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Bro I totally get what you mean about AKJ and their DS anti stance but Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji wrote many articles defending Dasam. He even constructed research into it and explained many terms in it. AKJ now is a total Joke and Bhai Sahib Ji's hard work seems to have fallen on death ears after it was hijacked. Bhai Sahib did immense seva for the Panth, as did all the mahapurkh. I can tell by your response you don't seem to like the concept of forming Jatha, I may be assuming here. Nothing wrong there though. If you get a moment I'd suggest reading this, really enlightened me (not saying you're unwise on the topic but its regarding Bhai Sahib's work toward Dasam Bani). http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=389:2011-03-16-10-30-15&catid=35&Itemid=64

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What is interesting about this article is that it tends to be educated Muslim women that consider marrying non muslim men. I think men and women marry for different reasons and Islam or no Islam, muslim women are still women and will marry for female reasons. The more educated a woman is, the standard and caliber of partner will be far higher. With these women, it seems the muslim male is not good enough for them.

Check this article and video out, it says 22,000 muslims have married out of their religion in uk, this was in 2012. http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2012/12/2012122795639455824.html

Vaheguru and Gurbani are beant.....

Totally agree there, Gyani Kulwant Singh Ji made an excellent point that if Guru Sahib had graced Europe as his point of descent into the world, we would most likely have references to moses, Jesus Christ etc, probably even the Greek Gods like Zeus, Athena, Hera etc too. Context is so important, that's why we should try and gain as much Santhiya as possible, the amount of double meanings in some words is amazing (not in a bad way obviously) but they can pretty much open your eyes.

I have never understood why sikhs care about increasing numbers; sikhs should be more concerned about strengthening their sikhi. I've always believed that amrit should not be easily given to anyone because that is why you get people that are only sikhs by appearance. Even those "sikhs" mentioned that go around beating others are failures themselves.

@Thanatos@Preeet A polite request, please do not be overly rigid or black and white in your interpretations. The word worship in a western sense is quite narrow whereas from an Indic viewpoint it has numerous meanings. An act a follower of an Eastern school of thought does would easily be considered as worship by western/orientalist standards, where as the follower them self would not consider it worship, by their own standards. Thanatos Ji I understand the respect you have for Sants...I also see you have quoted Bhai Randhir Singh; AKJ aren’t exactly lovers of DG so I wouldn’t be too quick to quote them. And we shouldn’t be saying who is or isn’t a fully fledged GurSikh, thats not really up to us. With this kind of thinking you would be marginalising a large number of Sikhs, especially those from traditional Sampardas. Preet, I must say your Jai Mata Di comment is rather silly. Jai Mata Di exclusively refers to the physical manifestations of Devi by those who use this greeting, not the Jag Mata referred to in Bani. Thanatos you seem to have a great aversion to Devi/Devte whereas Preet you seem to have a great affinity. Find some middle ground. E.g. Please contemplate what you would do if Sri Krishan Ji Bhagwan graced you with their Darshan? Would you show them the front door or become their Bhagat for life? Hint: The answer is neither but try and contemplate it optimistically and you’ll have your answer. Vaheguru.

its more about exoticism and turning guys into fetishes

Bhai Harjinder Singh shabad kirtan Darshan Dekh jeeva Gur tera. A Shabad of utmost love and devotion, between a sikh and Guru Jee. Sat Sree Akal.

Very few people care about the valid point you're highlighting, Jagsaw Singh. An 800 page book could be written on the subject. It's possibly the one aspect of contemporary orthodox Sikhi that concerns me more than anything else, yet nobody - certainly not the preaching hierarchy - will ever discuss it, because i believe it might be misinterpreted as an attack on Gursikhi itself. Unfortunately, this silence will contribute to the further devolving of the Sikh faith into exactly the type of religion that the founders of Sikhi denounced so harshly.

Guest Anonymous jee, first of all, please remove the idea from your mind that God punishes. Wahiguru is an infinite ocean of daya meher, prem, pyaar. He can never judge nor punish anyone, that is not His role. It is our agaynta which makes us think so. Just think, if He were to judge and punish anyone, which door for mercy would that jeeva go for? It is absurd, it is all bahamanvadee and manmukhs who have spread such infamy of God. The whole world is insane, talking about God, as if they knew Him personally, and then due to this agyanta, the stupids fight and kill each others, trying to impose their blind faiths over others, it is sickening to see such mental retarded people. But what else can they do? They never go through the Bani, and those who go, go through it, like swimming in a swimming pool, just on the surface; when the fact is, the Gems of Universal Truth, are got by diving deep into the Bani, means, by putting into practice what it says. Just from the starting, the Bani says: Ikoankar Satnam,Satgur Parsad, Jaap. There is only one Lord God, who is True Naam, and who is realized, by His Grace, when we do the jaap of His Naam. That is it, so simple and so straight Gurmat. Brother, do not force anything on anybody, to whom do we belong? Who belong to us? Everybody is responsible, for his/her own destiny. Be gentle and loving nevertheless with your family members, stick to the principles of Gurmat, as stated here, and if it His "Mauj", they will be attracted to Sikhee, by watching the positive changes in you. Sikhee is indeed wonderful, there is no comparison to Sikhee in the whole creation, not because I say so, but because Gurmat in the form of Gurbani, is the blessings upon us jeevas by Guru Sahiban, to attain union with Wahiguru in this very birth, if only we apply it in our lives, as a loving relationship with Him. It is not that difficult .... Just by getting admission in a well known best school, with best teachers... one does not get any type of graduation, it is only by understanding and remebering what the teachers teach, that one passes the different levels, until one reaches the highest and graduates The teachers are to guide, but just by looking at the teachers and talking about the walls of the classes or the palyground, one achieves nothing...so teachings, learning, understanding and remembering them, are the steps to graduation. And this learning each and everyone has to do it for himself or herself, no parents, no friends, nor realtives can do anything for anybody, each one is here to become a better human being, and a better soul; in short, a perfect sikh, to get union with Wahiguru Akal Purukh. We come alone, and alone we have to leave, our sole relation is with Akal Purukh alone. And, that should be our main concern, in this human life. Not that we should forget our duties, our obligations with our realtives... it is just to put forward our priorities. We can not say, I just want Wahiguru and do His bhakti, and forget everything else ... We should remeber, we have karmic adjustments to finish, if we run away from them, we will not be able to do His Bhakti either. The thing is to stay in this world but not be a part of it, to the extent, we bind ourselves in the world and get lost in it, and forget Him, or to only remember Him selfishly, in times of need or pain. Go through the Bani slowly, try to find and understand, the message what Guru Sahiban want to tell us, in each and every anmol bachans of them. God bless you. Sat Sree Akal.

CONCEPTS & ILLUSIONS : A PERSPECTIVE The most outstanding wonder of God´s creation is the human mind.... An old man describes an experience going on his mind to his grandson. "There is a terrible fight between two wolves going on in us all. One is the evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self pity, guilt, resentment, inferirity, lies, false, pride, superiority and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humilty, kindness and faith. This same fight is going within you and every other person too." The grandson thought about it and asked his grandfather, which will win? The old man simply replied: "the one you feed". The wolf we feed will determine, which wolf wins. Sat Sree Akal.

There's a considerable number of male Poles I work with, but very little, if any, of their women, but I was wondering what's the appeal for Polish women when they opt for our fresh brothers from back home. I've asked a few, and it visibly rankles them to acknowledge their own women are marrying "out." Is it a marriage of convenience, or are they dazzled by our desi bro's sparkling wit and engaging personalities?

Na hindus marry out of their dharam too, possiblymore than some of our lot. Muslims marrying out is becoming a new trend too, there was a report on bbc about it too.

Sikh Sangat Jee.....I want to ask u a question..... My Paternal Grandparents are members of AKJ and i love them. Although I am not amritdhari.....but I have great love for the AKJ members....the way they do kirtan and the way they follow Sikhi to the best That day I was talking to my grandmom....and she was telling me that she has seen Chardikala Gursikhs flying ( getting off the ground) during Smagams while doing Naam. I was kinda amused and found it really strange. She said those GurSikhs wud even reach up to ceiling. She said she has even seen Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh getting off the ground... Now although I find these things really spiritual but on other hand I find these unscientific. I don't know wat's right but I have been to many smagams but I havent seen such a thing what r ur views Sangat Jee???

Wow. Flying. Make's u wanna do it don't it? But just seeing it, i'd be in complete awe.