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My heart is sad, Why is it sad? My mind has been hurt, Who has hurt it? I try and try, Time passes bye and bye. How can I express what I feel now? Working hard by the sweat of my brow. Yet it seems like I am further than ever, Will I win? It's like I will never! But what is in pain? It's just that my mind is in strain, I never longed to be known, nor for fame, My gurus closer to my heart than the pulmonary vein! So why be upset? I will always be in debt, To those who have shown me the way, I make offerings to the Lord and pray, That he may transform me to a swan from a crane, So I may follow the path of a saint. My mind, don't be sad, He is always close at heart, What have we to prove? This filth must be removed. The Guru knows what we do, He knows what is really true, Vaheguroo, Vaheguroo, Vaheguroo!

BAGHDAD — A desolate courtyard surrounded by fields of mournful graves is all that remains of an ancient shrine to the Sikh faith?s founder Guru Nanak inside a sprawling Muslim cemetery in Baghdad. War, insurgents or looters have wiped any trace of a historical footnote that had preserved the memory of the Indian holy man's 16th-century journey through Arabia and his stay in Baghdad, hailed by Sikhs as an early example of inter-faith dialogue. "No one visits anymore," lamented Abu Yusef, the lean and bearded Muslim caretaker, standing in the nearly-bare patio where a disorderly stack of broken electric fans and a discarded refrigerator replace the prayer books and articles of Sikh worship that had furnished a shrine whose modesty mirrored the apparent humility of the man it honoured. "Before the war a few Sikh pilgrims would occasionally arrive," Abu Yusef said, referring to the 2003 US-led invasion that toppled ex-dictator Saddam Hussein and unleashed an unending cycle of violence. "Once or twice we even had Western tourists. Last year, after a very long time, a Sikh man came from Dubai who promised to return and rebuild the shrine. But since then, nobody," he said with a resigned shrug of the shoulders. When they came, the pilgrims would stay a night or two and convert the shrine into a temple, Abu Yusef recalled. "They slept in the courtyard, where they also cooked large quantities of food to share after worship with whoever came along," he remembered, pointing to the places in the roofless, sun-beaten enclosure with whitewashed walls and a plain concrete dais that had housed prayer books, painted portraits of the guru and a prized stone plaque from the 16th century. What is known about the origins of the site, which lies today inside central Baghdad's expansive Sheikh Marouf cemetery that adjoins a disused train station where decaying railroad cars rest frozen on rusted tracks, is gleaned from scant historical sources. One is a Punjabi hymn by the poet and philosopher Bhai Gurdaas, written several decades after the visit. That song, part of the holy scriptures of the world's 25 million Sikhs, recounts Nanak's travels with the Muslim minstrel Mardana who was his constant companion, their arrival in Baghdad and lodging outside the city. In Baghdad, say historical Sikh sources, the pair stayed with Sheikh Bahlool Dana, a renowned Sufi Muslim of the time. "It is curious that the hymn recording Guru Nanak's visit says that he chose to stay outside Baghdad, which at the time was a wealthy, magnificent city and an important centre of learning," said Abdul Majid Padar, India's learned charge d'affaires in Baghdad. "That probably means he had reason to stay outside the city," he said. "I believe it was because he knew about Sheikh Bahlool, and went looking for him." Nanak, an enlightened spiritual thinker who was born a Hindu but gained deep knowledge of Islam as India's other major religion at the time, travelled throughout his homeland and parts of the Middle East, seeking other men of his ilk. He shunned religious labels, teaching that man is judged by deeds, not the religion he proclaims. His ideas, which later formed the basis of the monotheistic Sikh religion, drew from Hinduism and Islam, but are regarded as much broader than a mere synthesis of the two. "Guru Nanak's stay with Sheikh Bahlool was an early example of inter-faith dialogue, of a kind that is hard to imagine in Iraq today," said Dr Rajwant Singh of the the Sikh Council on Religion and Education in the United States. Iraq has been torn by sectarian strife since the fall of Saddam, with Shiites, Sunnis and even the country's small Christian community victims of the bloodshed. It is in the courtyard of the Muslim Bahlool's own humble tomb that, five centuries ago, the remembrance to Guru Nanak was erected. "This shrine is very much sacred to the Sikhs as it stands testimony to Guru Nanak's visit and dialogue with the Muslim Sufi sheikh of that place," said Balwant Singh Dhillon, professor of Sikh studies at the Guru Nanak Dev University in India. Modern accounts of the shrine date back to World War I when the site was rediscovered, after being lost in obscurity for centuries, by a regiment of Indian Sikh soldiers sent to Iraq with the British army. Dr Kirpal Singh, a Sikh captain in the Indian medical service who travelled to Iraq, described the shrine in a letter dated October 15, 1918. "It is really a humble looking building and known to very few people except Sikhs," he said in an account quoted by the SikhSpectrum.com online journal. Other accounts and faded photographs reveal an ancient stone plaque at the entrance, commemorating the building of the memorial, as the centrepiece of the shrine. The plaque was dated 917 on the Islamic calendar, or 1511 A.D. Pritpal K. Sethi, who visited Baghdad in 1968 with her late husband, in-laws and three children, told AFP she was moved to be standing at the same spot as the holy man. "I really got a great feeling as I was standing on the same site visited by Guru Nanak Sahib. It was a very emotional feeling," said Sethi, who was 31 at the time and living in neighbouring Kuwait. "It was a very small, simple structure of about 600 square feet (56 square metres). There was a large courtyard outside. Not many Sikhs used to visit at all," said Sethi, who is now 73 and living in the United States. "Definitely, the most precious thing at the shrine was the ancient plaque that verified the legitimacy of the site," she said. Curiously, it was the hymn by Gurdaas that probably led to the rediscovery of the shrine. Subedar Fateh Singh, one of the Sikh soldiers in Iraq during World War I, announced the discovery in 1918. "I am certain that Fateh Singh knew about the shrine from the hymn, which he must have learned in childhood, and he went looking for it," said Padar, the Indian embassy charge. The shrine was repaired by Sikh soldiers in the early 1930s, and reportedly again during World War II, when another regiment of Sikh soldiers was stationed in Iraq. But accounts of what happened more recently to the shrine and its contents, including the 16th century plaque precious to Sikhs, are sketchy. Shortly after the March 20, 2003 invasion of Iraq, Indian media reports variously said the shrine had been damaged or destroyed by US shelling, with other accounts claiming it had been bombed by Islamic extremists. But a visit to the shrine showed no hint of damage anywhere in or around the shrine, raising the possibility that everything, including the stone plaque, was likely looted. Abu Yusef, the caretaker, said he had been away at the time of the invasion and did not know what had happened and Padar, the Indian charge, said his own understanding of an attack during the war had come from news reports. But with the temple gone, the only footsteps of the Sikh holy man's journey through Baghdad remain in the memories of visitors like Sethi. "It greatly saddens me," she said about the shrine's destruction. "It signified Guru Nanak's wish to spread his message of peace, love and a rejection of superstitions and rituals in search of the truth," she said. "He yearned to spread this message throughout the world, and he travelled on foot from India to deliver it."

He's got some skills! Love it when his dad says "upproun khich, upproun khich" haha

wjkkwjkf i would like to know why has there been no news on the main english channels about Gagandeep's death? channel 848 has beeen the main channel for reveal further news about Gagandeep, but why has it only been released on sikh tv channel they should revealed what happened on sky news to make people alert of what has happened. This issue needs to be addressed further and everyone should be able to see that Gagandeep's put alot of effort for many sikhs but not only the sikh communitty should see this. The whole world should come to know what signifance he made at just the age of 21.

Citizen Soulja Jee I whole heartedly agree that we were sent here to protect the downtrodden and certainly will once we establish a unity of our own we are fragmented and need to sort out our own house and protect our people before we go around judging the biggest democracy on earth. Afghanistan hates Sikhs with a vengeance and they have destroyed most of our shrines and kicked out our brothers and sisters and declared war on the world what can we possibly do for these people. The training the USA get is very disciplined for get the media and hollywood you will get an obvious amount of small idiots that give the entire army a bad name but overall the world is a lot safer with people like the USA in power could you imagine Afghanistan in power they are absolutely nuts and we have already had to deal with them once. I feel we are shooting ourselves in the foot by attacking the superpowers that will help Sikhs get justice for crimes committed against us I am in no doubt the people who commited this will get justice internally. Now what to do to highlight the huge amount of crimes against Sikhs which compare to the crimes above but run into the hundreds of thousands. WJKKWJKF

so why should he lie about singhs eating horses, when it is established historical fact? someone with such biased views such as yours shouldn't be a moderator either in my opinion. i see you shut down that other thread, when people started to question your beleiefs.

^^LOLZ AT ABOVE POST^^^ isn't it the very essence of being "Panthic" to look at the injustice around us and condem it? To say with one loud clear voice that injustice against one is injustice against all? For are we all not the children of God? America is the worlds largest terrorist state. The subversive agencies that make up the neo-colonial silent empire are deep routed within the fabric of the America establishment. As others have said their history is marred with the blood of innocents. It's very Panthic to highlight such abuses least they befall us!! I dunno maybe I'm just a hopeless romantic, but I can't help to think that Sikhs where put here as guardians of the people much like the rangers in the LOTR, kings without a kingdom roaming the wilderness (of maya) forever seeking to protect that which is good.... Just a fun fact: GrimReaper joined: 19/07/10 Clarity joined: 18/02/11

Hi Avtar. I hope my reply will help you but yet agian many religious questions have a response which is subjective more than objective. Well looking at it generally all religions be it any, want their children to marry from the same religion. I think its the way we humans have divided our selves. We say we are all equal (Avan allah noor upaya gudrat ke sabh bande) and yet we divide our selves at times. Its not that a muslim, christain etc person is any way different from a sikh. It is just that our beliefs are different. My personel opinion is some one should not marry from outside their religion because it has some extra complications and the main one being whicvh religion your child will follow, then will the person survive with the partner when following different rules/ beliefs. At the end God is one, but then we have different ways of living and someone marrying another person from another religion may have some complications. It may be easy to say fine one child will follow religion A and the other B, but its difficult in practice. I have a friend who wants to marry a hindu and she is a close friend and the only advice i gave her is will her parents be happy and will u continue to be a sikh. I asked her never to leave sikhi after all what Guru ji's have done for us. She said her bf said she will be allowed to follow and i had told her its easy 2 say...once sum1 gets married and it is usually seen that the husband religion previals over the whole family. Yet again her parents are religious and she told me that she doesnt want to leave the boy because its her first love. The answer for that is every 1s first love is their mom...moment we are born we are so close with our mom. So if first love is a factor then its her mom and her parents she should follow because they will want the best for you. I hope i may have helped a bit. And im sorry for any wrong sayings or so :-).

well not satisfied i mean ur satisfied but not tired u never bore of wahgroo because God is infinate and limitless yes we have to naam jaap dont get me wrong but it is not because of our naam japping it is because of Gods kirpa we find him we need that relationship even if we jaap naam day and night without the kindness of the Guru our efforts are worth nothing we cant be mechanic japping naam is important but first we must pray for Gods protection we must see that we will never be able to swim across this world without his sharan and even japping naam the minute we start even before the vikaars start to attack us that is why japping naam is important but being in Gods sharan and living according to his hukam is step one

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Veerji, Foremost we should remember that Shabad is GURU and whosoever recieves that Baksheesh from Akal purakh, become roop of Shabad irrespective whether He is of different Caste, Relegion, Race or Color. When we look at the world , we look in CHaamdrishti(looking at the Body Parts or Physical body) but puran satguru, Sant, mahapursh doesnot look at the Physical body but they Have Brahm Drishti(they look at the Jot prevading in every being). Bhagat Bani in SGGSji was written by calling those Bhagats from Sachkhand and give their Bani COnrtibution. the pen with which Gurbani was written was also from Sachkhand which was thrown into Shri Harimandir sahib ji's sarovar after completing the Adi granth(then Guru Gobind singh ji used that pen from Sachkhand to write entrie SGGSJi and Dasam Granth). Some people debate that Bhagat bani was written by collecting the sorces from where bhagats were living; thats not true; SGGSji is dargahi bani and whatever is written in it and whosoever's bani is written are also Dargahi. Guru nanak Dev ji Bowed to Guru Angad dev ji, Guru Angad devji bowed to Guru Amar Das ji and So on till SGGSji. this what Gurbani says- GURU-CHELA Relationship. Guru Bestows someone special from the sangat to become Guru in future(When we says Guru-that means Shabad da nivaas in that Deh). Vaho vaho Gobding Singh Ape Guru Chela. that means he himself is Guru and does bakshish on Chela to Become Guru(Shabad Roop) but we See on Chaam Drishti not Braham Drishti. Only few in the True Sangat have access to see Satguru in Braham Drishti which shresht Bhagati. Since we are not able to see what they see in Guru, we fight/Debate to convince our points to others.

Telling a person to dress modest regardless of gender is something Sikhs do. If a sister came up to me and told me i was wearing clothing that are inappropriate i wouldn't mind at all. I would thank her and be very mindful of what i wear next time. Only the sisters have a problem with a Singh telling them when its comes to inappropriate clothing because they believe the Singh is speaking from an authority stance. But its not an authority thing at all. It comes from being around lust driven men/youth/teens who love it when woman show their figure, whether the clothing hug the body or no clothing are covering it. I was answering to guest5 post, which is calling Singhs, fanatic Muslims. He/she doesn't realize not all men in the world read Gurbani and treat woman like their sisters. There are more men in the world that treat woman as lustful objects than sisters. So why put yourself in a position where it jeopardises your modesty? yeah a jacket or sweater can do the trick aswell. I'm not saying its neccessary for a woman to wear a chunni, but its in her benefit when other clothing like jackets and sweaters cant be worn in the summer months.

Read the previous post that show how there is something wrong with marrying a non-Sikh even before the marriage. And you comment of Sikhs are not in a race to become the biggest religion is just to side track this whole discussion. Guru Sahib is happy with only one Sikh or no Sikh in the world rather than deluding Sikhi into saying a Sikh can marry a non-sikh. Sikhi is more dear to the Guru than some mear soul that is going to turn into dust at the end.

I would like to add that I don't think my father realized what books he was getting because he didn't get one on my list. He just asked the shopkeeper for some good books. I realize that this book is going to be a load of crap but I am still reading it because I think it is important to know what lies are being spread. I am going to fnish this book. And I was hoping to find a book if any that were written in reply to this book.

Doesn't matter, as long as the kids are raised as GurSikhs with the right resources to be sewadars for not only the Sikh Panth, but for all of humanity. Ek Sikh = 125,000 sawa lakh.

THIS.....IS.....PANJAB!!! :D Might I add that its all well and good having kids, but only if they're brought up in the right way. Having a religion full of future manmukhs running around (more so than nowadays) would be a disaster. That's one thing I admire about the Muslims (if 'admire' is the right word) - they really do raise loyal, little Islamic soldiers don't they?

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sant jarnail singh ji still being alive is a myth started by the indian government like how he slipped into pakistan. if sant ji is in hiding than he wouldn't be a sant after all that has happened. the myth was started so that when singhs would go to other singhs houses saying jago. then the other singh would say, i'm not gonna fight yet i'm waiting for sant ji to return. there are no sikh leaders right now. and those few that are around are too powerless to be able to do anything. United We Stand, Divided We Fall. we are falling. there is only one sikh leader that i have faith in, bhai jeevan singh. (no i'm not akj, i'm part of no jatha, i'm part of the khalsa panth) all our leaders are puppets attached to really long strings.

Sant Jarnail singh is shaheed!!!! in the picture above, you can see the wife and younger son of sant jarnail singh with baba harnam singh. Im not the biggest fan of baba Harnam singh and think he could be more vocal but why is sant jarnail singh's family in the picture? Are they backing a fakestar or are they being forced? Why are they there? I repeat, Sant Jarnail Singh is shaheed.

I personally think Sant Baba Jarnail Singh ji is shaheed and the 'jathedar' role for damdami taksaal ended with his shaheedi if there's no consensus on the jathedar of taksaal.

You are wrong in everyway possible way. Your whole post is based on saying no religions are inferior, but you are very wrong. Read Sri Chaupai Sahib da paat. Guru Sahib banished all religious scripture and bowed his head at the feet of Gurmat. A Sikh cannot join union with a person that does not accept all of the teachinges of Gurmat. Hindus defy Gurmat by worshipping idols, Muslims defy Gurmat by bowing toward Mecca, Christians defy Gurmat by discriminating between good and evil, Jews defy Gurmat by their kosher meat. A person that doesn't follow Sri Waheguru ji's teachings can't join with Sri Waheguru ji, then how in the world is a person that does not believe in Gurmat going to join with a person that practices Gurmat. Read Sri Japji Sahib ang 4, where it says the soul is affected by every action the body performs. For a Sikh Gurmat is not separate from every other aspect of life. If you believe no religion is inferior then go the Harmindar Sahib and move Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaj to one side and place the Vedas, the Bible, the Koran beside it and watch the nearest Gurmukh make use of his Sri Baguati ji.

Mohinder pal, how much praising is done in this shabad. jIA aupwie jugiq hiQ kInI kwlI niQ ikAw vfw BieAw ] jeea oupaae jugath hathh keenee kaalee nathh kiaa vaddaa bhaeiaa || You created all beings, and You hold the world in Your Hands; what greatness is it to put a ring in the nose of the black cobra, as Krishna did? Krishna was not the Sargun Avtaar of Akal Purakh. If Krishna was, then Satguru Sri Guru Nanak Dev ji Maharaj would not have questioned Krishna's actions.

Oh come on we have both quality and quantity quit being so negative just because where you live there maybe a bad quality of Sikhs you also need to focus on the good as well I have personally met hundreds of good Sikhs and believe me there are a lot more good Sikhs than there are good hindus good christians or good muslims. We have a much higher ratio of good caring people in our community than all of the other communities combined you are more likely to meet a good Sikh than a good person of any other religion.

There are few on here are going to be negative about Sikhi and hug their culture of alcoholics and bhangra... Sikhs have the resources and time now to teach the younger population about Sikhi. In our parents time (im a youth) they were focused on building the foundation for us to spread Gurmat here in the west. With all the resources and time we have now, more of the population will learn about Sikhi can get on the correct path. Don't worry about the few that only have negative response. Let them drown in their negativity.