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Does anyone know who ran and controlled Darbar Sahib during the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th Gurus Period?

What was the maryada then when Guru Sahib were still in their physical form?

When did Khalsa actually gained control over it? When was first parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee was done after the official gurgadhi ceremony in Nanded?

How come nothing much is know about Darbar Sahib during the period of these Guru Sahib?

Any books and historical sources will be highly appreciated.

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Does anyone know who ran and controlled Darbar Sahib during the 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th Gurus Period?

What was the maryada then when Guru Sahib were still in their physical form?

When did Khalsa actually gained control over it? When was first parkash of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee was done after the official gurgadhi ceremony in Nanded?

How come nothing much is know about Darbar Sahib during the period of these Guru Sahib?

Any books and historical sources will be highly appreciated.

As per SriGurpratapSuraj Granth, Sri Harmander Sahib was under the seva of the massands. Prakash of SGGS took place during 5th Patshai's time, and onwards.

When the massands were finally punished, the Khalsa took control of the seva....

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As per SriGurpratapSuraj Granth, Sri Harmander Sahib was under the seva of the massands. Prakash of SGGS took place during 5th Patshai's time, and onwards.

When the massands were finally punished, the Khalsa took control of the seva....

Can you quote or provide scans?

Are you sure parkash was continued? How about keertan? if the masands didnt consider the Guru Sahibans as Guru, then who did they accept as Guru?

Who were the masands? What was their interest?

If so how come 7th, 8th, 10th Guru Sahib never visited Sree Darbar Sahib?

There seems to be a void in history.

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Can you quote or provide scans?

Are you sure parkash was continued? How about keertan? if the masands didnt consider the Guru Sahibans as Guru, then who did they accept as Guru?

Who were the masands? What was their interest?

If so how come 7th, 8th, 10th Guru Sahib never visited Sree Darbar Sahib?

There seems to be a void in history.

The complete SiGurpratapSuraj Granth Steek can be read/downloaded from Gurmatveechar.com, it condisists of eleven volumes, totalling about ten thousand pages.

The Massands were appointed by 3rd Patshahi to do the parchar of Gurmat, Siks of the highest calibre were given this title. As time went by, the original Massands would've passed away, new ones would've been placed on the 'Manji'.

The Massands began to question Gurugaddhi at the time of 6th Patshahi, they felt that GuruSahib was abandoning the previous Maryada of non- violence, peace, and tolerance. Bhai Gurdas had to write 'Kabitt Swayeh' in order to show the Sangat that 6th Patshahi was still the Jyot of Guru Nanak. Baba Budha Ji also confirmed the necessity of battle and weapons; thus stopping confusion in the Sangat.

The Massands, ultimately, became a law unto themselves. They refused to let go of Granth Sahib, knowing full well that the golak would be lost, if Granth Sahib went elsewhere.

The Massands felt that they had the power to place Guru on 'Guru Gaddhi', rather than them following the Guru.

There came a time when these 'Massands' engaged in alcohol, meat, extortion, and rape. Mata Punjab Kaur pleaed with 10th Patshahi to reprimand the Massands. 10th Patshahi gave the Massands ample opportunity to mend their ways, but their ego was so high that they refused to accept 10th Patshahi's Guruship.

When all other means failed, 10th Patshahi sent Singhs to fetch the Massands to Anandpur Sahib; they were put to death with burning hot oil.

In Darbar itself, the Massands would've carried out Keertan katha etc., but to suit their personal agenda, not that of Gurmat. They used the Granth Sahib as a tool to attract Sangat, and to take control over the golak.

10th Patshahi did not visit Darbar Sahib since they were heavily engaged in battle at the time.

Waheguru...

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Darbar Sahib was taken over by Minas when the sixth Guru left Amritsar. They occupied it until 1696 when Meharvaan died and Har Ji took over. Corruption prevailed and Minas got divided in numerous groups. Sikhs approached Guru Gobind Singh Ji to intervene and restore the maryada. So Guru Sahib sent Bhai Mani Singh along with five Sikhs and a saroop of Guru Granth Sahib. Bhai Sahib restored the maryada back to what it used to be during the 5th Guru. Since then it has remained in the hands of the Sikhs except from 1734-1747. From 1849-1925, the British indirectly controlled its management and internal affairs. Now, the Indian government is doing the same as British.

Read Harmandar Da Sunehari Itihaas by Giani Kirpal Singh and Golden Temple: Past and Present by Madanjit Kaur.

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Just to add to the above:

Makhan Shah Lobhana, together with his 500 Jiwans, thrashed Dhir Mall and his assistants for opening fire on 9th Patshahi. Makhan Shah confiscated Granth Sahib from Dhir Mall, but later returned it under the hukum of 9th Patshahi.

When 10th Patshahi sent Singhs to rerquest the Granth Sahib from the massands, they refused point blank, and stated that if Guru was samrath then he should recite the Granth. Guru Ji recited the entire Granth Sahib at Sabo Ki Talwandi, the seva of writing was given to Bhai Mani Singh.

Waheguru.....

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