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Maybe this is the wrong place to put this but well, it's good for the Punjabi community in general so:

"This is the most irresistibly joyous musical-theatre make-over of a much-loved movie since Billy Eliot. It does more for genuine Girl Power in the span of an evening than an eternity of Viva Forever! (the short-lived Spice Girls juke-box venture) could have achieved.

And how rare and refreshing in this particular genre to find young characters who aspire to something different from breaking into show business. Another reason to welcome the piece in which Gurinder Chadha, director and co-author of the phenomenally successful 2002 film, has masterminded a version that reinvents rather than recycles the material.

So how do they do the soccer then? I refuse to tell you by what varied and suspenseful ways the production suggests the trajectory of the fateful kicks, but I will say that, as an uplifting celebration of multi-cultural Britain, this show plays a blinder."

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theatre-dance/reviews/bend-it-like-beckham-the-musical-phoenix-theatre-first-night-review-joyous-and-refreshing-revival-of-gurinder-chadhas-film-10342096.html?icn=puff-3

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Let's have a male centred story where the Asian male is being molly coddled by his manipulative conniving mother and being bullied by his man hating lesbian sister where he strives to regain his masculinity of which his cuckold beta male father is unable to provide.

I like the sound of that but I think at the end of the day it's just a good fun show bit like Mama Mia.

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I am kind of tired of female centred Asian female oppressed, evil male patriarch, forced arranged marriage, fall in love with non Asian person, sympathised by gay best friend storyline.

But I guess it fits in with the lefty/liberal/luvvy agenda.

I like to see something fresh from Asian writers without having to resort to same old clichés.

Let's have a male centred story where the Asian male is being molly coddled by his manipulative conniving mother and being bullied by his man hating lesbian sister where he strives to regain his masculinity of which his cuckold beta male father is unable to provide.

This wont happen as the racist white mainstream media agenda is to promote and subconsciously put in the minds of the general people of ideas of portraying "white atheist hedonist males with oppressed asian/brown women", "homosexual couples", "indian/asian/brown men as oppressive rapists", "violent or sex seeking black men with easy liberal hedonist white women".

Take for example the shows on TV right now. Big bang theory that character Raj is portrayed as a loser indian guy who never gets girls and when he likes a white girl they reject him after or wont be his girlfriend. While his white friend gets with his Indian sister who is sneaking around her traditional parents.

Lets look at gurinder chanda's bride and prejudice where the indian woman gets with a white guy in over the top cringe worthy so called fairy tale romance. Gurinder chada also created "desi rascals" where she casted mostly muslim guys to take the lead roles flirting around with asian girls.

It is very rare to see any kind of positive protray of brown skinned/asian males. Lenny henry the comedian got roundly attacked by the establishment media when talked about black males not getting any roles in British media. I would say black males are overly represented in the media (movies, music artists, TV presenters, footballers and other sport stars) compared with their population percentage however our ethnic demographics are not. We do not even have an asian lenny henry to come out and speak about this either.

We just need to analyse how the white mainstream media works to see what the agenda is, they cant be overtly racist against brown/asian males so they do it very subtlety. They dont want to tell the truth of how much oppression, hardships, racism, discrimination, prejudice, aswell as cultural restrictions asian/brown males face. That important story they dont want to tell or push in the mainstream agenda because they want to make asian/brown males as unappealing as possible for their further victimisation in society.

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It's a show and it's all about bums on seats and ticket sales so IMHO it's just about what people want to see and spend fifty quid going to see it.

If people don't go to that show it will fold so when the white mainstream racist media stops talking about it and people still go to see it because they feel it is a good evenings entertainment

then maybe we can have a sensible discussion about why people go to these sort of shows.

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It's a show and it's all about bums on seats and ticket sales so IMHO it's just about what people want to see and spend fifty quid going to see it.

If people don't go to that show it will fold so when the white mainstream racist media stops talking about it and people still go to see it because they feel it is a good evenings entertainment

then maybe we can have a sensible discussion about why people go to these sort of shows.

To a lot of folk the Black and White Minstrel show was seen as a good evening's entertainment.

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To a lot of folk the Black and White Minstrel show was seen as a good evening's entertainment.

Yes but this show is written by an Asian and most of the credit will go to Asian/ Punjabi actors and singers with a great emphasis on the huge variety of colour and music within the Asian/ Punjabi culture/ community so I think your comment is a bit below the belt.

You really cannot compare this show to the black and white minstrel show, not even in the same Galaxy Ranjeet.

This is a show written by one of your own not some white dude blacking up his face, putting on a Turban and pretending to be a Bhangra singer.

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Yes but this show is written by an Asian and most of the credit will go to Asian/ Punjabi actors and singers with a great emphasis on the huge variety of colour and music within the Asian/ Punjabi culture/ community so I think your comment is a bit below the belt.

You really cannot compare this show to the black and white minstrel show, not even in the same Galaxy Ranjeet.

This is a show written by one of your own not some white dude blacking up his face, putting on a Turban and pretending to be a Bhangra singer.

Eduardo

I think maybe you may have misinterpreted what I have been saying.

I personally do not see it as a race issue, I was just trying to provide some context in how some Punjabi/Asian may see this.

For me it is largely an intra - Asian issue in how particular Asian writers are pushed to the fore and they always have a particular theme that seems to be magnified by certain influential areas of the media.

It is an insult to me and other Punjabis/Asians because it claims to be a victory for diversity and multiculturalism but who is it a really a victory for?

The sad thing for me is it this all our Asian actors and writers are capable of? It's the same rubbish for the last 30 years.

There is a lack of diversity of stories, themes, writers. We Asians and Punjabi's are not some 2 dimensional characters, there is far more depth and character than what we are being shown currently.

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Nicely put Ranjeet but this is pure market forces not some conspiracy, this is purely what is popular and what sells tickets.

It's what people want to see and pay a lot of money to go and see it.

I love Sikhism and Punjabi culture (and I have only just dipped my toe in the water) but I just think that anything that gets it more spotlight is a good thing.

In the movie her own father was a turbaned Sikh and he was portrayed as the nicest most understanding guy you could imagine.

English society is warming to Sikhism more and more each day but things take time.

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It's not really the white mainstream media at all, even white peoples values are being destroyed by the mainstream media. Ask your white friends the values of their grandparents generation and compare them to today's. Do some research and you'll find out that this is some deep stuff this deterioration of values is now starting to happen I'm traditionally conservative countries like India as well all. Enlighten yourself this isn't about white vs black it's much more deeper

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