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  1. According to the local newspaper that get where daas studies. The four accused have been bailed. Maybe if the evidence was incriminating enough then this surely wouldn't be the case in the UK, but not entirely clued up on Law just yet. Maybe in a few more years. There is also a news report mentioning the names of the accused, however feel that it would be inconsiderate to post it as this will only increase the attempts to get in contact with them to find out the goss and gain some punjabi 'poamp' amongst friends in knowing them or supposedly what 'went down'. Thus this is a humble benti not to post the article with their names on this or any other forum if you find it :umm: :BL:
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  2. Let's not beat around the bush, almost everyone who has posted on this thread strongly suspects this whole things a set up and the 4 British Singhs arrested are being framed.....I think most of us even have a strong suspicion on which group of "panthic" people have influenced the investigation. I don't know whether it's just me but whenever I see a press statement from or hear the name 'British Sikh Council', I get creepy shivers down my spine.....
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  3. It's not really..It's the power of sell out prabhandak committees who act as informants, and usually abuse their postion to frame individuals. Often these arrests are based on nothing but information provided by a couple "influential" sikhs who use their leverage to knock their enemies out of the picture. It's being going on for the last 26 years between elder committees in the UK and the Midlands prabhandaks are experts in framing each other all the time. Someone obviously feeding the ears of the Counter Terrorism Unit rather than providing them with "intelligence"
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  4. The 'Canada' situation is very different in that Canada has a very different culture as a nation and different levels of 'freedom' compared with England. In Canada, its even severely against the law for a person to be publicly drinking in a public park...not to mention in the passenger seat of a car....so this contrasts greatly with the culture in England for every Tombir, Dikjit and Harinder to be walking around publicly swigging from a bottle of can. I know in the last couple of years it has also been against certain minor byelaws to drink publicly in England but we all know nobody pays attention to that and it will take another couple of generations before attitudes change in this country. I guess what I'm saying here is that attitudes, even amomgst Sikhs in Gravesend, will slowly change and we shouldn't be too harsh. My grandad used to tell me how when the Havelock Road, Southall Singh Sabha opened in the early 1960's the langar area used to be where all the Sikhs from Southall and Hounslow would gather after a hard days work and drink beers and home made desi together. They didn't do this out of spight. They did it because for them the Gurdwara was more than a place of worship....it was a place for Sikhs to get together. Slowly but surely they learnt. They learn't how this wasn't acceptable. Gravesend is in a similar situation. Per population it is the most Sikh town in the whole of the UK. As such, attititudes there mirror attitudes in rural Punjab. I've seen with my own eyes how Basakhi and other gurpub days in certain big rural gurdwaras in Punjab....are really just a great big fun fair / mela in the gurdwara complex. People socialising with each other and even buying cannabis pakoras from stalls within the complex....seems to be the order of the day as much as the praying and matha teking. So...as for the showing of sholay in the gravesend complex....in my heart I know it is wrong and shouldn't be allowed. But, another part of me thinks how christian churches right across this countryt have summer fetes and fairs....where the activities are certainly not what 'jesus' would have envisaged for churches...and certainly don't concentrate the mind of the participant on god. But then again these activities aren't really doing anybody any harm. Nothing truly evil is taking place. What can be the harm in the 'community' coming together. There is an argument that if we want the Gurdwara to remain a central part of the community...a central part of the life of the community, we need to have events such as this. The young one, who wouldn't normally go to the Gurdwara will go. Next time, he'll go for the keep-fit class. Next he'll join the football team. It'll only be a matter of time before he also starts spending time in the darbar hall listening to shabads.
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