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I want to say sorry for creating forums about proof of heaven and hell, and our Soul. When I check people say we are permanently dead, while others say our soul goes to another place. Its just confusing. People want proof for everything. Its like Aliens, people believe that there are is other life, but there is no evidence. They are 100% sure. Thats what we all believe that there is god, and another place for our souls. We don't have evidence, but we believe. I am a Sikh, and I am not a troll. I am just curious about it. Its just that everyone wants proof these days. But, we don't have proof, no one came back from the dead, and told us about what was heaven and hell like. Like for example, about our soul. I became close to god, and my urge for getting revenge on the Hindus from 1984. but these feelings were just gone. It was like an onion, the skin got pealed away, and I am getting close to the core (god). But, is there any proof if heaven and hell exists, and the soul. Its just a curious question, I don't want to insult anyone.

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But, is there any proof if heaven and hell exists, and the soul. Its just a curious question, I don't want to insult anyone.

From the amount of questions you've repeatedly posted about this topic, I'm guessing that it weighs quite heavily on your mind. To be honest with you brother, I don't think you're asking this question over and over because you want to pursue knowledge for its own sake. I think you're scared that the answer to your question is "no", and you desperately need to be assured otherwise.

I'm sorry, but there is nobody who can give you that surety. There simply is no proof that heaven, hell or the soul exist. These things must be taken on faith. It's no good attempting to gauge their existence using logic and scientific deduction - science and faith, as pointed out by the paleontologist Stephen Jay Gould, are "non overlapping magisteria". They don't intersect.

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To Canadian Singh, the best thing for you would be to attend a Sikhi camp for children your age and you can ask any questions you have there as there will also be same age group, plus lots of activities you can participate in to learn all about Sikhi.

You may have missed them this year, but depending on what area you are in there may still be some on.

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Have you asked your parents these questions dear child? Are you concentrating on your school work? You seem to be asking a lot of questions for others. It would be interesting to know who these people who want proof are? Are they your school friends?

I'm sure he or she is not a "child" because the questions themselves show a great deal of intellectual maturity.

As for "asking parents", I wouldn't reccommend that at all. We are, at the moment, living in a time where young Sikhs are showing their parents the correct way and enlightening them. Parents generally, if they're from India, fall into 2 camps:

  1. Those that will say it is foollish to question so many things and even Gurbani says only a fool debates about issues
  2. Those that confuse the written works of man (like you and me) with Gurbani. So, a tradition of Sikhism or a way of thinking within Sikhism, invented by a group of men sitting in a room together in the 1920's is mistakingly seen as the word of the Gurus.

Thus, the OP of this thread has shown him/herself to be the complete opposite of a "child". A great deal of mental and spritiual maturity has been shown.

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Jagsaw paji he wrote he's 13years old, so I'm only replying to what I've read. It's difficult to tell as 13 year olds are quite intelligent nowadays, and he keeps going on about science. Science vich soohi fasi a. Hanji you are right about the parents bit, but that I asked to make sure if he is the age he says. I haven't read all his posts, so I'm sorry if I've not given the right advise.

I was also thinking that at 13yrs these sort of questions didn't cross my mind, especially the spiritual ones, but I didn't know his age, as he states until this morning.

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It's not bad you asking questions; however, you basically made the same topic over and over again only with different words. A lot of your questions can be answered on this website: http://www.sikhanswers.com/ they have a slight AKJ bias, but most of your questions will be answered. You could also go to Basics Of Sikhi youtube site.

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Jagsaw paji he wrote he's 13years old,

Did he? I'm sorry then. I don't really read tend to read whole messages...I tend to skim through them and only digest the bits I find interesting.

Having said that though, I highly doubt he is a 13 year old. Not only is his academic ability that of a much older person but one has to admit that it is highly unusual to find a 13 year old Punjabi in Canada deep into spirituality. 99.9% of them at that age are deep into bhangra and hip hop.

s this guy - emphasis on "guy" - still being indulged?

I'm having a great time observing where he's heading.

I've been out of the loop the last couple of weeks. Where d'ya think he's heading MisterSingh ?

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I've been out of the loop the last couple of weeks. Where d'ya think he's heading MisterSingh ?

In short, subtle (for him) attacks on dharmic concepts such as reincarnation, as well as the rejection of an ever-lasting soul that is reborn according to karmic deeds, in favour of Abrahamic absolute concepts such as heaven and hell. Eventually, the use of science and logic to undermine those previously mentioned concepts, whilst promoting the Islamic view on such matters, but in a very vague and obtuse manner so as not to draw attention to his true agenda.

Of course, his vocabulary will gradually, miraculously, begin to improve over the course of days and weeks, his ideas and explanations becoming steadily lucid and forthright as he begins to feel comfortable on the forum. Had he not made a point of stating his age and stuck to just being a Singh from Canada he might have been able to pull off this charade, or at least make his attempts to troll less obvious for a short time.

Then there's the emotive inclusion of Hindus and 1984, because he knows if there's one subject that unites most Sikhs is the events in India during that time, and the hatred for the Hindu mobs who caused misery for Sikhs.

If I were to hazard a guess I'd say this 'CanadianSingh' is the same individual who purported to be 'WaheguruBhagatSingh' but I could be wrong.

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