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Sorry sangat jio, but this is not related to sikhi, dont know where else to ask, but would be grateful if anybody especially older sangat could answer this question.
Our elders have always gone on about kodee-tharn,if i have spelled that right, and if it falls its hard to digest food or walk, etc, and causes many problems.
I know its in the abdomen area, but dont know whats called in english, and doctors dont seem to know either if u ask them. Also tried searching on the net, but to no avail no answers. So what exactly is the tharn and kodee in english. how do u go about telling a specialist u have that problem?
Please if anybody could enlighten me on this. Thanku jiooo.
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, Feb 02 2011 05:28 AM
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 05:28 AM
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 06:33 AM
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This is how understand the dharan problem. There is a energy centre point right beneath your belly button, it's not physical so medical science does not and can not know about it. In some people, this centre point can move away from underneath the belly button. When this happens, it can cause many problems in the person. Problems will likely be unique to each individual. I used to have this issue frequently in the past, luckily I found what was triggering it. I used to have a banana in the morning and every few days I would get this dharan problem. Gave up having banana on empty stomach and have not had it in months 
I'm not sure why this 'energy centre' moves out of alignment, but I would guess it's somehow linked to your digestive system. So, how do you fix it? It's quite a simple fix.
- Take a smaller towel, roll it and make it into a circle
- Lie face down, place this now rolled/circular towel right underneath your belly button
- Reach toward the back and grab both your ankles, left ankle with left hand and right ankle with right
- Now pull yourself up by pulling on the legs as hard as you can; this will lift your upper body off the floor (this is the pose you are going for: http://www.anmolmeht...ga-bow-pose.jpg)
Do not hold your breath while doing this; if you have a tough time breathing while holding the pose it may help to take a deep breath first then release the breath as you get into the pose. This must be done on an empty stomach.
Don't use a full bath towel as those will get quite large when made into a circle. I use those half towels that you normally see in bathrooms. Basically, it's suppose to cover your belly button and the area around it, a few inches at most. You want to be careful if you have a back problem, might be a good idea to slowly work up the intensity and tension. If done correctly, this will re-align that 'energy centre' and you will feel much better almost instantly.
I hope that helps.
I'm not sure why this 'energy centre' moves out of alignment, but I would guess it's somehow linked to your digestive system. So, how do you fix it? It's quite a simple fix.
- Take a smaller towel, roll it and make it into a circle
- Lie face down, place this now rolled/circular towel right underneath your belly button
- Reach toward the back and grab both your ankles, left ankle with left hand and right ankle with right
- Now pull yourself up by pulling on the legs as hard as you can; this will lift your upper body off the floor (this is the pose you are going for: http://www.anmolmeht...ga-bow-pose.jpg)
Do not hold your breath while doing this; if you have a tough time breathing while holding the pose it may help to take a deep breath first then release the breath as you get into the pose. This must be done on an empty stomach.
Don't use a full bath towel as those will get quite large when made into a circle. I use those half towels that you normally see in bathrooms. Basically, it's suppose to cover your belly button and the area around it, a few inches at most. You want to be careful if you have a back problem, might be a good idea to slowly work up the intensity and tension. If done correctly, this will re-align that 'energy centre' and you will feel much better almost instantly.
I hope that helps.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 07:29 AM
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Is it really not a medical issue?!!?? My mother occasionally has to re-align her 'dharan' every few months. I never knew it was spiritual.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:54 AM
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Thanku jiii oh twadi, sorry not sure if ur a veerji or bhenji, but u have explained everything very good.
I will try that, think it may hurt lieing down like that, as not too strong nowadays but give it a go.
so its an energy point? thats weird, coz u can actually feel it, and how come goreh, no offence or racism here, dont know wat it is. Only seems that asians hve this prob. Do u know what the koddee is, is that totally different?
Thanku jiii oh twadi, sorry not sure if ur a veerji or bhenji, but u have explained everything very good.
I will try that, think it may hurt lieing down like that, as not too strong nowadays but give it a go.
so its an energy point? thats weird, coz u can actually feel it, and how come goreh, no offence or racism here, dont know wat it is. Only seems that asians hve this prob. Do u know what the koddee is, is that totally different?
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:14 PM
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could someone please elaborate more on what this is? it sounds interesting and i don't really get it as well as you guys.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:33 PM
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wait! Do you have kodee or dharan? I was under the impression that they were different things. But I just talked to my dad and he said they are the same. He didn't sound too convincing though 
So, Kaljugi bhaji can you please check with your mata ji to see if they are the same or not? I would request the bibi to hold off on doing anything until we clarify the issue.
Based on experience, when my dharan has gone off in the past, it really makes you feel weak. Simple things like picking up a towel off the floor get hard. You just feel this great weakness in your stomach at all times. There is a way to check if you have dharan or not, I'm blurry on the details so let me check with my dad and I'll update.
So, Kaljugi bhaji can you please check with your mata ji to see if they are the same or not? I would request the bibi to hold off on doing anything until we clarify the issue.Based on experience, when my dharan has gone off in the past, it really makes you feel weak. Simple things like picking up a towel off the floor get hard. You just feel this great weakness in your stomach at all times. There is a way to check if you have dharan or not, I'm blurry on the details so let me check with my dad and I'll update.
Sorry, I guess I was not clear enough. It is not a spiritual issue but a physical issue, as it impacts how your body functions. However, it's not physical in the sense you can touch it etc, which is why I said medical science can not know about it.Is it really not a medical issue?!!?? My mother occasionally has to re-align her 'dharan' every few months. I never knew it was spiritual.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 01:38 PM
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Sunsingh veerji i have actually been trying to find out for years what the equivalent of this in english terminology and not got anywhere. Oh twadi veerji/bhenji has said its an energy point. But its mostly a problem with females if the alignment is not right and makes life very hard for some. In india they seem to know more about it, or the elder generation than us, so is best to ask a siahna if u know anybody, they will tell u straight away what it is, but unfortunately i have no contact with any siahne. just wish there was sombody to help.
Sunsingh veerji i have actually been trying to find out for years what the equivalent of this in english terminology and not got anywhere. Oh twadi veerji/bhenji has said its an energy point. But its mostly a problem with females if the alignment is not right and makes life very hard for some. In india they seem to know more about it, or the elder generation than us, so is best to ask a siahna if u know anybody, they will tell u straight away what it is, but unfortunately i have no contact with any siahne. just wish there was sombody to help.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:05 PM
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Okay, so I just asked my mother and she says that 'dharan' and 'khodee' are two completely different things. From what I gleaned from her, the 'dharan' is the unknown, untouchable "thing" that OhTwadi very ably described. The 'khodee' is.....well I didn't completely understand what it is, lol.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:30 PM
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Here is what I know of 'kodee'. I maybe well off here....Think of it as a gate which only opens one way, it rests at the top of your stomach. This allows for food etc to easily pass through and not come back up. When you have 'kodee', this gate can flip, which means that you can't eat anything. I was told even swallowing water can be hard at times! The person who was telling me about it, he saw an older mataji who basically stabbed his stomach with her two fingers and flipped his 'kodee' back to the correct side. He said he felt relief right away.
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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:53 PM
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Behold! the English term for 'dharan' (Courtesy of our SS webmaster) ** fan fare **
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