Simran And Kundli

[Guest Curious and lost]

Ok so am very low and upset due to illness. And doesn't seem to improve even thou I do simran. One of our relatives suggested I have my kundli looked at, which has made me give up more now. As says I can get worse. And although mentions three types , one related to my illness.

Do these kundlis actually mean anything. On one hand it was right, and then I'm thinking there could be millions with same d of birth and time as me, so they all can't have same as me or same future.

I always thought Kundlis have no place in Sikhi, but how can they give right info in regards to wats going on in ones life?

Can simran change a persons kundli? I heard Gods name can if they wish, so am holding onto this concept. But then think wats th point if my kundli says this. Although another said something different few years ago. Don't know y even bothered to have it done. Any hope had is gone now. And y do Some Sikhs have them done, like me I guess I wanted some gud news, but instead got bad news from it.

Are they true or not? Or nonsense?

[jkvlondon]

Ok so am very low and upset due to illness. And doesn't seem to improve even thou I do simran. One of our relatives suggested I have my kundli looked at, which has made me give up more now. As says I can get worse. And although mentions three types , one related to my illness.

Do these kundlis actually mean anything. On one hand it was right, and then I'm thinking there could be millions with same d of birth and time as me, so they all can't have same as me or same future.

I always thought Kundlis have no place in Sikhi, but how can they give right info in regards to wats going on in ones life?

Can simran change a persons kundli? I heard Gods name can if they wish, so am holding onto this concept. But then think wats th point if my kundli says this. Although another said something different few years ago. Don't know y even bothered to have it done. Any hope had is gone now. And y do Some Sikhs have them done, like me I guess I wanted some gud news, but instead got bad news from it.

Are they true or not? Or nonsense?

without nam you will get affected by maya , this includes the planets but remember Nam is above everything ...try reciting this shabad ' Nam Niranjan Neel Narain' from Guru ji it is very strong also listen/ do Benti Chaupi as many times as you can .

[Guest Curious and lost]

Thanku wat does Nam Niranjan Neel Narain mean? Before I start any shabad a negative thought always comes in my mind, wat if it goes opposite n I get worse. Don't know y but it automatically happens like this. But on a good point read today on a site something written that said even sadhus saints from all religions never advised anybody to look towards birth calculations, including Hindu Muslim names and Guru Nanak Dev ji all said to only say Gods name. So that has lessened my worry a bit. But they do give a lot of vehm.

[Guest hsingh975859t]

DONT LISTEN TO THAT JUNK. Gurbani is truthfull not any of that other muck.Recite Chaupai sahib do mool mantar keep up the simran focus as hard as you can it will get easier as you go on. Listen/read Dukh bhanjani sahib. Listen to katha try to so simran 24 hours a day internaly. And DONT WORRY about all those fake calenders believe in guru ji.

[Guest Curious and lost]

Thanku HSingh975859t will try to do that.

[hsingh8963]

Its me hsingh but this is my actual account lol... Just keep us updated on the forum really the most important thing is to believe in waheguru and not these fakes and keep up the paat. It will be tough in the beginning but dont worry and stay happy

[jkvlondon]

Thanku wat does Nam Niranjan Neel Narain mean? Before I start any shabad a negative thought always comes in my mind, wat if it goes opposite n I get worse. Don't know y but it automatically happens like this. But on a good point read today on a site something written that said even sadhus saints from all religions never advised anybody to look towards birth calculations, including Hindu Muslim names and Guru Nanak Dev ji all said to only say Gods name. So that has lessened my worry a bit. But they do give a lot of vehm.

http://www.sikhnet.com/shabad-printer/3245

Shri Guru Granth Sahib ji angs 867, 868

goNf mhlw 5 ] (867-19)

gond mehlaa 5.

Gond, Fifth Mehl:

nwmu inrMjnu nIir nrwiex ] (867-19, goNf, mÚ 5)

naam niranjan neer naraa-in.

The Name of the Immaculate Lord is the Ambrosial Water.

rsnw ismrq pwp iblwiex ]1] rhwau ] (867-19, goNf, mÚ 5)

rasnaa simrat paap bilaa-in. ||1|| rahaa-o.

Chanting it with the tongue, sins are washed away. ||1||Pause||

nwrwiex sB mwih invws ] (868-1, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in sabh maahi nivaas.

The Lord abides in everyone.

nwrwiex Git Git prgws ] (868-1, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in ghat ghat pargaas.

The Lord illumines each and every heart.

nwrwiex khqy nrik n jwih ] (868-1, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in kahtay narak na jaahi.

Chanting the Lord's Name, one does not fall into hell.

nwrwiex syiv sgl Pl pwih ]1] (868-2, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in sayv sagal fal paahi. ||1||

Serving the Lord, all fruitful rewards are obtained. ||1||

nwrwiex mn mwih ADwr ] (868-2, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in man maahi aDhaar.

Within my mind is the Support of the Lord.

nwrwiex boihQ sMswr ] (868-2, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in bohith sansaar.

The Lord is the boat to cross over the world-ocean.

nwrwiex khq jmu Bwig plwiex ] (868-3, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in kahat jam bhaag palaa-in.

Chant the Lord's Name, and the Messenger of Death will run away.

nwrwiex dMq Bwny fwiex ]2] (868-3, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in dant bhaanay daa-in. ||2||

The Lord breaks the teeth of Maya, the witch. ||2||

nwrwiex sd sd bKisMd ] (868-4, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in sad sad bakhsind.

The Lord is forever and ever the Forgiver.

nwrwiex kIny sUK An�d ] (868-4, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in keenay sookh anand.

The Lord blesses us with peace and bliss.

nwrwiex pRgt kIno prqwp ] (868-4, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in pargat keeno partaap.

The Lord has revealed His glory.

nwrwiex sMq ko mweI bwp ]3] (868-4, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in sant ko maa-ee baap. ||3||

The Lord is the mother and father of His Saint. ||3||

nwrwiex swDsMig nrwiex ] (868-5, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in saaDhsang naraa-in.

The Lord, the Lord, is in the Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy.

bwrM bwr nrwiex gwiex ] (868-5, goNf, mÚ 5)

baara^N baar naraa-in gaa-in.

Time and time again, I sing the Lord's Praises.

bsqu Agocr gur imil lhI ] (868-5, goNf, mÚ 5)

basat agochar gur mil lahee.

Meeting with the Guru, I have attained the incomprehensible object.

nwrwiex Et nwnk dws ghI ]4]17]19] (868-6, goNf, mÚ 5)

naaraa-in ot naanak daas gahee. ||4||17||19||

Slave Nanak has grasped the Support of the Lord. ||4||17||19||

[Guest Curious and lost]

Thanks jkvlondon much appreciated.

[jkvlondon]

Thanks jkvlondon much appreciated.

No Problem , Veer/Bhaine ji just remember when someone pushes their agenda on you 1. what's in it for them 2. what's in it for them 3. what's in it for them .... in the case of palmistry /birthchart peeps they can control you and extort money.

[Guest Curious and lost]

I am a bhen ji @ jkvlondon. It was one of those TV kundlis, which did cost a lot just for waiting. But once told ended it quickly.