more rational and learn to tolerate this a bit more and allow more research to be done on this matters so that in time we could have unified progressive opinions about things based on the absolute truth .Likewise ,it would be great if our hearts are filled with love for one another not venomous hatred .Its always easier to be judgemental ,hate and be violent with people when they appear to be in a destruct mode towards that which is sacred to you ,as happens in other religous communities .Its more difficult to show emotional restraint ,modesty ,love and respect towards someone you deem to be straying away from whats an untouchable part of your belief structure .However that only causes division amongst us and makes us appear to be intolerant and spiteful and unrestrained .The way to win someone over and convince them that your opinion is right is to do research ,to sit with that person and reason things out as we do in our families ......

Nobody is preaching violence here. All you are saying is that we should not even discuss this issue here.

Those who know sikh history, scriptures and sikh traditions know that Darshan singh Ragi is dead wrong. He is indulging in baseless propaganda without any knowledge of Dasam Granth. Since when such discussion has become violence.