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It is difficult to organise for sometime but if it happens our community would be under right leadership. Now our leaders not that perfect. For example instead of helping poor we are putting so called GOLD( which is DUST for Guru JI) on the walls for nothing. I don't think GURU ji taught us. In India 25% of people don't even get food under 2000 calories a day.(1.25$/day).

We sikhs have no free hospital for poor. why?

We shall be ashamed.

There are charitable hospitals in many areas of the Punjab. There are, I'm quite sure, charitable hospitals all over India. There are numerous Gurmukhs running these organisations. Which area are you 'needy' friends living, if you could provide details, we could direct them to the nearest institute.

The Government of India has set the threshold of labour wages to over 100 INR per day. If anybody is below the poverty line, then in Punjab, as well as the rest of India, the Government has to offer assistance.

If all else fails, the charitable hospitals, schools, and Langar is available freely.

What are you doing, on a personal level, to feed, educate, and hospitalise the needy?

Perhaps you could refrain from putting Gold on Harmandar Sahib, and use that money to help the needy.

If you are helping the needy, perhaps you could show some proof of this...

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I don't have any method but may be there could be a solution to this problem. Because when I took amrit the Panj Pyaare were not in sehaj. They were in a hurry and just rushed. i didn't expect that but I had to accept that because I thought it was GURU sahib's HUKAM.

May be we can do ardaas for this to GURU sahib and look out for a perfect saint to do duty of panj pyaare from the sangat.

If you are lacking sehaj in your life, this is not due to the Panj Pyare. Your lack of sehaj lies in the fact that you are not devoting enough attention to NAAM. The more Gurbani you read, listen to, the more sehaj will come about.

Don't blame your own shortcomings on Panj Pyare. If you feel that the Panj Pyare lacked Maryada, perhaps you could find another four Gursikhs of your caliber, and start doing the seva.

If you can't be bothered to do kaimee of NAAM, perhaps you could take Amrit on a daily basis, until you find the Panj Pyare that meet your criteria...

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It is difficult to organise for sometime but if it happens our community would be under right leadership. Now our leaders not that perfect. For example instead of helping poor we are putting so called GOLD( which is DUST for Guru JI) on the walls for nothing. I don't think GURU ji taught us. In India 25% of people don't even get food under 2000 calories a day.(1.25$/day).

We sikhs have no free hospital for poor. why?

We shall be ashamed.

I am not who u should be asking about hospitals for the poor. I don't know why. Like MokhamSingh paji says maybe somebody could tell u where they are. Nris do as much as they can to help poor people and I'm sure u will get the answers.

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I'm not sure how others do it but as I've seen, first a hukamnama is taken for each of the Singhs who is asked to be in the 5 pyares.

Daas had a chance but Maharaj said not yet and need to prepare myself even more. Maybe in the future

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I hear what you are saying about the gold on Gurdwaras. It is useless. But many will blindly support it because they have a thing for Nanaksari Baba who like to show off and live in luxury. These sad people use the sangat hard earned money to make themselves look glamorous. If they had even a ounce of respect for Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji they would not put up a special room for their dead long gone Baba and stop puting up photos of there long gone dead baba to be worshipped. These people scare the sangat into donating to feed there guts. They have not worked a day in their life. Bunch of low lifes sucking the poors blood. Be the change you want to be. Donate where money is needed and slap these babas in the face by not giving them a dime.

Punj pyare current system is running good.

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For all the posts same answer I am saying I am not asking a Body for GURU because SHABAD is Guru but what I am saying is to have a leader who can give transfer updesh of Guru granth sahib ji like BABA Deep Singh JI. SO that we are united and no fights between Maan's, SGPC, Dhadhariawale Baba ji, Damdami Taksal and other jathebandis. WHere are the heroes gone with tap and naam simran. Are they hiding or what? where are they?

And about charity hospital, My Friend with major accident with injury in brain is in comma. No Gurudwara gave help you are saying about charity hospitals haha its a joke singh ji. There is no such thing I collected some money from people and relatives. I think normal people give money. But Prabhandak committees don't even give a penny. He is still in comma nad everyday expenditure for hospital is about RS15,000. Earlier it was Rs 30,000. Now he has recovered. They have sold their home. Charitable hospitals ! You can check there he is in Pasricha hospital, Patient name- Sangharsh. I think those who say INDIA is now rich haven't gone to UP, Jharkhand, MP, Arunachal Pardesh.

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If you are lacking sehaj in your life, this is not due to the Panj Pyare. Your lack of sehaj lies in the fact that you are not devoting enough attention to NAAM. The more Gurbani you read, listen to, the more sehaj will come about.

Don't blame your own shortcomings on Panj Pyare. If you feel that the Panj Pyare lacked Maryada, perhaps you could find another four Gursikhs of your caliber, and start doing the seva.

If you can't be bothered to do kaimee of NAAM, perhaps you could take Amrit on a daily basis, until you find the Panj Pyare that meet your criteria...

Singh sahib why do you get angry?

I am just seeking good leaders not SGPC. I am not saying someone was bad , rather I am saying I am bad. I know that.

But if you have heard the the sight of saints is amrit, they speak amrit bani. They have aura. If you have ever met a saint, you will know he is a saint. You will just know it because of his TEJ. There has been such in the previous century.

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