Shocking Use Of Words By Journos

[StarStriker]

The telegraph has written an article on the recent fiascos regarding protests at sham anand karajs. Just look at the words used throughout the article. Oh and guess which so-called sikh journo is also quoted in this? Not once was guru gobind singhs 52 hukams mentioned in this cr@ppy article. Though i do not endorse any violence used by protestors, but using words like "religious militants"?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11836456/Religious-militants-force-mixed-faith-couples-to-abandon-wedding-ceremonies.html


By Patrick Sawer
9:00PM BST 01 Sep 2015
Community leaders have held crisis meetings after Sikh militants invade wedding ceremonies in opposition to interfaith marriages
A spate of protests by Sikh militants has forced mixed-faith couples to abandon their religious weddings ceremonies in distress for fear of violent disruption.
Community leaders have held crisis meetings after fundamentalists invaded two wedding ceremonies in the space of a few days in opposition to interfaith marriages between Sikh and non-Sikhs.
Around 25 men, some of them masked, stormed a wedding being held at a temple in Birmingham earlier this month, in protest at the marriage of a Sikh woman to a non-Sikh, white man.
The protesters reportedly hurled abuse at guests and temple elders.


Sri Dasmesh temple in Birmingham
A week earlier around 20 men forced the cancellation of a wedding after bursting into a Sikh temple in Southall, west London, in a similar protest at a mixed marriage ceremony.
The two incidents are the latest display of what moderate Sikh leaders fear is a rise in intolerance towards mixed-marriages among sections of the Sikh community.


Such is the fear of disruption that a number of mixed-faith couples are known to have now cancelled their forthcoming Sikh religious wedding ceremony in favour of a civil marriage.
Community groups and representatives from temples around the country met last week in Southall, home to one of Britains largest Sikh populations, to draw up stricter guidelines for marriage ceremonies.

Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha Temple in Southall, West London Alamy
But it is feared the militants will continue to stage protests at any Sikh temples which decide to continue conducting marriage ceremonies between mixed-faith couples.

Dr Mohinder Singh, one of Birminghams leading Sikh figures, told The Telegraph: This type of incident is becoming more common and we are worried about it. We should all be concerned, because anything that disrupts harmony between communities is wrong.
Eye-witnesses said a group of protesters burst into Birminghams Sri Dasmesh temple and community centre on Saturday, August 15 in a bid to stop the ceremony called the Anand Karaj between a Sikh woman and her white, non-Sikh fiancé.

The couple had anticipated some opposition to their marriage and in the hope of defusing protests had signed a declaration in which the groom agreed not to have another religious ceremony to celebrate the marriage. It also stated that any children would be brought up in the Sikh faith.

The couple went so far as to hire security guards to protect the premises, in the Lozells district of the city, but they were quickly overwhelmed by the protesters.


Sikh temple in Southall, West London Alamy

According to one account the men were abusive not only towards the families, but also the Gurdwara Committee. They also taunted them repeatedly. Some of the men were masked and covered their faces.
Police were called and managed to eject the troublemakers, although no arrests were made.
Eight days earlier a gang of around 20 men stormed the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, in Southall, one of the largest temples in Europe, forcing the cancellation of the Anand Karaj ceremony between a Sikh woman and her Polish, Christian fiancé.

The evening before one of the protesters had threatened to stop the wedding in an anonymous phone call to the temple, which was inaugurated by Prince Charles in 2003.
Following the invasion one of the men reportedly told temple officials that if the wedding was not called off hundreds more protesters would descend on the premises.
Police were called and officers removed the men from the temple. No arrests were made.

The couple were so distressed they agreed to cancel the religious ceremony and were instead married in a civil ceremony at the temple.


Prince Charles on a visit to the Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha Sihk Temple in Southhall, West London Ian Jones/The Telegraph
Prince Charles at the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara, Havelock Road, Southall
One Sikh bride-to-be has told The Telegraph she feels so intimidated by the protests that she and her white South African fiancé have cancelled their Gurdwara wedding ceremony, planned for next year.

The couple, who asked not to be identified for fear of retaliation, will now marry at a registry office near their home in Kent.
The 34-year-old, who met her Afrikaans fiancé while backpacking in South Africa, said: We had both been looking forward to the ceremony. So were both our families. It was going to be something special in front of our relatives and friends. But Im so worried about any protest Ive felt I had no choice but to cancel it.

Its very upsetting to have to do this, but I dont want to have the added stress.
She said several of her Sikh friends were in successful mixed marriages and that she had no wish for her fiancé to abandon his Christian faith and convert to Sikhism.
The woman, works for an investment bank, added: Its really disrespectful of these people to go around breaking up weddings like this. Thats not the kind of Sikhism I was brought up to believe in.
As Sikhs we dont impose our religion on others and I hope it never gets to that stage, but thats what these people are doing.

In July 2012 a Sikh woman, Susan Momi, and her Christian fiancé, Kenny Lawrence, were locked out of their own wedding in Swindon after more than 40 hard-liners barricaded themselves inside the gates of the temple.
Despite the brides mother pleading with the men they refused to call off their action.
The same year the windows of a familys home in Coventry were smashed just hours before a mixed faith wedding in a nearby Gurdwara.
The father of the bride said his house was targeted because his daughter was marrying a Hindu man. The wedding was eventually conducted the help of a police escort.
Last weeks meeting brought together members of the Sikh Council, the British Sikh Consultative Forum and around 300 representatives from Gurdwaras around the country and other Sikh community groups.
It agreed to recommend that only Sikhs and those who have converted to Sikhism be allowed to take part in the Anand Karaj ceremony and urged militants to refrain from further protests.

Dr Singh, who was awarded the OBE earlier this year for his work in bringing people of different faiths together, said many Sikh families have doubts about whether a mixed marriage could succeed because of religious and cultural differences.

But he added: Increasing numbers of couples are intermarrying in this way. By any standard it is not right to disrupt a wedding. It is a milestone in any couples life and it should be full of happiness.

Some commentators fear the protests herald the rise of a more fundamentalist strain of Sikhism determined to impose stricter controls on the community.
Sunny Hundal, a writer, blogger and lecturer, said: A beautiful and open way of life and philosophy is being subverted by some goons who want to force others to follow them. These people are nothing but thugs masquerading under the banner of religion.
I recognise that many people think the Anand Karaj wedding ceremony should only be between two Sikhs. But they have no right to impose their views on others through threats, violence or thuggery.

But one of the Southall protesters, Jaspal Singh, 25, said they had resorted to direct action only after the temple stated its intention to go ahead with the ceremony.
Mr Singh, an engineer, said: "We're not thugs. We take no pleasure in protesting on someone's wedding day. But we've been trying to negotiate with the Gurdwaras on this issue since 2007.

"According to the highest Sikh protocols a couple who want to have a Sikh spiritual union have to both be practising Sikhs. That doesn't stop a mixed faith couple getting a civil wedding in the temple."

[Singh4Liberty]

People still read the mainstream news BS?

Corporate Media is not to be trusted

[gsingh9]

Only thing we can do is complain

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/topics/about-us/10831533/Editorial-complaints.html

[JagsawSingh]

Why blame the media ?

Just like they did in Southall the above article makes it clear that the journalists went through proper channels and consulted a leading local Sikh to fill them in on the situation. Just like what happened in Southall we discover that our 'learned elderly Amritdhari respected Sikh leaders' are nothing short of a hot steaming pile of tutti.

So, lets not blame the jounalists here. Lets look closely at what kind of man Dr Mohinder Singh is and what exactly does the massive Gurdwara on Soho Road actually stand for.

Then you have sub-questions such as why he is so in favour of mixed marriages in the Gurdwaras. Who are his children married to etc ?

So, to recap: The journalists keep behaving responsibly and consulting our elderly Sikh leaders for guidance. Our 'Sikh leaders' keep selling us out. But instead of bringing these Sikh institutions to book we blame the journalists. Thus, given our stupidity, we are getting the kind of press we deserve.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhai_Mohinder_Singh

[simran345]

There was a programme on Sikh Channel, Sikh Council UK update on Anand Karaj protocol this evening. I recorded it but can't upload on here.

[StarStriker]

Why blame the media ?

Just like they did in Southall the above article makes it clear that the journalists went through proper channels and consulted a leading local Sikh to fill them in on the situation. Just like what happened in Southall we discover that our 'learned elderly Amritdhari respected Sikh leaders' are nothing short of a hot steaming pile of tutti.

So, lets not blame the jounalists here. Lets look closely at what kind of man Dr Mohinder Singh is and what exactly does the massive Gurdwara on Soho Road actually stand for.

Then you have sub-questions such as why he is so in favour of mixed marriages in the Gurdwaras. Who are his children married to etc ?

So, to recap: The journalists keep behaving responsibly and consulting our elderly Sikh leaders for guidance. Our 'Sikh leaders' keep selling us out. But instead of bringing these Sikh institutions to book we blame the journalists. Thus, given our stupidity, we are getting the kind of press we deserve.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhai_Mohinder_Singh

Thats a good point there jags, i have heard and know of this dr mohinder singh, as ive seen him on various things on the net, with his birmingham projects, but i didnt for some reason match the 2 persons when reading this article. When it comes to interfaith langars/projects (which is nice) he seems to have a expertise in this, however it looks like hes taken that over to interfaith marriages too, and finding them acceptable, which it isnt. But it just shows u, that it is these committee/community leaders who do NOT seem to want to follow gurus hukams, instead they just keep a stranglehold on the communities voice.

"We should all be concerned, because anything that disrupts harmony between communities is wrong".

Im sorry he says this pathetic line in the article, yet the question is, HOW is this distrupting harmony between communitieS, when it is a SIKH issue? Its just such a typical PC/flower power hippy sikh pre-rehearsed cop-out statement.

Totally agree with u tho jags, these self appointed community jathedars r selling the kaum out bigtime, and its embarassing when non-sikhs say "if the gurdwara/temple committee/owners r in agreement with these mix marriages, then y r sikhs arguing for, surely its an in-house problem?". These r the modern-day masands, who have in the past stole the sangats money in r gurus times, and r the masands who put idols inside harmandar sahib during the british raj times.

[gsingh9]

Why blame the media ?

Just like they did in Southall the above article makes it clear that the journalists went through proper channels and consulted a leading local Sikh to fill them in on the situation. Just like what happened in Southall we discover that our 'learned elderly Amritdhari respected Sikh leaders' are nothing short of a hot steaming pile of tutti.

So, lets not blame the jounalists here. Lets look closely at what kind of man Dr Mohinder Singh is and what exactly does the massive Gurdwara on Soho Road actually stand for.

Then you have sub-questions such as why he is so in favour of mixed marriages in the Gurdwaras. Who are his children married to etc ?

So, to recap: The journalists keep behaving responsibly and consulting our elderly Sikh leaders for guidance. Our 'Sikh leaders' keep selling us out. But instead of bringing these Sikh institutions to book we blame the journalists. Thus, given our stupidity, we are getting the kind of press we deserve.

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Bhai_Mohinder_Singh

But the title calling protestors, militants in my opinion is unnecessary.

Also they were given a list of contacts to inform by Sikh PA but most of it was ignored.

There was a programme on Sikh Channel, Sikh Council UK update on Anand Karaj protocol this evening. I recorded it but can't upload on here.

Should be on their YouTube channel soon.

[jkvlondon]

the Torygraph will be commited to following the UK govt's propaganda drive due to India's Govt push and blackmail about possible loss of trade deals. so don't be too surprised

[JagsawSingh]

But the title calling protestors, militants in my opinion is unnecessary.

The journalists used those words because the 'authority on Sikhism' they consulted insinuated that the young Sikhs that protest are more or less militants and thugs.

You can't blame the journalists for that. If I lived in Birmingham, and I thank god I don't, I would demand answers from the Soho Road Gurdwara and the whole nishkam sevak jatha in general as to why they fed the media the line that Sikhs who protect the honour and sanctity of SGGS ji are militants and troublemakers. If I could, I'd give that Bhai Mohinder Singh tosser a damn good slapping.

the Torygraph will be commited to following the UK govt's propaganda drive due to India's Govt push and blackmail about possible loss of trade deals. so don't be too surprised

The 'Torygraph' went to a 'Sikh Leader'...i.e the 'highly respected' Dr Mohinder Singh of the Soho road Gurdwara, for guidance on the issue. The 'Sikh leader' basically told the torygraph that Sikhs that protect Guru ji are militants. Your anger then should not be directed at the newspaper. Your anger and disgust should be directed towards the millionaiires that run our Sikh institutions. They run them not because they are good Sikhs or even good humans in general but because they are rich and because they are rich our community give them respect.

2 times in the space of 2 weeks we've had a disgusting press precicely because of what 2 of our millionairre 'leaders' have said. First in our country's biggest city and now in it's second city. Its time we stopped blaming the press and tied people like Mohinder Singh to a donkey, blackened his face and get children to throw tomatoes at him as he is paraded down the high street.

[mrggg123]

The journalists used those words because the 'authority on Sikhism' they consulted insinuated that the young Sikhs that protest are more or less militants and thugs.

You can't blame the journalists for that. If I lived in Birmingham, and I thank god I don't, I would demand answers from the Soho Road Gurdwara and the whole nishkam sevak jatha in general as to why they fed the media the line that Sikhs who protect the honour and sanctity of SGGS ji are militants and troublemakers. If I could, I'd give that Bhai Mohinder Singh tosser a damn good slapping.

The 'Torygraph' went to a 'Sikh Leader'...i.e the 'highly respected' Dr Mohinder Singh of the Soho road Gurdwara, for guidance on the issue. The 'Sikh leader' basically told the torygraph that Sikhs that protect Guru ji are militants. Your anger then should not be directed at the newspaper. Your anger and disgust should be directed towards the millionaiires that run our Sikh institutions. They run them not because they are good Sikhs or even good humans in general but because they are rich and because they are rich our community give them respect.

2 times in the space of 2 weeks we've had a disgusting press precicely because of what 2 of our millionairre 'leaders' have said. First in our country's biggest city and now in it's second city. Its time we stopped blaming the press and tied people like Mohinder Singh to a donkey, blackened his face and get children to throw tomatoes at him as he is paraded down the high street.

cant we all do a revolution against the elders who run the gudwara and overthrow them. put in younger singhs who dont care about money