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Sikh male anand karaj with hindu girl. Locals please contact anand-karaj-awareness-campaign@outlook.com so that this beadbi can be dealt with!

The brides father sat on a chair (no health issues)just out darbar sahib during anand.karaj when prompted anand karaj is about to take place he said he not bothered! (Sat at back in mint colour rumal)His daughter walks around maharaj inappropriatly dressed and head not covered!

Committee are in clear breach of the rehat maryada and guru gobinds singhs hukams, which clearly state both couples must be of Sikh faith none other.

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Daljit Ji when 99% of the population in the UK and Canada are non-Sikhs (with Sikhs being an even smaller minority in other diaspora countries) it's inevitable that year after year these types of marriages will increase.

The young bride of previously Hindu background has by virtue of having Anand Karaj now become Sikh so why not wish this couple well? Why not engage with the young couple to increase their links to Sikhi rather than alienate them?

The question is how do we turn something that could be a demographic time bomb for the community into something that links more and more ordinary people to Sikhi through this. Such marriages are increasing year after year which is an unstoppable reality that can't be ignored by blocking the odd marriage or two and the couples in all cases then severing all links with Sikhi for their future children (who should not be denied Sikhi regardless of what we might think of the parents). The consequences of exclusion would be that the Sikh Diaspora population would be less than half its current size within a generation. Hundreds of thousands of new Sikhs came into Sikhi during the Singh Sabha era as a result of free Anand Karaj sewa that was free from the discrimination of so-called self-styled "high caste" Muslim Qureshi caste Qazi's and Brahmin Hindu Pandits. Those were the days when the Sikh population was rising sharply.

We need to get to grips with reality that a 1% minority will always have members marrying those of other backgrounds.

It's all ultimately about ensuring that the children of such marriages have strong links to their Gurdwara and feel an integral part of the Sikh Panth. This is exactly what happened a hundred years ago when even both spouses comprising non-Sikh couples were given the blessing of Anand Karaj at local Akali Singh Sabha Lehar Gurdwara's and I'm Sikh today as a direct result of this historical reality.

Instead of focussing on this issue, I would humbly request you that it's more important that with your efforts we unite the Panth into having only a single saanjha united Sangat Gurdwara in every pind in Punjab and locality in the West. When matrimonial apartheid in biraderi terms has not been stamped out 316years after 1699, expect an ever higher number of so-called mixed marriages to occur in the future if we do nothing to tackle this anti-Gurmat discrimination.

World religious systems are mostly based on faith and fairly strict dogma, doctrines and codes which are not negotiable . Although quite exceptionally, in Sikhi some do claim that the faith and reason go together. The trouble with that assumption, of course, is that ‘reason’ sees through the lens of own prejudices and biases. Your line of questioning are no exception. So in human dialogues, different viewpoints based on ‘reason’ are to be expected

Guru Nanak said I am not a muslim or Hindu etc Im a human being. Lets get this clear from the start; a Sikh can get married to who ever they want. In accordance with Guru Nanak’s teachings, a Sikh can in fact do anything they want in life; they are the masters of their own destiny and responsible for their immediate surroundings in which they reside.

However, there are in life some decisions we make that lead to more desirable outcomes than others and a Sikh – as a student who not only wishes to learn from the Guru but also aims to put that which they learn into practice – is steered towards making those more desirable decisions, one of which is to share this lifetime with another who is on the same path and trying to learn from the same Master.

This is reflected in the very concept of the Anand Karaj which is depicted as a union of two souls who become one. The verses read during the ceremony which solemnise the marriage speak of the coming together of the soul bride with the Truth, but as with much of the Guru Granth Sahib have a secondary meaning at a Worldly level of the coming together of the bride and groom at the feet of the Guru.

The Anand Karaj is neither a blessing nor an exchange of vows, rather it is the first step of two people who wish to live and work as one whilst committing themselves to the path espoused by Guru Nanak. Clearly for this reason it is a ceremony that should not be entered into lightly by both Sikhs and non-Sikhs alike!

Of course a Sikh can still opt to marry a non-Sikh, this has always been the case. But as should be plainly obvious if you read the preceding lines, the Anand Karaj is not an appropriate vehicle for such a marriage. In my own personal life, I can vouch for a number of persons who enter into a mixed-faith marriage and are living quite happily together, but who made the informed and appropriate decision not to request an Anand Karaj. And here is where the real problem lies: there are far too many Gurdware and administrators of Sikh institutions who are unfamiliar with the principle behind an Anand Karaj altogether lack the knowledge and understanding of what lies beneath the rites and customs Sikhs utilize in their everyday life and so are ill-equiped to deal with this issue

There is only one solution to this entire issue and as ever it is education. I would hazard a guess that the overwhelming majority of Gurdware committees themselves have no clue that the Anand Karaj is not an exchange of vows between two people, but is a coming together of those two souls at the door of Guru Nanak in renunciation of all others

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AI = Of course a Sikh can still opt to marry a non-Sikh, this has always been the case.

DTF = Agreed and imho it is thus better for our Panth in the long term to acknowledge the erstwhile non-Sikh partner as a new member of the Sikh Panth by virtue of their bowing down before Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj.

AI = the Anand Karaj is not an appropriate vehicle for such a marriage.

DTF = Other modes of marriage Bhai Sahib, particularly if as a consequence of blocking a couple, inevitably result in the loss of the couple and their future generations from the Sikh Panth leading to our demographic annihilation in the Diaspora over time.

AI = In my own personal life, I can vouch for a number of persons who enter into a mixed-faith marriage and are living quite happily together

DTF = Agreed and the percentage of such marriages increase year after year, so we should seek to ensure that the children of such marriages are integral members of the Sikh Panth and all are made to feel welcome in their local Gurdwara rather than ostracized and banned from Anand Karaj so as to cut off the couple and their entire future generations from Sikhi.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/77316-all-the-singhs-are-good-for/page-4

DTF = All those that attend Gurdwara's from what are often considered non-Sikh backgrounds are in fact sehajdhari Sikhs. The Sikh Panth will only strengthen when we rightfully recognise these tens of millions of faithful Gurdwara Sangat as sehajdhari Sikhs (rather than wrongly classifying such Sangat as something else like our opponents want).

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Preeet where are you getting all of your info from? It does not make any sense. Can you clarify if you are a Hindu or not? note that I do not have anything against Hindus (one of my best friends is also a hindu). Based on your many posts you really need to refresh your basic understanding.

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