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[lsingh]

India has supported a UN resolution calling the war by Sri Lanka against the Tamils War Crimes. This was done under pressure from Indian Tamils and the state of Tamil Nadu putting pressure on the Delhi Govt.

Will the Badal/BJP/RSS/Sant Samaj group put pressure on Delhi for an investigation of human rights violations in the Punjab?

PM placates Lanka, writes to Rajapaksa on UN vote
Ashok Tuteja/TNS

New Delhi, March 24
With sentiments running high against India in Colombo, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh today wrote to Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa seeking to explain why India had supported the US-sponsored UN Human Right Council resolution against the island nation on 'war crimes.'
The Prime Minister told the Lankan leader that India had spared no effort and was successful in introducing an element of balance in the language of the resolution.
''I had instructed our delegation to remain in close contact with its Lankan counterparts in an attempt to find a positive way forward,'' he said amid apprehensions in New Delhi that Lanka would now start tilting heavily towards China, which had opposed the resolution, to make India somewhat uncomfortable.
Manmohan said India would continue its engagement with Lanka with the shared objective of building a stable, secure and prosperous environment in the island nation in which all communities can flourish and ties between the two nations can continue to grow from strength to strength.
The PM's letter is being seen as a conciliatory move by New Delhi, which voted against Lanka ostensibly due to pressure from political parties in Tamil Nadu. At the same time, however, there is a growing feeling in India that Sri Lanka had done little to provide succour to the Tamil community after the end of the prologned conflict.
Colombo has also not moved much on implementing the recommendations of the Lessons Learnt and Reconcilation Commission (LLRC), set up after the conflict.

[singh135]

if only Sikhs could generate that kind of pressure

[confusedsengh]

Have they forgot 1984?

[dashmesh1984]

LOL

[lsingh]

The Americans are pushing a UN resolution for the investigation of human rights violations in Sri Lanka during the war with the Tamil Tigers (See how a strong lobby can bring results).. Indian Tamil parties have got India to support this move and are pushing to make the UN resolution stronger ,even though India does not support Human rights investigation fearing similar ones would be called for in Kashmir and other areas. Compare this with our own Sikh politicians of all parties who are mostly either silent or support Indian Genocide of Sikhs.

 

 

Lankan Tamils issue: Centre tries to placate DMK after exit threat
Ashok Tuteja
Tribune News Service

 

New Delhi, March 16
Faced with the DMK threat to pull out of the ruling coalition, the UPA government today reassured its partner that a decision over India’s vote on the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) resolution on the alleged violation of human rights in Sri Lanka would be taken keeping in mind the sentiments of the people of Tamil Nadu.

 

With the issue likely to dominate the national discourse in India in the run-up to the resolution being moved by the US at the UNHRC meet in Geneva next week, Minister of State in the Prime Minister’s Office V Narayanasamy said Prime Minister Manmohan Singh would “definitely consider all aspects” and take a decision on the issue that would be in the overall national interest.

 

“In Tamil Nadu, the issue is very emotive and sensitive for the people and political parties. Therefore, the DMK and its leader M Karunanidhi have mentioned the sentiments on that,” he said. The DMK, a key constituent of the coalition at the Centre, wants India to make efforts to bring about amendments to the US-backed resolution in the UNHRC to seek an independent international probe into the “genocide” allegedly committed by Sri Lankan forces during the last phase of the war with the LTTE in 2009.

 

On Friday night, Karunanidhi had said: “India should take steps to amend the American resolution to include that war criminals responsible for the “genocide” (of Tamils) in Sri Lanka be identified, hold a free international inquiry against them and take time-bound appropriate action.

 

“If this request is not heeded, it will be meaningless for the DMK to continue in the Central Government,” he added. On Saturday, Karunanidhi admitted that the Central Government had not responded to his Friday threat. “That is why we have issued the statement (on Saturday).”

 

Narayanasamy said the Prime Minister had already informed Parliament that the government was committed to protecting the Tamil minority in Sri Lanka.

 

India is one of the 47 member countries of the current UNHRC. Last year, India voted in favour of a similar resolution that berated Colombo for rights abuses and more.

 

Meanwhile, Sri Lanka continued to make friendly gestures towards India, hoping that New Delhi would remain soft towards it at the UNHRC meet. Thirty-four Indian fishermen were released by Sri Lanka today. They left for India after spending a night in Jaffna.

 

Taking a tough stand

 

With 18 MPs in the Lok Sabha, the DMK has one Union minister and four junior ministers in the Union council of ministers

 

DMK chief M Karunanidhi (pic) wants India to press for a probe into the alleged genocide that took place in Sri Lanka

[HSD2]

The only reason the west cares about the tamils is because how distant Sri Lanka has gone from India and the West. Cosying up to China brings this kind of grief.

 

[GtLoc]

The only reason the west cares about the tamils is because how distant Sri Lanka has gone from India and the West. Cosying up to China brings this kind of grief.

 

No, it's because they act like the racial system's version of what 'brown' should be:

 

Black-skinned folks who act white.

 

if only Sikhs could generate that kind of pressure

Google commrical lien process, and you can start a private prosecution not smart to do alone have a group and a semi-popular following so it costs more to get rid of you than to let you through. Then go to India.

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Force the system to fight itself. Example is put lien on manmohan singh, or the congress mps who helped 1984.

 

At that point, what can they do? Remember the system isn't mps vs regular workers. It's bankers vs them vs us.

 

If you have a properly filed lien, you have their masters on your side vs them.

 

Even if they don't fulfill the taking assets part of a lien, you have still destroyed someone's credit.

 

Bharat politicians are still slaves to fiat money. You have dealt a death-inducing blow.

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The difference, between westeren countries and India is that in western countries the system is built for the benefit of the people but has been turned around. In India from the start, it was built against us, aka they learned from the western ruler's mistakes.

 

All that means is you aim higher.

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Btw, I see many people in love with western countries police here are just as, if not more corrupt.

 

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I live in a community called Rexdale in Toronto, since november in a block called Jamestown which has about 1-2000 people there have been 3 or 4 bodies all of youth 16 or under.

 

That would put the murder rate here at 3-400+ per 100,000.

 

Police here, roll up on kids and beat them; steal weed from youth, threaten raids and many other things.

 

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They are as corrupt as society will tolerate.

 

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People get the government they deserve.

 

TL;DR. Everyone in the system is complicit in these crimes, the only way out is out of it.

 

If life is a war, then concepts of the battlefield apply.

 

1. First aid = putting massive personal pressure on mps to get them scared, and getting people out of jails

 

Let's start with that.

 

We don't need more than 4 or 5 steps, and 30 or 40 years to get a khalsa rule in all but name.

 

After that, it's just paper-work.

 

Punjab is a small place, much smaller than Canada, or America (not just size) everyone is connected and knows each other.

 

Greatest strength (for us) greatest weakness (for them).

 

Allows us to strike quickly and efficiently and cause maximal damage.

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The elites have only just started to diversy their assets and are very vulnerable at this time. They still use the same infrastructure as everyone else, and so are not savvy with things such as the internet, technology, etc.

 

Badal doesn't have a smartphone. Is what I'm trying to say.

 

Posting new thread.

[lsingh]

UN vote on Human Rights for Tamils

 

 

A key regional ally has pulled out of India's ruling coalition over the government's failure to condemn alleged atrocities against Sri Lankan Tamils.

 

The DMK party's 18 MPs will not support the Congress party-led government. Five MPs who are ministers in the government will also resign from the cabinet.

 

A senior minister said the government was "stable" and would remain in power.

 

The DMK is the main opposition party in the southern state of Tamil Nadu which has a large population of Tamils.

 

DMK chief M Karunanidhi has demanded that the Congress-led United Progressive Alliance (UPA) government pass a resolution in parliament condemning alleged atrocities committed by Sri Lankan forces against Tamils during the island's long civil war.

 

He has also protested against the Indian government's position on a resolution on alleged war crimes in Sri Lanka which is before the United Nations Human Rights Council - he wants India to push for stronger language in the resolution, including the use of the word "genocide".

'Condemn it'
 

"The issues raised by the DMK haven't been addressed by the Congress, thus this is a government that doesn't benefit the Tamils in any way," Mr Karunanidhi, told a press conference in Chennai (Madras) on Tuesday.

 

"And even after this, if we continue to extend our support to the government, it is a shame to Tamil Nadu... Thus the DMK has decided, and we are announcing our immediate withdrawal from the central government and the UPA," he said.

 

"India, despite being the biggest democratic country, hasn't addressed the issues raised by the DMK, and they have chosen to ignore the problems of the Tamils. These are completely anti-democratic acts by them. I totally condemn it," Mr Karunanidhi said.

 

Immediately after Mr Karunanidhi's press conference, the government said it still had a majority in parliament.

 

Finance Minister P Chidambaram, who met Mr Karunanidhi on Monday night to try talk him round, said there was no crisis and the "government is absolutely stable, it will stay in power".

 

Mr Chidambaram said the government was deciding its position on the UN vote and was consulting its allies on a resolution by parliament.

 

The government, which needs 271 MPs to stay in power, still has the support of at least 280 MPs. Elections are due next year.

 

Correspondents say there is no immediate threat to the government, but the DMK pullout will make it more difficult for it to pass legislation - the Congress party is dependent on several regional allies for support in parliament.

 

The government lost another important ally - the Trinamool Congress party of West Bengal - last September which pulled out over the government's plan to open the retail sector to global supermarket chains and other reforms.