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  1. I watched the Dudley Protest show on Sikh Channel last night at 9.30pm...now while the Gursikhs in the Studio correctly stated what occurred on the day and they did so very well but the only video's shown by Sikh Channel showed a very one sided account of the day...the videso were very aggressive and confrontational...why was the other side not shown (Simran/Jaap)? Yes a few moments were shown where simran was done but the complete focus of the videos was on the few outburst alone! I've received numerous calls from mone friends/family saying that the protest was wrong as all the youth were ac
    5 points
  2. Sikh Channel have always been at the forefront of reporting panthic issues. HOWEVER, yesterday's show was a major blot on their image. The footage shown was totally out of context and focused on a few minutes of the six hour protest. In my opinion, they focused on the that particular part purely for the ratings. Up until yesterday night I was a hardcore supporter of the Sikh Channel right from the outset and have urged others to support too. Despite personal knowledge of the owners background I thought the channel were doing a fantastic job. Last night I thought for the first time that maybe
    3 points
  3. What a ridiculous thing to say. While I totally disagree with the slaughter of goats at Sri Hazoor Sahib, to compare the fried chicken booze ups the dudley masands wish to see carried out on Guru Sahib's land in Guru Sahib's name to what Hazoori Sikhs believe to be an age old maryada is ludicrous. What is happening at Dudley is a direct violation of Khalsa principles that none of the panth disputes. What happens at Hazoor Sahib however is based on one sampradas understanding of Sikhi and is a matter for the panth to decide through vichaar.
    3 points
  4. Press Release and Sangat Update Dudley, UK - 29 May 2011 www.SatkaarCampaign.blogspot.com Dudley Gurdwara agrees to implement Akal Takht Sandesh in Sikh Cultural Centre Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Over 500 Sikhs from across the country gathered outside the Sikh Cultural Centre in Dudley which is part of the Guru Nanak Singh Sabha (GNSS) Gurdwara (Sikh place of worship) to attend a PEACEFUL rally against the committee and trustees of the Gurdwara. The peaceful rally took place after months of attempted discussions and dialogue with the GNSS Dudley Gurdwara by both the Sat
    2 points
  5. Please take a deep breath and read again what I wrote, dont' panic yaar! But as your on the topic, my opinion is that force is justified after spending months pleading, sending letters, seeking guidance from Singh Sahib Akal Thakt, consulting elders, doing ardas, reading Maharaaj's Hukamnama, doing chaupai sahib - then yes (i personally would have skipped a few stages) Meat Curry? served with a pint? thats Langur? :ohmy2: issnt that what they were singing before they crapped themselves? :blush2:
    2 points
  6. Well done to Satkaar Sewadars for highlighting this issue to the wider community. Your tireless efforts in trying to dissolve this issue long before it went to protests is hugely appreciated by all Sikhs. In a time where most people show no respect to their own friends, Satkaar showed total respect to this besharam committee with continuous dialogue and constructive debate. For a Sikh, Pehla waar should be kalamaan da, Satkaar sewadars sent letter after letter, with utmost respect for the committee, they then went direct to Singh Sahib, Akal Thakt for confirmation. Satkaar went out of the
    2 points
  7. SikhChannel should be banned from filming at any future satkaar campaign protests, if there going to abuse there trust. Give coverage to sangat tv and Sikh tv instead.
    2 points
  8. Having had a chance to sleep on it and after talking to a few Singhs, my opinion on the situation has changed somewhat. I want to write a few pages of words to explain myself but I've not got the patience so I'll keep it short. The general population is being emasculated and frightened by those in power so that we take whatever crap is dished out to us without even a murmur. That's the first thing. Secondly, bring Sikhi into the equation and we all know we're under attack from various sides just because we refuse to die out. That's the truth of the situation. Now there's a new dimension to
    2 points
  9. the problem with sikh channel is that it is coordinated by a bunch of novices on little money who couldnt care less about anything... the onlyu reason they showed this was so as to incrrease viewer ratings...again this leads me onto my mool mantra of this forum - reform reform reform....if the same sort of thing happened in muslim community would their channels show a biased picture of events. weve got donkeys running gurdwara's wee got donkeys running the media we got hundreds of different donkey groups in india, the chardikala singh/singhnees need to get together and be properly organised
    1 point
  10. Sikh Channel always want to be the first to broadcast everything, but I believe they didn't think it through about broadcasting the 'negative' sides of the protest... I bet everyone now thinks, What the hell... Sikhs vs Sikhs... :\
    1 point
  11. 108 jaaps:) waheguru ji!!! modnote: Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru Dhan Guru Pyaare! Jaaps added jeo
    1 point
  12. Please add 75 jaap .. waheguru modnote: Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru, Dhanvaad Guru Pyaare Jeo Jaaps added!
    1 point
  13. Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh Please see the following thread for antriv arth of Sri Mool Mantar Sahib Ji according to the Damdami Taksal and Sato Gali Taksal in english. The translation seva has been done by Bhai Sahib Bhai Kamalpreet Singh Ji (Kam1825). Wahegurujikakhalsawahegurujikifateh
    1 point
  14. Shame on the sikh channel, they claim to be the voice of the panth, theyre worse than the dhust you would expect the english media to misportray us sikhs but our so called own channel to ...hmmm sikh channel for you!!!
    1 point
  15. Why didn't Sikh Channel show the Simran, Chaupai Sahib, Ardaas, Meeting with Committee/Trustees, the nagara etc? Why the dangerous bias from the Sikh Channel? Sangat TV did a good job projecting the protest on their earlier show covering the real element of the protest whilst also discussing the disorder that took place There's no denying that there was some disorder and the Police will no doubt investigate as is their job, but the protest largely revolved around Singhs, Singhniya and kids sitting down doing chaupai sahib and simran to the beat of a nagara..... The fact that Sikh Channel sp
    1 point
  16. VaheGuru Jee, Please add 2200 ... Dhanvaad Jee modnote: Hum Saadh Janaa Kaa Keera, Waheguru Waheguru Phenji Dhanvaad jeo your jaaps have been added!
    1 point
  17. I'm try to put this in a perspective that sums up what happened. First the Gurdwara committee lied that they would stop the parties in the hall. However some Singhs did not trust their word and still went to protest and when they showed up to the hall, they did a peaceful protest. No Singh caused any violence or provoked anyone into a fight. But then you have some party goers come out of the party where they must have been drinking alcohol, eating their meat, and dancing. These party goers provoked the Singhs by challenging them to stop the beadbi. These Singhs took up the challenge beca
    1 point
  18. Ha if it were upto people like you, everyone would be sitting on chaddarraan outside doing simran whilst people inside were sessioning and dancing. Where would this situation have got to if those singhs didnt force their way in? You like sitting behind computers telling people how it should be done. your ideals are not realistic in the real world. you hold your own community back
    1 point
  19. Having watched the footage on Sikh Channel all I have to say is shame on you Dudley Committee for causing this to happen. I don't understand how you can sit inside eating meat and drinking alcohol while Guru Gobind Singh Ji's children are doing simran on the floor outside. I don't understand how can you have no problem with causing the children of Dashmesh Pita to be beaten by the police. I don't understand how you can spit in the face of your Guru. How do you sleep at night?
    1 point
  20. One funny video :D For those taking this video seriously , I think it's definitely a joke lol so lighten up
    1 point
  21. My best friend recently died from alcohol at the age of 33 he has left behind a widow and a son aged 8 years, this was due to the fact him associating with people who drink "one can of beer", "one bottle of bacardi" or "one bottle of whiskey" to celebrate their sons "engagement", "marriage", "birthday" this was the reward of happiness for his parents - let me point out my best friend was the only son! My best mate and myself grew up together surrounded by these halls that promoted partying, consumption of alcohol and meat in the name of Sikhi! The "community", "family" and "friends" encourag
    1 point
  22. lol, I haven't seen this program before but it seems like they're just lighting the mood maybe? I don't know, didn't seem wrong to me. I thought it was hilarious and am sure he was intended to make it funny. Personally, I don't drink though, in the end they stressed ekta and for everyone to drink cha. I guess if it's for ekta, then why not lol. Lighten up sisters/brothers.
    1 point
  23. do more bani and read stories of the Gurus, sants, and shaheeds to make yourself brave on the inside. Educate yourself on Sikhi so that you can answer your friends questions and Educate your friends. If they don`t become educated on it and show some respect and tolerance, then they are not your real friends.
    1 point
  24. or just succeed and do well. Let barking dogs continue to bark, giving jerks attention is giving them more than they deserve.
    1 point
  25. It's funny racism in Canada is hidden as opposed to US which is more open. There are many frustrated anglo saxon european whites here who let it out on internet because of hate crime laws, most of them get married late or divorced, have one or two kids if any compare to asians who is making right, left and center and working very hard to integrate the kids with the western society but at the same time not annihilate them into western culture. they even predicted here in 2020 whites will be in visible minorities in metropolitan cities like Toronto, Vancouver and Calgary.
    1 point
  26. Hukamnama should be given from Akal Takht to all Sikhs to act to stop the death sentence Panjab should be shut down - Panjab Bandh
    1 point
  27. Simply don't trust any of them. I do however generally find The Independent acceptable (mostly). Now that we've covered the inherent flaws of the national papers here in the UK, maybe we can get back to the matter at hand? lol Good to hear the committee has capitulated.
    0 points
  28. Anyone who preoccupies themselves with vilifying and constantly lamenting foreigners are right wing to me. Maybe not to the extent of the BNP, but they are barking up up similar trees. One just has more teeth/bite than the other. The middle classes being averse to actually engaging in violence themselves, instead help create the very atmosphere that fosters hate and resentment with their vitriol, which the proletariat act on. You call that Daily Mail coverage balanced. You're having a larf. Look at how they jump straight into the usual vocabulary if 'militant' 'extreme' blah blah blah despit
    0 points
  29. Just so people know. The Daily Mail (also affectionately known as the 'Daily Hate') is a right wing, WASPcentric, anti foreigner newspaper which is surprisingly popular in Britain. It's like an educated, angry, frustrated (mainly at foreigners and the demise of the British empire) Anglo-Saxon's publication of choice.
    0 points
  30. singhfauja you have mentioned relating side issues, im just stating the obvious. Where did the 'nang' fauj come into it? FYI I do not know where the woman goes and who she visits either. :rolleyes2: lol, what a way to sideline the issue. I couldn't give a flying EFF about them two things either jee. Try mentioning a few more conspiracies maybe, lol? Do you blindly follow panthic.org, work for them or a part of the 'JATHA' or something that you don't allow yourself to see the point that was made? :nono: Goli Maro, think what you want jee but there is more to that video then is being shown.
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  32. How much more discussion can you have when they're having a nach tapp in the hall. discussions went on for a full month and media raised it on tv and radio. how much more discussion do you want.....
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  33. You obviously didnt have the balls to come down yourself, what this news tells us is that violence solved this issue today, not peace. sometimes the ideal way doesnt work and the victory needs to be forced. Thank god for the singhs that went down today and showed force.
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  34. Yes, Baba "GoliMaro" jee, You are right, while her dear guru was hanging around with theses babays, the Sadhvi must have been visiting her Durga worshiping UK Nangs. I assume you think the Apollo moon landing video is also fake, and Bin Laden is still alive.
    0 points
  35. Panthic.org state this on their site 1) "London, UK - In a newly released video, the notorious Hindu Sadhvi Rithambhrai, who leads VHP's Army of Durga, and vows that those minorities that challenge the unity of Hindustan will be crushed and killed like dogs is seen in sangat of several Sikh parchariks before a Havan is performed at that residence." This as already mentioned cannot be the case as their is no concrete footage showing this. 2) "It is assumed that this video was recorded on the same day when the Havan and Aartee occurred - although it is not known whether Baba Randhavewal
    0 points
  36. The video has been manipulated. Someone took two separate videos and tried to present them as one.
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  37. Its not practical . The man cannot even stand with that thing on his head . He needs support , So how he will fight in war wearing that ...
    -1 points
  38. "GoliMaro" jee, There is more than what meets the eye in both of those videos. I would not be too hasty and blame things on video manipulation. I assume more videos will be coming out from both sides of this controversy and so will the skeletons in their closets. This was not a 10 minute event, as Panthic.org states, the videos clips were recorded during different times at the nimala home and everyone was present there. I see the guru of the sadhvi you called a 'nutcase woman' clearly sitting next to the Sikh babas. This swami guru guy seems to be with her everywhere, he is in many of
    -1 points
  39. Pal, I understand that but as protesters there it should have been very peaceful for it to have been effective. This is my opinion of an ideal protest. This was a protest against Rochester NY Gurudwara that banned the Kirpan: I know the majority of the protesters were peaceful and would condemn the actions of the small few that did turn violent. Not good. What is CCTV footage? I'm from the USA so i am not familiar with it.
    -1 points
  40. It seems the story has SEVERELY been inaccurately and reported in a single sided manner. EVERYONE WHO ATTENDED POST ON THE DUDLEY NEWS AND VOICE YOUR CONCERNS HOW THEY ARE ABUSING THEIR JOURNALISM AND MEDIA POWER IN THE COMMENTS BOX. They have a comment box in the article, everyone voice your opinions how they are trying to defame and mislabel a community. This seems like a clear case of defamation: libel and slander.
    -1 points
  41. Or even Orwell's 1984. :eyeroll:
    -1 points
  42. An alternative reading could be that those monay/sehajdharis that are genuinely interested in their faith and keep it alive through learning Gurmukhi/prayer/Sikh itihaas etc. may produce the environment from which some of their family commit a stage further and become Amritdhari? You talk about the label of extreme, I remember only a short while ago when monay SP types were the ones being labeled as 'extreme' for their beliefs/action/behaviour by some of the more flaccid Amritdhari brothers. I just hope brothers can get physical (when it is needed) with outsiders too, and not only show 'bra
    -1 points
  43. Sangat Television was there to cover. I did see the Sikh TV microphones aswell.
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  44. No one is telling people to jump to violence without cause or provocation.
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  45. Just because someone manages to pick up the language of the country they've spent most of their life in, above the level of your average Sun reading, semi literate ape, doesn't necessarily make them a 'literary type' in my eyes. I just simply tried to set enough standards for myself, so that I had at least a half decent ability to communicate in writing. Nothing else. The Daily [Hateful] Rant has a long history of expressing matters with a particular....erm....shall we say 'slant', that leaves one with the impression that the average reader and indeed the publishers themselves, still hanker
    -1 points


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