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The Pakistan Taliban beheaded three Sikhs and dumped their heads at a gurdwara in Peshawar, reports on Sunday said.

The Sikhs were picked up from a place called Badi in Peshawar on Sunday afternoon and then murdered. One of the dead men has been identified as Jaspal Singh.

Details about the murders are sketchy and it is not known whether the three men were residents of Peshawar or visitors. In 2009, the Taliban in Pakistan’s North West Frontier Province (NWFP) forced the minority Sikh population to pay it lakhs of rupees as religious tax.

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Khalsa Panth needs to confront Taliban!

they need to be thought a lesson.

Well may be the time is getting closer.

One day the Khalsa will succeed in getting rid of the Taliban.

The taliban has done enough bad deeds over the past years, but they have taken it a step too far, and that is to mess with Sikhs, it is one which they will regret, that's if they are still alive by then, and have not become extinct.

Akkaall hee akaaaalll.

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<br />Reminds me of the Mughal days...<br />
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Sadly, it appears a lot of Sikhs have lost their martial spirit. You see it everywhere, where has the Sant-Sipahi concept that Guru Hargobind started and Guru Gobind Singh Ji propogated disappeared to ? It is imperative for Sikhs to learn the arts of self defence, combat, warfare precisely for such situations...

Are you telling me that that this could have happened if these were Bhujangi level Nihangs that the Taliban attacked....not a chance...

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<br />Reminds me of the Mughal days...<br />
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Sadly, it appears a lot of Sikhs have lost their martial spirit. You see it everywhere, where has the Sant-Sipahi concept that Guru Hargobind started and Guru Gobind Singh Ji propogated disappeared to ? It is imperative for Sikhs to learn the arts of self defence, combat, warfare precisely for such situations...

Are you telling me that that this could have happened if these were Bhujangi level Nihangs that the Taliban attacked....not a chance...

Very sad.Sikhs have lost their martial spirit given by Guru Gobind singh ji.

Like of Sarna and Darshan ragi have done immense damage to sikh spirit by

conducting propaganda against our martial scriptures.

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You can say we've lost our martial spirit, but at least they didn't convert!

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<br />You can say we've lost our martial spirit, but at least they didn't convert!<br />
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True...but how many of them paid the Jeziya tax ? What happens next time they get attacked... ?? When you dont have the means, knowledge or spirt to defend yourself and uphold dharam it's never a good thing...

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as Avtar Singh Sanghera said on sikh chnl. gurdwaras in pakistan hve loadss of land sikhs should mve 2wrds da lahore ends and gt outta da taliban infesred east pakistan which da govt dnt even rule da only govt to eva rule was da admin of hari singh nalwa in tht area, if sum sikhs still wna sty there ,they gta be tyar bar tyar shasthardhari n nt business men ,bst thing is gt out mve to lahore ,betta sfe thn sorri

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Sikhs’ killings by militants confirm deep RAW-TTP links —RAW desires to shift global focus from Maoist rebels’ activities to Sikhs’ movement —Delhi plans to implicate ISI in Paunjab fiasco as RAW miserably fails in halting Maoists’ movement —RAW once again sends fake terror alerts to create panic, annoys Sikhs —Delhi was earlier embarrassed globally last month because of RAW’s fake intelligence reports —nearly dead Khalistan movement being glorified by RAW through media

Mod edit: just post the link rather than all the text.

http://dailymailnews.com/0210/23/FrontPage/FrontPage1.htm

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The Daily Mail’s investigations indicate that .....

That was quick. How did they investigate this so fast?

Don't trust Pakistani or Indian papers.

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RAW do mess arnd in pakistan ie: funding and so on bt da ground wrk is dne by these loonies- taliban ,even da pak govt dnt hve control,america needz2 carpet bomb the eastern region border wiv afghanistan ,is a nest of terror n nw wiv operation moshtarak by NATO n so on all of em r movin 2wrds peshawar n da border

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Who is avtar singh sanghera? What authority he has to advise sikhs in pakistan.

Is he same man who is Darshan ragi lover?

sikhs should map out their own strategy.

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Where is press release from sikh political parties suck as Dr. Aulakh of usa or Dal Khalsa (UK, India)? This is not an attack on these org but a simple genuine question ?They need to come forward to provide Aid to Pakistani Sikhs.

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What do press releases achieve? Everybody makes noise for a few days to get publicity for their groups then everything goes quiet again.

Same thing happpened when we lost 11 (!) saroops of Guru Sahib last year, same thing will happen with these Singhs.

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this is for S1ngh veer from the other post

You are right... Badala Ta Lai Sakde ne... When Taliban asked for Jaiza and burnt down Sikh shops and houses, did anyone take Badala.... Sikhs in Pakistan and especially those who do have arms need to take Badala... these days when taliban go around looting, killing they don't openly go they do it when it is safe.... In 80's when Singhs made a hit they didn't always do it openly and planned it.

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Where is press release from sikh political parties suck as Dr. Aulakh of usa or Dal Khalsa (UK, India)? This is not an attack on these org but a simple genuine question ?They need to come forward to provide Aid to Pakistani Sikhs.

.Gurmit aulakh is another one man organization has no following in USA.

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Reminds me of the Mughal days...

The ideology behind the state of Pakistan is based on their perceived notion that they are the inheritors of the Mughal legacy.

We need to show them what happens to Mughals at the hands of Sikhs...

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The comments here strike me as a bit strange and illinformed to say the least. The Pakistani people are being murdered by the taliban in their hundreds nearly every day through bomb blasts etc and when the taliban pushed into those tribal areas last year they killed many local tribesmen, including those tribesmen who saw it as their duty to stick up for their fellow tribesmen Sikhs, who as 'hamsayas' of the local tribes are officialy part of those tribes...and it is in those areas of Pakistan where the vast majority of Pakistani Sikhs live. Not, as some may think, in Pakistan Punjab, because many of those Sikhs are not ethnicaly Punjabi anyway.

On top of all that you've got the Pakistani army losing men by the thousands fighting the taliban. And here we are blaming the Pakistani people and Pakistani government for something their own enemies did. As the pakistani people bury their dead each die after being killed by the taliban I'm sure its heartwarming for them to know that across the border in India and half way around the world there's a bunch of Sikhs that think the victims of the taliban are in fact the taliban.

The first step in winning any battle is knowing who your enemy is. We're not gonna win this battle by falling for Indian politicians vote winning tricks.

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Who is avtar singh sanghera? What authority he has to advise sikhs in pakistan.

Is he same man who is Darshan ragi lover?

sikhs should map out their own strategy.

avtar singh sanghera is part of jatha thts been pakistan mre times thn any of us & has dne mre 2 help sikhs there thn us ,besides has links with pak govt. ragi is not in this issue hes been excommunicated so no point bringin him in 2 it tht issues gne

i agree with westlondonsingh

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Who is Taliban?

According to one Muslim leader it is a Jew conspiracy. There is a video posted on forum where he makes this claim.

Taliban is definitly not friend of Muslims.

What he said in video

"Sunni Tehreek has gathered today not to fight with anyone but to declare name of of enemy of Islam, who in the name of Islam damaged Islam. This group (Taliban) has been known by names of Mohtzilla, Khaarji , Deobandi, Tehreeke Mujahideen, sometimes Taliban and the present situation is such that the Masters of Akayat, Kharjiyat, Mohatzilla, Ismayali, Nujdiat and Taliban is same. The link that connects them is same. Sequence of events is same. Abdul Wahaab Nijdi (i think the guy who founded current Wahabbism in Saudi) in the land of Arabia destroyed the future and aspirations of Muslims. Mazarate Sahba, Mazarate Aali-bait, Mzarate Umma, Mazare Umme Rasool and Digar were too destroyed (by wa habi). And then the same Tehreek came to Hind (India) and ismail delvi, ahmad parelvi in the name of jihad used the name of sikhs misleading they are waging war against Sikhs but in reality waged war against muslims. The first muslim against whom ismail delvi waged war was yaar muhammad yagistani, is that the name of a sikh or a muslim? it is a name of a muslim. musalmaan went against muslims and with passage of time these groups changed their names and appearances and in present times of murders they are known by name of taliban. taliban and it's various groups are actually jew conspiracy against islam which has been going on forever. they work against islam and muslims wearing cloaks of muslims"

link to thread

http://www.sikhsanga...du-about-sikhs/

How does Wahabism relates to Jews? Does Saudi support Israel? Taliban supported Laden who is sworn enemy of Saudi govt. How does all this connect?

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The comments here strike me as a bit strange and illinformed to say the least. The Pakistani people are being murdered by the taliban in their hundreds nearly every day through bomb blasts etc and when the taliban pushed into those tribal areas last year they killed many local tribesmen, including those tribesmen who saw it as their duty to stick up for their fellow tribesmen Sikhs, who as 'hamsayas' of the local tribes are officialy part of those tribes...and it is in those areas of Pakistan where the vast majority of Pakistani Sikhs live. Not, as some may think, in Pakistan Punjab, because many of those Sikhs are not ethnicaly Punjabi anyway.

On top of all that you've got the Pakistani army losing men by the thousands fighting the taliban. And here we are blaming the Pakistani people and Pakistani government for something their own enemies did. As the pakistani people bury their dead each die after being killed by the taliban I'm sure its heartwarming for them to know that across the border in India and half way around the world there's a bunch of Sikhs that think the victims of the taliban are in fact the taliban.

The first step in winning any battle is knowing who your enemy is. We're not gonna win this battle by falling for Indian politicians vote winning tricks.

I think you must have misread the posts. The criticism was of the Taliban and not of Pakistan or Pakistanis in general. The fact is that when the Taliban took over these areas they were welcomed by the local people because they wanted Sharia law. Guess what, Sharia law also means subjecting non-Muslims to jizya and a host of other discriminatory practices such as wearing distinctive signs to denote that they are not Muslims. The Pakistan government also aided and abetted the Taliban and signed an agreement subjecting the non-Muslims of Swat to living under Sharia law. That backfired and they had to send the army in. It is not the fault of the Sikhs that the Taliban is killing Muslim civilians or attacking government troops and functionaries. The Sikhs did not aid the Taliban, they did not ask for Sharia law and yet they have suffered due to the fanaticism of the Taliban.

The Sikh channel did an excellent job in having the discussion last might. I was particularly impressed that they were able to get the sister of one of the Sikhs still being held by the Taliban on the show as well as have the Pakistan Gurdwaras committee chairman Sham Singh on the telephone. The panel also made very good contributions. Ravinder Singh of Khalsa Aid also phoned in. The facts that came out were that the situation can only get worst and Avtar Singh Sanghera's proposal was the best for the Sikhs of that area. The Gurdwaras in West Punjab have a lot of land attached to them and the Sikhs of NWFP should be thinking about their future. Some are still in a delapidated condition. What is needed around these Gurdwaras is a Sikh community that can ensure that the Gurdwaras are maintained and maryada restored. It is likely that the Taliban in Pakistan is not going to be defeated anytime soon and it only takes a few fanatics to kidnap Sikhs and cause death and destruction to the lives of the rest of the Sikhs in that area. These Sikhs could easily move to Nankana Sahib or Rori Sahib Gurdwaras. The worst thing they can do is stay in either their tribal areas or even in NWFP as they are now sitting ducks. According to the discussion the Sikhs had earlier pooled their resources and paid the ransom for another Sikh. This has led the Taliban to think of Sikhs as a way to get easy money.

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^ I'm not so sure the taliban were 'welcomed' into those tribal areas last year. From what I remember of my reading they forced their way in, to the annoyance of the local tribal elders who stood to lose their authority.

I also doubt that this is mostly about money, as most of the Pakistani Sikhs up in those mountains are as uneducated and dirt poor as the local population.

But you suggesting they should just move from those areas onto the plains of Punjab is nonsense. Its as silly as a person India suggesting you move from England into Switzerland given yesterdays news about the killing of an elderly Sikh shopkeeper in England. Having read interviews with those Sikhs themselves I've noticed that they don't consider themselves Punjabi. They live their lives according to 'pashtunwali' and consider themselves ethnic pathans.

My gut feeling is that the real reason the taliban are brutally targetting Sikhs in that area is because, by all accounts, many of the local Sikhs seem to be heavily involved in the hashish trade, which obviously does little to endear themselves to the taliban.....not to mention doing little to spread the good name of Sikhi.

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Whatever the reason, Their heads were dumped in a Gurdwara. Whats the meaning of this?! So This is an attack on Sikhism itself.

U.S and British Forces are closing in the remaining Taliban. The cowards have nowhere left to hide. They've abandonned their caves and are running/hiding for their lives as the allied forces seek out and Kill each honourless Taliban they come across.

This backward Taliban has menaced people for far too long. The British armed forces shouldnt be offering bribes to the Taliban chiefs to lay down their arms. Instead they should be assasinating them.

They have no Honour. I cannot wait to see the last of them uprooted and destroyed.

Meanwhile all sikhs in Pakistan should be ready for more attacks. It might be wise to seek refuge and head towards the temples. This recent attack might be a sign of more to come.

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