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Thats what many people were saying. They were also saying Dadu tried to emulate Baba Ranjit Singh Ji but failed to attract a following so used the Sirsa thing for publicity and do work for BAdal as he had lost Sirsa pakhandis vote in the Malwa, also they said if he was so anti beadbi then why did he do nothing when his own appointed people undertook beadbi in an Akal Academy (Boru Sahib) in Ratia. I always thought he was ok but having seen seen what has transpired over the last week or so and his alliance with Dhumma I am having second thoughts about his integrity etc. I am also now beginning to think that the whole sirsa pakhandi thing was engineered by Badal to get votes. Many people in Fatehabad district said to me that the sirsa pakhandi was wearing a pink dress and that was the photo that was used to impress on people that he was projecting himself as Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj. They said this a slur against Guru Ji as the Father of the Khalsa would not wear a pink dress. I think the Badals have been very clever in this whole scenario. They have used their pitoo in the Sant Samaj to try and influence voters and destory the pakhandis votebank in the Malwa. This does not excuse the killings of Singh by the pakhandis followers but we need to rise above this and see through Badals media spin. Also with regards to Dhumma, he is also very friendly with Sarna. A few years ago when Sarna was summoned to the Akal Takht it was Dhumma who was making statements in favour of Sarna and if my memory serves me correctly he accompanied Sarna to the Akal Takht.

^^ That’s all very well to have new initiatives for Asian youngsters to get into football and Asian kids may have better chance in today’s society then they did 10 -15 years ago. But do the majority of English white males want to go to the grounds and cheer on a 'Paki'. we brown people are the trational enemy of the working class white man. Their only escape from us brownies is at a football match where they don’t mind cheering on any person along as he isn’t south Asian brownie, Especially from Britain. I was a very talented footballer myself. The last thing the white English man wants to do is see a brownie in his teams shirt. They have a deep hatred for us. personally if I made it in football. i would go to Italy or Spain to play. Where people don’t hold onto their predijuce against us and stereo type us. As being smelly, curry munchers, not good at sports ect. British blacks are not seen as a threat to the white man. They love black people but they hate the Asians generally. These are the working class types though. your probably another asian who thinks he's black by the look of your name. why dont you do us a little hammertime dance?? lol

The jathebandiyan and sangat tv started all of this. If they didn't agree they should have stayed quiet. Instead sangat tv initiated the fight by doing shows hosted by Rana slandering sikh channel. Sikh channel had to defend itself against these attacks from sangat tv. I have no affiliation with any channel but if sangat tv had stayed quiet this problem would not have arisen. Both channels are guilty of name-calling/slander. Anger boiled over on both sides and unfortunately a huge spit has emerged. I hope that this split is temporary and not permanent.

I don't understand how Sikh Channel are spreading hatred. Their focus seems to have been on Dastar Day. If members of Sangat don't agree, they do not need to support or attend. One thing it has brought to light is that Sikhs should only support one jathebandi, the Khalsa Panth.

How has the Sant Samaj kept the enemy at bay when they are the enemy of the Panth. I usually agree with your post, but this post misses the purpose of calling a spade a spade. Sarna is an atheist, Sant Samaj are Brahmin followers, who do you pick here? Neither! Sant Hari Singh is respected, but seeing him standing along side the enemy of the Panth makes you think, what his true intentions are here. It would be different if Sant Hari Singh was sitting in a diwan and Dhumma was sitting close by. Or if the picture was taken couple years back, but the bright smiles on their face shows they are happy to have the devil Badal control Sri Akal Takht Sahib. How many smiles did the Panthic Jathas share with the enemies back in 1984? Sant Hari Singh has a lot of explaining to do here. Hes held in high regards, but this display of his, is looking as if hes bending his knees in Badals direction.

STRAIGHT AND SIMPLE - SO any body pasing by who doesn't knows the CAUSE (or doesn't even know what a SIKH is), can GOOGLE the Keywords and find more details. "1984 SIKH GENOCIDE IN INDIA" "30,000 INNOCENT SIKHS BURNT ALIVE IN JUST 3 DAYS BY RULING GOVERNMENT" "PUTTING TYRES IN SIKHS NECK, LITTING FIRE" "BURNT THEIR HOUSES, LOOTED THEIR PROPERTIES" "NO JUSTICE SO FAR, No SINGLE POLITICIAN/OFFICER BROUGHT TO JUSTICE" "SIKHS DON't HAVE GAS & PETROL, SO THEY DON't have RIGHT TO JUSTICE"?

I would put "If not a Sikh, at least be a Human" in respect of his blatant disregard for the thousands of innocent Sikh's massacred. Another could read "Would a Jew head the Nazi Party? Then when does a 'Sikh' head the Congress Party". Controversial but accurate.

I think you are trying to move to fast to change the negativity. Rather than taking big steps take smaller steps like a journey and have breaks in between of what you like doing in your spare time which is something positive. Look at where you are now in life and where you would like to be. Once you have thought about that then you can measure the time in between and what you need to do in practice to get where yu want to be. Only positive thinking and positive peoplearound you will help you on your journey to where you want to be. Noone said life is easy but it's a challenge that's why makes it exciting and then you have to adapt to that new change. Think about what your current life does and ralise negativity it creates are you happy in that? Try writing down what you want to change and the ways in which that can help you to lead a good Sikh lifestyle. Remember we are all here because we went through 8.4 million life forms even this human life is tough can you really re live all the dukh and sukh again? a Sikh is a learner we all make mistakes but mistakes are good noone is perfect but it means we can learn from mistakes and better ourselves as individuals so that society looks at us different and recognizes oh yeah Sikhs are good people who help out anyone regardless of who or where they come from. Be strong and never let anyone take you down, change will happen over time when you soon become to realize the true clean way of life.