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  1. Jagsaw gets a bit upset when Muslims are criticised. As such nothing he says I can ever take onboard when he displays such a sense of warped myopia. He's only a few steps away from declaring we should conveniently compartmentalise into antiquity what the Mughals put us through because it was such a long time ago and we should "move on." The Indians are snakes. Devious and mealy-mouthed, with a streak of cowardice that runs through them like no other group of people on earth. But don't allow people like Jagsaw to convince you that Muslims and their fundamental creed aren't a threat to us. They're the auld enemy for Sikhs, and that will never ever be erased. I'll never forget.
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  2. It's not just sikhs that worry about islam is everyone who has these concerns because the end goal of the muslim is to take over the world. Hinduism as an ideology poses no threat to sikhs only thing they have going for them is that they are cunning, if sikh leaders could learn from past mistakes this Hindu issue would be a piece of cake. Islam however is not compatible with any other religion. It says In There scriptures that don't stop fighting until all of religion is for Allah alone. The same thing that Isis is doing right now with the be headings, looting raping and slave trading has been going on since the times of our Gurus. Radical islam is the biggest threat to the world right now they have infiltrated our countries from canada all the way to Australia. You think Isis only wants Iraq and Syria they want the west and india as well.... You might have a good opinion of Muslims based on the ppl u know but I challenge you to go to a majority muslim area and see how they give you dirty looks and have aggressive better than thou attitude
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  3. Go find yourself a better Christian to discuss things with. I bet you can't. I bet you can't find a Christian more interesting than me.
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  4. Of course Islam is a plagiarism of Judaism, the very worst bits of it. Muhammad appropriated the injunctions of Yahweh to the Israelites and twisted them in order that they should apply to Muslims - Muslims circumcise themselves because this was a condition of the covenant made between the Jews and God, in order than they should retain the Holy Land. Apparently, God reneged on this promise to his formerly chosen people and decided that his favorite place should belong to the Muslims instead. Christianity can't be called a plagiarism in the same way, since it's unlikely that the Nazarene ever meant for his following to be anything other than a Jewish sect. But Jesus was hardly this game changer that he is made out to be. His celebrated teachings were not new in the religious landscape of his time. His injunction to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (which is basically the same thing as "let he who is without sin cast the first stone) was formulated over a century before he was even born by the Babylonian Rabbi Hilel when prompted to summarize the Torah whilst standing on one leg. A form of it is also present in the Analects of Confucius. Early Christianity had just two major contributions of its own - Hell and Judgement Day. The Jewish God, as sadistic as he was, never punished anyone after death. When he was done toying with them, their suffering was over. Not until gentle Jesus meek and mild did God extend his torture of souls across all eternity. Jesus is one of the most ironic figures in human history. . Muhammad inherited this unfortunate precept from the Christians. He then infused these borrowed tenets with a homicidal vigor, and the result was Islam.
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  5. Please enlighten me oh great one, on how I am equating "chilling out" with being quiet. "chilling out" refers to everyone calming down, Eduardo's not a Sikh, he'll have different views than you. Is that what you want on this site? a lack of opinions, where we cast out anyone who doesn't agree with us or even follow our faith. You should quit being so toxic to other people, rather than answering something that makes you angry with venom, try explaining things from your point of view. No point asking MODs or Admins to ban someone for saying something controversial.
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  6. People here need to lighten up. We're all learning, living, trying to become better humans.
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  7. Well, who decides who is a Sant today? It's usually the people who are responsible for making sants. And boy do they make a hell of a lot of them. And mahapuraks. And brahmgianis too.
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  8. Health is Wealth https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pZPUJybA3fM&feature=youtu.be
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  9. Islam is nothing but an exact copy of Judaism. Lets just say for arguments sake that that there are good things in islam. I have not studied Islam so I do not know what these could be. But lets just say there maybe good aspects in their beliefs, customs and rituals. ie fasting, circumcision, halal meat. None of these are actually Islamic but Jewish. when people say they are proud to be muslim. what they are really saying is they are proud to be Jewish. but hiding behind the label of islam, the entire religion of islam is a carbon copy of Judaism. from fasting, halal meat. all come from the jewish faith. jews eat kosher and muslims are allowed to eat kosher meat . but no jew would ever touch halal meat. Muhammad basically copied everything from Judaism and called it Islam. This is why Muhammed and the muslims hated the jews its because. Muhammad loved the jews in reality as all of islam is a copy of Judaism. but Jews in the time of muhammed all rejected him as a person and as a prophet. muhammed belives in moses who is a great jewish prophet, but jews completley reject islam. Kosher meat, circumcision, fasting and virtually all beliefs in Isam are a copy from Judaism. hence when muslims say we love islam. what they dont know is that what they really mean is that they love the jewish faith. Islam is nothing but a fake copied religion. and these people are basically jews not muslims. Muhammed just copied the entire jewish faith and called it islam. all their beliefs, virtually everything in islam is the exact same as Judaism. hence islam is not a true or authentic religion but a copy of another religion. anything good in islam is in fact jewish. hence muslims cant say theey are proud to be muslim. they should really say they are proud to be jewish as this is the reality.
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  10. Please check out this Youtube link to a programme from 1988 on BBC TV's 'Network East' - discussing gang warfare in Birmingham over the sexual grooming of Sikh girls by Pakistani-Muslim gangs.............are there any brave ones amongst us nowadays who have the guts to say what these Shere Panjab members had said 23 years ago on national television ??.............month after month we hear some new court case in the UK involving gangs of Pakistani men sexually grooming underage white girls in the last few years......this clip should be shown to the UK media to demonstrate that Sikhs were combating this menace of Muslim sex gangs decades before the present day spate of grooming cases !!!
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  11. A good friend is a southall native, never really discussed in depth, but seems like relations with somalis arent exactly good.
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  12. From my own experience, the difference between Sikh females keeping uncut hair and your Somali example is nobody really "insists" Sikh females must do this or that. Are Somali girls pressured into that procedure? I really don't know enough about it to say. But in terms of Sikhs, yes, most people have an opinion about certain issues once someone has started upon the path, but there isn't that level of intense scrutiny to the point where a random member of the religious police walks up to them and makes demands or lays down ultimatums. I truly do believe it is a choice on the part of Sikh females.
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  13. Ever been to a Rehansbhai? Funnily enough, after a prolonged evening of Saas Giraas Simran and the attendant breathlessness, I literally feel kind of high. Sort of dizzy, hazy and wonderfully mellow. Before anyone jumps on my back, I'm not joking, and I'm certainly not criticizing. It's amazing. Far cheaper and far less spiritually corrosive than a drug habit too.
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  14. Question to OP: do you think the Guru is unaware of your intentions/cleverness (chaturaai)?
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  15. 'Apne' it means 'our (Sikh) people'. Sorry, it was inadvertent
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  16. I apologise too. I said a few things which were uncalled for. It was nothing personal, even if it may have seemed that way. I hold no grudges from this moment onwards. Have a nice evening, brother.
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  17. We already have such pictures in some gurdwaras...aside from causing some controversy primarily due to western media and liberal Sikhs, it doesn't do much.
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  18. Oh dear. Thats just so wrong on so many levels I don't know where to start. Anyway, the title of thread asks 'If Sikhs were Forced to marry Gay couples'. If I was absolutely forced to marry a gay, I'd probably marry Ryan Seacrest or someone but I would 100% refuse to marry a couple. Even if they tried to force me by torturing me I would say no. There's only so much abuse my backside could take and I would have to draw the line at 1. 2, I am sure, would lead to negative consequences and complications in terms of plumbing and going to the toilet etc.
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  19. It's just that I work with quite a lot of Somali women and they get you know CUT so I am a bit uber sensitive about this point at the moment but it is nice to know Sikh women grow hair because they want to and not from community pressure is all.
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  20. Maybe subconsciously you just want to beat me up.
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  21. Baba Ji used to recite the prayer called Chandi di Vaar daily, as part of his Nitnem This is a prayer composed by the tenth Guru, describing a battle between demons and the Goddess called Chandi. It is usually recited by Sikhs during war. Many a time, a question would arise in his mind as to, how many times and at what time one should recite the prayer of Chandi di Vaar? Baba Ji asked many Saints and sadhus regarding this question, but could not get a satisfactory answer. One evening, at his room in the fields, after reciting the evening prayer of Rehras, Baba Ji went on to recite the prayer of Chandi di Vaar. After completing this prayer, he prepared to retire by saying his last prayer of Sohila. It was a moonlit night and the doors of the room in which he was sitting, were open. As he had just lain down, he noticed two men approaching at a short distance. Baba Ji thought to himself, that if these pedestrians were just travellers, he would offer them food and shelter for the night and if they were robbers, then he would challenge them in combat. No sooner had this thought entered his mind, than miraculously one of the Singh’s came beside him and grabbed his feet. The other one seized Baba Ji’s head and pinned him down onto the bed. Baba Ji used to tell us, “I was unable to move from the bed. A thought entered my mind that these two, who have moved faster than the speed of light in order to grasp me are neither robbers nor travellers. These two must be Shaheed Singhs (the immortal souls of Sikh martyrs). I began to recite the Mool mantar I had only uttered the Mool mantar twice when the Singh who held my head down, let go, followed by the second Singh who was holding my feet.” Baba Ji got up and the Shaheed Singh explained, “We did not come here to fight with or seize you, but to answer your question, regarding the correct time to recite the prayer of Chandi di Vaar. As you thought about offering us a fight, we came and immediately seized you, as we did.” The Shaheed Singh continued, “If you start reciting the prayer of Chandi di Vaar after sunset then, one must keep reciting it 64 continuously through the night until dawn. Two or more Singhs may take turns to recite this prayer through the night, it is all right to do so. One must sit upon a clean mat or bed, bathing before reciting the prayer. An oil lamp lit with clarified butter should be kept alight throughout the night. During the day, one can recite Chandi di Vaar as many times as one wants. There is no specific practice to reciting the prayer except that one reads the prayer with devotion and understanding.” After explaining these instructions, the Singh’s disappeared through the doors towards the direction they came from.
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  22. In short,.because they are all "glory supporters" a lot of older generation Indians/punjabis are Liverpool fans because when they came to the UK in the 70's Liverpool were the most succesful club in England in terms of trophies and winning things. So the easy thing tio do is associate yoursef with the popular club thats winning things. Later on as years went by the Manchester United glory supporter generation came about when the balance of power swung from liverpool to Manchester United. More recently you will have noticed the growth in Chelsea supporters. It's the same concept these are not true football fans.
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  23. As a fan of Japanese culture (mainly their novels,manga and anime) I can safety say that Okatu are frowned upon in general. Their culture is broad but Hentai is pretty much porn to them. It's a thriving industry there though, just like adult films are here. Though in many manga/anime there are those small sexual jokes but the most masterpiece ones which are considered works of art are devoid of this kind of humor.
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  24. Jagsaw is the same dude who said he enjoyed Pakistani hospitality in Pakistani Punjab. The same country Pakistan that did the 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs. The 1947 Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs that was twenty times worse in terms of the impact it had on Sikhs compared to the Congress Genocide of the 1980's but to Jagsaw Khan none of that mattered while he enjoyed himself in Pakistan. So if anybody has a memory problem its Jagsaw (formerly known as West London Khan on this site) when he previously defended Pakistani pedophile groomers that were targetting Sikh girls in the 21st century + he works hard to erase the memory of the 1947 Genocide, so that more Sikhs can visit Pakistan like Jews visit Auschwitz + Belsen. But none of that matters to Jagsaw as the Pakistani High Commission pay him a couple of Pakistani rupees to be their official mouthpiece on this site. He attacks+blames all Hindu's as a collective as he doesn't want them to become Sikh.
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  25. Ok for the avoidance of doubt I will state that I live in the south east of England.
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  26. You didn't eduardo. That Sutton Hoo helmet that used to be featured in your avatar probably gave him this idea.
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  27. Could someone please point me to the post I made stating I am from scandanvia and I am a viking.
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  28. what exactly does that have to do with the hostility I sensed coming from you? Why exactly are you bring that up when I was addressing something completely different. The whole concept of "Chilling out" is to remain calm. If you don't carry out actions in a calm manner how exactly are you going to get by in life? My mistake I mis-read. That sounds like a very hostile response so I felt the urge to comment on it. On the internet no one is who they say they are. You'd be naive to think anyone was, heck I might actually be some really bored Caucasian kid who suddenly decided to join a site to peeve of people. The world may never know. Our origins shouldn't matter no :strong:
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  29. I sympathise with your situation and I know there are a lot of hypocritical singhs out there but I just can’t understand why you would want to change yourself to please them? And it would seem hypocritical for yourself to pass on sikhi values to your child if you remove your hair because you gave up and didn’t hold onto your sikhi values and beliefs. Personally, I would rather live a single life than to ruin my life by marrying a horrible person. You would have to live with this person for the rest of your life and not only that, you would end up associating yourself with this kind of person again in your next life because you built karma with them. I think you would be better of adopting a child because not only can you hold onto and pass on sikhi values to the child but you will give love to a child that does not already have a parent.
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  30. VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH Most of you must be from the UK, where the system of religious marriage and a registered civil (legally recognized marriage) are intertwined. The Supreme Court decision impacts civil marriage and recognition of same gender marriage. It does not obligate any religious group to perform any marriage ceremony for same gender marriages. There is separation of church and state here and no such obligation is present on any religious group to perform religious marriages for same gender couples. It requires that the law recognize same gender marriages. The implications relate to health care, taxes and other legal matters in which having same gender marriages impart many legal benefits that were not available before.
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  31. Mixed mate thoroughly mixed with all sorts, as we all are, but proud to have Nordic in me. Nice strong Genes and great for combatting the cold weather.
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  32. I am cool, 100% genuine. :smile2: Just chatting to be honest, nice place to share ideas.
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  33. Yo chill...Eduardo is cool
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  34. There's nothing wrong with the pictures our Gurudwara's are also meant to be centers of learning. History is very rarely modern, our History is our heritage and usually it has pictures from key moments in it. It's sort of like our stained glass windows that many churches have.
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  35. There's just one thing I don't understand here: Now, OK, Islam took most of it's stuff from Judaism and Jesus was a Jew and his followers (the nazerine sect of judaism) only created a new religion (centuries after his death) in order to keep their homes and lives at the time of the jewish expulsion from Jeruselum. I understand all that. But so what ? You see what I don't understand is why we have a fixation with Islam and Muslims when Hindus occupy us, Hindus arrest us at will, Hindus torture us at will, Hindus hang us at will, Hindus regularly go on massacre sprees against us, it was Hindus who, last year 2014, in Gurdaspur during the Rajoana protests, dragged us out of buses and pulled our hair out, Hindus who have us as their national joke....and yet here we are again with yet another thread about Muslims !! :wow:
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  36. But as far as our relationship with Jews go it is that we have both been huge victims of Islam so I guess it is this fact and shared history that draws us together. Conspiracy theories abound but I think that is the heart of the issue. And of course WW2 and the cascading blood of six million innocent souls sent to all eternity by the Fascist regime of Germany. Our finest hour indeed.
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  37. Everything is waheguru's will. Nothing can exist outside of his will, that's something that was highlighted to us, I never understood how things like being gay or transgender or anything is something he didn't will for the person. Maybe it's a test, maybe it's a blessing, I have no idea. Yeah I don't understand free will as well, it's really a paradox for me but then again I over-complicate things. So basically you're arguing that it's against Sikhism. if it was then why wouldn't Guru-Sahib forbid it outright in Gurbani? Gay lifestyle is all kaam? you sound like the sort of person that's never spoken to a gay person let alone ask them about their lifestyles. Let me help you shed some light on it. They have to deal with discrimination, hatred, glares, in some cases death threats. Some of them are killed because of the fact that they can't help but be who they are. Do you honestly think that they don't want be like everyone else? do you really think they want to suffer like that? A tranny is a direct rebellion to waheguru's will? are you saying that we, humans, are capable of rebelling against waheguru? the omnipotent,omniscience and omnipresent lord who created the universe? By your logic you're implying that we're capable of defying his will? Our physical appearance or even our sexual orientation has little to zero development on how we expand spiritually. Our Souls are gender-less, it''s our deeds that define us, not who we're born as. Gays fall for someone of their same gender the same way heterosexual people fall for someone of the opposite sex. By that logic all their lifestyles are kaam.
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  38. They have created a huge world wide cult following, both of them. It's actually quite dangerous but Jesus cult followers tend to hero worship to beyond stupidity at worst and at best sing a great song in the Choir. Mohammed cult followers tend to kill people. That's all I'm saying.
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  39. Thats was muhammads trick. He basicialy thought how can I gain followers? so he thought why dont I just pretend I am the third in triology of the religions. he didnt come up with any new beliefs or ideas. he just took everything from Judaism and and added a few arabic traditions. how can muhammad have any credibility when he says that Moses who was the jewish prophet is a true prophet from god. yet the jews dont even recognize muhammad as being anything special and completely reject islam and all of its beliefs. when muslims say their religion has all the answers. indeed anything good in islam is the hard work of the jews. any philophies or ideas are jewish not islamic. muslims are completely fake and deluded people. not eating pork comes from Judaism kosher meat/halal meat comes from Judaism fasting comes from judasuim circumcisions come from Judaism and countless other beliefs. infact all their fundamental beliefs are Jewish in origin. Muslims are just wannabe jews. all their main beliefs are Jewish.
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  40. Look think it about it this way. Jews said they are the only group with direct access to God. Jesus said we all have access to God, just follow my example and you'll be OK. Mohammed said only Muslims have access to God and forget about the new testament, it's strictly old Skool eye for an eye and do as I say not as I do. Basically he said fk this new age love up Jesus bullsh1t lets get down to some serious warring in the name of religion, oh and by the way, we are also going to claim Jesus as our own. All you dumb @ss Christians have been duped all these years, Mohammed is the real true Prophet of God. So yeah what it all boils down to is Jesus or Mohammed and the Jews are still waiting for their Messiah who hasn't actually arrived yet.
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  41. I am saying this to educate Sikhs so they can answer back to any muslims if they get into a debate with a muslim. Not all Sikhs know about this. many Muslims like to feel all superior and brag about their religion. The fact is that they have nothing to brag about. they are basically following the jewish faith and labeling it as Islam. hence anything good In Islam comes from the jewish faith. They do not have an authentic and true religion. 99% of Islam is a copy of Judaism. the strange fact is Muslims reagrd jews as people of the book. but jews completley reject islam and Muhammaed as being a prophet. But Muslims regard Judasiom as a true religion and belive Moses(Jewish prophet) as being a true prophet from God. Kosher meat means slitting the throat of the animal and draining the blood. Halal is the exact same thing. Circumcion is a jewish belief and muslims practice the same. same as fasting. Jews belive in fasting and muslims copied this also. Islam is a fake imitation of Judaism. Muslims have nothing to be proud of accept for their fals prophet muhammed copying everything from the judasim and calling it islam.
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  42. This is how the abrahamic religons are god revealed himself to Abraham then came the Jewish religion after that Christianity and Islam is supposed to the finalization of Abrahams original religion which was lost. There are a lot of similarities between Islam and Judaism some difference I can think of are Judaism keeps itself to its own ppl the Jews don't BELIVE in converting others. Another key difference is that Muslims and Christians belive in Jesus who the Jews consider a false prophet. Christians and Muslims disagree on the status of Jesus. Christians BELIVE that Jesus was god's spirit in human for, well Muslims think that's blasphemy and revere jesus as a prophet. After jesus the prophet Muhammad comes and says that the angel Gabriel revealed to him the final message and lost religion of Abraham. As for the Jew vs muslim hate Muslims are considered the sons of ismael who was Abrahams first son and the Jews are considered the children of Isaac Abrahams second child as Muhammad and Moses trace there lineage to this two figures .
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  43. im opposed to gay anand karaj full stop. A dont get me wrong I dont judge homosexuals engaged in sex or not.. I see/treat them the same as a heteros. But I believe the anand karaj has only been approved by guru sahibs for a hetero union.
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  44. I am kind of tired of female centred Asian female oppressed, evil male patriarch, forced arranged marriage, fall in love with non Asian person, sympathised by gay best friend storyline. But I guess it fits in with the lefty/liberal/luvvy agenda. I like to see something fresh from Asian writers without having to resort to same old clichés. Let's have a male centred story where the Asian male is being molly coddled by his manipulative conniving mother and being bullied by his man hating lesbian sister where he strives to regain his masculinity of which his cuckold beta male father is unable to provide.
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  45. Sorry to go off mark but when it comes to groups like ISIS many Muslims tend to use the blame card and say 'they are trained by Mossad/CIA' or 'ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.' The truth is that ISIS is a home grown problem who draw their inspiration and precedent from the days of their Prophet and the Quran/Hadiths. Unfortunately many Muslims today will jump head over heals to protest about Palestine but stay silent in the face of mass atrocities by jihadists. David Cameron recently said that elements of the UK Muslim community need to stop silently condoning ISIS and more action needs to be taken by them as a whole, and he was accused of Islamophobia!? What a joke.
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  46. ok if hens and roosters are kept seperate then the egg is not fertilised, to make it very simple if men and women are kept away women wont have babies! yes indeed you could be depriving the hen/rooster of meeting their one true love, but for me forcing a cow to stay away from its children not feed them etc is worse
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  47. Just yesterday on my visit to a Gurdwara in Dubai, I found out that the Government of the United Arab Emirates has made a provision for Sikhs to carry the kirpan. I am attaching a scanned version of an identity card a Singh gave me yesterday. Now I am not really sure how much authority such a card has here, but it has the authorization from the Consulate General of India in Dubai, and this ID card is given free to all who take Amrit over here. The date says October 27, 1986. The matter is written out in Arabic as well for Arab policemen to read it, in case they pull over a Singh wearing the kirpan. However, the kirpan is worn under the clothes and kept concealed. Nonetheless, there is a law that allows it. I was wondering, if Islamic countries like this one can make such provisions, why don’t western countries take such a step like issuing ID cards?
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