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Martyrs

Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:52:55 +0000

Good friend of mine from bombay came up with a really cool movie "Martyrs". Movie is currently in finishing touch mode and hope that it will come out in few weeks/months. Watch the promo... Website is : http://www.thesikhmedia.com

MARTYRS is a film based on sikh history. This is the first time any film on sikh history is made with this technique.This film is directed by Jagmeet Singh Samundri who has won the best direction award at new york international film festival for his documentary RISE OF THE KHALSA. For more info contact : thesikhmedia@yahoo.com www.theisikhmedia.com

Ravidassiya'S Hating On Sikhs

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:34:35 +0000

I'm sure some of you have come across youtube video's where in their feud with jatts have abused Sikhs and Sikhism including Sant Bhindranwale making derogetory videos of him. Some Sikhs mistakenly thought it was hindu's at first but picture has come clear that it was chumaar ravidassiya's. So question is how do you deal with these scummy people, do we stay slient and let them abuse Sikhi and our sants?

Forgotten Heroes Of The Khalsa Panth

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 18:55:23 +0000

Keertan Programme In Remembrance Of Bibi Jasmeet Kaur

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:56:22 +0000

BEFORE THE SUBLIME MYSTERY OF EXISTENCE, SPACE AND TIME, ACCORDING TO THE WILL OF GOD OUR BELOVED JASMEET KAUR AT THE TENDER AGE OF 14 YEARS DEPARTED FROM THIS WORLD. IN THE FINAL HOURS OF HER SHORT LIFE SHE WAS BLESSED WITH AMRIT AND THE WARM EMBRACE OF THE GURU JI. HER SOUL IS NOW FREE AND UNITED WITH WAHEGURU.

A Keertan programme has organised in remembrance of the blessed soul, Jasmeet Kaur.

Keertan will start at 6pm till midnight.

Saturday 11th September 2010

At Guru Nanak Gurdwara 1 Hadley Park Road, Hadley, Telford, Shropshire TF1 6PW

For further information log on to www.akj.org or visit jasmeetkaur.blogspot.com

Please circulate this email to your contacts.

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Waheguru Wahe Jio Simran For Download

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:34:10 +0000

To continue to encourage those who wish to vibe with Gurbani, Waheguru Simran is available freely on Youtube.com/Sikhi for streaming, and on www.Sikhee.com on www.RajKaregaKhalsa.Net for downloading.

It will be available in .wmv for computers, .mp4 for iPods, .3GP for mobiles, etc and any other format sangat wants.

Akaal Chaalanaa Bhai Jagtar Singh Jee

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 10:39:50 +0000

TORONTO, CANADA - Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji of Gurdwara Tapoban Singh, Toronto, passed away on September 7th, 2010 in the highest of spirits and completed his spiritual and physical journey on Earth whilst chanting Gurmat Naam.

Bhai Sahib was a well respected Gursikh who was instrumental in organizing the Institute of Gurmat Studies, Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib, where daily Amritvela, Nitem, Akhand Kirtan, and Gurbani Santhyia, and the traditional Tat-Gurmat lifestyle is promoted across the congregation.

He firmly insisted that Gurmat should never be compromised, and stressed the importance of staying true to one's bachan (word), and keeping steadfast on Panthic principles.

Bhai Sahib believed that modern Sikh leaders, parchariks, and kirtanees themselves do not uphold the ideals of the Khalsa, so how could they influence others to do the same? He believed the Chardi-Kala of the Panth would automatically come through the practice of Tat-Gurmat, and not watered down rehats.

Unlike others, Bhai Sahib did not preach, but practiced and lived the life of a true GurSikh. He took Khanday-ki-Pahul over thirty years ago, in 1976, and until the last breath kept his Khalsa Banna, strict Amritvela, Sarbloh bibek, intact. Such was the iron disciple of this Gurmukh. Bhai Sahib spent a majority of his time engrossed in Naam Abhyaas and Gurbani recitation.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji describes the characteristic of such a Gurmukh in his Bani:
ਪੂਰਨ ਜੋਤ ਜਗੈ ਘਟ ਮੈ ਤਬ ਖਾਲਸ ਤਾਹਿ ਨਖਾਲਸ ਜਾਨੈ ॥ Only in whose heart shines the full Divinely Radiant Light is a true Pure Khalsa.
(Further glimpses about this rare GurSikh's life will be shared in the coming days, along with details of his Antim Sanskaar)

Details on the Antim-Sanskaar (funeral) are as follows:

Today (Sep 7, 2010) - Kirtan from 6:30 to 8:30pm at Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib.

Sep 8, 2010 - Kirtan and Antim Darshan from 10am to 11:30am, at Benisasis Funeral Home (Derry Rd and Goreway, Malton).

Sep 8, 2010 - Saskaar (Funeral) from 1:30pm to 2:30pm at Meadowvale Crematarion (Mavis and Hwy 407).

Questions On God Of Guru Granth N Dasam

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:37:22 +0000

The guy is asking question of guru granth sahib and is inspirid by Anti Dasam way of explaining Dasam Granth.
So why not people sort out confusions in Guru Granth Sahib too. Because if these are pointed then it would be difficult.

NIrakar - Sundar KUndal Mukat Bain (Guru Granth)
Nirankar Aroope Anoope - Chatur bah nijootan sudharan (Dasam Granth)

this show lack of research of anti dasam people and these type of shardhawaan people

what do you think?

Can Any Sikh Help Me In This Matter ?

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:11:44 +0000

I am 20 year old sikh guy .
I am worried about my career since I had made wrong choices and failed miserably .
I did OK performance in my 10th class ( last year of high school ) . But I did just fine in 12th class ( last year junior college ) , though my physics-chem-maths marks were less. Actually I failed in my 12th , but then passed in re-checking.
I then went for B.S in Computer science . I went in this field as I thought this was much better option that other plain sciences.
But , each year I did performance so low and now in final year I failed .
Now , I feel like my choices were wrong . I might have made a nice career stress less by opting for commerce after high school or not opting for computer science . I don't even like this subject .
What should I do ? I am feeling very down because of all this as I feel I have wasted my 5 years and accomplished nothing .
Any advice ?

Self Control

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:06:15 +0000

WJJK WJKF

I need some advice. How does one attain self control. Things like being lazy, not getting up for Amrit Vela, or even when I do im yawning half the time. Or things like eating unnecessarily. Has anyone been through this or overcome it? Im finding it difficult to control myself and keep giving in.

Any advice would be great.

Thanks

Barsi Of Sant Baba Lehna Singh Nihang Singh (Raqba)

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:03:02 +0000

Ik Oankar Prasad!

Sri Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Sri Akaaal Purakh Ji Sahae!

To bring to a close the UK visit of Budha Dal Jathedar Baba Joginder Singh Ji, the barsi of Sant Baba Lehna Singh Ji Nihang Singh has been orgranised in Southall for Saturday the 11^thof September 2010.

Baba Lehna Singh was a great Warrior-Saint who selflessly spent his entire life servingthe Sangat and Guru Sahib. He himself had learnt all of Adi Sri Guru GranthSahib by heart and gave santhiya to many others, including Baba Joginder Singh. A short biography of Baba Lehna Singh can be read here: http://www.nihangsin.../war-lehna.html

Confirmed Attendees:

Singh Sahib Jathedar Baba Joginder Singh Ji (Budha Dal, Raqba)

Sant Bhagwan Singh Ji (Budha Dal)

Sant Giani Gurdev Singh Ji (Damdami Taksal)

Giani Mehtab Singh Ji (Tarna Dal, Baba Bakala)

Theprogram schedule is as follows:

3:00pm Sehaj Path Bhog

3:45pm Aarti Aarta and Ardas

Followed by Keertan, Katha and Dhadhi until 7pm.

Location: Guru Amar Das Gurdwara Sahib, 1A Clifton Road, Southall, UB2 5QP

For more information please contact:

parchar@nihangsingh.org

07756694216

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Jeevan Jaach - Vichaar By Gyani Sant Singh Ji Maskeen

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:16:00 +0000

Jeevan Jaach
Veechar by Gyani Sant Singh Ji Maskeen

The entire universe is under the control of time (kaal) in which everyone is allotted a predetermined time to perform their tasks. All living forms have been given plenty of opportunities to eat, drink, sleep and reproduce, but only human body has been given the ability to merge with the Supreme Being. That is why, Satguru Ji's Bani calls it a wonderful chance to be one with the Creator; one has enjoyed His creations in animal life forms too, but now is the chance to meet the Creator of these creations:

ਭਈ ਪਰਾਪਤਿ ਮਾਨੁਖ ਦੇਹੁਰੀਆ ॥
ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਮਿਲਣ ਕੀ ਇਹ ਤੇਰੀ ਬਰੀਆ ॥
This human body has come to thy hand.
This is thy chance to meet the Lord of the world.

(Sri Ang 378, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)
And:
ਇਹੀ ਤੇਰਾ ਅਉਸਰੁ ਇਹ ਤੇਰੀ ਬਾਰ ॥
ਘਟ ਭੀਤਰਿ ਤੂ ਦੇਖੁ ਬਿਚਾਰਿ ॥
This is thine opportunity and this thy time.
Look thou into thy mind and reflect on this.

(Sri Ang 1159, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

On the ladder of existence, we have crawled and climbed many a rungs in the form of previous lives, and we now stand on the golden rung, this human body, that can lead us straight to Sachkhand. Sadly, man often falters and slips from this rung and loses his balance:

ਇਸੁ ਪਉੜੀ ਤੇ ਜੋ ਨਰੁ ਚੂਕੈ ਸੋ ਆਇ ਜਾਇ ਦੁਖੁ ਪਾਇਦਾ ॥੨॥
The man who misses this opportunity, He suffers sorrow of coming and going.

(Sri Ang 1074, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

Life is a path, and human body is the traveller; Childhood, Adolescence, and Old age are its three stages. Each stage is crowded with materials, friends and relatives. Seeing the hustle and bustle of these stages, one's consciousness wavers and derails from the true path. There are dark clouds of five vices along the way too, but Guru's word and guidance prevents them from flooding the path. In the end, only a few fortunate souls are able to cross the meandering valleys and reach the final destination.

ਕਬੀਰ ਜਿਹ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪੰਡਿਤ ਗਏ ਪਾਛੈ ਪਰੀ ਬਹੀਰ ॥
ਇਕ ਅਵਘਟ ਘਾਟੀ ਰਾਮ ਕੀ ਤਿਹ ਚੜਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਕਬੀਰ ॥੧੬੫॥
Kabir, crowds follow the path, the Pandits have traversed.
There is an arduous cliff on the way to the Lord, Kabir is scaling that cliff.

(Sri Ang 1373, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

The pleasures enjoyed by humans are absorbed via senses from external sources. However, the real happiness within cannot be savoured with any sense of sight, touch or smell. Enjoying the smaller, insignificant worldly pleasures, one remains deprived of the incomparable, eternal blissful state:

ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤੁ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ॥
ਦੇਹੀ ਮਹਿ ਇਸ ਕਾ ਬਿਸ੍ਰਾਮੁ ॥
The nine treasures and the Nectar are Lord's Name.
Within the Human body itself is its seat.

(Sri Ang 293, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

These nine treasures of His Name are beautifully laid on the platter of life, but on their death, careless human beings end up mixing them in dirt:

ਜਨਮੁ ਪਦਾਰਥੁ ਖੋਇ ਗਵਾਰਾ ॥
The ignorant man loses the invaluable commodity of human life.

(Sri Ang 676, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

Life is like a dream; it lasts for a very short time and has no element of reality in it. And anything that is not real is merely a play; some are made kings in this play while others play the part of beggars; some are sad and some are happy. Those who understand the rules of this show will set off on a journey to find the Truth, the Absolute Truth.

ਜਗਿ ਜੀਵਨੁ ਐਸਾ ਸੁਪਨੇ ਜੈਸਾ ਜੀਵਨੁ ਸੁਪਨ ਸਮਾਨੰ ॥
The worldly life is such that it is like a dream. The life is equal to a dream.

(Sri Ang 482, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

And:

ਜਿਉ ਸੁਪਨਾ ਅਰੁ ਪੇਖਨਾ ਐਸੇ ਜਗ ਕਉ ਜਾਨਿ ॥
ਇਨ ਮੈ ਕਛੁ ਸਾਚੋ ਨਹੀ ਨਾਨਕ ਬਿਨੁ ਭਗਵਾਨ ॥੨੩॥
As is a dream and a show, so know thou this world to be.
Nanak, without the Lord, nothing is true in these.

(Sri Ang 1427, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

Life is like a stringed instrument, the breath and senses being its strings. However, not everyone knows the art for creating beautiful music with this instrument. It is easy to break its strings, but incredibly difficult to produce divine sounds out of it. Broken breaths and displaced senses are witness to the fact that we have ended up breaking the string instrument of life; that is why there is no music in our bland lives.

ਕਬੀਰ ਜੋ ਹਮ ਜੰਤੁ ਬਜਾਵਤੇ ਟੂਟਿ ਗਈਂ ਸਭ ਤਾਰ ॥
ਜੰਤੁ ਬਿਚਾਰਾ ਕਿਆ ਕਰੈ ਚਲੇ ਬਜਾਵਨਹਾਰ ॥੧੦੩॥
Kabir, all the strings of the instrument, which I played upon, are broken.
What can the poor instrument do, when the player has departed?

(Sri Ang 1427, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj)

A musician is one who can tune his instrument and produce wonderful music; and a Gursikh is one whose every action is in tune with Waheguru Ji's own voice.

Guru Roop Sangat Jeo, lets all pray in the lotus feet of Sri Guruji Maharaj that He blesses us with the consciousness and wisdom with which we can concentrate our senses on the One so that we can also produce and listen to this divine music in this lifetime.

Gurfateh!

Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji Of Tapoban Sahib Leaves For Heavenly Abode

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:27:21 +0000

BHAI JAGTAR SINGH JI OF TAPOBAN SAHIB LEAVES FOR HEAVENLY ABODE
(EDITORIAL) PANTHIC.ORG

TORONTO, CANADA - Bhai Jagtar Singh Ji of Gurdwara Tapoban Singh, Toronto, passed away on September 7th, 2010 in the highest of spirits and completed his spiritual and physical journey on Earth.

Bhai Sahib was a well respected Gursikh who was instrumental in organizing the Institute of Gurmat Studies, Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib, where daily Amritvela, Nitem, Akhand Kirtan, and Gurbani Santhyia, and the traditional Tat-Gurmat lifestyle is promoted across the congregation.

He firmly insisted that Gurmat should never be compromised, and stressed the importance of staying true to one's bachan (word), and keeping steadfast on Panthic principles.

Bhai Sahib believed that modern Sikh leaders, parchariks, and kirtanees themselves do not uphold the ideals of the Khalsa, so how could they influence others to do the same? He believed the Chardi-Kala of the Panth would automatically come through the practice of Tat-Gurmat, and not watered down rehats.

Unlike others, Bhai Sahib did not preach, but practiced and lived the life of a true GurSikh. He took Khanday-ki-Pahul over thirty years ago, in 1976, and until the last breath kept his Khalsa Banna, strict Amritvela, Sarbloh bibek, intact. Such was the iron disciple of this Gurmukh. Bhai Sahib spent a majority of his time engrossed in Naam Abhyaas and Gurbani recitation.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji describes the characteristic of such a Gurmukh in his Bani:

ਪੂਰਨ ਜੋਤ ਜਗੈ ਘਟ ਮੈ ਤਬ ਖਾਲਸ ਤਾਹਿ ਨਖਾਲਸ ਜਾਨੈ ॥
Only in whose heart shines the full Divinely Radiant Light is a true Pure Khalsa.

(Further glimpses about this rare GurSikh's life will be shared in the coming days, along with details of his Antim Sanskaar)

Punjabi Vs. Sikh

Wed, 08 Sep 2010 02:05:47 +0000

Punjabi Vs. Sikh

Picking Sides

Sikhism is one religion where you can't have both culture and religion; to maintain either you have to take one out of the equation. Punjabi culture is all about drinking, dancing, and sex discrimination. Sikhi is abstaining from all negative stuff that harms our body (like drinking); exercising instead of dancing and against all forms of discrimination. That is why Gurudwara Sahibs most refrain from promoting Punjabi Culture events, encouraging the caste system and allowing discrimination.

Majority of Sikhs are Punjabis but majority of Punjabis are not Sikhs, yet Gurudwara Sahibs still promote Punjabi culture events aimed at non-Sikhs. Sikh is one that follows the teachings of Sikh Gurus and is amritdhari or working towards taking amrit. A Sikh does not drink alcohol, wear flashy clothes, eat meat or partake in non-gurmat events. Majority of culture events that take place and are promoted by Gurudwara Sahibs allow drinking, encourage flashy clothes, eating meat and forgetting Waheguru. Events are typically held outside of the Gurudwara Premises or without the presence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji because these events are anti-gurmat and not related to Sikhi. We forget that removing Guru JI from the room or going to separate venue does not hide our deeds from Guru Ji. Waheguru Ji is present everywhere and watching over us at all times. So next time we use the Gurudwara banner to promote Teeyan, Rakhsa Bandan, Karva Chutha, Diwali and etc. for political and financial reasons or even to get more people to enter the Gurudwara Sahib, let's take a moment to think if the event can be held in Guru Ji's presence. Respect all religions and cultures but not at the price of Sikhi.

Sikhi promotes respecting all regardless of caste, yet we announce castes as if they are badge of honor. Many members of the Sikh community still use the caste system when picking life partners and judging others but Gurudwara Sahibs should not encourage it. Gurudwara Sahibs must keep caste out of any matrimonial services offered and refuse to acknowledge or announce any last names other than Singh, Kaur or Khalsa (with expectation of other religion visitors). Every time during ardass or announcements we mention last names, the elder members of the community immediately figure out the person's caste. There might be an excuse to using different last name outside of the Gurudwara Sahib but under no circumstances should it be allowed inside. Please ask everyone to check there are caste/last names at the door, when enter the Gurudwara Sahib. We are all equal in the eyes of Waheguru Ji and that is what the Gurudwara Sahib should promote.

For true equality we must not only get rid of the caste system but also get rid of gender discrimination. Punjabis and Indian in general are well-known for their preference of males over females. There is a high rate of Female abortion in Punjab and we should work in keeping that problem out of our communities in the west. The west has always set an example for doing bad stuff for the people back home, let us set a better example for them this time. Gurudwara Sahibs must encourage more women to learn kirtan do it for sangat to inspire more. We must not hire Granthies whose wives/daughters do not live a Gursikh life style. The people that couldn't teach their own families, what will they teach our children? Being a Granthi is not a job but a tool to inspire more Gursikhs (men and women). We have to encourage more females to get involved in Seva in all of the Gurudwara Sahib, not just the langar hall. They should be encouraged to seva where other females can see them and get inspired. Gurudwara Sahib must promote equality of the genders and help preserve Sikhi for the next generation.

Gurudwara Sahibs are the keepers of Sikhi, the home of Guru Ji, and they must not sell out and become the keepers of Punjabi culture. Sikhs must protect Sikhi and keep Punjabi culture out of Gurudwara Sahibs. And Punjabis must respect Sikhi and check Punjabi culture at the door. Gurudwara Sahib have to pick Sikhi today or tomorrow there won't be a Sikhi left to pick in most Gurudwara Sahibs.

Authors Note: The intention was not to hurt feelings, just telling the truth as I see it. Any questions or comments or advice please email at fromthese5tothose5@hotmail.com

Gurbilas Patshai 6

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:50:13 +0000

Is this viewable on the net or can it be purchased

Kirtan Is So Moving

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 22:29:44 +0000

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Please someone tell me what the kirtani is singing. The start kills it, its so moving. �http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IPZxmdg9t8

Bebe Nanaki Gurdwara

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:53:58 +0000

VJKK VJKF

*** YOUTUBE CHANNEL UPDATE ***

Video's of the Keertan Darbaar which happened on 29/08/2010 at Bebe Nanaki Gurdwara, Handsworth, Birmingham, UK...

- Bhai Inderjit Singh Darbaar Saahib Hazoori Raagi,
- Bhai Nirmal Singh Khalsa,
- Bhai Jasbir Singh Khalsa and son Bhai Karanjit Singh Khalsa

Chek them out here...

http://www.youtube.com/user/Hukam1#p/u

VJKK VJKF

Singh & Mp3?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 21:51:20 +0000

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa
Wahegur ji ki Fateh

Is it appropriate for a Singh/Kaur to be listening to their headphones while walking, on train, in laundermat, etc., instead of looking out for those possibly in need of help and repeating God's name? Frankly, it doesn't look good, but sometimes the urge for that dhol beat is irresistible. Are there any regulations I should be following?

Thank you very much for your thoughtful advice.

Khalsa Camp Kirtan?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 18:42:14 +0000

VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh!

Just wondering apart from the vids on youtube which are great were any mp3 recordings of this years camp made? Especially of the kirtan darbar, and if so where will these be uploaded??

Thanks.

American Man Playing Tabla

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:42:19 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjtX6zeDwIU&feature=related

I Got Bored!

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 17:06:48 +0000

As amny of you knwo i currently have a blog translating sikhscriptures ( http://www.sikhscriptures2english.blogspot.com/ ) which i have started to pick up the seva again of but also i have a massive collection of books and magazines. i am photographing all of them and making them PDF files on scribes. i will daily put up one or two items for people to read if they wish. They incluse a large number of Teekas, Ajuni magazines, Atam Rang, and Sewapanthi magazines. Altogether i should if i phot everything have around 2000 files plus i have started to digitise the gurdwaras library wich has around 10,000 - 20,000 books also. So watch this space if you are interested

http://sikhibooks.blogspot.com/

Cutting Hair - Dilemma

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 16:19:59 +0000

Vaheguru,

I have been faced with a dilemma for the past two weeks that I simply cannot get my head around, literally!

I was trimming the overgrown hedge in my front garden and cutting the grass when it hit me. The fact that I am trying to be a true Gursikh and have stopped trimming my beard or cutting my hair. So much so that I feel to conquer the five vices, I have to go as far as not tying/styling my beard and avoid using a mirror/pins etc... to style my turban, which are all forms of showing off my appearance to others.

If I feel so strongly about not cutting my hair then why is it ok to trim the garden hedge and cut the grass? Should we not just let it grow wild and live life in a jungle?

I understand the concept of cutting fruit/vegetables when they have reached a ripened state and will fall off the tree/plant and die anyway.

But my garden hedge is evergreen and will carry on growing no matter what, just like my hair!

Thinking about this is doing my head in now and I can't find a good explanation.

A big thank you, in advance, to anyone who can solve this dilemma for me.

Rabb Raakha
Harman Singh

Vairag Shatak Pt 6 , 7 , & 8.

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:58:44 +0000

Shiv Upma-Totakh Shand

�Har Gyan Pradeep Sadha Lashkey.

Mann Mandir Yogan Ke Basske.

Bahau Moh Udhay Joh Ridha Tin Ke.

Tamm Punj Wahi Tin Ko Hann Ke.� {5}

Har = Shiv Ji {Waheguru in the form of Shiv Ji}. Pradeep = illuminating diva = candle like device. Lashkay =is illuminating/burning. Yogan =Jogi�s. Tamm = Hanerah = darkness. Hann ke = naas kar ke = destroys/destruction.

Shiv Ji {Waheguru in the form of} is akin to the burning diva {candle like device} with the glow of Gyan {knowledge} which illuminates. It illuminates the Mann Mandir {metaphorical mind temple} of the Jogi Jan {spiritual people}. The heart�s of the Jogi Jan {spiritual people} before �Yogavastha� {meditation} were engrossed in moh {maya attachment}. That is the Tamm Punj = Maha Andhkar {horrendous darkness} , which becomes illuminated with this �Gyan Roop Diva� {candle of knowledge}.

Khulasa {further explanation}:- Here Shiv Ji has been associated with �prakash roop diva� {illuminating candle}, just as a diva {candle} burns in a mandir {temple/building} in the same way Shiv Ji {Waheguru in the form of} sobah sanyukt biraj {resides beautifully} in the hirdey {hearts} of the yogi-jan {spiritual people}. Just as before the illumination of the diva {candle}, the house is in a state of immense darkness which disappears {nasht-brasht} with the prakash {light}. In the same way before Gyan prapti {acquisition of knowledge} in the hirdey {heart�s} of the Yogi-jan {spiritual people}, they were full of moh {attachment} for istri {female}, puttar {offspring}, dhann {wealth}, daulat {materialism etc.}, that was the bhayanak hanera {terrifying darkness} the likes of which were nasht {eradicated} with the chanan {illumination} of Gyan {knowledge}. {5}

Prashan {question} :- The patanga {moth} burns itself on the diva {candle}, the diva {candle} has tel {oil} and batti {wick} by which means it burns. If Shiv Ji is the �Gyan pradeep� {light} then what is the tel {oil}? And the batti {wick}? And who is the patanga {moth}?

The answer is:-

�Pun Lol Anang Patang Maha.

Khin Mahay Subhavik Tahey Kaha.

Nihkam Samooh Gunagar Dippeh.

So Saneh Saneh Vahi Arpay.�

Lol = chanchal = cunning. Anang = without body = kamdev =lust {intangible}. Patang = moth that cannot resist the flame of fire and thus burns to death. Daha = burn it. Nihkam = without kamna = without desires. Gunagar = batti = wick. Dippeh = illuminating whilst burning. Saneh = prem = tel = oil.

The maha chanchal {extremely cunning} kamdev {lust} is the patanga {moth}. It is burnt to a cinder within a shinn {nano-second} by the diva {candle} of shiv Ji {waheguru in the form}. The chundh {wick} of nishkam {desireless} gunn {attributes} burns and gives light in the diva {candle}. The puran {full} prem {love} in the hirdey {hearts} of Jogi-jan {spiritual people} is the tel {oil} in this �Gyan pradeep� {candle of knowledge/wisdom}. {6}

�Jinn Ke Ati Bhal Ko Bhal Bhaleh.

Asss Deepak Ta Mann Dham Jaleh.

Jinn Bhukkan Maal Mayank Sahey.

Kall Ka Kall Doorh Kalank Nahey.� {7}

Bhaal = matha = forehead. Bhaag = Lekh = kismet =fortune. Asss = Ajaha = like this. Dham = mandir = house/building etc. Bhukan = gehna = item of jewellery. Mayank = chandrma = moon. Kal = kalyug = this era and {2} kalpana = agitated.

Those pursh {people} whose bhaag {fortune} on the mathay {forehead} are very good, they alone have this diva {candle} burning in their mandir {temple} of mann {mind}.

Prashan {question}:- what is �Gyan pradeep� shiv Ji like?

Uttar {answer}:- Those whose matha {forehead} is adorned with the gehna {jewel} of the metaphorical chandrma {moon}, those whose metaphorical chandrma roop matha {fortune on forehead} is without the kalank {disgrace} of kalyug kalpana {the agitations of kalyug i.e. lust}. {7}

Kurta Pajama/Bana To Uni?

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:42:37 +0000

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Just wondering if there is anyone who wears bana or kurta paja to uni, work,etc.? I'm going to be starting my second year of uni in a few weeks and was thinking about switching to kurta pajama full time for a few reasons. If anyone does this could you please share what effect you think this has had, positive or negative? Any reasons I shouldn't?

thanks

Asht Events This Week

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 12:37:42 +0000

Heritage Shared 2010

Coming up this week...

Tuesday 7th September 7pm�8.30pm (FREE book at events@asht.info) Book Launch ~ The Royal Geographical Society, London

This opening event of Heritage Shared month sees military historian & author Amarpal Singh Sidhu in conversation about his groundbreaking new book 'The First Anglo Sikh War'.

Followed by book signing.

Saturday 11th September 1pm & 3pm (FREE)

'Lions Tales' ~ Museum of the Jewellery Quarter, Birmingham

Join storyteller Seema Anand for this children's session which captures the fascinating journey of Maharajah Ranjit Singh known as the 'Lion of Punjab'. Listen to wonderful tales about this legendary Indian ruler who was a ferocious warrior and a just king. Supported by English Heritage

Saturday 11th�Sunday 26th September (FREE book at events@asht.info)

Frames of Bravery' ~ Gurdwara Sahib Warwick & Leamington

Launched in Malaysia in 2007 this photographic exhibition offers a rare glimpse into Sikh military contributions all over the world from the late 18th century onwards. It includes many previously unseen black and white photographs of Sikh Soldiers who served in Malaya, Singapore, Burma (Myanmar), Indonesia, China, Hong Kong, Korea, the Middle East, Africa and Europe. Meet the creator of the exhibition Malaysian Sikh, Harchand Singh Bedi.

The Exhibition launches with a screening of 'Flying Sikhs - A History of Sikh Fighter Pilots' by Navdeep Kandola, on Saturday 11th at 5pm.

Bhai Pinderpal Singh Jee'S Katha On Sant Baba Jarnail Singh Jee Khalsa Bhindranwale And Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Jee

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 04:34:25 +0000

part 1: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

part 2: http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

Goons Of Sarna Attack Singhs

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 03:57:44 +0000

pasted from http://www.facebook....58679996?v=wall

CLASH AT GURU DWARA Moti Bagh, with Sarna at Delhi.

Today I, along with some Sikh friends went to Gurudwara Moti Bagh, Delhi to celebrate Gurupurab. I had some pumphlets with me to distribute in congregation there. I just wanted to aware the sangat that Sarna himself is involved with Laxman Chelaram. I had the proves. Some Sikh youths came to help me and started distributing. Within no time goons of Sarna came and asked who was disributiung, Sikh youths signalled towards me. Those goons hold me from my arms and thrashed to the office of chairman. When I reached at his office, they pushed me inside. I found 3 more Sikhs were held illegally and were hold by goons of Sarna. Just by the time I was pushed in, Sarna too entered in the room and signaled his goons and said 'MAARO' I protested to it and said tell me the reason. He shouted and asked me the reason to distribute pamphelets. I replied to aware the sangat of your involvement with Chelaram.
At this he got irritated and he talked something to his goon. At once I was pushed and abused than dragged to his table, someone punched me thrice at my back. Sarna spoke to me to be careful in future or that I'll be taught a lesson.
When I got straitened, I was amused to see that a goon of him attacked on the head of the Sikh with his sword, who was pushed towards wall. He just turned downwards and saved himself. The picture of Guru Gobind Singh ji was hit and fell though was not allowed to fall on ground by someone present there. I could not see his face. I was already in pain but regained my half consiousness and saw the other Sikh who was caught hold by three goons of Sarna was Kaptaan Singh. He is tough guy but at that time, he was overpowered by goons.
When he saw the attempt on his life, he resisted and released himself from the grip of those goons. Now these goons and Sarna himself clashed with a young boy(Name not known) but Sarna was abusing that youth. That youth too responded him in same manner. He was so annoyed that he would have hit Sarna as he was abused as mother-f*****. He was immediately overpowered by his goons. He was caught hold badly. A sikh ahd taken him in his grip from behind and others had hold him from his arms so he could not hit. Had he been released, Sarna would have seen the darkest day of his life.
When all this scuffle was going on inside his office, Sangat started gathering outside and started to protest against Sarna. At this Sarna got nervous, he signaled his goons to free us and so we were released. When we came out of his office, another goon tried to hit a chair on Kaptaan Singh but a youth from sangat pushed that attacker, he lost his balance and fell down so Kaptaan singh was again saved by Guru ji himself.
Then ladies present there got furious, they pushed open the door of office and cursed Sarna as BETTER YOU DIE EARLY. YOU HIT THE SANGAT.
Someone had given a call to police, Police was already deployed outside Gurudwara which entered inside the premises, controlled the public by there appearance. Some Sikhs were whisked away but on protest of Sangat, they were released. I called the Lieutinent-Governor of Delhi to seek his help and his intervention but I was told that he was not in Delhi. Then through some top source, I was connected to the DCP of Delhi, who assured me full help. I was given assurance and that an ACP of police shall visit me. Though they arrived late as they were busy somewhere but I had a long discussion with him and another Inspector of Delhi Police. Now we were taken to same office where we were dragged early and provided seats to handle the issue. I narrated the mishappening with me, the threat to me by Sarna as to face dire consequences and that it could be repeated in future and we may not be labeled as hooligans whereas we are attacked and forced to complain you.
On his direction, I went to the nearest Police station at Dhaula kuan and lodged the first information reportr. Whether any action is taken against Sarna and his goons or Delhi Police show it's partiality with Sarna, that only time will tell.
We Sikhs have become helpless in Delhi. He is misusing the money of Gurudwara by keeping the goons like Jagirdar at the expenses of Sikh sangat and threatens, thrashes and humiliates the GurSikhs who ask any question from him about his mal-administration and misusing of Gurudwara funds or his involvement in anti Sikh activities.
I appeal to all Sikhs of the world to stand beside me and give me their support so that he may be forced to behave properly and answerable to Sikh sangat. He should terminate the services of his goons and should answer the question raised in Sangat, not in his office.
Please stop funding DSGMC and never allow him to speak in any congregation until he does not reply the allegations.
The allegations are;

� What action taken against the editor of Aastha magazine which published derogatory remarks against Guru Gobind Singh ji?
� What action was taken on recovery of sarups of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji from Nij Thaon mandir of Laxman Chelaram in March 2010? Why did you return the sarups to temple again? Are you not aware of Sikh code of conduct that no Parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib can be done where the idols are worshipped and other anti-Sikh activities or festivals are held?
� On 11th August 10, the sarups of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji were recovered from the basement of Laxman Chelaram, floating in muddy-sewerage water. Neither you visited nor you sent any of your authorized person to survey the damage or to supervise the task being done by Sikhs from all part of Delhi despite heavy rains?
Read full story at http://www.proudkhal...h-sahib-saroop/
� You replied that you were away but why did you not send any of senior member of DSGMC? Was it not your responsibility? What for you are the head of DSGMC and represent Sikhs of Delhi?
� Next day, when you visited the Dera Baba Karam Singh ji, you surveyed the damage and visited each and every room where the saups were placed. While addressing the sangat you said," That you assured of a stern action against Chelaram or those responsible for this dis-respect" At this I intervened and asked you if you are giving assurance truthfully? You replied"Yes".
At this I interrupted and addressed the sangat without loudspeaker that "Sarna ji, when sarups of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji were recovered from Sindhi temple of Laxman Chelaram, had you taken any action that day, we Sikhs would have not seen this day in disgust and sorrow."
By hearing my these words you left the stage and walked out of Gurudwara. You were tried to stop by Sikh sangat but no, you did not stop. Then sangat got irritated and tried to pull you out of your car but your driver was smart, he took you away but Sikhs (in their frustration) attacked on your car and kicked.
You have a hair of pig in your eye so you did not stop and ran away like cowards.
Please read full story at http://traitoroussikh.blogspot.com/
� The same questions were asked by a Sikh Jasbir Singh at Shalimar Bagh Gurudwara from you on 22nd August but your goons stopped him. At this he published 10,000 posters of full incident and distributed. Are you not ashamed of you?
� You have converted the newly built rooms into a Hotel which were constructed by the Sikh sangat at their cost and land of Gurudwara, for the stay of Sikh sangat visiting from all parts of world. How dare you to charge Rs. 750/- per night from the Sikh visitors? Is it a luxurious hotel or a place for the comfort of Sikh pilgrims? Have you ever noticed the charges at Mata Kaulan niwas and other places at Darbar Sahib, Amritsar?
� You did not allow the Akhand path in the sweet memory of the Sikhs martyred in 1984 aftermath of assassination of Indira Gandhi at Gurudwara Bala Sahib in November 2009. Why? Kuldeep Singh Bhogal lodged a complaint at Akal Takhat in this regard.
� You have sold the parking built by kar sewa at Gurudwra Bangla sahib in 2005 to NDMC. The Sikh pilgrims are liable to enjoy this free car pareking uptil 2030 only. Afterwards the NDMC shall charge parking fee from the visitors to Gurudwara and the parking shall be taken under control of NDMC/Delhi givt.
Thus you have sold this parking and have made an agreement to handover it in 2030 to Delhi govt, means the Delhi govt shall make its entry in Gurudwara premises and the day is not far when they will intervene in other religious matters too.
Why did you did it and sold this parking? You are not going to suffer but our next generation shall pay for your historical mistake. You have plyed a role of JaiChand in Sikh history by giving entrance to Delhi govt in Sikh matters. Shame on you.
� Now you are going to build another parking at Gurudwara Rakabganj, Space is less and story is longer so please read at http://groups.google...wara-Rakabganj.
� How do you charge for the marriage of a girl in the Gurudwara whereas you are supposed to give some gift to the bride and groom, to promote Sikhi? The money offered by the gathering of both side could be more than that you demand or expect.
It must be free of cost.
� The recent controversy of Phoolka ji is fresh in the minds of Sikh sangat. You were defamed throughout the world but you never come forward to help the victims of 1984. You have oimposed a ban on all preachers at gurudwara Bangla sahib (Due to direct telecast) to not to refer 1984. No preacher ever talks of 1984 or about the role of Congress govt, or the preptrators of Sikh genocide. Why? Are you afraid of your bosses in north block?
� You announced gold plating inside Gurudwara Bangla Sahib without bothering the views of Sikh scholars, learned persons and other religious persons. Please read full report at http://groups.google...-dividing-sikhs

There are many more complaints the Sikhs of Delhi would be having with you but they are feared as you have a force of goons. They attack on every that person who dares to ask you any question in relation to any of your foul play.
Sarna ji, you shall have to answer these questions. Don't think that you will be escaped so easily, even if you shall not be the president, sangat has a right to ask you the answers to these questions.
Now it is up to you whether you like to answer or not.

Ajmer Singh Randhawa.
0091-9811857449.
http://traitoroussikh.blogspot.com

Sikh Organizations Question Wisdom Of Iqbal Singh'S Decree, Appeal For Unity, Responsibility

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:54:11 +0000

SIKH ORGANIZATIONS QUESTION WISDOM OF IQBAL SINGH'S DECREE,
APPEAL FOR UNITY, RESPONSIBILITY
PANTHIC.ORG | Published on September 6, 2010

TORONTO, CANADA (KP) - Panthic organizations and Gurdwara Sahibs across North America sharply condemned the August 19th, 2010 divisive decree related to Ragmala by Jathedar Iqbal Singh of Takht Sri Panta Sahib, stating its intent was not in the spirit of Panthic unity.

The joint appeal representing the concerns of a coalition of thirty (30) plus Gurdwara Sahibs and Sikh organizations requested the current Sikh leaders to refrain from issuing any reckless media statements that would create further divisions in the Sikh Panth.

Instead, the Sikh organizations appealed, the Sikh nation should unify efforts to achieve the Sikh Nation's common goal ordained in the proclamation "Raj Karega Khalsa", and also stay vigilant to foil the nefarious designs of the Sikh Panth's enemies.

The statement further requested that at this critical time, instead of creating divisions, Panthic organizations should take lead responsibility to counter the onslaught of drugs and heresy that is spreading at an epidemic level in our next generation.

The Sikh organizations named in the press statement included: Ontario Gurdwaras Committee (a group of 16 Gurdwaras located across Ontario) Canada, Akhand Kirtani Jatha Toronto (Tapoban), Damdami Taksal Toronto (Canada), Damdami Taksal Edmonton (Canada), Akhand Kirtani Jatha Edmonton (Canada) , Akhand Kirtani Jatha California (USA), Sri Guru Singh Sabha Malton (Canada), Sri Guru Nanak Sikh Center Reagan Road (Canada), Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara Surrey-Delta (Canada), Khalsa Alliance (USA), Canadian Association of Sikh Students, Panthic Network (USA), Mata Bhag Kaur Dal Toronto (Canada), Institute of Gurmat Studies (Canada), Kaur United (Canada), Baba Deep Singh Gatka Akharra (Canada), Gurdwara Sikh Sangat Brampton (Canada), Gurdwara Tapoban Sahib (Canada), Gurdwara Jot Parkash Sahib (Canada), Sikh Spiritual Center Toronto (Canada), Sewa Charitable Missionary Society (Canada), Sri Guru Nanak Sikh Center (Canada), Sri Hargobind Sahib Gatka Akharra Toronto (Canada), Shaheed Bhai Taru Singh Sewa Society Alberta (Canada), Shaheed Bhai Fauja Singh Gatka Akharra Edmonton (Canada), Shiromani Akali Dal Amritsar (Canada), Gurdwara Guru Nanak Darbar La Salle Montreal (Canada), Shahbaaz Khalsa (Canada) and GURSIKH Organization (Canada).

Earlier Condemnation by S. Simranjit Singh Mann, and Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu, and others

Previously, S. Simranjit Singh Mann, of Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar) , Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu of Shiromani Akali Dal (Panch Pardhani), and various units of Akhand Kirtani Jatha across India, and Europe had also condemned Iqbal Singh's remarks on Ragmala, cautioning that this was not the proper time to debate such divisive issues, nor does any individual entity or organization have the authority to challenge or tamper with the Sikh Rehat Maryada that was ratified in 1936 and 1945 through Panthic concensus.

See related article: Akal Takht Jathedar Rejects Iqbal Singh's Ragmala 'Edict'

Original copy of press statement as issued by Panthic organizations:

15Th Death Anniversary Of Shaheed Bhai Jaswant Singh Khalra Celebrated At Sri Akal Takht Sahib

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:39:21 +0000

Translation:

15th Death Anniversary of Shaheed Bhai Jaswant Singh Khalra celebrated at Sri Akal Takht Sahib

Amritsar, 6 September (Sukhwinderjit Singh Bohru): The 15th death anniversary of Bhai Jaswant Singh Khalra was celebrated at Sri Akal Takht Sahib by Khalra Mission Organisation today and various resolutions passed. Speaking on the occassion, Harmandip Singh Sarhali, leader Khalra Mission Organisation, Virsa Singh Behla,

General Secetary and others said todays programme pays homage to Bhai Jaswant Singh Khalra, who raised strong voice against tyrants and created awareness amongst masses about 25 thousand unidentified bodies of Sikh youths.

In the gathering, demand to take action against police officers responsible for executing fake police encounters was put forward. They said the ruling factions are playing the roles of property dealers in the state. 70% of the population is forced to live under 20 rupees a day while 77 Lakh crores rupees of black money lying in Swiss bank accounts shows money has been amassed by the ruling class instead of spending it on welfare of the poor and the needy.

Alongwith paying their respects to Bhai Jaswant Singh Khalra, speakers also demanded the leaders of Farmer's union be dismissed and the whole business be handed over to co-operative societies.

Deputy Chairman of Human Rights Organisation Kirpal Singh 'Randhawa', Satwinder Singh Palasaur, Major Singh Khalra, Gurmeet Singh Balpuria, Jathedar Baldev Singh, Jatherdar Gurmej Singh, Chaman Lal, Kabal Singh Jodhpur, Baldev Singh Saanghna, Harmeet Singh Kaurwaal, Tarsem Singh Taharpura, Janmeet Singh Khalra, Chainchal Singh Khidowali, Balkar Singh Chola Sahib, Manjit Singh Naushera Pannua, Lakhwinder Singh Mannawala, Sukhwinder Singh Tarantaran etc. were present at this meeting.

New Youtube Video - Guru Maharaj'S Beadbi By Chella Ram Trust

Tue, 07 Sep 2010 02:39:14 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJAaC84R7z0

Children Of Faith

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:41:24 +0000

Children of Faith

Submission

Not having children can make any parent question Waheguru Ji and beg Him for children. We beg, we plead, we threaten to stop believing, we question but how often do we submit to His will. Submission is when you can go up Waheguru Ji and say that you are happy to live in His will and really mean it. Not just say it but don't really believe it inside. Today I want to look at four ladies; one who submitted to Waheguru Ji, two whom handed themselves over to Waheguru Ji and one who just refused to have full faith.

There was once a lady who had 5 daughters and was constantly taunted by the people around her for it. Since her first pregnancy she would pray to Waheguru Ji to bless her with a son. Each time she would have a daughter and the worldly people would taunt her and make her upset. After having her five daughters it donned on her that doing ardass for a son is not going to give her a son and she should learn to be happy with what Waheguru Ji blessed her with. She went to the Gurudwara Sahib to do ardass to Waheguru Ji one more time. This time she didn't ask for a son, she thanked Waheguru Ji for her daughters and asked Him to take care of her daughters and give them all the happiness in the world. That day when she finally submitted to Waheguru Ji she was visited by Guru Ji who told her to buy a coconut and drink the water inside it and do path, the next child born will be a son. She did as she was told and she was blessed with a son for submitting to Waheguru Ji's will.

The next two women were sister-in-laws who had been married for years but even after medical help were unable to conceive. One day they were told to get parsad of missi roti and onion from Gurdwara Beed Baba Budda Sahib and they would be blessed by Baba Budda Ji with a son. First the eldest requested her brother-in-law to bring her back parsad. She accepted the parsad with full faith that Waheguru Ji would bless her. She ate the parsad and would daily to path for Waheguru Ji to bless her and then for Him to protect her child. A year later she had her child without any medical assistance. Years later after she had could not have child, the other sister-in-law also requested for the brother-in-law to bring parsad for her also. But when the parsad reached back to the states it had begun to mold. She decided to have faith in Waheguru Ji and cleaned off the mold and ate the parsad. She too did path for a whole year and had a beautiful baby boy. They put all their faith on Waheguru Ji and He blessed them.

These ladies had full faith on Waheguru Ji and submitted to His will and were blessed but not all can submit. There is one such lady whom I have met that runs to anywhere that offers her even the slightest to having a child. She goes to any doctor, any place of worship, just about anywhere were she has heard of someone being blessed. She heard of prasad from Gurdwara Beed Baba Budda Sahib and requested for it to be brought for her also. Prasad is for everyone, so it was brought for her also but when it reached the American airport the onions were not allowed past security, which was something that hadn't happened to the earlier ladies. She ate the missi roti with doubt and did path half-heartedly, thinking of the onion that didn't make it. Just like everything else she had tried to have a baby she didn't do it with full faith and follow through, this was done half-heartedly also. Till this day she is running after a child and because she won't submit to Waheguru Ji, she is facing disappointment after disappointment.

Submission to Waheguru Ji is an important part to being blessed. Blessing does not always mean you will receive a child or whatever you wished for from Waheguru Ji or have to wander dejectedly. Blessing is when you are able to find happiness in whatever His will is and not question it. Blessing is a peace of mind which can only come from submission. And submission comes from admitting we are nothing and Waheguru Ji is the creater and the doer. So be humble, submit and let Waheguru Ji bless you.

Authors Note: These stories were taken either from first hand experience or from a life of a close friend. Please forgive me for any mistakes. You can contact me at fromthese5tothose5@hotmail.com

Larivaar Santhiya

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 22:14:25 +0000

VaheguruJeeKaaKhalsaVaheguruJeeKeeFateh,

Puratan Gursikhs were known for their coherent readings of Sri Guru Granth Sahib, NikhusRePankeeSimarHarPankh||
It was as if Puratan Gursikhs were legendary birds, one wing being melodious mesmerizing Keertan and the other wing being the fluent sustenance-filled Paath.

The feeling of per-functionary was present if there was a Keertani whose pronunciation of Gurbani was very poor. There is a big trend for the Sikhs of the modern era to learn Keertan and to perform in Sangat with countless mistakes in their pronunciation. It is very important to revive the lost efforts of reading/singing Paath fluently and moreover reading in LaReevaar.

With the Kirpa of Akaal Purakh Vaheguru, the Sangat of Guru Nanak Gurdwara, Edward Street, are trying to do exactly that. Lareedaar Santhiya will be taking place regularly twice a week on the following days starting from Tuesday 14th Sept:

Tuesdays: 6pm - 8pm
Sundays: 5pm - 7pm

@ Khalsa House,
Edward Street,
West Bromwich,
B70 8NP

Students will be taught: Gurmukhi (from beginning), Nitnem, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee, Bhai Gurdas Jee's Vaaran

"We are very serious about this Santhiya and don't want anyone to come and waste their own and others time. If you have a thirst for Gurbani and are willing to commit to the Santhiya then by all means you are welcome with open arms, you must make a solid time commitment to attend both classes"

Note: Can all students bring there own accessories i.e. Pens, Books, Sunder Gutkeh

VaheguruJeeKaaKhalsaVaheguruJeeKeeFateh

Youth Conference In Memory Of Jathedar Talwinder Singh Babbar

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 19:10:31 +0000

British Sikh Student Federation would like to invite you to this Akhand Patth Sahib & Youth Conference that is being held in memory of Jathedar Talwinder Singh Babbar at Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick.

We are currently going through a transitional phase in the UK and this will be a opportunity to express how the Youth can take over the reins of leadership without being bound to the diseases of negative competition, false defamation and disunity politics.

Please attend with family and friends.

Guru Nanak Gurdwara Smethwick128 - 132 High StreetSmethwick, United Kingdom

For more information please contact us on �

info@britishsikhstudentfederation.com

**Watch this space for poster to be uploaded in next few days**

Thursday 14th Oct 2010 to Saturday 16th Oct 2010

**5 PM Bhog**

November To Be Sikh Awareness Month In California

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:13:19 +0000

http://www.southasiamail.com/news.php?id=80122

By Gurmukh Singh

Yuba City (Northern California), Sep 5 (IANS) In a historic gesture for the 250,000-strong Sikh community in California, the state assembly has passed a resolution declaring November as 'California Sikh American Awareness and Appreciation Month.'

During the month, Sikh cultural and social events will be held to highlight their contribution to California since there arrival in the state more than a hundred years ago.

The resolution (ACR 181), which was moved by Assemblyman Dan Logue (Republican), was passed unanimously by the state assembly Sept 1, the Sikh community of Yuba City announced Saturday.

Yuba City, considered the first Punjabi village in North America, and its surrounding Sutter County areas are home to one of the largest concentration of the descendants of the first Indian immigrants into North America in the 1870-80s.

In fact, Yuba City's current mayor is a Sikh - Kash Gill - who assumed office in November last year.

This is the first such resolution passed by the California assembly to recognize the contribution of any immigrant group in the state.

"Californians of Sikh heritage have made many great contributions to California and I think it is important for all Californians to recognize and appreciate the important role Sikh Americans have played in our state,'' said Assemblyman Logue after the passage of the resolution. "The Yuba-Sutter area boasts one of the largest Sikh populations in the US., and they are truly a model community," the assemblyman added. "California has now recognized our contribution. Thanks to our area Assemblyman Logue, 'California Sikh American Awareness and Appreciation Month' in November will go a long way towards promote awareness about the Sikh community. It is a big milestone for us,'' Yuba City Sikh leader and prominent physician Jasbir Kang told IANS.

"When the assemblyman proposed the idea, we worked with him to formulate it. It is the best thing to happen to Yuba City Sikhs,'' added Kang who has organized many fund-raisers for the slum dwellers in India. Famous for its annual Sikh Parade which attracts about 100,000 Sikhs from around the world, Yuba City has five gurdwaras, one Hindu temple and a mosque. There are about 15,000 Punjabis, including Sikhs, Hindus and Muslims, in this city of 65,000.

Punjabi is taught as a second language in the three major schools of the city.

(Gurmukh Singh can be contacted at gurmukh.s@ians.in)

What Age Did You Get Into Sikhi?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:10:52 +0000

Poll says it all.

By getting into Sikhi, i mean by caring about Sikhi, wanting to learn more.

As sikhi means learning. so when you wanted to learn more about Sikhi

Youth Run Gurdwara Management Committees?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:07:02 +0000

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!

Whats the sangats view on youngsters running the gurdwara committees???

because most gurdwareh uncles dont speak english, and have to hire tour guides, when some schools want to visit...

and the uncles dont know what we want!

youngsters like camps, english-speaking lecturers etc.

whats your view on young commitee members? NO uncles.

WJKK WJKF

Tribute Paid To Legendary Martyr Of Human Rights, Sr. Jaswant Singh Khalra

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:53:46 +0000

Patiala (September 06, 2010): Sikh Students Federation, today, paid tribute to Legendary Martyr of Human Rights, Sr. Jaswant Singh Khalra. SSF has released a Video CD containing a speech of the rights activist, which was delivered by him at Ontario during his last visit in April 1995. It is notable that Khalra was abducted and there after killed by the Punjab Police from his Kabir Park, Amritsar situated residence on 6 September 1995. SSF President Paramjeet Singh Gazi informed that Jaswant Singh Khalra made tremendous contribution to the Human Rights by exposing the reality of so-called �unclaimed and unidentified dead bodies� of Young Sikhs killed and cremated illegally by the Armed forces in Punjab. �Justice Kuldeep Singh of Supreme Court, as he was then, had term this practice as even �Worse than Genocide�, while hearing a petition of Khalra Action Committee formed after disappearance of JS Khalra himself� informed PS Gazi.

Jaswant Singh Khalra, had shocked the world in mid-90s by placing, before Parliament of Canada, the photo copies of cremation grounds record and other firm evidences of mass-level Human rights abuse committed by Indian State�s armed forced in Punjab. Khalra brought into light systematic practices of �Enforced Disappearances� and �extra-judicial killings� of Sikhs adopted by State�s armed forces in Punjab during 1980s-90s. The general practice adopted by Punjab police to burn the dead bodies of Sikhs killed illegally by showing them as �unclaimed and unidentified dead bodies� had further worsen the situation.

Talking about the objective behind releasing VCD SSF President has said that �One of the objectives of SSF is to secure respect and promotion of Human Rights and this is an effort in this direction.� It shall be distributed free of cost among students and is also available online, on SSF�s website, for downloading.

http://www.sikhsiyasat.net/2010/09/06/tribute-paid-to-legendary-martyr-of-human-rights-sr-jaswant-singh-khalra/

Half Of First Batch Of Free Schools To Have Religious Ethos

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:50:26 +0000

Education secretary Michael Gove has announced the first 16 free schools, which will be set up as early as next September

Education secretary hails first 16 free schools, and promises teachers more freedom and 'sharper focus on underperforming primary schools' Link to this video

Almost half the first generation of new schools created by parents, teachers and charities will have a religious ethos, it was revealed today.

The education secretary, Michael Gove, announced the first 16 free schools, which will be set up as early as next September.

Two are Jewish, one is Sikh, one Hindu, one Church of England and two others will have a "Christian ethos".

Several do not yet have buildings, but others have found a church hall or temporary premises in existing schools. One will be based in a library on a council estate in west London.

The schools are in Bedford, Slough, West Sussex, Norfolk, north London, Leicester, Bradford, Suffolk and other areas.

Free schools � an idea taken from the US and Sweden � are one of the flagship Tory plans for education.

Parents and teachers are behind several of the schools, while charities are behind another, the Rivendale free school in Shepherd's Bush, west London.

The government rushed legislation through parliament before MPs' summer break to ensure that the free schools could be established as quickly as possible.

Labour accused Gove of presiding over a "chaotic shambles" after it emerged that only 16 free schools are on track to open next September.

In June, the education secretary hinted that 700 could be established. However, he said today that he was "flattered" by how many groups had applied to set up free schools.

"All of these proposals have been driven by demand from local people for improved choice for their young people," he added. "I am delighted that so many promising proposals have come forward at such an early stage."

The groups must now publish a business plan.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2010/sep/06/free-schools-religious-ethos-michael-gove

Vairag Shatak Pt 5 {English}

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 14:18:20 +0000

Dohra

�Dikk Kaladh Prashedh Bin , Chidanand Bupp Joy.

Svanbhvek Praman Tih , Nmo Kavya Itt Hoy.� {4}

Dikk = uttar=North , dakhan = South , poorab = East , pasham = West. Isaan , nairat , viay , agan , adho , urdh = [NE , NW , SE , SW, upwards and downwards] = duss disha = ten directions/co-ordinates. Kaal bhoot = the past , vartman = the present time , bhavikat = in the future are known as the three kaal {time}. Prashedh = khand= break into pieces. Chidhanand=Sat chit anand = eternal bliss. Bpoo = sareer=physical body. Svanbhvek = own anbhav=own experience. Who is without disha=particular direction/polar co-ordinates and without the boundaries of kaal=time i.e. the creator=Waheguru. The embodiment of sat chit anand = eternal joy. That which can only be experienced , I namaskar{salute} so that my kamita {heart�s desire} can be accomplished nirvighan {without obstacles}. {4}

Visthar{in-depth}. Lakhan {have knowledge about} and praman {examples} are the pre-requisites to obtain the sidhi {possession} of a vastu {goods} this is the niyam {law} , that is why the Granth karta Ji {author} has described Brahm {Waheguru} in the mangal {opening eulogy} in the form of lakhan {knowledge/characteristics}.

Joh {who} is shaant{at peace} and prakash {illumination} savroop {form} , who is without {is not} Upati{created} Palna{reared} and Parloh {apocalypse} , is the parkashak {illuminator} of the suraj{sun} and chandrma{moon} , is not affected by disha {direction/polar co-ordinates} and kal{time} etc. And that is sat chit anand roop {eternal happiness form}.

In the Granths=books , khatt {six} praman{examples} are given:-

{1} Pratakh , {2} Anuman , {3} Upman , {4} Arthapthi , {5} Shabadh , and {6} Abhav. In oreder to do the janoun {realisation} of Brahm {waheguru} the kewal {only} parman {example} is �Apna Anbhav Hi Praman Haih� {own personal experience is the only example}. It is not possible to have the realisation without personal anbhav {experience} , because Brahma{waheguru} or Atma{soul} has no sathool {tangible} sareer{body}. Owing to the fact that there is no sathool sareer {tangible body} Waheguru cannot be described using the pratakh parman {visual example} , since Brahm{Waheguru} or atma {soul} has no chinn chakkar {symbol} and that is why it is not possible to describe using Anuman praman {personal example}. Thirdly since Brahm or atma {Waheguru/soul} do not have any other exact identical similarities for comparison purposes so therefore cannot be described using the Apman praman. The atma {soul} is void of karaj-karan {cause & effect} , artharath {in other words} the soul itself does not have the ability to engage in karam {actions/deeds} and as such there are no resultant reactions , and that is why Waheguru cannot be described using the Artharpti method. The bachan {wise words} of Apat Pursh are called Shabadh. Apat Pursh are those people who have attained �Yatharath Vakta� i.e. evev from the bachan {wise words} of Mahapursh {great souls} it is sidh {can be seen/ is apparent} that �Har ki ghat neh kouoo janay , Jogi jatti tappi pach-haray aur bahut lokh syanay� {no one knows the ghatt {limits} of Hari {Waheguru} , the Jogi�s {spiritual one�s} , tappi�s {one�s who undergo strenuous endurance} and many syanay {wise elders} have failed. That is why Waheguru is not the visha {subject} of shabadh praman {literary example}. Brahm is viapak {present} everywhere and at every time , Waheguru is not abhav {absent} in any particular place or at any particular time and that is why Waheguru is not the visha {subject} of abhav praman {example} either. The kewal {one and only } method for realisation of waheguru is �Apna anbhav� {own personal experience} and that is why �Apna anbhav � praman {own personal experience example} is the praman {example}.

[Nijj Isht da Mangal] {Eulogy of personal object of devotion}.

What Is Importance Of Wearing Kachhera ?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:49:20 +0000

To Admin : I hope this post is not offensive in any way now !

Book By Bhai Jarnail Singh Journalist

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 04:58:27 +0000

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

Guru piyaareo, few days ago I had a brief chat on Facebook with Bhai Jarnail Singh journalist from India. Bhai Sahib is the same person who was in the news last year for throwing his shoe on India�s Union Minister of Home Affairs P. Chidambaram as a sign of protest against the government�s failure to do justice with regards to the anti-Sikh carnage of 1984. I chatted to him last year as well and wanted to come up with a plan to procure Bhai Sahib�s newly released book on the 1984 anti-Sikh carnage. The book has been released in Punjabi, English and Hindi. From what I was told by Bhai Sahib, the English and Hindi copies have been sold in large volumes, and several non-Sikh readers have very much appreciated it. However, Bhai Sahib was disappointed to point out that it is Sikhs who have not shown enough enthusiasm as the Punjabi copies haven�t sold as much. I wanted to know if Bhai Sahib has tried to sell the book abroad, but Bhai Sahib said he doesn�t have contacts to be able to do so.

Guru piyaareo this is the same Singh soorma who put his life and career at risk only to gain justice for the Sikh community. He has spent his entire savings in getting thousands of copies printed but no one is coming forward. Last year I tried to get an order placed for the local Gurdwara Sahib I go to, and there were people who were interested. However nothing materialized, and so this time I want to contact only a few people who are reliable and can make things happen. Bhai Sahib has been given words of support by many, but according to him 98% of them haven�t proven to be of genuine support. The worst thing right now would be if such a soorma is left alone disheartened. Please come forward to help. You may want to speak to your local Gurdwara committees if they want to place an order and procure the book written by Bhai Sahib. It may then be sold or distributed at the Gurdwara Sahib itself. This is the least we can do to make sure that the few true soldiers left who are fighting this battle for justice are not left neglected to fight it out all on their own. We do realize that it was the honor and dignity of our entire Panth that was attempted to be tarnished in 1984, not just the victims who suffered. However, Gurdwara committees may not always be the most ideal ones. In that case you can try to gather a few selected Amritdhari GurSikhs who feel the pain of the Panth and want justice for the victims

As of now, myself and another veerjee have decided to order 100 books (50 in English, 50 in Punjabi). I have contacted Bhai Jarnail Singh ji about this and have been told that the English ones are $15.00 per and Punjabi ones are $12.00 per copy, and this includes shipping charges as well.

Please let me know if and how you want to proceed. If you use Facebook and Bhai Sahib is in your friend list, you can contact him directly, otherwise please let me know and I shall have you get in touch with him to discuss further. This is only if genuine support can be provided and not mere words of encouragement. The time for talking has passed on, and now the hour calls for action. If anyone wants to make unwanted/immature comments, please don't bother to post in this thread as I want responses only from those who are willing to come forward rather than sit back and pass comments. We sit in the west and ask for a separate Sikh homeland, but if we can't even come forward to help a GurSikh who is trying to educate the world about what/how much the Sikhs have suffered, then lets ask ourselves, are we really sincere about a separate Sikh homeland?

bhull chukk maaf

Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

- Mehtab Singh

Time To Wipe Out Caste From Uk Gurdwaras

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 03:07:24 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqSDKxF_6SY
**Dal Khalsa UK Encourages All UK Sikhs To Join & Become Members Of Their Local Gurdwaras Especially Gurdwaras Such As So Called Ravidass & Ramgharia Sabhas Who Recently Have Been Rejecting Sikhs From Becoming Members Due To So Called Caste - UNDER UK LAW THEY CANNOT DISCRIMINATE ON YOU BASED ON SO CALLED CASTE & ARE LIABLE IN COURT IF THEY DO SO,ITS TIME WE UPROOTED THESE SO CALLED CASTE GURDWAREH & THEIR CORRUPT COMMITEES WHO ARE DESTROYING THE VERY ESSENCE OF SIKHISM THROUGH IMPLEMENTING THE HINDU CASTE SYSTEM IN GURU GHARS**

Guru Nanak Dev Ji In Ajmer?

Mon, 06 Sep 2010 00:48:08 +0000

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

This website mentions that Maharaj went to Ajmer Sharif and admired Khwaja Moinuddin Chisty.

http://dargahsharif....RIB%20NAWAZ.htm

Did Guru Nanak Dev Ji visit the dargah? Or is this just another attempt to twist facts?

PS Benti to all, please discuss this lightly and respectfully.

Bhul Chuk Maaf

541 Hours Of Naam Simran For 21St Nov!

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:49:09 +0000

Vaheguroo Jee Kaa Khalsaa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

Pyaree Saadh Sangat Jeeo! To mark the blessed occasion of Sri Satguru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaaj's coming to this world, Gupt sevadaar request sangat to do 541 Hours of Gurmantar Naam Simran by the 21st Novemeber (this year being the 541st anniversary). If we can even get passed this number then Vaaheguroo Sahib da shukar hai!

You can do any amount of simran from just a few minutes to a few hours, it all counts! then please let us know how much maharaj has allowed you to do by posting it here (according to how much time you have spent, eg. 5 mins, 1 hour,etc.). Request to the mods please make this a sticky and please update this first post with a counter like on the mool mantar thread.
Also please ensure you actually do the simran and dont just listen to it!
Lets get going!!

Akaal!!

ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਹੈ ਜਪਿ ਹਉਮੈ ਖੋਈ ।
vaahiguroo guramantr hai japi haumai khoee|
His Guru-manta is Vahiguru, whose recitation erases egotism.
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ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਏ ਆਪਿ ਹੈ ਗੁਣ ਗੁਣੀ ਪਰੋਈ ॥੨॥
aapu gavaaay aapi hai gun gunee paroee ॥2॥
Losing egotism and merging into the qualities of the supreme Lord, he himself becomes full of qualities.

Vaaheguroo Vaaheguroo Vaaheguroo Vaaheguroo Vaaheguroo

Betrayed Someone'S Trust

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 21:31:27 +0000

Fateh

Basically I told someone I wouldn't do something and then I did it later on, and i feel sooo bad about it i cant even explain. I can't reverse what I did, but how can things be right? Me doing the thing hasnt really caused harm to that person, BUT if they knew that I did it then it would reallly hurt them. So obviously I dont think telling them will be right because that would end up hurting them ALOT more. Basically I said I wouldn't ask about their past from someone but I did anyway... and know I know some things about their past which I know they do not want me to know, however I do not feel any lesser about them. What can I do to fix this situation? Its not like I can forget what I know even though it makes no difference to me. Is an ardaas and apology to maharj enough?? But i still feel bad that i know that stuff about them they dont want me to know and they actually think that i dont know because i told them i wouldnt ask the other person.

plz help, i feel soo low right now.

The Sangat Television (New Sikh Channel Launched)‏

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 20:35:19 +0000

With the Guroo�s blessings Sangat Trust welcomes you to
Sangat Television
the first project by Sangat Trust.

About Sangat Trust:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwlho-1vcN8

The Trust is supported by Gurdwara's, Businesses, Organisations and Sevadaar's from all over the UK.

You can tune in to watch it on Sky Channel 847

Please forward message to family and friends!

Shastar Naam Mala With English Translations

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:16:00 +0000

To continue to encourage those who wish to learn Gurbani, Shastar Naam Mala is available freely on Youtube.com/Sikhi for streaming, and on www.Sikhee.com on www.RajKaregaKhalsa.Net for downloading.

It will be available in .wmv for computers, .mp4 for iPods, .3GP for mobiles, etc and any other format sangat wants.

Shastar Naam Mala: Literally translating to 'string of weapons', this is a comprehensive list of weapons used in battle and covers 1318 verses. Many names of weapons are given in addition to references of great warriors (historical and mythological) who wealded them. Many weapons that were in their infancy at the time of the Guru, such as cannons and rifles, are also mentioned.

Amrit Kirtan Pothi

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:21:29 +0000

vjkk vkjf!

Das wants to learn how to use an amrit kirtan pothi. When in sangat, I normally rely on sikhitothemax and on a projector to know for sure what to sing. But without the projector I'm lost b/c there's no search by first letter function on a pothi

So my question is how do I use the index in an amrit kirtan pothi to find the shabad I want to read?

For example, If I'm looking for the shabad Gun kirat nidh mori what do I do?

3 Devte

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:51:32 +0000

VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh

There seem to be a small number of confused Sikhs these days who have been misled into thinking that Vaheguroo/Guru Sahib and the 3 devte of snaatan mat (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are the same. It is important such mindset is nipped in the bud and it is easy to do so as Gurbani is crystal clear on the subject. Below I have added one shabad from Guru Granth Sahib Ji clearing up the whole issue plus aarth from Freedkot teeka for all to see. This is not even what some may call a 'modern' interpretation but arths of traditional nirmalas respected by Mahapurash. (source:srigranth.org, please note some of the romanised has not pasted correctly, you can also read the shabad here ).

ਵਡਹੰਸੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੩ ॥
vad▫hans mėhlā 3.
Wadahans, Third Mehl:

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਸਦ ਮੀਠਾ ਲਾਗਾ ਗੁਰ ਸਬਦੀ ਸਾਦੁ ਆਇਆ ॥
Amriṯ nām saḏ mīṯẖā lāgā gur sabḏī sāḏ ā▫i▫ā.
The Ambrosial Nectar of the Naam is always sweet to me; through the Word of the Guru's Shabad, I come to taste it.

ਸਚੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਸਹਜਿ ਸਮਾਣੀ ਹਰਿ ਜੀਉ ਮਨਿ ਵਸਾਇਆ ॥੧॥
Sacẖī baṇī sahj samāṇī har jī▫o man vasā▫i▫ā. ||1||
Through the True Word of the Guru's Bani, I am merged in peace and poise; the Dear Lord is enshrined in the mind. ||1||

ਹਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਕਿਰਪਾ ਸਤਗੁਰੂ ਮਿਲਾਇਆ ॥
Har kar kirpā saṯgurū milā▫i▫ā.
The Lord, showing His Mercy, has caused me to meet the True Guru.

ਪੂਰੈ ਸਤਗੁਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Pūrai saṯgur har nām ḏẖi▫ā▫i▫ā. ||1|| rahā▫o.
Through the Perfect True Guru, I meditate on the Name of the Lord. ||1||Pause||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮੈ ਬੇਦ ਬਾਣੀ ਪਰਗਾਸੀ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹ ਪਸਾਰਾ ॥
Barahmai beḏ baṇī pargāsī mā▫i▫ā moh pasārā.
Through Brahma, the hymns of the Vedas were revealed, but the love of Maya spread.

ਮਹਾਦੇਉ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਵਰਤੈ ਘਰਿ ਆਪਣੈ ਤਾਮਸੁ ਬਹੁਤੁ ਅਹੰਕਾਰਾ ॥੨॥
Mahāḏe▫o gi▫ānī //ṯai gẖar āpṇai ṯāmas bahuṯ ahaŉkārā. ||2||
The wise one, Shiva, remains absorbed in himself, but he is engrossed in dark passions and excessive egotism. ||2||

ਕਿਸਨੁ ਸਦਾ ਅਵਤਾਰੀ ਰੂਧਾ ਕਿਤੁ ਲਗਿ ਤਰੈ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥
Kisan saḏā avṯārī rūḏẖā kiṯ lag ṯarai sansārā.
Vishnu is always busy reincarnating himself - who will save the world?

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਰਤੇ ਜੁਗ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਚੂਕੈ ਮੋਹ ਗੁਬਾਰਾ ॥੩॥
Gurmukẖ gi▫ān raṯe jug anṯar cẖūkai moh gubārā. ||3||
The Gurmukhs are imbued with spiritual wisdom in this age; they are rid of the darkness of emotional attachment. ||3||

ਸਤਗੁਰ ਸੇਵਾ ਤੇ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਤਰੈ ਸੰਸਾਰਾ ॥
Saṯgur sevā ṯe nisṯārā gurmukẖ ṯarai sansārā.
Serving the True Guru, one is emancipated; the Gurmukh crosses over the world-ocean.

ਸਾਚੈ ਨਾਇ ਰਤੇ ਬੈਰਾਗੀ ਪਾਇਨਿ ਮੋਖ ਦੁਆਰਾ ॥੪॥
Sācẖai nā▫e raṯe bairāgī pā▫in mokẖ ḏu▫ārā. ||4||
The detached renunciates are imbued with the True Name; they attain the gate of salvation. ||4||

ਏਕੋ ਸਚੁ ਵਰਤੈ ਸਭ ਅੰਤਰਿ ਸਭਨਾ ਕਰੇ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲਾ ॥
Ėko sacẖ //ṯai sabẖ anṯar sabẖnā kare parṯipālā.
The One True Lord is pervading and permeating everywhere; He cherishes everyone.

ਨਾਨਕ ਇਕਸੁ ਬਿਨੁ ਮੈ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਾ ਸਭਨਾ ਦੀਵਾਨੁ ਦਇਆਲਾ ॥੫॥੫॥
Nānak ikas bin mai avar na jāṇā sabẖnā ḏīvān ḏa▫i▫ālā. ||5||5||
O Nanak, without the One Lord, I do not know any other; He is the Merciful Master of all. ||5||5||

ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮੁ ਮੁਝ ਕੋ ਨਿਤ੍ਯ ਮੀਠਾ ਲਾਗਾ ਹੈ ਅਰੁ ਗੁਰੋਂ ਕੇ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਮੇਂ ਹੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਨਾਮ ਕਾ ਸ੍ਵਾਦ ਆਇਆ ਹੈ ਗੁਰ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਰੂਪ ਸਚੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਕਰਕੇ ਬ੍ਰਿਤੀ ਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਮੇਂ ਸਮਾਈ ਹੈ ਅਰਥਾਤ ਚੇਤਨਾਕਾਰ ਹੂਈ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਹਰਿ ਜੀ ਕੋ ਮਨ ਮੇਂ ਬਸਾਯਾ ਹੈ॥
ਹਰਿ ਨੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਕੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਮਿਲਾਯਾ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਪੂਰੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੋਂ ਕੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਕਰਨੇ ਸੇ ਮੈਨੇ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਇਆ ਹੈ।
ਜਿਸ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੇਂ ਨੇ ਬੇਦ ਬਾਣੀ ਪ੍ਰਕਾਸੀ ਭਾਵ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਕਰੀ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਤਿਸਨੇ ਮਾਯਾ ਕਾ ਹੀ ਮੋਹ ਕਰਕੇ ਪਸਾਰਾ ਕੀਆ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਜੋ ਮਹਾ ਦੇਉ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਅਪਨੇ ਸਰੂਪ ਮੇਂ ਬਰਤ ਰਹਾ ਭਾਵ ਇਸਥਿਤ ਰਹਿਤਾ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਤਿਸ ਮੈ (ਤਾਮਸੁ) ਤਮੋਗੁਣ ਕੀ ਅਧਿਕਤਾ ਸੇ ਅਹੰਕਾਰ ਬਹੁਤ ਹੋ ਰਹਾ ਹੈ॥੨॥
(ਕਿਸਨੁ) ਬਿਸਨ ਸਦੀਵਕਾਲ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਧਾਰਨ ਕਰਨੇ ਹੀ ਮੇਂ ਰੁਕਾ ਹੂਆ ਹੈ ਭਾਵ ਯਹਿ ਕਿ ਅਪਨੇ ਬਲ ਛਲ ਸੇ ਪ੍ਰਜਾ ਕੀ ਰਖ੍ਯਾ ਮੇਂ ਰੁਕਾ ਹੈ ਅਬ ਬਤਾਓ ਗੁਰੋਂ ਸੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਕਿਸਕੋ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਮੈਂ ਲਗ ਕਰ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਤਰੈ ਭਾਵ ਇਨ ਤੀਨੋਂ ਦੇਵਤਾਓਂ ਕੋ ਉਪਦੇਸ ਕਰਨੇ ਕਾ ਅਵਿਕਾਸ਼ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਤੇ ਜੋ ਗੁਰੋਂ ਦ੍ਵਾਰੇ ਗ੍ਯਾਨ ਮੇਂ ਰਾਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਸੋਈ ਜੁਗ ਜੁਗ ਮੇਂ ਤਰਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਤਿਨਕਾ ਮੋਹ ਰੂਪ ਗੁਬਾਰਾ ਸਘਨ ਰੂਪੁ ਅੰਧੇਰਾ ਚੂਕ ਜਾਤਾ ਹੈ॥
ਤਾਂਤੇ ਸਤਿਗੁਰੋਂ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਸੇ ਹੀ ਨਿਸਤਾਰਾ ਹੋਤਾ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਗੁਰਮੁਖ ਹੋ ਕਰਕੇ ਜੀਵ ਸੰਸਾਰ ਸੇ ਤਰਤਾ ਹੈ ਐਸੇ ਜੋ ਬੈਰਾਗਵਾਨ ਸਾਚੇ ਨਾਮ ਮੇਂ ਰਾਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਸੋ ਮੋਖ ਕਾ ਦੁਆਰਾ ਜੋ ਗਿਆਨ ਹੈ ਤਿਸ ਕੋ ਪਾਵਤੇ ਹੈਂ॥੪॥
ਸਭ ਕੇ ਅੰਤਸ਼ਕਰਣ ਮੇਂ ਏਕ ਸਤ ਪਰਮਾਤਮਾ ਬਰਤ ਰਹਾ ਹੈ ਔਰ ਵਹੀ ਸਭ ਕਾ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲ ਕਰਤਾ ਹੈ। ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਹਤੇ ਹੈਂ ਜੋ ਏਕ ਦ੍ਯਾਲ ਸਭ ਕਾ (ਦੀਵਾਨ) ਆਸਰਾ ਹੈ ਤਿਸ ਏਕ ਸੇ ਬਿਨਾਂ ਮੈਂ ਔਰ ਕਿਸੀ ਕੋ ਨਹੀਂ ਜਾਨਤਾ ਹੂੰ॥੫॥੫॥

Sri Guru Nanak In Italy, Kenya, East Africa Dar Es Slaam, France Canada, In Turkey, Burma, Uganda, And In Rome.

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:47:22 +0000

I've found this website which shows the journey of Guru Nanak in Turkey Rome and other european counteries
And that Guru Nanak even preached in Rome and talked to Martin Luther and its recored in Suraj Prakash.
http://satguru.weebly.com/

Waheguru

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:21:30 +0000

Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru

Sikhs Must Modernize To Prevent Youth From Joining Gangs: Group

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 07:03:11 +0000

http://www.ctvbc.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20100904/bc_sikh_modernize_100904/20100904?hub=BritishColumbiaHome

Sikhs must modernize to prevent youth from joining gangs: group

By: The Canadian Press

Date: Saturday Sep. 4, 2010 12:44 PM PT

North America's oldest Sikh temple society needs to modernize century-old traditions before more youth are lost to gang violence, says a spokesman for a group that has sued the society over its membership process.

Jatinder Singh of Sikh Youth Vancouver said Friday that the Khalsa Diwan Society is stuck in old-school thinking that's keeping young people out of its temple.

Singh, 42, said parents and grandparents of young Sikhs also want the temple, called the Ross Street Gurdwara, to change with the times.

"They want modernization," he said.

"They're tired of their children no longer knowing the Punjabi language, they're tired of their grandchildren falling into cycles of violence and gangs and drugs. And they're tired of their children and grandchildren being disengaged from Canadian society and the Sikh community."

Singh said his group has unsuccessfully tried to meet with the society to suggest outreach programs and an Internet site to engage young people.

"I don't think we're advocating that they should have their religious services by Twitter," he said.

"We're just talking about how do we engage an entirely disconnected era of people," he said. "When you lack a sense of community, you lack a sense of responsibility and when you lack that you become engaged in things that are tainting our community."

Kesar Bhatti, the society's senior vice-president, said earlier this week that Singh's group consists of so-called fundamentalists who are only interested in controlling the temple now run by moderates.

But Singh, who said he began attending the temple as a child in 1973 and recently returned there, called Bhatti's assertions "nonsense," saying such labels have nothing to do with his concerns.

"We are, in a word, modernists, and they're traditionalists," he said.

Sikh Youth Vancouver recently filed a lawsuit against the society after questioning the transparency of its membership process.

Singh said both sides have now complied with a B.C. Supreme Court judge's order to agree on a third-party administrator who would oversee memberships before an election at the temple.

Last week, a judge invalidated the memberships of thousands of people, saying the process was flawed.

But Bhatti, 79, said a count of 5,000 membership cards showed that five of them were not signed and about 30 were duplicates, although that error would have later been picked up.

The election, held every three years, was scheduled for Nov. 6, but has now been put into limbo before Justice Paul Walker approves the administrator and a new membership procedure is finalized.

Singh said his group is "very aggressively" trying to recruit members for the next election, after the legal issues have been settled.

"We've knocked on hundreds of doors over the last few months," he said, adding the group is using social networking sites to draw people.

"The membership drive is purely the mechanism by which we're looking to bring a progressive, next-generation, modern leadership to the institution," Singh said.

For example, he said his group proposed online membership applications but the society wasn't interested, even after an offer to pay for someone to make that happen.

"It doesn't make sense that in almost 2011 to have an institution of this size, with the largest Sikh temple society outside of India, to be unable to communicate with you by email."

He said anyone can watch online services and events held at the Golden Temple, Sikh's holiest shrine, in India.

"We're talking about a developing nation with sporadic Internet connections and electricity that you have approximately one third of the day."

A Sikh Girl'S Request To The Jathedars..

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:58:42 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceJ1ZSxe2L0

Frustrated - Need Damalla Material

Sun, 05 Sep 2010 01:40:04 +0000

My question is, is there anywhere you can order mal mal damalla material online, If so, i'd really appreciate it. The two kapray I have for damalla material are fine for tying, but they're incredibly short. I think they're 1.5 meters each (they haven't been cut in half yet). My problem is the size is off and it doesn't look good when I tie it...the last lard comes out in front, I can't really make it shorter as it's already really short as it is.

Also, if by any chance someone could buy some from a local store (or even have personal material), name the price and I'd be willing to buy it. I don't think there are any stores in Fresno that would sell it. I'm studying too right now so I don't have a lot of time to go around and search :(.

I found this image on google images, i was wondering how long the material probably is for this damalla? It looks great!:

Chandigarh Samgam Live

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 21:28:16 +0000

VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh

http://www.akj.org/skins/one/live.php# WOW

Facebook

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 18:00:02 +0000

Facebook

Addiction of 21^st century

It seems if a person has access to internet then they have to have a Facebook page, it�s like a requirement. Even I have one, which I have deleted and reopened countless times. The creators of Facebook must know how addicting it is that is why they don�t make it so simple to quit. First you have to really search to even find the quit option and even then if you access it at all in the next two weeks, the quit option is cancelled. Every once in a while someone will link to my blog from Facebook and I get tempted to check and I cancel my Facebook cancellation by logging in. Having reopened my account and cancelled it many times, I turn to Waheguru Ji to help me understand this addiction as Sanmukh. It is a game of Maya (illusion), moh (attachment) and haankar (ego).

Sometimes if feels that facebook is a bigger illusion then the real world itself. At least this world you can reach out and touch stuff but that�s not possible on facebook. There is every kind of fake games available that are created to look realistic. They look so realistic that the people spend hours on end farming, playing poker and doing all the stuff they would never do in real life. When people aren�t playing games they are chatting with people they otherwise would never have guts to talk to. It�s this fake illusion of this fake world that we create on facebook. We think we can control it because it�s online and we can turn the computer off at any time but we forget about attachment.

Attachment is so strong that it brings our fake world on facebook into our real world. All day we wonder whether someone messaged us or commented on our picture and we run from our real life to the fake world of Facebook. This attachment grows so big soon if we are away from our computer we are on Facebook on our phones. We fall in love with the people that we met on Facebook and begin to sideline the people that are in our real life. It seems to be some sort of achievement to have the most people on your friends list, regardless of the fact if you even know them or talk to them. This attachment is the main reason we can�t get away from Facebook, until it is too late.

Attachment makes way for ego to come into play and break this illusion of a perfect online world. When a person�s ego is hurt over being slighted on by someone in this fake world the damage caused is unimaginable. People have been known for committing suicide when there online world turns on them. Some have made the biggest of their lives when they meet people from their online world only to find out they person they had fallen in love with online, was nothing like that in real life. There are some people how upon being slighted go found that person in real life and caused them harm. They have thrown acid, raped, beaten and god knows what. Ego is what brings fake world of Facebook into the real world.

This fake world of Facebook is full of illusion, attachment and ego that make it hard to give up even though we know how bad it is for us. As sanmukh I want nothing to do with the 5evils and for me facebook is home to the 5 evils. Yes, it is possible to find some good sangat and connect with people on Facebook but it is hard and a person is more likely to stray. If one wants good sangat they should head to Sikhi related websites and Gurudwara Sahib, where antiSikhi things aren�t promoted at every step.

May Waheguru Ji bless me to stay away from the 5 evils and Facebook.

Four Questions (10% To Guru, Covering Hair In Morning & Washing Kachcherey, Folding Pagg Cloth )

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:25:05 +0000

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

It wasn't so long ago I took Amrit. Like I said in a previous post, so many things were discussed that it left room for other things to be left out or discussed in a way that wasn't perfectly clear to me (and other things maybe not even appropriate to discuss there). I am coming here to hopefully fill in some gaps.

1) When you give your 10% of your earnings to Guru do you place it on the Palki (which means someone could grab it) or do you write a check to the gurudwara and mail it to the office/president?

2) During the discourse of the Amrit ceremony, it was explained that after our bath in the morning when we leave the house we must have our hair covered in pagg but before we leave the house we can let our head remain uncovered so our hair can dry. But the first thing you do after your bath is recite Gurbani, so I am not clear if I misunderstood him to mean you can say your Gurbani bare headed while your hair is drying, which I don't understand. Please, what is the truth of the matter?

3) My next question: Are you supposed to wash your kachcherey by hand instead of in a washing machine? I've been washing mine by hand simply out of fear that in a machine the drawstrings would get yanked out, but something tells me that even if I secured the strings with a safety pin washing them in a machine would be disrespectful or something. What is the truth of the matter?

4) I am having pagg problem. I have learned very well from videos how to tie a general pagg but I cannot get the folding right with one end on the doorknob (5 or 7 metre), it all just twists to rope. The videos all show two people folding the cloth, so there is uniformity and thinness and control which I simply cannot get alone on a doorknob. Do you have any suggestions for obtaining that with a doorknop, videos, etc.? My goal is to have a general pagg with a fifty.

5) Is it ok to listen to my MP3 player on long walks, on train, at laundromat, etc., or are those days over?

6) At the Amrit during the discussion on diet, I was told to be careful in restaurants regarding possible foods with geletain in them. Another thing I am aware of is that in hard cheeses there is an enzyme from a pig's stomach called rennet which is what makes the cheese go hard. Mozarella cheese is mushy, so I am not sure what the rennett content is, but do you definitely are we allowed to eat pizza? (Kosher pizza is different because it is totally vegetarian cheese, no milk no rennett, but here I am asking about the typical corner pizzaria).

Thank you very much for all your great help. It is very helpful.

Launch Of Singh Soorme Magazine - Edition 1 Btfk Sikh Freedom And Remembrance Rally 2010 � Launch Of Singh Soorme

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:43:53 +0000

SIKH FREEDOM AND REMEMBRANCE RALLY 2010 – Launch of Singh Soorme

Once a year, Sikhs in the UK unite under the banner of the Sikh Nation to voice their protest against the atrocities committed by the Indian Government against Sikhs from 1984.

It was at this iconic march attended by tens of thousands of Sikhs proudly sporting saffron (representing martyrdom) Dastaars, Flags and T-shirts, that 5,000 copies of the first edition of SINGH SOORME was released. The full colour glossy magazine detailing Singhs from the Bhindranwale Tiger Force was received very well among the old and young alike. All the articles were written especially for the magazine and featured many pictures unseen for over 25 years.

The front cover and also a few of the pages are attached as a sneak preview.

The Neverforget84.com Team are grateful to the Sangat who made this achievement, by donating nearly £1750 for the printing. Magazines have been sent out to all donors this week. If anyone would like a copy please make a donation (to cover postage and packing) of £3 (UK) or £5 (rest of the world).

Preparation are already in full swing for the 2nd edition of the quarterly magazine, which will cover Singhs from a different Jujharoo Jathebandi.

All donations received will go towards the next edition, all donations will be published on the website (with or without names) as before. We would like to encouage more donations of smaller amounts as the previous magazine was completely funded by donations from 30 or so donors.

To ensure every Sikh is aware of the sacrifices made by our Shaheeds please continue to support the project.

To make a Donation please go to - http://www.neverforget84.com/donation-projects

To purchase the Singh Soorme magazine please visit - http://www.neverforget84.com/singh-soorme

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Vairag Shatak Pt 4 {English}

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 12:38:44 +0000

Dohra

�Shaant Prakash Svroop prati nmo sarbdah hoy.

Srisht Satith Laey Kyob Bin Rav suss Bhasak hoy.� {3}

Sarbdha=persistent, in all ages. Srisht=utpatti=creation. Satith=satirtha=hond=being/stability. Laey=naas=parloh=apocalypse. Rav=suraj=sun. Suss=chandrma=moon. Bhasak=the creator of parkash=light. Soy=that so.

Arth {meaning}. My perpetual namaskar {salutation} to the Shaant and Parkash roop , who is without utpati {creation} palnah {rearing} and parloh {apocalypse}. And responsible for the parkash {illumination} of the suraj {sun} and the chandrmah {moon}. {Waheguru}.

TO BE CONTINUED , WAHEGURU WILLING.

Subaig Singh On A Rampage!

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:46:00 +0000

Subaig Singh demolished his opponent in his second fight so much that the ring was covered with blood, and his opponent was so humiliated that he refused to shake our subaigs hand. Subaig is in full time training and with Guru�s kirpa will soon make it to professional level and we could see him hit higher levels in near future. Subaig has achieved so much for our community; yes we have had Punjabi- Sikh mona brothers winning titles in all types of martial arts. But he is one of the first keshdari fighters and is becoming a role model for younger keshdari Sikhs who are suffering from a lack of positive role models and low confidence.

Slander of Subaig Singh

Recently he made a video, in which for once Singhs (Sikh Lads) are seen in a respectful way. In most videos we have our sisters half naked and our lads drinking and doing stupid things looking like clowns. For once in this video we do not look like clowns infact the video inspires you to train and become a lion.

Yes the lyrics say jatt, every time jatt is mentioned people jump to caste! The word jatt is also used to describe farmers and people include it in songs to describe their family heritage and background. Farmers in Punjab work hard and it was a hands on job in the olden days where hours of strenuous muscle aching movement was required. Yeah there are tunes where some people use jatt in reference to a so called caste system, but this does not mean every time the jatt word is used that it is referring to caste.(jatt is also just a general term and is used regularly to describe farmers in the punjabi language)

LHM spoke to subaig singh via phone:

He said �I would have preferred the term Singhs instead of Jatt, but it was not my tune I was asked to do a video, I feel as if I have achieved what I wanted to achieve in the video. 1: that is to represent Singhs in a positive light instead of drinking, clowning around with girls etc. 2: inspire young apna lads to train and already my friends have told me they felt like training after watching the video.

�I do not believe in caste and had a listen to the tune before I done the video and I do not see a caste issue in the tune at all; it is talking about farmers in general and not bringing up the so called hierarchy system or a offensive view into the lyrics.

LHM comment:

Haters need to get a life and concentrate on doing something positive themselves. These weirdo Sikhs who are in planet Pluto need to come back down to earth and stop condemning others and take a look at themselves.

Just have a look at the video, mute the track if you wish. But just have a look at the video!

If you are interested in sponsoring Subaig Singh, please email subaigsingh@hotmail.com

http://lionheartznews.blogspot.com/2010/08/8th-edition-subiag-singh-on-rampage.html

Help Me!

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:11:24 +0000

I do not know what it is but i just feel like killing myself. I try everything to take my mind of things but it doesnt help. yes there are pervious posts saying the same thing. i tried reading bania, i still feel the same way.

I DO NOT WANT TO FEEL LIKE THIS, I WANT TO BECOME A GOOD PERSON!!

Muslim Scholar Claims Guru Nanak Dev Ji Never Visited Mecca

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 01:31:44 +0000

So-called scholar answers in a rather ignorant & arrogant manner

Inter- Religious Marriages And Rehat Maryada

Sat, 04 Sep 2010 00:47:21 +0000

Inter-religious marriages are not allowed for catholics and muslims. In both of these religion .both the marriage parteners have to convert to the religion (or deemed to have converted to the religion) in order to have the religious marriage ceremony
However, in the west, for many years the Sikh parents of the girls felt O.K (infact some felt proud) to have two ceremonies, one in Gurdwara and other afterwards in Church or Mosque. This they approve to save the face. Please, note that the Church or Islamic ceremonies are conducted after the Gurdwara ceremony ( usually without much fanfare in such cases) . To have that ceremony the girl usually converts to the religion of the husband in a very private ceremony then the marriage ceremony afterwords. The parents feel quit happy to be invited to the marriage ceremony. Some even boast of their broadmindedness, knowing little that their child has already converted. The daughter occasionally goes to the Gurdwara with their parents pretending that she is still a Sikh. It is nice to see that even the Gurdwaras have started to ask the question (This is already in the Sikh Rehat Maryada, but in the west it is seldom mentioned)

Please, read the news below.

Source: http://timesofindia....how/6482615.cms

CHANDIGARH: In a first, inter-religion live-in partners have got security from the Punjab and Haryana High Court after religious heads refused to solemnize their marriage unless they converted to one religion.

That left them with the only option of marrying under the Special Marriage Act, which requires their parents to be informed.

This has posed danger to their lives as their families are opposed to their marriage. Jagroop Ali and Kulwant Kaur of Moga district in Punjab sought protection from the high court.

The couple, who decided to settle into a live-in relationship after refusing to convert, was granted legal protection from the girl's enraged parents.

Kulwant, who belongs to Jat Sikh community, and Jagroop Ali left their village on June 22 because Kulwant's parents were unwilling to allow their marriage.

Both of them approached gurdwaras and mosques to solemnize their marriage, but both refused as they belonged to different religions. Kulwant and Ali then pledged to live together for life.

Apprehending threat from Kulwant's family, the couple moved a petition before the high court on Wednesday. Hearing the couple's plight, Justice Daya Chaudhary asked the SSP, Moga and other respondents to ensure their life and liberty.

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Admin Note: Already posted - http://www.sikhsanga..._1&#entry471481

Vishesh Keertan Program - Live Video Broadcast

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 21:20:04 +0000

On occasion of Prakash Purab of Guru Granth Sahib ji, Ham Chakar Gobind Ke Shabad Chauki Jatha, Gurdwara Damdama Sahib is organizing a Kirtan program at Gurdwara Shri Damdama Sahib, Delhi on Sept 4rth, 2010.

Following are the program details:

07:30-08:30PM Bhai Amritpal Singh Ji Delhi Wale

08:30-09:30PM Bhai Nirmal Singh Ji Nagpuri, Shri Harimandir Sahib

09:30-10:30PM Bhai Gagandeep Singh Ji, Shri Harimandir Sahib

10:30-11:30PM Bhai Balbir Singh Ji, Shiromani Ragi - Shri Harimandir Sahib

11:30PM - 12:30AM Bhai Manpreet Singh Ji Kanpuri

Sangat is requested to join the program in Charhdi Kala. Video Broadcast will be LIVE on Baani.Net

Windsor Gurdwara Dictators Ban 25 Members Of The Sikh Community!

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 20:41:19 +0000

WINDSOR GURDWARA DICTATORS BAN 25 MEMBERS OF THE SIKH COMMUNITY!!

http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/W ... 1580502553

In the above link, you can see that the long disputed leadership at Windsor Gurdwara got serious in court on August 31st, 2010. In the decision, the court ruled Kandola's committee temporary power until the next hearing on October 15th, 2010.
That's not all...until the next hearing, the Kandola's had asked to have 25 people kept away from the Gurdwara, which the judge granted. Not just that, but they can't be anywhere near 1000m near the premises of the Gurdwara, or they can be arrested! These 25 people (who have no criminal record) are labeled as dangerous!!

It's funny though...majority of the 25 members that they have banned, are none other than the same people that built the Gurdwara almost 10 years ago. It's sad how something so beautiful and once well reputable has fallen into the wrong hands.
Also, on September 1st, the executive committee gave a broadcast on the whole situation by CBC news. In the broadcast
you can see that they called the police inside the Gurdwara (with shoes). Also in the interview given with the secretary, he is shown making a statement in which he relates his fellow sikhs to the Taliban!

( Watch here -----> http://www.cbc.ca/video/#/News/Canada/W ... 1580502553 )

As a sikh he should be ashamed to say something like that, even if it is to someone against you. We need to build respect for Sikhs, not lower it!

I apologize if I have said anything wrong.

Vairag Shatak Pt 3 {English}

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:56:22 +0000

Guru Pyari Satsangat Jeo, WaheguruJiKaKhalsaWaheguruJiKeFateh.

This is the second opening manglacharan of this Granth. Please note that Bharthari Ji are in fact praising Waheguru {the creator} in their poetry. This will become more and more apparent in the subsequent translations. The purpose of this translation is not to eulogise the deities but the core message being sent in the poetry of this Granth. There are about 285 pages all in all and as we read/translate more and more it will become clear that Bharthari Ji are extolling the virtues of Prabhu {Waheguru} simran with complete and utter vairag {renunciation of maya}.

Please forgive the shortcomings and do ardas that we can become more attached to Naam Simran. Bhul chuk maaf Khalsa Jio.

Svaya

�Jih Ses Ki Sejh Pah Sann Kioyo,

Padh Komal Ko Malti Kamla Hi.

Kar Meh Darr Chakkar Saroj Gaddha,

Prighpadh Garay Srik Angadh Bahi.

Jipaadh Ke Vaar Soh Char Bichar Dharoy,

Thriprar Sadha Sirmahi.

Roop Jise Urr Bhitar Haih,

Bhav Bheet Rehay Kash Tah Urr Nahi. {2}

Suss=Shesh Naag. Sann=Bisram=Saunah=sleeping. Komal=kooleh=Naram=delicate/fragile. Kamla=Lashmi. Karr=Hath=Hand. Darr=Sankh=Seashell shaped instrument which is blown. Saroj=Kamal=Lotus. Gaddha=Long handled weapon with sphere at top. Prighpadh=The footprint of Prighu Rikhi.

Once upon a time the Rikhis contemplated doing the preekhia {testing} of the Devtay {deities}. With everyone�s salah {agreement} Prighu Ji set off. First they went to Bramha who greeted Prighu Ji in a very hankar barhia {egoistic} manner. Then they went to Shiv Ji who also greeted them with Krodh {anger}. Finally they went to Vishnu Ji and upon seeing him asleep he kicked him but in return Vishnu Ji held the feet of Prighu and said �Bhagwan ! My sareer {body} is kahtor {hard}, did it hurt your komal {fragile} sareer {body} in any way?" Upon hearing this Prighu Ji was pleased immensely and thus said "wadhay de wadhay hi jigray hunday hunn {only the mighty possess mighty jigray {tolerance threshold} , you are truly the sirtaj {jewel in the crown} of all devtay {deities}. If you are not niraz {upset} with me then allow the my footprint to embedded on your sareer {body} eternally, and whichever avtar {reincarnation} your dharan {form} that chinh {sign/symbol} should remain intact the name of which is "Prighpaad" or "Prighlatt". The visthar poorbak varnan {detailed in-depth coverage} can be read in "DassamGuru Granth Sahib steek 3rd bhaag {volume}.

Gharay=gall vich=in the throat. Srik=mala=rosary. Bejantimala=Bans da moti=pearl of bans{bamboo},Sipp da moti=pearl of oyster, the moti=pearl from the head of a sow, the pearl from the pahadh=mountain/hill , the moti=pearl from the head of an haathi=elephant , the pearl from the head of a turtle. The mala=rosary containing these six pearls are collectively known as Bejanti Mala.

Doojah {second}-The mala=rosary made from the six types of flowers found in the Bann=jungle/forest which dangles below the knees. Paadh ko vaach=the water of the feet, when Vishnu adopted the avtar {incarnation} of Bavan it is then that Brahma washed their {Vishnu's} feet and placed the water in kamundal {water container} which famously came to be known as Gangha and later was sent to mat lok {planet earth} upon the request of Bhagirthi which Shiv Ji carried on their head.

Triprar=Shiv Ji. Upon the slaying of tripur daent {demon} Shiv Ji became known as Triprar. Visthar sehat parsangh {in-depth account} can be seen in Dassam Granth steek bhaag {volume} 2nd under Rudhr Avtar.

=Iss tara dah=like this. . Urr Bhitar=in the hirdah=heart. Bhav bheet=the darr=scare/horror of janam maran=births/deaths.

Arth {meaning}-The one who sleeps on Sheshnag Sehja {bed} and the komal {fragile} charan {feet} Lashmi is massaging. The one who has sunkh {sea shell like instrument}, chakkar gadha {spherical long handled weapon} in the hand. The chinh {sign/symbol} of Prighu's charan {foot} , the garland of Bejanti mala adorns the neck , and wears the Bauhatta on the arms. The pavittar {pure} charnah da pani {water from the washed feet} adorns the head of Shiv Ji perpetually. Whosoever places the dhian {focus} then they have lost the fear of births and deaths in their heart.

{Granth karta Ji , Krit Manglacharan} [Opening eulogy].

Klf Appeals Commonwealth Countries Not To Send Teams For Delhi Cwg'S

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:31:44 +0000

CHANDIGARH: The Khalistan Liberation Force (KLF), a banned Sikh militant body on Friday appealed to Common Wealth countries not to send their teams for Commonwealth Games being held in Delhi and stated that Indian security agencies might engineer the attack to tarnish the image of Sikhs.
In a press statement e-mailed to all media organisations signed by the name Harpreet Singh said,"Our humble request to all commonwealth countries to refrain from sending their athletes to India for the upcoming Commonwealth games.

This is because there are very high chances that the Indian agencies are trying to blemish the good name of Sikhs by organising attacks during the game".

The KLF also warned the Indian agencies against developing differences between Sikhs and Kashmiris. The statement said, "Recently Indian Agencies are developing conspiracy to blemish the good relationship between 'Kashmiris' and Sikhs in Kashmir. This should stop immediately or else the Indian Government will face the terrific upcoming".

The KLF said that Indian Agencies should stop accusation that that Sikh freedom fighters are putting up bases in Malasiya and other countries. "They should know that every Sikh around the world is a freedom fighter. Our appeal to all Sikhs to get all set for sacrificing themselves to achieve our struggle to free our homeland 'Khalistan".

The KLF also warned the Sikhs against going after dera culture. It said that deras like, Ashutosh, Bhaniara, Ram Rahim, Radha Swami are creation of Indian agencies to deteriorate Sikhi from within. "These murcky strategies should be stoipped immediately, otherwise the Indian Government knows the consequences. The KLF has advised Sikhs not to follow the deras for the sake of their lives.

The KLF said that Sikhs sahll be ready to defend if anybody attacks their faith.
http://www.punjabnewsline.com/content/klf-appeals-commonwealth-countries-not-send-teams-delhi-cwgs/23592

Singhnee Who Adorns Dastaar Is True Sikh.

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 17:13:09 +0000

Muslim women tie patkas and so do jamaican ladies. Ive also seen african women with them on aswell. I was shocked when i saw this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt_J0AQN1lo&feature=related
Anyone can wear a patka. Singhnee is she who adorns dastaar

Coventry Rensbhai Keertan Sat 4Th Sept 2010

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:41:22 +0000

VaahegurooJeeKaaKhaalsaa, VaahegurooJeeKeeFaateh!!

With Guru Nanak Dev Jee's Grace, Rensbhai Keertan has Been organised for Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jees Pehla Prakash.

Sep 4th 2010
7:00 PM to 5:00 AM
Coventry
Singh Sabha Gurdwara, 47- 49 Cross Road, Coventry

Please attend and bring others to celebrate this auspicious occasion.

VaahegurooJeeKaaKhaalsaa, VaahegurooJeeKeeFaateh!!

Hare Krishna Temple 'Cleared Just Before Explosion'

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:53:33 +0000

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-11182497

Explosion at Hare Krishna temple in Leicester

Worshippers are believed to be trapped after an explosion and fire at a Hare Krishna temple in Leicester.

A third of the terraced property on Thoresby Street has been destroyed and is too unstable for crews to enter.

Specialist rescue teams and equipment, including search dogs and thermal imaging cameras, are being used to establish if any casualties are inside.

A wide cordon is in place around the building, which is still on fire, according to eyewitnesses.

A spokeswoman for Leicestershire Fire Service confirmed they have had reports people were inside the temple at the time of the blast.

Love Marriage

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 15:14:39 +0000

Sadha sangat ji i am already fall in love and now came to know love is against sikhi.
Circumtances hi kuch eda da c i was feeling alone hve no good frnd to whom i can share my problems.

Then one day on net while chating i got a good gursikh frnd who always make me laugh and tell me about sikhi.
I controlled myself alot but as my mind and body was demanding very much for a life patner and as my parents had said me to wait for 2 years.

My mind choosed that gursikh as my patner and i hve proposed him too. i hven't meet him in real life.
He is from punjab and my parents are against punjab boys b'coz my sis had been married in punjab and she had been beaten by his husband and there marriage is close to end.

What i do?
Inna time bitane da baad mobile vicha gala karne da baad shall i leave him due to all this.........but my sikhi don't even allow this b'coz i feel this is wrong ki i should leave him......manu yaha toha oda inna close ahana hi nahi chahida c par sabha ho gaya bass ho gaya.......hun i can't see myself married to another person b'coz this is not right.I don't cheat anyone by marrying anyone else..
I LOVE GURU JI ALOT AND I WANT TO BE GURU JI'S GOOD DAUGHTER but what i do in this circumtance??????i am really stuck????/ plz help??/

New Post From Ajmer Veer Ji

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:40:31 +0000

http://traitoroussikh.blogspot.com/

New Post From Ajmer Veer Ji

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 13:38:55 +0000

http://whygoldentempleonly.blogspot.com/

The Sikhroots Khalsa League !

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 10:40:30 +0000

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Sikhroots.com is inviting all footy loving Sikhs from all over the world to take part in our fantasy football league! You manage your own Fantasy team by selecting players from the Barclays Premier League! The league currently has 12 active members, and we would encourage you all to join today; since the league scoring started on Game-week 4, which is tomorrow! Its also completely free to play!

Details to join as well as our leagues code could be found on our website - http://www.sikhroots.com/component/content/article/8-featured/1349-khalsa-league

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Chouthi Bai Breastfeeds The Calf Three Or Four Times A Day.

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:34:34 +0000

Breastfeeding has become a thorny issue in the West, with some women declaring the act 'creepy' while others fervently believe 'breast is best'. But for Couthi Bai, a villager from Kilchu, India, the decision to breastfeed an orphaned calf after its mother died was a natural one. She tells her story.

Since the death of the calf's mother when it was only three days old, Chouthi Bai has breastfed the animal three or four times a day."After her mother died, I held her in my arms and breastfed her. I nurtured her by feeding her my milk. She was so young when the cow died. For me there is no difference between a calf and an infant," Bai, a resident of Kilchu village in India's desert state of Rajasthan, said on Saturday.

Bai's calf seems to have taken naturally to the breast-milk, which is supplemented with chapatis and water. "I feed her three or four times a day, the same amount an infant requires in a day. Sometimes we have to feed her chapatis, we give her water to drink and slowly she will grow on this diet," Bai said. The 46-day-old calf now follows her wherever she goes.

Hindus consider the cow a sacred animal. "The gods will be pleased if I raise her," Bai said.

Gang Killed Shopkeeper With His Own Wine Bottles, Court Told

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 05:13:27 +0000

Article Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/sep/02/shopkeeper-killed-wine-bottles-robbery

Article Date: Thursday 2 September 2010

Gang killed shopkeeper with his own wine bottles, court told
Gurmail Singh beaten by youths as he defended Huddersfield store against robbery, Bradford crown court hears

Gurmail Singh died after his convenience store in the Cowcliffe area of Huddersfield was robbed. Photograph: Epix/ Mark Readman

A shopkeeper was beaten to death with wine bottles from his own shelves as he tried to fend off a gang of thieves, a court heard today.

Gurmail Singh, who was 63, died as he defended the Huddersfield shop he had built up as a retirement business after working in a mill and a factory for 40 years.

The turban he always wore as a devout Sikh was ripped off and he was battered about the head by four youths in the attack, which happened in February, Adrian Waterman QC, prosecuting, told Bradford crown court.

"Gurmail Singh did not meekly hand over his property, his hard-earned money," he told the jury in his opening address.

"When he resisted the robbers, they used serious violence on him, grabbing the nearest weapon to hand – bottles of wine he sold in the shop.

"He was hit on the head. It was that which caused his death. This was a robbery gone wrong."

The alleged members of the gang, Umare Aslam, 20, Muawaz Khalid, also 20, 18-year-old Shoaib Khan, Nabeel Shafi, 18, and Rehman Afzal, 18, all from Huddersfield, deny murder.

The court heard that smokers outside the pub opposite the shop realised something was wrong when two of the youths, Afzal and Aslam, ran away.

Two of the smokers went over to the shop and found Khalid and Shafi grabbing cigarettes and bottles of spirits and searching for cash in the till.

One, David Singh, no relation to the victim, trapped the robbers inside by holding the door closed as they tried to smash their way out.

Two other members of the public, Christopher Stoney and Christopher Baker, tackled the pair when they eventually fled through the shop's back door, but both got away.

The jury heard that Stoney, who lives nearby, rugby-tackled Shafi, bringing him to the ground, but the defendant managed to escape. Baker lunged at Khalid, who stumbled and almost fell but also escaped.

Waterman told the court: "The scene inside the shop was a desperate one. The deceased was lying on the floor in the corner of the shop. The turban he always wore was off and his head was very badly injured and bleeding."

The jury heard that Singh had come to Yorkshire from India in 1963, raising a family while working first in a mill and then for a pipe-making firm.

He took early retirement five years ago and invested in the shop, in the town's Cowcliffe area, where he became a popular figure.

The court was told there had never been any trouble at the shop until an attempted robbery two days before the fatal raid. Two men were involved and Singh managed to force them away, suffering minor injuries.

Waterman said there was no known connection between the two incidents, but that the defendants "must have known" about the first attempt because of local publicity.

After Singh's death, there was a stream of tributes and an overflow attendance at an interfaith memorial service in Huddersfield.

The court heard that one of the accused, Khan, had not been in the shop because there was no room for him in the taxi that had taken the rest of the gang to the scene.

But Waterman said: "It is the crown's case that each of these defendants was, at the very least, involved in a joint enterprise. They were in it together and each was responsible, criminally, for his death."

The trial continues.

i do hope the sangat here is smart enough to do the maths. the biased BBC also reported this (link : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bradford-west-yorkshire-11165962 ). if the situation was reversed, ie (Guru Ji forbid) if 5 singhs killed, the headline would have been "5 Sikh youth murder retired shop worker".....

for more information on BBC bias towards Sikhs click here

anyways.. in the mean time, we should all continue our support and do aardas for bhai sahib's family.

Hey Guys I Have Question About Sikhi? Mind Answering It?

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:30:15 +0000

Hi guys i have a question. So i have come to known you cant date/marry non sikh people? is this true? and if it is why not? i mean shouldn't love come from within inside and does it really matter if the person you love is not sikh. I mean you can follow Sikhism with the person you love and maybe even try to teach them it. But yea shouldn't love come from inside?

Sorry guys i am just a 14 year old with my curiosity's ...

Please Answer Thanx

Meeting To Be Called To Discuss Action Against Who Created Nuisance At Richmond Hill Gurdwara Sahib

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:05:04 +0000

Quick Translation:

Amritsar, 2 September (Bohru): Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Sahib Gyani Gurbachan Singh Ji informed that appropriate discussions will be held by the 5 Singh Sahibaan regarding those who created scene in the presence of Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj at New York's Richmond Hill Gurdwara Sahib. Regarding the ongoing repair work of Darshani Deori doors of Sachkhand Sri Harmandir Sahib, he said that laboratory analysis of the wood and nails of the doors will be conducted, and that the doors are made of 'Tahli' wood and zinc, iron, copper and aluminium has been used as material for the nails. He said the same technique used to make the original doors will be employed during the repair work. He said this repair work was discussed at the meeting that took place today.

Being An Amritdhari

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 02:30:16 +0000

hello,

In my family my dad is the only man who is an amritdhari. Before that, his father was very fond to sikhism. He was so fond that he never cared about his family. Unfortunately, the history is repeating. He became an amritdhari last year. However, in my family my mom's side, my sister and I are completly different. We eat meat, we go out and do fun things get hair cuts. Everytime we go out to shop which is rarely cause my dad doesnt care bout social life, however he would completly cut us out and doesnt care what we buy or what we do. My mom is so upset that she cries every night. i mean mi mom doest talk to him for months and my dad doesnt do anything about. Like he is living in his own world. It is so bad that he barely knew what grade i was going into. He never cared about anything we did. Few days ago my dad and mi mom got in an argeument. MI mom tried to explain him about his attitude and how he completly cut us out like we dont mean anythin except for doin Path everyday n doin to work. u WONT BELIEVE WAT HE SAID HE TOLD US TO TEACH HIM HOW TO BE FUN N HOW TO BE FATHER. he has bin a father or bout 16 years. Since we were a little kids we never got many toys that normal kids would get or brag about the things we had. but he never say that. Now in grew up I see my mother cry because truely mi mom is the only 1 who cares trust me. He neva bought the FEWTHINGS WE WANT. And if mi little sister asks him why dont u buy us things than he would be like i pay for the house we live in and the bills. ALso on mi sister's nirthday we decided to go out and he got a call from works asking him to come over if he is available, you wont beleive he asked mi mom if he could go to work and cancel out the paln for mi sister's b-dayy. ever since than I hated him.

Anyways this situation is endless. If i wrote down the things it would like ten pages.

All i want to ask is amritdhari are pure of heart. they are as sweet as sugar can be. But than can u explain why mi dad isnt like them? he only cares bout himself and nothin else! But if I am rong PLEASE tell me cause i dont want too commit a sin. Cause people say not to say bad things to an amritdhari or mi sin will find me. Please truely answer mi question I cant see mi mom crying anymore or mi sister.

Jagroop Ali Is Muslim, But Kulwant Kaur Is Hindu?

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:18:04 +0000

http://publication.samachar.com/pub_article.php?id=10007084&nextids=10006499|10005952|10007084|10005954|10005953&nextIndex=3

Sarna, A Certified Congress Agent

Fri, 03 Sep 2010 00:06:39 +0000

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/Will-support-Amarinder-in-Assembly-polls--Sarna/676521

Will support Amarinder in Assembly polls: Sarna

Posted: Fri Sep 03 2010, 02:47 hrs Ludhiana:
Putting to rest all speculation,Delhi Sikh Gurdwara Management Committee (DSGMC) president Paramjit Singh Sarna said on Thursday he would support Captain Amarinder Singh in the Assembly polls �irrespective of the fact that he is from the Congress�.

Talking to The Indian Express, Sarna, who was in Ludhiana on Thursday, accused Shiromani Akali Dal patron Parkash Singh Badal of trying to rig SGPC polls due next year. �We have brought the matter to the notice of SGPC Elections Chairman Harphul Singh Brar many a times. Brar, who is a retired High Court judge, should provide justice,� he said.

Sarna added that he had already requested Home Minister P Chidambram to ensure that eligible voters for SGPC elections were given photo identity cards. �I hope the minister will fulfil our genuine demand. I wonder why SAD has objection to using photo identity cards for SGPC election,� he said.

Talking about preparations for the polls, Punjab DSGMC chief Pritpal Singh Baliawal said: �We have already started district-wise meetings with our workers. We will organise a big rally in November.�

Two New Forum Moderators

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:30:25 +0000

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

We have two new forum moderators who will help us to keep the positive flow of posts/replies on our message board. Singhstah & guptkuri joined our moderating team last week.

Waheguru ji ka khalsa
Waheguru ji ki fateh

Vegetarian Diet

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:07:07 +0000

hello

i have recently started eating a vegetarian diet. I dont understand why we arent allowed to eat eggs but can drink milk?? Both are from animals, life isnt killed in the production of either.

Somebody said that milk is different to eggs because it is essential for our diet (babies need milk to grow and develop) however, babies whom are lactose intolerant, therefore allergic to dairy products safely have soya milk as an alternative, which is derived from plants.

Eggs produced by chickens are non fertilised, and like milk production are a natural process for the animal. If we choose not to eat becuase of the living conditions and use of hormones on these animals, then shouldnt we also avoid cow milk. Why arent we all drinking soya milk rather than cow milk, is it not the lesser of two evils?

this is not a meat debate. and i am genuinely wanting advice so that i can answer these questions in my mind.

thankyou

i am still a learner

Young Bride Burned Herself To Death

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 22:03:37 +0000

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1308371/Indian-bride-burns-death-escape-shame-failing-arranged-marriage.html

The First Anglo Sikh War

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:30:55 +0000

Dear all,

You're all warmly invited to the launch of the new book, the First Anglo Sikh War on 7th September at the Royal Geographic Society, 1 Kensington Gore, London, SW7 2AR. Program starts at 7pm and is open to all.

For more information please click here

Leap Of Faith

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:37:18 +0000

The Leap of Faith

At age 2

Growing up I have almost drowned many times but it was the first time when I was two years old, that I would have drowned for good reason. The almost drowning in so memorable for me is not because of the young age but the faith that led me to jump in the water. I am told by my parents that no one was home that day but my sick aunt, my cousins (3 and 4) and I. We were loud as all little kids are and were sent out by my aunt to wash the dishes from that morning by the pool side. The dishes were divided by family; each one of us had to wash our family�s dishes and since I had the smallest family I had my grandparent�s dishes, too. Doing the dishes that day by the pool side taught me many lessons that I won�t realize till many years after the incident. Those lessons were of honor, of not giving up and of having faith.

I was honored to be given the dishes to do alongside my cousins, even though I was the youngest. I did not complain once but ran to do the task on hand. I was just so honored to be allowed to do the dishes with my cousins that I didn�t even see I had been given way more dishes. Looking back at that fact today, I think of the injustice done to me but I don�t always think of why it didn�t seem like an injustice at the time. I see a small child being asked to do work she wasn�t capable of but I often fail to see the honor the child felt to do something for her family. I don�t see the honor she felt of being able to stand proud with her cousins and say she did the dishes. That forces me to think today of why that child could take on a task bigger than her and I am unable to the same. Why do I feel too small to do anything for my family, the Sikh Panth?

Back at the pool side I imagine myself looking at my tiny hands as I watch my cousin�s finish and leave to go play again. I could have run off to play with them and left my dishes where they were but the honor I felt didn�t let me give up. As my cousin�s played, I worked faster to finish my job. At that age when something gets stuck in your brain, it is stuck for a good while. There was no way I would leave without finishing my job. Looking back at that today, I feel a bit foolish and very proud for not giving up. But at same time I wonder if I could do the same today. There are million distractions that keep us from doing the right thing in the first place and if we do start the task a million more to throw us off task. Without that childlike innocence, focus and determination, how can we accomplish anything in today�s day and age? Every time I think of doing something for the Sikh Panth, I see myself to small and held back by a million things, why?

I can�t accomplish the same as the child Sanmukh because I lack her faith. It was her faith that nothing would happen to her that she jumped in the water to get the final dish that had slipped into the water. When my aunt rescued me from the water, she asked a simple question, �why?� I am told I frowned at her and said, �Kamali, The water was too slippery and I couldn�t grab it to pull myself up.� My parents never let me forget this story because they find it very amusing that the water was too slippery. But to me more than amusing it is intriguing that I had faith I would find my way out of the pool and finish my job. Today I know Waheguru Ji exists and is there for me but still I shy away from taking leap of faith, what if he doesn�t save me? How can someone small held back by a million things do something for the Sikh Panth without faith?

I look back at myself and wonder where did the honor, the will power and the faith go? I pray to Waheguru Ji to give me back my innocence and the mind I had at age of two, so I could once again be capable of doing something for the honor of family. This time something for my bigger family, the Khalsa Panth.

What You Get If You Don'T Know Shastar Vidiya

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:52:52 +0000

learn shastar vidiya or this could happen to you one day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLoZav4RsUE&feature=related

Vairag Shatak Pt Two {English}

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:15:35 +0000

Dohra

�Durhd Badhandurjan Dalan Madan Kadan Sivnand.

Ek Radan Sukh sadhan Ke Paadh Padham Pratay Bandh.�

The two toothed haathi {elephant} has two types of dhand {teeth}. One type are the ones for chewing food and the other are the outwardly ones. That is why the haathi {elephant} is called Durhd.

Badan = facial features {face, nose, ears , etc.} Madan Kadan=the slayer of kamdev {like cupid} , i.e. Shiv Ji.

There is katha in the Puranas {ancient Sanskrit text} that when Satti went to the home of her father Dakhya , upon seeing the niradhari {disrespect} shown to her patti {husband} she burnt to death in the havan kundh {ritual fire} and following reincarnation she was born to Himalya. She had the ishah {desire} to wed Shiv Ji , and as such engaged in tapp {ritual endurance}. At that same time Tarak daenht {demon} was tormenting the Devtas {deities}, and he could only be defeated by the son of Shiv Ji. After the death of Satti , Shiv Ji was in a state of akhand smadhi {perpetual meditation} for many years. It is then that under the prernah {influence} of the Devteh {deity} that kamdev shot Shiv Ji with his Uchattan teer {cupid�s arrow etc.}, a result of which his Samadhi {meditation} was broken. Now Shiv Ji did not have the company of a female and as such felt terribly tormented by kaam ishah {lustful desire}. Under that particular torment Shiv Ji filled with krodh {anger} and opened their third eye which was as a result of tammo gunn pardhan {full of desires etc.} He took one look at kamdev {cupid/lust} and burnt him to a cinder with his krodh agni {raging fire of anger}. That is why Shiv Ji are known as madan kadan and kaam arr {destroyer of kaam}.

Shiv nand= shiv Ji�s son Ganesh.

Although Ganesh was produced from the tann de mael {sweat of body} of Parbhati that is why he is sometimes referred to as Riri puttar {son} but it is always the case that the son takes the father�s name. That is why Ganesh is called Shiv Ji�s puttar {son}.

Ek radan= one toothed.

Despite the fact that two teeth can be seen on the cherah {face} of an haathi {elephant} , but the head of the haathi {elephant} that shiv Ji cut and joined with Ganesh�s body had one tooth broken and that is why Ganesh is only adorned with one tooth.

Sadhan=ghar=house. Paadh=paar=feet. Padram=kamal phull=lotus flower. Bandh=namaskar=greeting/salutation.

Arth {meaning} . My namaskar {greetings/salutations} to the elephant faced , slayer of bureh pursh {evil men} , and the destroyer of kamdev {lust}. My namaskar to the komal parr {lotus flower like feet} Ganesh. {1}

Prashan {questions} . When all other elephants have two teeth then why does Ganesh only have one? Secondly when Shiv Ji cut the head of the baby elephant and joined it onto the body of Parbhati�s child and thus brought him back to life , then why is he not referred to as suarthi {selfish} and ghul ghatti {lineage destroyer}?

Uttar {answers} . In the jungle there was a herd of elephants , in the same jungle was a pani di cheel {water stream} from which the elephants drank water. The elephants had to go around a large pahadh {hill/mountain} in order to reach the stream, a result of which they had to spend extra time and energy getting there. If the pahad {hill/mountain} was not there then the talouy {pool} was within easy reach {one or two furlongs}. The distance covered owing to the obstruction, made it about three miles.

One day a karabh {a baby elephant whose teeth have just barely started showing} said to its mother �Mata! {mother} if you give me hukum {command} I can knock this mountain down by colliding with it , so that we won�t have to cover so much distance�? The hathni {mother elephant} said �puttar! {son} this is a pahadh {mountain} , not a bori {sack} of rooh {wool} that will move with your collision. Let alone you even the mightiest of elephants failed to move this.� This besamajh {innocent} bachah {child} did not heed its mother�s advise of staying away and instead went and collided with the mountain , a result of which his tooth broke. After becoming dukhi {hurt} he went to see his mother who scolded him even further. She turned her back towards him and said �you are very be-samajh {innocent} and a murakh {fool}, I forbade you to do that. Now you have seen the results of your action.� She went onto say �I do not want to love such a disobedient child, in fact others who see you will realise that crossing the agya {permission} of parents/elders can only lead to dukh {pain} and that is why other children will learn not to go against parents/elders.�

Just at this point when the dukhi {pained} one toothed elephant calf was feeling rebuked, Shiv Ji arrived there in search of a head. Shiv Ji considered that this elephant calf will surely die in an hour or two. Until death he will endure pain but if he were to be killed immediately then he would be freed from the suffering. Secondly at this moment in time his mother has shown no remorse at his condition and as such has lost pyar {love} for him, as a result of which her atma {soul} will not endure kalesh {torment} which means that a lack of kalesh {torment} will not give rise to paap {sin} being committed. Thirdly he is a bacha {child} and Parbhati is also with bacha {child}, the mel {joining} of the sir {head} and the dhadh {torso} is teekh {okay} with kudrati {nature} tareeka {technique}. Whilst pondering on this Shiv Ji removed the head of Karbh {elephant calf} and joined it with the body of Parbhati�s child and thus brought it back to life and by further blessing Parbhati with many various varr {boons} he managed to pacify her. So that is why Ganesh had just one tooth.

Secondly when the calf was going to die in an hour or two anyway, then the slayer does not receive paap {sin} for the slaying and that is why Shiv Ji cannot be called a kul ghati {sinful slayer}.

TO BE CONTINUED WAHEGURU JI WILLING.............

Urgent Need Akaal Takht Hukamnama Paper

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 14:00:53 +0000

WJKK WJKF

VERY VERY URGENT, CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE PAPER OF AKAAL TAKHT HUKAMNAMA, WHERE IT SAYS, THAT CUTTING YOUR KESH, EYE BROWS ETC. IS NOT ALLOWED IN SIKHI, AND IT IS AGAINST SIKHI PRINICPLES, OF SIKHI!!!

PLEASE WE URGENTLY NEED IT ASAP!!!

WJKK WJKF

Help?

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 04:42:53 +0000

I have a friend who once cried to me asking me what happened to her because she used to wake up at around 3 a.m. everyday then did her nitnem with her dad also did Sukhmani Sahib. But now all of a sudden, she has lost her routine. She said that she wakes up almost every morning but doesn't have the udham to get out of bed. She has lost her nitnem. She tells herself that she'll do it the next day but it never happens and it goes on like this everyday. She also use to wear dastaar but now she gave up on that too. I had no answer to that. And she asked me any tips to reduce sleep.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Discussion-- Rozanaspokesman'S Attack On Sggs

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:29:55 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCcvIebgkwQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qle9M9ht-k&feature=related

Where Did They All Go? Jaswant Singh Khalra Memorial Weekend

Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:37:14 +0000

With Honor of Hosting Bibi Paramjit Kaur Khalra,

The Sikh Activist Network in association with The World Sikh Organization will be holding a 2 Day event to uncover and remember the story of Jaswant Singh Khalra and the disappearance/murders of thousands of Sikhs in Punjab.

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SCHEDULE

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DAY 1
September 11th, 1-6pm
Sheriden College (Room H131)
Limited to 100 spots, register asap, FREE EVENT
To Register Email: info@sikhactivist.net

The first day will be a youth event, with free admission. On this day, attendees will have the honor to meet with Jaswant Singh Khalra's wife and engage in a series of workshops including:

Intimate discussion with Bibi Khalra
Joining and working on SAN's first ever Graffiti Mural project
Viewing of a Documentary Film on Torture in Punjab
Discussing current human rights abuses in Punjab
Meeting with those who witnessed torture by the Punjab Police

DAY 2
September 12th, 5-9pm
Dixie Gurughar, Hall #5

All are welcome

On the following day, The Sikh Activist Network, The World Sikh Organization, OntarioSikhs, SikhVibes and various other youth organizations will hold a Memorial Keertan in Memory of Jaswant Singh Khalra.

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What's the Story of Jaswant Singh Khalra?

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In the late 1990′s Amnesty International named Jaswant Singh Khalra one of their Human Rights Defenders to recognize the 50th Anniversary of the United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. The acheivement, however was bitter-sweet.

The achievement highlighted Jaswant Singh Khalra's unveiling of evidence regardingthe thousands of illegal cremations/murders conducted by the Punjab Police in their cover-up to systematically target, torture and murder Punjabi Sikh Youth. In only 1 of 17 districts in Punjab, Jaswant Singh Khalra unravelled the Punjab Polices murder of approximately 3000 youth.

After the Indian Supreme Court rejected Jaswant Singh Khalra's effort to bring his evidence to court, stating that since the murders did not concern him directly he had no right to present them, he traveled the world to bring international attention to the issue. In June 1995, he spoke on Canadian Parliament and in September 1995, after receiving threats from the Punjab police upon his return to Punjab, Jaswant Singh Khalra was abducted. It witness testimony it was later revealed that Jaswant Singh Khalra had been abducted by 4 Punjab Police officers on September 6th, kept in illegal custody and tortured until October 24th and murdered the same evening by the police, after being cut into pieces and thrown into the river Sutlej. Five police officers were eventually sentenced to life in prison for his abduction and murder, but the chief architects of systematic killings, including former Punjab Police Chief KP Gill, remain free.

Even after receiving threats stating that if he did not stop his work, that he too would become an unidentified body from the Punjab Police, Jaswant Singh Khalra remained dedicated. On the 15 year Anniversary of his Disappearance and Murder, we salute his great soul.

Kirpan Off For The Night?

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:45:42 +0000

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa
Waheguru ji ki Fateh

Please pretend you don't know me as I am asking such as stupid quesiton, but no one ever explained this to me in the onslaught of information that was presented, and I am too embarrassed to be asking this in person. But, you wear your kara to bed, you wear your Kachcheras to bed, you wear a patka to bed to compensate for a heavy turban, they say you're supposed to have your kakars on your person at 'all times". Are you supposed to wear your kirpan draped over your shoulder as you slip into bed, or take it off and leave it on the dresser next to your bed where it is at least symbolically within close reach if it were needed to be called upon to defend someone? It makes sense either way to me, considering the ethics and the history of what the Khalsa endured historically, but as I have no idea I am coming here for the advice.

What is the truth, please?

Thank you so much!

Ross Street Gurudwara Eelction

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 23:38:18 +0000

http://www.theglobea...article1693073/

Struggle for Vancouver Sikh temple executive receives boost

Sikhs during a special prayer and talk at a temple in New Westminister June 3, 2010 for those who were killed at a Sikh temple in India in 1984.

John Lehmann/The Globe and Mail

Independent third-party administrator appointed to oversee election

Robert Matas

Vancouver — Globe and Mail Update Published on Wednesday, Sep. 01, 2010 6:06PM EDT Last updated on Wednesday, Sep. 01, 2010 6:09PM EDT

A new generation of Sikhs who have taken over leadership positions in temples in Surrey and New Westminster has received a significant boost in their campaign to replace the executive at the Ross Street Gurdwara, Vancouver's oldest Sikh temple.

A court order issued earlier this week invalidated thousands of temple memberships that were issued in anticipation of an election later this fall for a new executive. The court cancelled the election and ordered the appointment of an independent third-party administrator to oversee new membership registration and a subsequent election. The administrator is to be appointed by agreement of the two sides in the dispute.

Kesar Bhatti, senior vice-president of the Khalsa Diwan Society, which runs the temple, told Canadian Press that four recent members alleged that the membership process was flawed. He said the complainants were part of an effort by so-called fundamentalists to take over the temple.

Mr. Bhatti said a count of membership forms revealed that about five were unsigned and about 30 were duplicates, something that would have been picked up when the information was put into a computer.

Jatinder Singh, coordinator of Sikh Youth Vancouver, told The Globe and Mail the group went to court in an effort to have a more transparent process for issuing memberships in the run-up to the election.

Under the current executive, new membership forms were not available on Sunday, the busiest day at the temple. The membership forms were available at times that fewer people were at the temple, he said.

The court ruling will put in place a process that will ensure equal access to membership forms before the election, Mr. Singh said.

The Vancouver group is not promoting changes in religious practices at the temple, Mr. Singh also said. "We are not religiously distinct from the group that is there. There is no fundamental argument counter to their position on religious interpretations."

Sikh Youth Vancouver aims to modernize the institution and become more involved in local community events, he said. He was critical of the current temple management for providing weak e-mail access, no social networking and little community outreach programs.

With a report from The Canadian Press

Guru Granth Sahib 406Th Installation Anniversary In Pictures

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 20:36:48 +0000

SikhNugget presents 406th anniversary of the installation of the Guru Granth Sahib, the holy scripture of the Sikh religion in pictures.

See full story

The Colour Black And Sikhism

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:17:25 +0000

Was looking for something online and came across the link bellow. Halfway down the writer talks about the colour black :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/khalsa_unit/4314823881/

Now i know of a sant/mahapursh who is not keen on people wearing this colour.

I also know we as sikhs do not belive in the usuall bhaman crap and hocus pocus stuff.

So what are people views on this ??

Shabad Requests

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 19:11:50 +0000

WjkK
WjkF!

I'm looking for the shabad: "Ichha poorak Sarab Sukh data har, ja ke vas hai.."
by Bhai Ravinder Singh ji (Hazoori Ragi)

please upload it

Sant Smagam

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 18:43:05 +0000

VJKK VJKF

Pyaari sadh sangat jio, there is a sant smagam happening in wednesfield Guru Ghar this saturday.

its from 6 to 10ish.

Sant Hari singh Randhava will be attending also Sant Balbir Singh. I have just seen the poster, i will update this post when i get the full details as to who will also be there.
The guru ghars commitee isnt that computer friendly otherwise they would have posted here earlier. so we thought we should post it on here to let others know also.
the previous sant smagam in july was a very chardi kala event and im expectiong this to follow in the same way hope to see you there

VJKK VJKF

Boy + Girl

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:44:49 +0000

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

Basically, when I go to the Gurdwara for Smagams or other events, my mom don't really trust me to go alone!
So, I think that my mom is worried that she is going to see me with a boy. When I talk to her saying why do you tink that about me, then she go's that she don't.. when I know that she does!
Sometime, I also think that she thinks that because loads of boys look at me! The boys that look at me, I think that they want me to be their Girlfriend!.. But, sometimes I want to go up to them and say.. "Get a Life.. and Keep On Dreaming!"

I know it happens with the age thing.. but I have changed in my life only because of 1 person.. which was a boy!
I don't consider him as a boyfriend or a paaji.. because I don't see him in that 'Roop'! I just believe him as a best friend/ close friend.. NOTHING ELSE!

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So. people you tell me what should I do & tell my mom that I'm NOT going to a Smagam or other event just to see boys?!

Sorry, but I don't even like boys.. there just plain wierd! But, I consider every boy as a Brother or a Father!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa!! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

Akal Takhat Jathedar Seeks Help Of Us Lawmakers For Justice

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 17:31:44 +0000

http://www.punjabnewsline.com/content/akal-takht-jathedar-solicited-us-lawmakers-support-recognition-%E2%80%9Csikh-genocide%E2%80%9D/23498

Akal Takht Jathedar solicited US lawmaker's support for recognition of �Sikh Genocide

Punjab Newsline Network

Wednesday, 01 September 2010
NEW YORK: Akal Takht Jathedar Giani Gurbachan Singh while addressing the "Sikh Genocide" conference in New York declared that killing of Sikhs in 1984 was "Genocide" because it was a planned effort to eradicate Sikh religion. Jathedar who specially came to New York to address the conference organized by "Sikhs for Justice" solicited the support of US law makers to help the Sikhs in persuading the United States government to recognize the Sikh Genocide.

For the Sikh community, Jathedar's directed the Sikh community to support "Sikhs for Justice" in getting international recognition of "Genocide".

The "Sikh Genocide" conference was attended and addressed by New York Law Makers who presented citation to Akal Takht Jathedar recognizing his efforts for human rights issue.

The Touchstone

Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:57:47 +0000

Once a poor man was given a book, that although didn't seem very valuable and wasn't interesting to read, but it had the secret of the 'touchstone'. This was no ordinary stone...it had the power to turn any common metal into pure gold. The writing explained that it was lying among thousands and thousands of other pebbles that looked exactly like it. But the secret was this: The real stone would feel warm, while ordinary pebbles are cold.So the man sold his few belongings, bought some simple supplies, camped on the seashore, and began testing pebbles.

He knew that if he picked up ordinary pebbles and threw them down again because they were cold, he might pick up the same pebble hundreds of times. So, when he felt one that was cold, he threw it into the sea. He spent a whole day doing this but none of them was the touchstone. Yet he went on and on this way. Pick up a pebble. Cold - throw it into the sea. Pick up another. Throw it into the sea.

The days stretched into weeks and the weeks into months. One day, however, about mid afternoon, he picked up a pebble and it was warm. He threw it into the sea before he realized what he had done. He had formed such a strong habit of throwing each pebble into the sea that when the one he wanted came along, he still threw it away.

So it is with opportunity. Unless we are vigilant, it's easy to fail to recognize an opportunity when it is in hand and it's just as easy to throw it away. How many times have you ignored the presence of 'Waheguru' because you've wasted time thinking too much about worldly things? How many times have you failed to recognise the presence of 'Waheguru' in others because you've been blindfolded with ego or you paid too much attention to their bad qualities? How many times have you missed blessings of Waheguru because you've been too busy counting your sorrows?

ਬਿਲਾਵਲੁ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥
Bilāval mėhlā 5.
Bilaaval, Fifth Mehl.

ਐਸੇ ਕਾਹੇ ਭੂਲਿ ਪਰੇ ॥
Aise kāhe bẖūl pare.
Why do you wander in delusion like this?

ਕਰਹਿ ਕਰਾਵਹਿ ਮੂਕਰਿ ਪਾਵਹਿ ਪੇਖਤ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਦਾ ਸੰਗਿ ਹਰੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Karahi karāvėh mūkar pāvahi pekẖaṯ sunaṯ saḏā sang hare. ||1|| rahā▫o.
You act, and incite others to act, and then deny it. The Lord is always with you; He sees and hears everything. ||1||Pause||

ਕਾਚ ਬਿਹਾਝਨ ਕੰਚਨ ਛਾਡਨ ਬੈਰੀ ਸੰਗਿ ਹੇਤੁ ਸਾਜਨ ਤਿਆਗਿ ਖਰੇ ॥
Kācẖ bihājẖan kancẖan cẖẖādan bairī sang heṯ sājan ṯi▫āg kẖare.
You purchase glass, and discard gold; you are in love with your enemy, while you renounce your true friend.

ਹੋਵਨੁ ਕਉਰਾ ਅਨਹੋਵਨੁ ਮੀਠਾ ਬਿਖਿਆ ਮਹਿ ਲਪਟਾਇ ਜਰੇ ॥੧॥
Hovan ka▫urā anhovan mīṯẖā bikẖi▫ā mėh laptā▫e jare. ||1||
That which exists, seems bitter; that which does not exist, seems sweet to you. Engrossed in corruption, you are burning away. ||1||

ਅੰਧ ਕੂਪ ਮਹਿ ਪਰਿਓ ਪਰਾਨੀ ਭਰਮ ਗੁਬਾਰ ਮੋਹ ਬੰਧਿ ਪਰੇ ॥
Anḏẖ kūp mėh pari▫o parānī bẖaram gubār moh banḏẖ pare.
The mortal has fallen into the deep, dark pit, and is entangled in the darkness of doubt, and the bondage of emotional attachment.

ਕਹੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਹੋਤ ਦਇਆਰਾ ਗੁਰੁ ਭੇਟੈ ਕਾਢੈ ਬਾਹ ਫਰੇ ॥੨॥੧੦॥੯੬॥
Kaho Nānak parabẖ hoṯ ḏa▫i▫ārā gur bẖetai kādẖai bāh fare. ||2||10||96||
Says Nanak, when God becomes merciful, one meets with the Guru, who takes him by the arm, and lifts him out. ||2||10||96||