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Babaan are mentioned in gurbani, tried to check on sikhitothemax but could not think what translation would be of a babaan to search for.

If you read Mahabharat then they are mentioned many times. These are not machines of the future but vehicals that are the norm in the afterlife. Not exactly sure what the equivelent in english would be though.

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The Khalsa is here - read Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib section on Khalsa Mahima - Khalsa mera satgur pura - Khalsa Akal purakh ki fauj - Khalsa mero roop hai khaas

Kalki Avtar is used as a metaphor about how mighty a Khalsa can be. Those people who take it literal perhaps do not follow Guru Granth Sahib Ji and want to gain a following.

In Sri Dasam Granth Sahib it says all Avatars of Vishnu are fake because they loose the essence of Kla of Waheguru Akal Purakh and promote body worship.

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bhaji, Kalki avatar is part of the Dasam Granth Ji also.

If Kalki Avatar is a metaphore then why not all the chabis Avatar in Dasam Granth Ji?

If Kalki Avatar is a metaphor then are we to believe that the Khalsa will become corrupted and will be destroyed ?

No, Kalki Avatar is not a metaphore.

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Because if Kalki Avatar is a metaphore for the Khalsa then in the Sakhi Kalki Avatar in the end gets corrupted and is destroyed by Mehndi Avatar by turning into an insect and crawling into his ear, so if Kalki Avatar is a metephore for the Khalsa - which I don't believe it is - then it follows that the Khalsa will get corrupt and will be destroyed, which I don't believe either.

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Kalki avtar gets proud and declares himself as God in the end. Then akal purakh sends Meer Mehndi ( A Muslim) who defeats

and kills Kalki Avtar.

Meer mehndi also declares himself as God and he is also killed by God.

The above narration is only found in Dasam Granth sahib. Puranas do not have it. The emphasis

is on supremeness of akal purakh.

ਜਗ ਜੀਤਿਓ ਜਬ ਸਰਬ ॥ ਤਬ ਬਾਢਿਓ ਅਤਿ ਗਰਬ ॥ ਦਿਯ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਿਸਾਰ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤ ਕੀਨ ਬਿਚਾਰ ॥੫੮੩॥

जग जीतिओ जब सरब ॥ तब बाढिओ अति गरब ॥ दिय काल पुरख बिसार ॥ इह भांत कीन बिचार ॥५८३॥

When he conquered the whole world, his pride was extremely increased; he also forgot the unmanifested Brahmin and said this;583.

ਬਿਨ ਮੋਹਿ ਦੂਸ੍ਰ ਨ ਔਰ ॥ ਅਸ ਮਾਨਿਯੋ ਸਭ ਠਉਰ ॥ ਜਗੁ ਜੀਤ ਕੀਨ ਗੁਲਾਮ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਜਪਾਯੋ ਨਾਮ ॥੫੮੪॥

बिन मोहि दूस्र न और ॥ अस मानियो सभ ठउर ॥ जगु जीत कीन गुलाम ॥ आपन जपायो नाम ॥५८४॥

There is no second except me and the same is accepted at all the place; I have conquered the whole world and made it my slave and have caused everyone to repeat my name.584.

ਜਗ ਐਸ ਰੀਤ ਚਲਾਇ ॥ ਸਿਰ ਅਤ੍ਰ ਪਤ੍ਰ ਫਿਰਾਇ ॥ ਸਭ ਲੋਗ ਆਪਨ ਮਾਨ ॥ ਤਰ ਆਂਖ ਅਉਰ ਨ ਆਨ ॥੫੮੫॥

जग ऐस रीत चलाइ ॥ सिर अत्र पत्र फिराइ ॥ सभ लोग आपन मान ॥ तर आंख अउर न आन ॥५८५॥

I have given life again to the traditional and have swung the canopy over my head; all the people consider me as their own and none other comes to their sight.585.

ਨਹਿ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਜਪੰਤ ॥ ਨਹਿ ਦੇਵ ਜਾਪ ਭਣੰਤ ॥ ਤਬ ਕਾਲ ਦੇਵ ਰਿਸਾਇ ॥ ਇਕ ਅਉਰ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੫੮੬॥

नहि काल पुरख जपंत ॥ नहि देव जाप भणंत ॥ तब काल देव रिसाइ ॥ इक अउर पुरख बनाइ ॥५८६॥

No one the repeats the name of the Lord-God or the name of any other God goddess;" seeing this the Unamanifested Brahma created another purusha.586.

ਰੱਚਿ ਅਸ ਮਹਿਦੀ ਮੀਰ ॥ ਰਿਸਵੰਤ ਹਾਠ ਹਮੀਰ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਤਉਨ ਕੋ ਬਧੁ ਕੀਨ ॥ ਪੁਨ ਆਪ ਮੋ ਕਿਯ ਲੀਨ ॥੫੮੭॥

्रचि अस महिदी मीर ॥ रिसवंत हाठ हमीर ॥ तिह तउन को बधु कीन ॥ पुन आप मो किय लीन ॥५८७॥

Mehdi Mir was created, who was very angry and persistent one; he killed the Kalki incarnation within himself again.587.

ਜਗ ਜੀਤ ਆਪਨ ਕੀਨ ॥ ਸਭ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲ ਅਧੀਨ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤ ਪੂਰ ਸੁਧਾਰ ॥ ਭਏ ਚੌਬਿਸੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੫੮੮॥

जग जीत आपन कीन ॥ सभ अंत काल अधीन ॥ इह भांत पूर सुधार ॥ भए चौबिसे अवतार ॥५८८॥

Those who conquered, the made it there possession they are all under the control of KAL (death) in the end; in this way, with complete improvement the description of twenty-fourth incarnation is completed.588.

Kalki Avtar, Dasam Granth

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When Meer mehndi declares himself God, Akal purakh devises way to kill him also.

ਤਬ ਜਾਨ ਕਾਲ ਪ੍ਰਬੀਨ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਦੀਨ ॥ ਇਕ ਕੀਟ ਦੀਨ ਉਪਾਇ ॥ ਤਿਸ ਕਾਨ ਪੈਠੋ ਜਾਇ ॥੧੦॥

तब जान काल प्रबीन ॥ तिह मारिओ करि दीन ॥ इक कीट दीन उपाइ ॥ तिस कान पैठो जाइ ॥१०॥

Reflecting over the egoistic state of Mir Mehdi the Unmanifested Brahman thought of killing him; he created an insect, which entered the ear of Mir Mehdi.10.

ਧਸਿ ਕੀਟ ਕਾਨਨ ਬੀਚ ॥ ਤਿਸ ਜੀਤਯੋ ਜਿਮ ਨੀਚ ॥ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਂਤ ਦੇ ਦੁਖ ਤਾਹਿ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਵਾਹਿ ॥੧੧॥

धसि कीट कानन बीच ॥ तिस जीतयो जिम नीच ॥ बहु भांत दे दुख ताहि ॥ इह भांति मारिओ वाहि ॥११॥

Entering his ear, that insect conquered that base fellow, and giving him various types of suffering, killed him in this way.11.

ਇਤਿ ਮਹਿਦੀ ਮੀਰ ਬਧਹ ॥

इति महिदी मीर बधह ॥

End of killing of Mehdi Mir.

Kalki Avtar, Dasam Granth sahib

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Kalki avtar gets proud and declares himself as God in the end. Then akal purakh sends Meer Mehndi ( A Muslim) who defeats

and kills Kalki Avtar.

Meer mehndi also declares himself as God and he is also killed by God.

@GPS (or anyone else with gian on this subject) - You have a lot of knowledge about scriptures (in comparison to someone like myself), and I have a few questions if you don't mind:

1) Do you think such avatars will really be sent to this world, or as some people surmise these verses are actually mythological tales meant to inspire?

2) If Kalki Avatar will be corrupted and will consider himself God, then surely at this moment in time he must understand not to travel the incorrect path he will take? I mean, if we know he will become corrupted then why will he still undertake those mistakes when he could change his nature?

Surely a being sent by Akal Purakh must be of incontrovertible character, therefore if it is already prophesied that he shall elevate himself to Godly status (and this knowledge is widely known by people such as us), then wouldn't he have enough self-awareness not to forsake Waheguru in return for self glorification?

3) Why does Akal Purakh continue to send these glory seekers when he could just send someone who doesn't want personal glory? Actually, this might be a weird question as I don't suppose anyone can fathom Waheguru's wisdom and the decisions he takes, but I just thought I'd ask the question.

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