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  2. AjeetSingh2019

    Sikh Father and Son beaten by Delhi police

    Just saw the video yesterday on WhatsApp. Was shocked but not surprised considering it's Delhi. I don't live there fortunately. Because it's a region of backward illiterate migrants from haryana, Bihar, UP , basically the wildest of states . BTW, Sikh MLAs of Delhi did create a loud opposition and apparently the 3 men responsible were suspended and further inquiry into the matter set in. In a hindsight, I felt what if the Sikh guy was at fault ?? What if we're trying to give into our passions and looking it at from biased communal views. But you also can't deny the fact that the treatment meted out to him was in no way professional and btw, the father and kid were both beaten up in police custody too, the kid being a minor. YES THE COPS SHOULD BE FIRED. Many , not surprisingly, within the Sikh community are seeing this incident as part of larger state sponsored oppression against sikhs.
  3. Ranjeet01

    Sikh Father and Son beaten by Delhi police

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  5. i dont think baba ji could ever lie, but I can't come to accept that sant ji left darbar sahib while it was being desecrated.Khalsa doesn't run from the battlefield.I think they are shaheed.How else could you explain this picture: Here's a scenario I thought where they are shaheed but still "come back". They might pargat as a jot like how people have darshan of shaheed singhs and "come back" like that. Sant ji isn't gone anywhere from where they need to come back,like all shaheeds and other Sikhs in sachkhand.I also thought that perhaps they would take birth for the sake of the panth again as if they haven't done enough already. Regardless of what we think individually, it isn't going to change anything for ourselves or for the panth.We just need to focus on ourselves and what will happen will happen.
  6. GuestSingh12345

    indian govt. return historical manuscripts to sgpc

    we need a digital database with full pictures of the original saroops alongside a typed version of each aang.That might be a solution to remove suspicion of editing,and modification.It should be available to all online on a database and form a library. It would be a huge benefit to the panth if the sgpc would work for the panth.We can make our panth a force to be reckoned with an international scale,and make Sikhi flourish.Most people don't know about Sikhi and denounce religion for reasons like not matching with science but Sikhi does,and people don't know.I think it needs to be restructured in a more dictatorship like structure where you have one appointed jathedar who has full control and no elections or democracy to elect people.The jathedar should be a brahamgyani,someone the panth will stand behind. Of course, the challenge is finding such a leader,maybe maharaj will/has sent someone.
  7. Just saw the video of the Delhi coppers beating up the Father and son. Though I absolutely condemn what the police did as it was despicable. The father did not help matters by running back at about 5 coppers especially with his son being in tow where his young teenage son got a kicking. (His son was trying to stop his father). I will try to link the video, but I think we try to act like the warriors of old but even they would know when to fight back and when to retreat. I see this in a few videos where Urban Sikhs in metro areas do bone headed things like this particularly with the police. There was another video where this very tall Singh choke slammed a copper before he scarpered off on his moped. It's always this: "Meh Singh ya, meh Singh yeh" with this puffy chest. Even a rural pendu Sikh in Punjab is not that dumb to do things like this. You can't win as a Sikh in a Hindu majority area where the police is going to be against you. If the guy was beaten up by himself is one thing bit the fact that his son got beaten as well is downright irresponsible. We have to be smarter than that. @AjeetSingh2019 you are an Urban Metro Sikh, please explain
  8. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Khalsa ji, Dhan Dhan BrahamGiani Pooran Mahapurak Sant Baba Thakur Singh Ji Never ever lied. If they said it then and you beileved it or chose to stay quiet. why all of a sudden the change? Shaheed Baba Deep Singh Ji were 80!! when they got the message of incoming invasion. So is sant ji is under 80 then why would it be too late? also if it was lets say sant ji was 100 then your argument would make sense. instead now just based of the past, they still have time to come. Thanks, bhul chuk maaf karna ji
  9. In the end, the volatile nature of the region and the demographics means that it will NEVER be any sort of stronghold/safe haven for Sikhs compared to other places across the border. But if the principle of safety in numbers and support networks have any truth, refugee Sikhs may well prefer these locations over others. Only rose tinted glasses wearers (of which there are MANY) would blindly consider the place as any sort of friendly safe haven, and experiences with paks in other nations (like the UK) give a strong indication of how we are perceived by many from the region. We've got a problem with simple-mindedness and gullibility, but hopefully people will learn not to be victims of this. Right now, for economic reasons (and maybe political ones too?), it serves p'stan to open up these places. It's on our people to make the most of this and implement whatever security measures are appropriate. Having ears and eyes in the region isn't a bad thing either. Yes, things can change suddenly and quickly, say if some hard-line cleric gets in power. Much like the shift from Akhbar to his son Jahunghira. Events in India like attacks on mosques outside of Punjab can also cause a sudden change too. This happened in Afghanistan with the attack on the Babri mosque for example. If nothing else it can serve as a point for Afghan-pak Sikhs to get closer to the majority panth in Panjab proper.
  10. Not sure whether the displays of affection and respect towards sikhs by the pakistani Punjabi people are authentic reflection of what lies in their hearts. Because if it were the case, surely Sikh population in pak wouldn't have dwindled to what it is today OR perhaps and this could be the case that only the Punjabi speaking Pakistanis of Punjab province find likeness in sikhs across the border because of similar language and to a degree culture, and the apparently sweet memories of Maharaja Ranjit Singhs just rule . I suspect it's mostly the Urdu speaking, deobandi affiliated crowd of pak that creates most islamist problems in both India and pak. Whatever maybe the case Lahore has always fascinated me because of its irreplaceable place in Sikh history. It's a place both loved and hated by sikhs because of obvious historical reasons.
  11. dallysingh101

    Puratan Sikh art

    Awesome post! This one is especially great in details of a class environment. Look at the bottom left corner here. The kid in yellow appears to be smacking up the other one for breaking his water bucket. lol! Then on the right corner another kid appears to be punishing a classmate with the old kukkar move. Are the ones in the middle are making pens (or kalams)?
  12. dallysingh101

    indian govt. return historical manuscripts to sgpc

    I remember something appearing on the market that was supposed to have been from the library a few years back. Can't remember much about it though. As for what has been returned (as per claims), hasn't the SGPC learnt its lessons yet and digitised them and made people aware of what we have? Why do these people sit on these things and not inform the panth of what we have? I know the average illiterate/semi-illiterate apna wouldn't be interested but lots of us would, including (if not especially) in the diaspora.
  13. Yep. Also I imagine the Sikh populations around the Gurdwaras will grow too. So some of those Sikh-Afghan refugees may well find they have less hostile places to visit and meet other sangat?
  14. dallysingh101

    Transitioning from transliteration to reading Gurmukhi

    This might help with interpretation brother. http://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/13297-english-translation-of-prof-sahib-singhs-katha-of-japji-sahib/
  15. dallysingh101

    Transitioning from transliteration to reading Gurmukhi

    I tell you one thing that set me back years (unnecessarily in my opinion). When I started trying to read Gurmukhi properly I too tried with Gurbani but for some unfathomable reason no one told me that certain vowel symbols (especially at the ends of words) are grammatical indicators and are not actually read as part of the word. This can confuse people (well it did me). So you might want to focus on some other less difficult texts (like children's books with words you might already know) for a bit - just to get proper familiarity with the sounds associated with the symbols. Dasam Bani doesn't use these silent symbols so you could also maybe use that as a tool to help nail reading? Great that you've got to this point in any case! Good on you. There is nothing like being able to read in the original script - keep at it!
  16. Bhulan andar sab ko, abhul Guru kartar... Just needto cross reference with Guru ji as the saying goes anything worth knowing is worth the effort
  17. It is an inadvertent way of the Pak Govt saying " Hey Sikhs, if you want to see your Historical sites, you pay for it". The fact of the matter is that Pakistan does not get a lot of tourists in. There are growing number of Sikhs going there and Sikhs going there will spend money. It won't just be pilgrim tours, there will be knock on effect in other areas too. People who left after partition may want to see their ancestral villages.
  18. BhForce

    Confused about gurbani

    No, there isn't, in the way they mean it. Granted, Gurbani says you need a guru. But that the Radha Swamis give the wrong meaning of that to say you need a "living" guru. Of course, though, our Guru is living. What they mean is a Guru made of flesh and bones. If they are saying the meaning of this is that there is a Satguru in every age (jug), then there still is a Satguru ... Guru Granth Sahib ji. It's fine to say that there is still Satguru. Where in Gurbani do they get that Satguru's name is Gurinder Singh Dhillon (the current Radha Swami guru)? Yeah. Tell them, so? You can't find God without a guru. But the only guru worth having is the Satguru (true guru). Gurinder Singh Dhillon is definitely not it. ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਹੀ ਕੋਈ ਨਿਗੁਰੇ ਕਾ ਹੈ ਨਾਉ ਬੁਰਾ ॥੧੩॥ "Without the True Guru, there is not another Guru, and the one without the Guru has a bad name." p434 Ask them to prove that Gurinder Singh Dhillon is the Satguru.
  19. BhForce

    How to develop courage?

    Read Guru Granth Sahib bani Read Dasam Bani Practice Gatka or develop physical strength
  20. BhForce

    Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaheedi - true culprits

    Desh Videsh de Gurdwarian de Parbandh Bare
  21. BhForce

    Guru Arjan Dev ji di shaheedi - true culprits

    Read it. I agree that every historical event has multiple causes. And Chandu was the immediate cause of Guru ji's Shaheedi. It was by his immediate hand or command that the Shaheedi happened. At the same time, it wouldn't do to absolve Jahangir or the Muslim kazis who encouraged Jahangir. Especially given Jahangir's own testimony written by himself.
  22. I have no idea what this video is even supposed to be about. That a few Pakistanis look better than some Indians? Funny enough, one of the examples they give is actor Shah Rukh Khan for Indian. (He's a light-skinned Muslim.)
  23. Do know that everything that Bhai Kahn Singh Nabha writes should not be taken as the absolute truth. Even more so in translation. Then you have no idea what is even being referenced.
  24. Wow, Mahankosh is available in English now? That's great, thanks a lot for the links. Two niggles: 1) the scan by Sikh Book Club is very low resolution. If they were going to scan it, why not just scan at higher resolution? The problem is when you have to increase the zoom to read some words, you can't make out some of the vowel markings. The higher resolution, the easier it is to read letters (whether on the screen or on paper). 2) for some reason the typesetting at Punjabi University wasn't proofread so where they give quotations from Gurbani, in some places they are not Gurbani, but rather the English letters that would correspond to the font.
  25. No, I think it can and should always be under scrutiny. In fact whitewashing your name by donating to religion is a time-honored way for people with ill-gotten gains to absolve themselves of their sins. (Not saying he has ill-gotten gains.) Of course that's a good thing. Yet we all know that there are bad people with beards, too. (Badal & company, for example.)
  26. Sucks. Horrible. In fact, I think it would be better to do something for our brothers and sisters in Pakistan than to destroy the Gurdwaras and rebuild them with marble.
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