Why Do So Many Sikhs/punjabis Support Liverpool/united

[Hammertime007]

I have two issues on football but will keep them on the same thread. First why does so sikhs/support liverpool united. All these supporters come from London and the Midlands, why not a local team? Is it to with hunger for success? Why not a local team spurs, villa, arsenal are big clubs. Some will say that London teams have a racist following like west ham or chelsea, they did not now. But people from Liverpool are some of the most racist you could come across in the 70s and 80s. Yet so many of lads support liverpool from that generation.wolves wba have alot of sikh fans but considering the area they should have more. secondly what do you think bout safe standing? Celtic have why not in England?

[MisterrSingh]

A more pertinent question is "Why do Sikhs / Panjabi guys get so worked up about a sport that systematically shuts them out from ever reaching the top of that sport?" The suggestion is that only White and Black players possess the inate skill to make it in football? That's complete balls, no pun intended.

In the 80's and 90's the scouts and managers would churn out the old excuses like, "Indian parents want their kids to be doctors, lawyers, etc, hence why there's not many choose to from," or "Indians have a poor diet or they're vegetarians, as such they lack the nutrition to compete as athletes." Again, nonsense in this modern context.

Aside from the odd Asian player in the leagues below the Premier League, it's a travesty, and one swallow doesn't make a summer. By cheering on these teams we are implicitly lending credence to the belief that we can cheer on from the sidelines like a bunch of gimps but we aren't good enough to play.

As for the original question... because we're glory hunters.

[Balkaar]

It's typical of immigrants, recent or otherwise. Ask any guy who has literally just floated into this country on top of a box of mangoes which football club he supports and he will invariably tell you 'Manchester United'.

Why someone who lives in West London would support a Manchester based club is beyond me. Support your local team.

[Cisco_Singh]

In short,.because they are all "glory supporters" a lot of older generation Indians/punjabis are Liverpool fans because when they came to the UK in the 70's Liverpool were the most succesful club in England in terms of trophies and winning things. So the easy thing tio do is associate yoursef with the popular club thats winning things.

Later on as years went by the Manchester United glory supporter generation came about when the balance of power swung from liverpool to Manchester United. More recently you will have noticed the growth in Chelsea supporters. It's the same concept these are not true football fans.

[JagsawSingh]

Why someone who lives in West London would support a Manchester based club is beyond me. Support your local team.

Historically, Hounslow (and particularly the Feltham part of Hounslow) was, and to an extent still is, the epicentre of Chelsea's fan base.

Historically, Southall (2 miles up from Hounslow) was the epicentre of QPR's fan base. My dad was QPR and he passed it on to me. It's in our blood. It was always sacriledge for someone from Southall to support Chelsea. But today's kids in Southall have no understanding of these things. I get sick to my stomach the amount of apne Chelsea supporters I see in Southall these days. :angry2:

[eduardo]

It's typical of immigrants, recent or otherwise. Ask any guy who has literally just floated into this country on top of a box of mangoes which football club he supports and he will invariably tell you 'Manchester United'.

Why someone who lives in West London would support a Manchester based club is beyond me. Support your local team.

You have a wonderful way with words that always makes me chuckle.

I guess the PC brigade have done a good number on me throughout the years because I start to feel guilty even thinking along these lines now.

[Hammertime007]

Historically, Hounslow (and particularly the Feltham part of Hounslow) was, and to an extent still is, the epicentre of Chelsea's fan base.

Historically, Southall (2 miles up from Hounslow) was the epicentre of QPR's fan base. My dad was QPR and he passed it on to me. It's in our blood. It was always sacriledge for someone from Southall to support Chelsea. But today's kids in Southall have no understanding of these things. I get sick to my stomach the amount of apne Chelsea supporters I see in Southall these days. :angry2:

if people of Southall support chelsea it's not a bad thing better than supporting some team from the north. You can't beat the second city derby villa v birmingham city has an electronic atmosphere, it get nasty on and of the pitch but it's part of the thrill

[JagsawSingh]

if people of Southall support chelsea it's not a bad thing better than supporting some team from the north. You can't beat the second city derby villa v birmingham city has an electronic atmosphere, it get nasty on and of the pitch but it's part of the thrill

Its history though Hammertime. A rite of passage. Every other Saturday Sikh men would travel up the Uxbridge Road to Shepherd's Bush with their son but the newer arrivals in Southall (those that didn't come in the 50's and 60's) have no appreciation of any of the history. You know, growing up, you knew your cousins down the road in Hounslow would fall under Chelsea's catchment area whereas we were QPR's or Brentford. Now Brentford is an interesting one because although technically it falls under the London Borough of Hounslow historically it always fell under the hundred of norwood green (southall) so as you can see genuine football fans have a greater appreciation of history. I just can't see the current crop of Asian glory hunter fans as genuine fans.

[Balkaar]

Historically, Hounslow (and particularly the Feltham part of Hounslow) was, and to an extent still is, the epicentre of Chelsea's fan base.

Historically, Southall (2 miles up from Hounslow) was the epicentre of QPR's fan base. My dad was QPR and he passed it on to me. It's in our blood. It was always sacriledge for someone from Southall to support Chelsea. But today's kids in Southall have no understanding of these things. I get sick to my stomach the amount of apne Chelsea supporters I see in Southall these days. :angry2:

With the exception of your QPR fanhood, you've expressed my own sentiments exactly. I can't say that football allegiances are hereditary in my family, unfortunately, speaking as a Brentford supporter who was sired by a glory-coveting red devil.

I guess the PC brigade have done a good number on me throughout the years because I start to feel guilty even thinking along these lines now.

Why feel guilty eduardo? It's hardly the white mans' fault that apne are so utterly predictable and adept at living up to their own stereotypes.

[eduardo]

Why feel guilty eduardo? It's hardly the white mans' fault that apne are so utterly predictable and adept at living up to their own stereotypes.

Well apne is a new word on me.