Bhangra And Sikhi

+Singh_is_King+ · February 7, 2009

WJKK, WJKF.

I need some guidance Sangat Ji ! Although, I have good bun fight on this forum once in a while, I just wanted to know from the Gursikhs on their view on bhangra. My sister showed me these 2 youtube videos today and I was left speechless:

QUESTION: Should Gursikhs perform the bhangra or other forms dance ?

February 7, 2009

wat is the point of bhangra? wat do u get from it?

when u dance to bhangra, listen to the types of songs u dance to. unless there shabads from guru granth sahib ji, i dont think they gonna be pro sikhi. but then again, i have never seen a person dancing to any shabads.

but the types of songs are like oh tu meri billo tey main teri billo. oh will u be my girlfreind and i love you. blah blah blah. assi jatt punjabi tey assi sharab bohat peene aan. we punjabi tey eh punjabi. its all a bunch of crap. this is where i think the whole punjabi pride stuff needs to get to be rid of. instead of saying we are punjabi and proud, i think we need to start saying we are sikh and proud. instead of having punjabi virsa, why not have sikhi virsa. then we would actually think twice before adding bhangra in our list of rehat maryada. our elders have done soo much for us and have laid down their lives for us. and it wasnt so we could go around doing bhangra and dancing to songs that are totally anti-gurmat.

so the answer to ur question is NO!

sorrry if i offended any of you bhangra captains out there, but this is just wat i feel.

singh_in_chardikala · February 7, 2009

aha exaclty shastr jii lol its all anti gurmat bt i see lot of gursikh doin dancin nd stuff ... it all depends how deep r u in sikhi..

according to guru maharaj its completely wrong as guru maharaj says.

NACHAN KUDAN MAN KA CHAO

NANAK JIN MAN BHAO TINA MAN BHAO

here u go wit video bhai amolak singh jis responce on bhangra lol hopefuly u undstnd punjabii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZGAAtP3vNM

This Shabad is by Guru Nanak Dev Ji in Raag Aasaa on Pannaa 465

mÚ 1 ]

ma 1 ||

First Mehla:

vwiein cyly ncin gur ]

vaaein chaelae nachan gur ||

The disciples play the music, and the gurus dance.

pYr hlwiein Pyrin@ isr ]

pair halaaein faeranih sir ||

They move their feet and roll their heads.

auif auif rwvw JwtY pwie ]

oudd oudd raavaa jhaattai paae ||

The dust flies and falls upon their hair.

vyKY loku hsY Gir jwie ]

vaekhai lok hasai ghar jaae ||

Beholding them, the people laugh, and then go home.

rotIAw kwrix pUrih qwl ]

rotteeaa kaaran poorehi thaal ||

They beat the drums for the sake of bread.

Awpu pCwVih DrqI nwil ]

aap pashhaarrehi dhharathee naal ||

They throw themselves upon the ground.

gwvin gopIAw gwvin kwn@ ]

gaavan gopeeaa gaavan kaanh ||

They sing of the milk-maids, they sing of the Krishnas.

gwvin sIqw rwjy rwm ]

gaavan seethaa raajae raam ||

They sing of Sitas, and Ramas and kings.

inrBau inrMkwru scu nwmu ]

nirabho nira(n)kaar sach naam ||

The Lord is fearless and formless; His Name is True.

jw kw kIAw sgl jhwnu ]

jaa kaa keeaa sagal jehaan ||

The entire universe is His Creation.

syvk syvih krim cVwau ]

saevak saevehi karam charraao ||

Those servants, whose destiny is awakened, serve the Lord.

iBMnI rYix ijn@w min cwau ]

bhi(n)nee rain jinhaa man chaao ||

The night of their lives is cool with dew; their minds are filled with love for the Lord.

isKI isiKAw gur vIcwir ]

sikhee sikhiaa gur veechaar ||

Contemplating the Guru, I have been taught these teachings;

ndrI krim lGwey pwir ]

nadharee karam laghaaeae paar ||

granting His Grace, He carries His servants across.

kolU crKw ckI cku ]

koloo charakhaa chakee chak ||

The oil-press, the spinning wheel, the grinding stones, the potter's wheel,

Ql vwroly bhuqu Anµqu ]

thhal vaarolae bahuth ana(n)th ||

the numerous, countless whirlwinds in the desert,

lwtU mwDwxIAw Angwh ]

laattoo maadhhaaneeaa anagaah ||

the spinning tops, the churning sticks, the threshers,

pMKI BaudIAw lYin n swh ]

pa(n)khee bhoudheeaa lain n saah ||

the breathless tumblings of the birds,

sUAY cwiV BvweIAih jMq ]

sooai chaarr bhavaaeeahi ja(n)th ||

and the men moving round and round on spindles

nwnk BauidAw gxq n AMq ]

naanak bhoudhiaa ganath n a(n)th ||

O Nanak, the tumblers are countless and endless.

bMDn bMiD Bvwey soie ]

ba(n)dhhan ba(n)dhh bhavaaeae soe ||

The Lord binds us in bondage - so do we spin around.

pieAY ikriq ncY sBu koie ]

paeiai kirath nachai sabh koe ||

According to their actions, so do all people dance.

nic nic hsih clih sy roie ]

nach nach hasehi chalehi sae roe ||

Those who dance and dance and laugh, shall weep on their ultimate departure.

auif n jwhI isD n hoih ]

oudd n jaahee sidhh n hohi ||

They do not fly to the heavens, nor do they become Siddhas.

ncxu kudxu mn kw cwau ]

nachan kudhan man kaa chaao ||

They dance and jump around on the urgings of their minds.

nwnk ijn@ min Bau iqn@w min Bwau ]2]

naanak jinh man bho thinhaa man bhaao ||2||

O Nanak, those whose minds are filled with the Fear of God, have the love of God in their minds as well. ||2||

soorma18 · February 7, 2009

Its a good form of exercise and surely theres nothing wrong if the lyrics are suitable(altho these kinda songs are rare nowadays lol). thts just my opinion,i dno tho :S

guptveer1469 · February 7, 2009

If it is done as an exercise, it is like any other dance-sport (breakdance, etc)

If it is done with any of the 5 vikaars (Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh and Ahankaar), its completely anti-Gurmat.

From a historical perspective, was any type of bhangra or giddha done during Guru Sahibaans time? (or any other type of dance popular with the common Punjabi folks then)

Bhul Chuk Maaf

WJKK WJKF

sherlsurj · February 8, 2009

its an expression of happiness and a laugh yeah it is pretty foolish but id say its not doing any harm reli. yeah sure i wud love not to dance but weddings wud be boring without dancing. all i can say is dnt go OTT, or dance to inapprop music