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Darbar Sahib head Granthi Gyani Jaswinder Singh ji forgets to read Chaupai Sahib during Sodar Rehraas

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Sorry but that was funny.How can somebody forget to read bani?

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He's old...could be an early sign of Alzheimer's.

A head granthi of Darbar Sahib just doesn't forget something that should be second nature for him.

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forgive and forget, we need to stop with this extremist islamic <Edited> taliban attitude that some sikhs have adopted.

he is only human and if he has asked for forgiveness from SatGuru Ji, then the matter is closed. I am sure the Akaal Thakat Jathedhar will see sense.

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We've all been there. A few months back I sat down for evening nitnem and started with Kirtain Sohila! When I completed Sohila I was wondering why I'd finished my evening prayers so quickly, lol. Needless to say I got my head together and started from scratch.

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my granparents said it happened again today , they are saying that , the people from darbar sahib are not reading Chaupai sahib are not reading it any more?

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To be fairly honest, I don't believe it was an honest mistake.

One can't have had Amrit recently, before getting Head Granthi Singh's sewa. He's bound to have read Rehraas Saheb for years now! It's supposed to be second nature by now!!

Try and imagine what happened. Bhai Saheb says,"Kaho Naanak Ham neech karamma ll Saran pare ki rakhaho sarma ll". And then right after that...what did he start with? "Raamkali mahalla teeja"?

How is it possible?

The brain should simply start going BEEP BEEP! something's wrong! It doesn't sound right.

Well, if one can't do Rehraas Saheb without forgetting such a big part of it...one isn't deserving of the sewa of Head Granthi of Sachkhand Sri Harmandar Saheb.

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Giani Jaswinder Singh has been demoted from his sewa of Head Granthi of Sachkhand Sri Darbar Sahib

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This is what old age does to one.

Feel sorry for him...............Don't think Granthi's should be promoted - demoted like they are these days...Too much politics going on.

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My gut feeling says- it was honest mistake. With that being said, there is nothing wrong with some investigation on - literature bhai sahib reads, further vichar with bhai sahib ji to see where bhai sahib ji stands on certain things. We need mossad type surveillance on these things so it sets a precedence to avoid bhausaria mindset hijacking panth again.

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I also think he should not be sacked by this but be given paid vacation until investigation is done.

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GIANI JASWINDER SINGH JI AXED BY SGPC:

NOT A GOOD DECISION

SGPC removes Harmandar Sahib head granthi

Tribune News Service

Amritsar, November 17

The Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee (SGPC) executive on

Saturday removed Harmandar Sahib head granthi Jasvinder Singh from

the key post after he skipped "Chaupai Sahib" while performing the

'path' of 'Rehraas Sahib' at the sanctum sanctorum on Thursday evening.

The decision was reached at the SGPC executive committee meeting held

at Gurdwara Sri Degsar Sahib, Katana in Ludhiana. Giani Mal Singh has

been appointed acting head granthi whereas Giani Jagtar Singh

Amritsarwale will be the additional head granthi of the holy shrine.

Though Bhai Jasvinder Singh will continue to work as a granthi at

Harmandar Sahib, he has been barred from performing 'path' at the

time of its live telecast for next six months.

The SGPC executive also decided to open a nursing college at Sri

Anandpur Sahib and Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College at Bhagta Bhai

area in Bathinda. It has also decided to form a new department to

look after agricultural land of gurdwaras being run by the SGPC.

The executive also gave its nod to complete the paper work of 13.8

acres of land, which has been donated to the SGPC by Deedar Singh

Bains in the USA. The executive approved enhancement in its cancer

funds to help more people fight the dreaded disease. The executive

also decided to open a school for speech and hearing impaired

children in Ludhiana.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2012/20121118/punjab.htm#3

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There is nothing to do with the age. Baba Budha ji was the head granthi of darbar sahib too and he was much older than him. Not that you can compare other persons to baba Budha ji but still. That happens if you read bani for duties but not fo building up a life philosophy.

My persnaly belief is, currently is a time where ppl has to work on two different jobs to feed their family. Maybe he is also doing duties somewhere else. Different Gurdwara different Maryadas. Maybe he was doing path at a Gurdwara where they dun read chaupaisahib too.

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I agree with Prabhjot Singh that everyone makes mistake and bhai jaswinder singh probably forgot to put full attention to his duties because of being in rush etc.

However, looking at his past history since he took the sewa of head granthi, I would say that it was his third strike and from internal sources, I know bhai sahib is very proud of having very close relation with badal and thinks of himself as untouchable by sgpc and co. Having such close relation is probably the reason why bhai sahib still got a good job even after being demoted.

His first strike was when he did bhangra while holding sri sahib and wearing singh sahib dress and participated in other non-sikhi stuff (haldi,throwing money) at his bhanja's pre-wedding program. Second strike was when he was en route to attend some function locally, his car hit a person on scooter and he looked out and since he was in hurry/late so he left the scene. While coming after program, relatives of scooter person (who died) stopped his car with police beacon and protested.

Sangat called him twice to resign before chaupai sahib incident and he always reply in harsh tone acting that he is untoubable. I am not against bhai sahib but looking at three strikes in the past, I think it is good decision by SGPC to demote him; even though I don't think he is capable of doing granthi singh sewa but I respect the decision.

The violation he did recently was asking a PATIT to read Savaiyey during parkash at amrit wela just many days ago in Darbar Sahib. This is a gross violation of Gurmat Maryada.Vaheguroo hinself has removed him if you ask me. This rehraas mistake was meant to be! for him for misusing his head granthi power.

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I agree with Prabhjot Singh that everyone makes mistake and bhai jaswinder singh probably forgot to put full attention to his duties because of being in rush etc.

However, looking at his past history since he took the sewa of head granthi, I would say that it was his third strike and from internal sources, I know bhai sahib is very proud of having very close relation with badal and thinks of himself as untouchable by sgpc and co. Having such close relation is probably the reason why bhai sahib still got a good job even after being demoted.

His first strike was when he did bhangra while holding sri sahib and wearing singh sahib dress and participated in other non-sikhi stuff (haldi,throwing money) at his bhanja's pre-wedding program. Second strike was when he was en route to attend some function locally, his car hit a person on scooter and he looked out and since he was in hurry/late so he left the scene. While coming after program, relatives of scooter person (who died) stopped his car with police beacon and protested.

Sangat called him twice to resign before chaupai sahib incident and he always reply in harsh tone acting that he is untoubable. I am not against bhai sahib but looking at three strikes in the past, I think it is good decision by SGPC to demote him; even though I don't think he is capable of doing granthi singh sewa but I respect the decision.

Read this from the news:

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I don't think asking a patit (depends on your definition i don't define patit who is mona but rather who have broken amrit have gone patit) to do swaie is more severe violation than - shorten chaupi sahib - whether he did intentionally or unintentionally- needs to be seen in investigation. This is not a first time this happened.

Sant Gurbachan Singh Bhinderawale, narrates that:

When Kartar Singh Kalaswalia [a disciple of Babu Teja Singh] became a Granthi at Harimandir Sahib, he along with others made the decision to cut down verses of the Rahiras. The version that was created by the Panch Khalsa Bhasauria should only be read. Only 25 stanzas of the Chaupai Sahib should be read. They did this and began to recite the Anand Sahib, then Mundavani, and started to read the Ardas without the three closing compositions of the Rahiras. Due to this half the Rahiras is still recited at the Harimandir Sahib.

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I don't think asking a patit (depends on your definition i don't define patit who is mona but rather who have broken amrit have gone patit) to do swaie is more severe violation than - shorten chaupi sahib - whether he did intentionally or unintentionally- needs to be seen in investigation. This is not a first time this happened.

WOW!

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Don't get me wrong both are violations.. But i think shorten chaupi sahib is bigger violation than asking patit to do swaieye especially at darbar sahib or any takht sahib for that matter.

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I don't think asking a patit (depends on your definition i don't define patit who is mona but rather who have broken amrit have gone patit) to do swaie is more severe violation than - shorten chaupi sahib - whether he did intentionally or unintentionally- needs to be seen in investigation. This is not a first time this happened.

Can you ask Baba Gurbachan Singh then why did he Partake langgar/water from Bhai Sahib Randher Singh's house , when he himself visited him in his Ludhiana town house? Bevcause Bhai Sahib did the same Rehraas as darbar sahib too.

Taksal gursikhs are entitled to believe their interpretation but groups are a minority and will forever remain a minority.(Nanaksar, sampardaik, akj and so on) I choose to abide by the panth when in Doubt. :smile2:

and yes, why are you :swing: swinging :swing: on the word "Bhasauria" on a daily basis here? has he possessed :angry2: you?

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Can you ask Baba Gurbachan Singh then why did he Partake langgar/water from Bhai Sahib Randher Singh's house , when he himself visited him in his Ludhiana town house?

What does has to do with anything? I am sorry i don't see any link? I am not disputing immense pyaar between two gurmukhs.

and yes, why are you :swing: swinging :swing: on the word "Bhasauria" on a daily basis here? has he possessed :angry2: you?

Don't swing too much..i m sure you know its manmat. No he hasn't possessed me. Look seriously, i am just pointing out dangers of bhausaria mindset thats all..i m sure you feel the same way against niddar sanatan sikhi (which i also feel same way). Not sure why your sensors are too high? how come you don't say anything against teja singh bhausaria? or bhausaria mindset?

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What does has to do with anything? I am sorry i don't see any link? I am not disputing immense pyaar between two gurmukhs.

Its a difference not kurehit. In your head, you braind registers Taksals version of rehraas as "right". In other people mind the one done in Darbar Sahib is "right". Can your silly argurments change the reality?

I know of a Bhai Sahib's sangi who was present there, he told me of their close relationship. You need links because your a keyboard warrior.

A patit is someone who had not taken amrit and freely commit all/any of thr 4 bajjar kurehits that alone is enough to not allow one to do sewa in Darbar Sahib. and stop straying the topic...this thread is about Javinder Singh not reading Choupee Sahib

Don't swing too much..i m sure you know its manmat. No he hasn't possessed me. Look seriously, i am just pointing out dangers of bhausaria mindset thats all..i m sure you feel the same way against niddar sanatan sikhi (which i also feel same way).

How is Bhasauri a danger now?when his ideology heresy has died down with him.

No one alive I know follows Bhasauria word by word, if you know, can you show me?

Not sure why your sensors are too high?

I dont like you because you hate in a very toxic way.(and your darn smart on showing a nice face to the world)

how come you don't say anything against teja singh bhausaria? or bhausaria mindset?

His teachings died with him. Period. and he died a beymukh from Khalsa Panth.

Can you show me a group of people are ardently still follow all of his heretic ideologies??? There is NO ONE.Even missionaries dont admire him. You also fail to acknowledge the good work he did before he went cuckoo.(which shows ur inability to be 'balanced')

What is your agenda? Who is that you refer to when you invoke Bhasauria'ism? comes clean with your answers.

He didnt believe in Ragmala when he was panthic and also believed in Keshki as Kakkar, I have no doubt you are trying to paint AKJ(without being obvious to the public) are Bhasaurias. Being hatefull towards AKJ is just in your nature.

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Ok i will retire from this thread for the sake of unity within forum, don't want to go off-topic back and forth ...but do want to politely mentioned teja singh bhausaria may have died but person outlook/idea/idealogy never dies, you cannot kill the idea once idea is spread and diseased others, in this case sikhs from all walks of life were diseased/influenced by his idea..for eg-pseduo anti dasam heretics including those who are against jaap sahib/over zealous are living example of his..!!! please look at the thread http://www.sikhsanga...t-in-the-panth/ for more info..

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