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[Singh559]

http://www.sikh24.co...istrict-village

Sooner we realize no one is out to help our Panth in Punjab, the better. Sant Samaj is no different, they're all whipped and can't make any difference in Punjab. It's Badal and indian government's way to hush up Sangat abroad and give us fake knights in armor promising to protect the kingdom.

Punjab | August 21, 2012, 5:50 pm


BREAKING: 40 Sikhs Convert to Christianity in a Tarn Taran District Village

Gurdwara Management's Treatment of "Low Caste" Sikhs Calls for Strict Action
By: Sikh24 Editors

Gurdwara Baba Bir Singh in village Dhotian, district Tarn Taran

AMRITSAR SAHIB (August 21, 2012)–According to sources, today at approximately 3:30pm (India time), 40 Sikhs have converted to Christianity in the village Dhotian (ਢੌਟੀਆਂ) in district Tarn Taran. There are 31 Gurdwaras in the village and one historical shrine, Gurdwara Raja Ram in memory of Baba Bir Singh Naurangabad. Langar is served in the village’s large Gurdwara, but the Mahzbi Sikhs, or so-called “low castes,” are refused entry–contrary to the tenants of the Sikh faith.

Baba Jagtar Singh, Kar Sewa Wale

For the past few years, Baba Jagtar Singh of Tarn Taran Sahib has been doing ‘Kar Sewa’ (construction service). They have demolished the historical Gurdwara and rebuilt it in the name of sewa. Millions of rupees have been spent on the construction of a Gate and Langar Hall in which the so-called low castes are not allowed entry. Baba Jagtar Singh and the rest of his sewadars (volunteers) have been witnessed talking down to the so-called low caste Sikhs.
This was the first missionary tour by the Christians in the village, which has led to 40 conversions of Sikhs who originate from the so-called low caste backgrounds. It is likely in the next missionary tour they will construct a church in the village.
It is noteworthy that this is the village of the writer Jagjit Singh who authored the book ‘Sikh Inqalaab’ (Sikh Revolution) in which he strongly condemned the caste system and caste discrimination, in line with the Sikh faith. Since the time of the early Sikh Gurus, this village has been on the forefront for giving sacrifices for the Sikh religion and maintaining the Sikh religion.
One of the leaders of the local Sikh youth who have been fighting the so-called “Kar Sewa Sant” (Jagtar Singh) and caste discrimination said, “If the Christians make a church then they will invest 50,000 rupees because they want the poor Sikhs (from the lower social backgrounds) to join them and give them equal status.”
One group of Christian missionaries is very active on the banks of the River Beas in the village Dhahian. The ‘Mahzbi’ Sikhs in the villages where great Sikh freedom fighters hailed from like Shaheed Bhai Manochahal, Sangha, Naushira, Vein Poin, Nagoke, Sakheera and others are being groomed and converting to Christianity in large numbers. Churches are being constructed in which they are getting children to sing the praises of Jesus on loud speakers so that all the villagers can hear.
Sikh groups are asking Akal Takht Sahib to take strict action against the Saadh Jagtar Singh and his men who are not only demolishing historical Gurdwaras in the name of ‘Kar Sewa’ but committing a grave sin in the garb of Sikhs by pushing the poor and Mahzbi Sikhs away from the Sikh religion.

[TheFancyBanana]

wow................ what the hell is this? refused entry??? claim they were doing seva? what happened to "gareeb da mooh guru nanak ki golak"? why didnt they spend those wasted rupees on a bloody gate on poor sikhs?

[KhalistaniGunMan]

Terrible...its about time everytone gets involved in some form of parchaar when they are in punjab...no point going there and sitting in the pind..need western well knowledged gursikhs going over and bringing sikhi to the masses...

there is no high and low caste in the sikh panth..there is only one caste and that is kshatri khalsa...no distinction within the khalsa at all...all are equal...these punjabi pendus are dragging sikhi in the mud

[Singh559]

This is a very serious issue, don't throw it under the rug and hope it will go away.

Everyone needs to read the entire article.

[KhalistaniGunMan]

the caste system is engrained in the indian people and culture to such an extent that its nearly irreversible..even muslims and christians practice caste system in india regardless of what they tell you....the only way this will change is when people accept khalsa as their jaat...caste system itself was not a problem when it was optional and you could move between jaat...but now its become hereditary and a hierarchy was established which has made it opressive and corrupt...the only way to break hereditary allegiance to jaat is by inter-marrying between sikhs

[Singh559]

Caste is a big thing, but a bigger is that our community refuses to allocate the proper money to funnel them into support in pinds.

Everything's a mess. All the money that the SGPC gets goes into their pockets - shareyaam. Avtar Makkari flat out admits it on camera 2 crores kharcha is "just on his fuel cost".

It's sad to say, but Punjab is a horrible place now, everyone is blinded by panj chore.

[RebelSingh]

the caste system is engrained in the indian people and culture to such an extent that its nearly irreversible..even muslims and christians practice caste system in india regardless of what they tell you....the only way this will change is when people accept khalsa as their jaat...caste system itself was not a problem when it was optional and you could move between jaat...but now its become hereditary and a hierarchy was established which has made it opressive and corrupt...the only way to break hereditary allegiance to jaat is by inter-marrying between sikhs

bro u right it bein irreversible, coz pakistanis still belive in it, jus as much as ppl in india n panjab. look @ the sullayy in england, these rajahs/gujjars/jatts/qureshis never inter-marry.

btw mods can u delet my thread on this exact article. even tho i opened it first, before this thread, ppl have commented on this thread more, cheers

[Singh559]

bro u right it bein irreversible, coz pakistanis still belive in it, jus as much as ppl in india n panjab. look @ the sullayy in england, these rajahs/gujjars/jatts/qureshis never inter-marry.

btw mods can u delet my thread on this exact article. even tho i opened it first, before this thread, ppl have commented on this thread more, cheers

Sorry, I did not see your thread.


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[RebelSingh]

Sorry, I did not see your thread.

no problem bro, no need 2 say sorry its kool singh. btw yea ive seen the vid b4, sad, that ppl give up their sardari n even amritdharis give it up for another faith, coz of poverty. How is it that gurdwaras wont let certain types of ppl in? the openess/oneness is wat made sikhi the fastest growin religion in british panjab, with most converts, n now all the hardwork n effort dun by sikh missionaries/parcharaks/sant of the 1900's-1940s is goin down the drain.

this guys grandparents or their grandparents were prolly in the exact same situation as hindus or muslims who were bein bullied by their "own ppl" n barred from mandirs/masjids, n then accepted sikhi 2 improve themselves. n aint it an irony, the so-called same ppl of that all inclusive faith r doin the same thing now as those hindus/muslims, gandh!!

[singher23]

Caste is a big thing, but a bigger is that our community refuses to allocate the proper money to funnel them into support in pinds.

Everything's a mess. All the money that the SGPC gets goes into their pockets - shareyaam. Avtar Makkari flat out admits it on camera 2 crores kharcha is "just on his fuel cost".

It's sad to say, but Punjab is a horrible place now, everyone is blinded by panj chore.

Future of Sikhi is outside of India