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#1 Mehtab Singh

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 05:47 PM

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 08:56 PM

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 03:29 AM

He is caught here on his word. He is the one who creates doubt about dasam bani. How he is trying
to dodge the question.

He has not understood this line at all. If one reads this part of bachitra natak, one concludes
that this line does not eulogise caste but says that caste is of no significance and God remmeberance is
supreme act.

This is what happens when such dummies who can chirp lfast are given an undue importance.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 05:41 AM

In sri Guru Granth sahib we read



ਮਰਦਾਸ ਭਲੇ ਕਉ ਦੀਆ ॥
अमरदास भले कउ दीआ ॥
Amarḏās bẖale ka▫o ḏī▫ā.
which He passed on to Guru Amar Daas, of the Bhalla dynasty.

ਤਿਨਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮਦਾਸੁ ਸੋਢੀ ਥਿਰੁ ਥਪ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ॥
तिनि स्री रामदासु सोढी थिरु थप्यउ ॥
Ŧin sarī Rāmḏās sodẖī thir thap▫ya▫o.
Then, He firmly established the Great Raam Daas of the Sodhi dynasty.

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Now dynasty of two Guru sahibans is mentioned.What is view of this fake dr udoke about this?

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 06:54 AM

In sri Guru Granth sahib we read



ਮਰਦਾਸ ਭਲੇ ਕਉ ਦੀਆ ॥
अमरदास भले कउ दीआ ॥
Amarḏās bẖale ka▫o ḏī▫ā.
which He passed on to Guru Amar Daas, of the Bhalla dynasty.

ਤਿਨਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮਦਾਸੁ ਸੋਢੀ ਥਿਰੁ ਥਪ੍ਯ੍ਯਉ ॥
तिनि स्री रामदासु सोढी थिरु थप्यउ ॥
Ŧin sarī Rāmḏās sodẖī thir thap▫ya▫o.
Then, He firmly established the Great Raam Daas of the Sodhi dynasty.

ang 1401

Now dynasty of two Guru sahibans is mentioned.What is view of this fake dr udoke about this?


Dasam Granth is only the first step. After they have discarded Dasam Granth they will next target will be Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. They will first start by doubting banis the Vaar of Satta and Balwand, then Batta de swaye, and Bhagat Banis and so one and so forth. Dr Udoke is like those Khalistani uncles in the west who have been influenced by the Kala Afghanis and have gone away from the Khalistan movement of Sant Bhindranwalay and the Shaheeds to the heretics side. Although Udoke is not as bad at the missionaries yet, as he does beleive in some Dasam Banis, but he is heading the wrong way. He needs to focus on his political theories instead of trying to act like a religious scholar by giving verdicts on religious matters.

I'll never understand why it is only in Sikhism where we have non religious, or political type people who have half or no knowledge of religion passing religious verdicts on religious matters. In any other religion it is always scholars who pass religious verdicts on religious matters. In a way it is our own fault that we give political people the respect of a religious scholar. We need to see people for what they are. Political people are political, not religious scholars.

ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯ nām karṯā purakẖ nirbẖa▫o nirvair akāl mūraṯ ajūnī saibẖaʼn gur parsāḏ

 

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:06 AM

Agree with the above post

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:21 AM


Dasam Granth is only the first step. After they have discarded Dasam Granth they will next target will be Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee. They will first start by doubting banis the Vaar of Satta and Balwand, then Batta de swaye, and Bhagat Banis and so one and so forth. Dr Udoke is like those Khalistani uncles in the west who have been influenced by the Kala Afghanis and have gone away from the Khalistan movement of Sant Bhindranwalay and the Shaheeds to the heretics side. Although Udoke is not as bad at the missionaries yet, as he does beleive in some Dasam Banis, but he is heading the wrong way. He needs to focus on his political theories instead of trying to act like a religious scholar by giving verdicts on religious matters.

I'll never understand why it is only in Sikhism where we have non religious, or political type people who have half or no knowledge of religion passing religious verdicts on religious matters. In any other religion it is always scholars who pass religious verdicts on religious matters. In a way it is our own fault that we give political people the respect of a religious scholar. We need to see people for what they are. Political people are political, not religious scholars.


Udoke says in this video that one should not comment on religious scripture like Dasam Granth sahib.Yet it is him who himself is doing that. He had no answer to the question. He was beating about bush.He is a maverick who will change his stand overnight just like he discarded his amrit after he put his foot on foreign soil first time.

Guru sahib's writings are word of God and no human should try to interpret those per his/her wisdom.

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 07:25 AM

he discarded his amrit after he put his foot on foreign soil first time.

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ੴ ਸਤਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਕਰਤਾ ਪੁਰਖੁ ਨਿਰਭਉ ਨਿਰਵੈਰੁ ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਤਿ ਅਜੂਨੀ ਸੈਭੰ ਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

Ik▫oaʼnkār saṯ nām karṯā purakẖ nirbẖa▫o nirvair akāl mūraṯ ajūnī saibẖaʼn gur parsāḏ

 

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:09 AM


Udoke says in this video that one should not comment on religious scripture like Dasam Granth sahib.Yet it is him who himself
is doing that. He had no answer to the question. He was beating about bush.He is a maverick who will change his stand overnight
just like he discarded his amrit after he put his foot on foreign soil first time.

Guru sahib's writings are word of God and no human should try to interpret those per his/her wisdom.


Yes thats also a valid point that he is going against what he said on this video.

Also, dont understand the discarded amrit part either??

Firstly the amrit was not 'his' as you have said. And 2ndly, I swear it can't be that easy to discard!!

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Posted 05 February 2012 - 08:59 AM

d veo


Yes thats also a valid point that he is going against what he said on this video.

Also, dont understand the discarded amrit part either??

Firstly the amrit was not 'his' as you have saidm. And 2ndly, I swear it can't be that easy to discard!!


Udoke was in the news along some other Gursikhs in early 2000s after kala afghana had written his books.
He wrote an article against Kala afghana and these gursikhs raised money and sent him abroad.

After setting his foot on foreign soil firs time he got dazzled.He considered his articles of khalsa faith as an
obstacle in becoming a modern sikh. So he removed his kirpan( sri sahib) and kachhehra.He was reprimanded
on return to india and those gursikhs disassociated themselves from udoke since then.




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