Warning To All Sikhs Do Not Waste Your Time With Shastar Vidya

[caveman]

Baba Ram Singh, former Jathedar of Akali Phoola Singh Burj under Budha Dal Jathedar Akali Baba Sahib Singh discusses Shastarvidiya with Nidar Singh Nihang. Audio recorded in September 1998.

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[savinderpalsingh]

Nidar Singh's Shastar vidya is an ang of the orignal form , its not complete.

yes there are masters alive to teach it in hazur sahib , but they wont teach any one

you have to join their dal and gain their trust slowly

[Guest]

Nidar Singh's Shastar vidya is an ang of the orignal form , its not complete.

yes there are masters alive to teach it in hazur sahib , but they wont teach any one

you have to join their dal and gain their trust slowly

Awesome.

[GtLoc]

Rajputs lost even with this knowledge because those weren't true rajputs, if caste is based on work and qualification and not birth some man who is a better doctor/that's where his heart is gets put out to fights muslims what happens?

I also read that qasm invaded because the muslims who converted along the malabar coast weren't allowed to do haaj by the hindu rulers so the king of syria? sent his son to teach a lesson.

Seeing the caste dynamics, proly lower caste converts and the higher caste are like no, you are our livestock u don't do any of that.

So w.e it's the same reason why when I break down a lot of the 'muslim rule of punjab' half of it is from afghanistan, and a lot of them are 20 year things which basically means nothing cuz that means they wrote they ruled for 20 years from their castle (harem ) until they got a knife in the neck.

This stuff seems legit though, just that you can't half-a** it.

[proactive]

I also read that qasm invaded because the muslims who converted along the malabar coast weren't allowed to do haaj by the hindu rulers so the king of syria? sent his son to teach a lesson.

This is a revision of history in order for the Muslims not to be seen as aggressors and invaders these kind of fantasy stories are invented. Why did Qasim invade Sindh which is a 1000 miles away from Malabar? Do you seriously think that low caste former Hindus would have the resources to undertake a Hajj?

[GtLoc]

This is a revision of history in order for the Muslims not to be seen as aggressors and invaders these kind of fantasy stories are invented. Why did Qasim invade Sindh which is a 1000 miles away from Malabar? Do you seriously think that low caste former Hindus would have the resources to undertake a Hajj?

True, the Niddar guy's a giddar fraud.

Idc, let some arab cave monkey come we'll chop him. Didn't say low caste just said new muslims, I just put my own thoughts onto it. Sindh is next to gujurat Idk it said arab traders brought it they convert, and blah blah blah. Was some pak site so proly revisionist too.

This guy's still funny to watch though, he puts on all this chain mail and does weird <banned word filter activated> with this eyes like a .223 won't split it. :lol2:

[taran0]

Nidar claims to have trained under baba mohinder Singh who trained under baba Guiana Singh

Baba Giana Singh taught many singhs not just baba mohinder Singh

He didn't pass on any Gadhi or Ustadgi or Thapi to anyone as the next master he taught many people many of whom are still alive today, baba mohinder Singh was just one student and wasn't given any preference over any other student

So why does Nidar claim to be the only living master of a dyeing art ?

Nidars claim that he is the ninth in line and the last final teacher of shastervidiya is a lie and a sham

This Is just him cleverly packaging and marketing his own mixed martial art, as "the shastervidiya"

Everyone mentions shastervidiya in interviews and history but its not a name of a specific art

It is general knowledge of weaponry and warfare of which Nidars is still incomplete eg horses, archery, battle formations and tactics in large scale war.

Nidar also in a video with pat tuhon malley says that these arts are virtually the same and nidar said nothing to the authority and ancient authenticity of his art being the ultimate.

Why is it that with his own people he comes with such akkar(arrogance) but to foreigners he shows humbleness - it's because he knows he gains legitimacy by kissing their <banned word filter activated>.

I think people prob wouldn't have too much of a problem with his martial arts I think it's his clever tactics and bold claims that make people think there's something not right with him.

Most people just thing the guys well dodgy and untrustworthy due to these silly claims on his website. his students also have a bad reputation. Any respected martial arts teacher teaches morality and sensibility to students, but they show such arrogance taking the mick out af gatka that is enjoyed by so many kids.

In the end many people have warned about nidar and to stay away, it is upto the individual. Personally I don't trust the guy and disagree with his views, I think his marketing is very clever and he has pretty much tried to copyright something that can't be defined in the modern sense of styles in martial arts.

Shaster vidiya - learn whatever martial art is going to work in the environment you are fighting in -

Ultimately those who will fight for truth and justice will fight for it - eg 1984 singhs against oppressive regime which is the same as what gurugobind Singh Ji did in uprooting the Mughal regime.

Those who like doing fancy demos will continue to do fancy demos, claim to be the best, feed their ego and collect like minded fools.

One thing I cannot understand is their lack of support for their own people suffering against discrimination and torture in India

You will never catch these warriors speaking out against attrocities comitted against our people, which is why no one trusts nidar.

[savinderpalsingh]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa !! Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh !!

Nidar betrays the memory of his Grandmaster Baba Giana Singh

http://www.shastervidiya.org/nidar-betrays-the-memory-of-his-grandmaster-baba-giana-singh/