Replying To Caste System In Sikhi [Late S. K.Singh Deep Ji's last message for all of us]

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[quote name="AmarjitKaur" post="452434" timestamp="1266513440"] vaise why even get in jat pat at all. Why not, just "not ask" the jaat paat. U meet a girl/boy, see if you click, and never ask that question. move on if you do, otherwise keep going. Eventually, you would have a life partner what god have written for you, from the jat you are from or not. I don't think God would have wanted to create divisions on who is bigger or better and who is not. God must have just planned to make one human form to get this soul chance to get out of birth-death cycle. But now that there are too many humans (souls in this universe given chance to evolve), we created another drama here on this earth. I wish we could just see that original plan waheguru jee have for us. 9th Guru jee says [font=GurbaniWebThick][size=4]mwns ko jnmu lInu ismrnu nh inmK kInu ] [/size][/font]m[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]nas k[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color] janam l[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]n s[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]maran neh n[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]makh k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]n || [i]You obtained this human life, but you have not remembered the Lord in meditation, even for an instant. I believe Guru Gobind Singh jee says this [/i][url="http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php?title=Manas_ki_jaat_sabe_eke_pehchanbo&action=edit&redlink=1"]Manas ki jaat sabe eke pehchanbo[/url] : All Humans are of one and treat all humans equally[/quote] [quote name="AmarjitKaur" post="452434" timestamp="1266513440"] vaise why even get in jat pat at all. Why not, just "not ask" the jaat paat. U meet a girl/boy, see if you click, and never ask that question. move on if you do, otherwise keep going. Eventually, you would have a life partner what god have written for you, from the jat you are from or not. I don't think God would have wanted to create divisions on who is bigger or better and who is not. God must have just planned to make one human form to get this soul chance to get out of birth-death cycle. But now that there are too many humans (souls in this universe given chance to evolve), we created another drama here on this earth. I wish we could just see that original plan waheguru jee have for us. 9th Guru jee says [font=GurbaniWebThick][size=4]mwns ko jnmu lInu ismrnu nh inmK kInu ] [/size][/font]m[color=#080088][b]aa[/b][/color]nas k[color=#080088][b]o[/b][/color] janam l[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]n s[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]maran neh n[color=#080088][b]i[/b][/color]makh k[color=#080088][b]ee[/b][/color]n || [i]You obtained this human life, but you have not remembered the Lord in meditation, even for an instant. I believe Guru Gobind Singh jee says this [/i][url="http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php?title=Manas_ki_jaat_sabe_eke_pehchanbo&action=edit&redlink=1"]Manas ki jaat sabe eke pehchanbo[/url] : All Humans are of one and treat all humans equally[/quote]

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Posted 27 March 2013 - 06:57 AM sat

Jat marry non jat this means nothing if you are sikh. If u r a sikh u r not jat nor non jatt u r just a sikh. Saying jat etc is sin itself.

it does mean nothing if you are a true sikh , but how many people are.

There are so many who dont want to acknowledge , Amrit , rehat etc, but still call themselves sikhs, then you have people who call themselves ravidassis etc. until everyone does not follow the teachings of Guru Gobind singh ji and take amrit keep rehat and accept SGGS JI as there only Guru then caste will be a issue

Posted 15 March 2013 - 08:27 PM

Jat marry non jat this means nothing if you are sikh. If u r a sikh u r not jat nor non jatt u r just a sikh. Saying jat etc is sin itself.

Posted 25 August 2012 - 03:24 PM panther

true our Guru's tried to stamp it out but we're too slow to fully implement true Sikhi

it's a shame bcuz we're copying Muslims+Christians when it comes to caste

Posted 25 August 2012 - 09:27 AM zaz

cast system has been making inroads in Sikhism, because after the departure of last Guru the Apostasy or downfall of true sikhi began. Ever since the truth has been being replaced by ignorance regarding the true message of the Guru.When Gurus were present among the saints they kept the sangat on the straight and narrow path of righteousness. They had the spiritual power to withstand the pressure of the world around them. History shows that those Sikhs would rather lay down their lives for the sake of truth than scum to it. But it is a different picture today.I see Sikhs with 5 ks doing all kinds of ignoble things.
The big stumbling block the Sikhs have erected for themselves is believing Guru Granth as the 11th guru , when the gurbani tells us that the Guru has ascended to Devpuri and he is a living being. How can a book of instructions impart that which Guruji bestowed upon his Sikhs. Was there a shortage of holy books in the days of the Gurus on the Indian soil. Nay, Guruji brought back that which was lost among the Hindu pandits and Muslim Mullas.They restored the true ordinances and principles and provided light and truth to their Sikhs so that they can connect with the Almighty. The scholars and gianis cannot give you light. The only thing they can give is the explanation of the past history, going round and round in circle.All religions are doing the same old thing. The Sikh Holy scripture is full with nuggets of gold, pealrs and gems. But who will interpret the word of God? Only one who is sent from above ,like Guru Nanak.
Almighty God, Wheguru, has been sending his messenger in every age (yug). So when guru Nanak ji came with a message from God, he did not direct his followers to fallen sects of the day. He did not say that the holy scriptures of Hindus, Muslims and Christians were wrong, but rather he said that glories of that God has been sung by past devotees.
ਪੂਰਨ ਪੁਰਖ ਅਚੁਤ ਅਬਿਨਾਸੀ ਜਸੁ ਵੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਣੀ ਗਾਇਆ ॥
पूरन पुरख अचुत अबिनासी जसु वेद पुराणी गाइआ ॥
Pūran purakẖ acẖuṯ abẖināsī jas veḏ purāṇī gā▫i▫ā.
The Vedas and the Puraanas sing the Praises of the Perfect, Unchanging, Imperishable Primal Lord.
ਬੇਦ ਕਤੇਬ ਕਹਹੁ ਮਤ ਝੂਠੇ ਝੂਠਾ ਜੋ ਨ ਬਿਚਾਰੈ ॥
बेद कतेब कहहु मत झूठे झूठा जो न बिचारै ॥
Beḏ kaṯeb kahhu maṯ jẖūṯẖe jẖūṯẖā jo na bicẖārai.
Do not say that the Vedas, the Bible and the Koran are false. Those who do not contemplate them are false.
The books cannot give you mukti. .So Sikhs will have do pray for and seek after that same true samgat of saints which has been restored by the Lord. I give a clue, it is not to be found among the present Sikhs. They will have to look for it outside. It is there on this earth. I belong to such sant mandal.
Wahegur ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fathe.

Posted 30 May 2011 - 04:28 PM Singh559

Waheguru waheguru waheguru Posted Image

Posted 19 April 2010 - 04:19 AM Azaad

I salute to k singh deep for initiating such relevent topic, actually we guys always find some excuse to
interprete the things our way (for those who think there is nothing bad in caste system ), not even sparing
gurbani.I personally know veer deep ji , he spent his life perfectly according to Gurmat , and passed away
recently on 5 Apr 2010 after brief illness . let us all pray that his soul stays in unison with the great Creator

Waheguru....Mehar Kari Dateya....

:sad:

Posted 18 April 2010 - 04:39 AM .- Prabhjot Singh -.

Oh Waheguru Ji! I had emailed him not so long back to enquire about his health but got no replies. Oh Waheguru ji, please keep our brother's soul in your feet. I feel so sad right now

Posted 18 April 2010 - 03:03 AM

Vaheguroo

May Vaheguroo bless his soul.

Posted 17 April 2010 - 10:36 PM jaswinder singh