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Funny how when it comes to asserting our identity and attempting to improve our prospects and collective aims as a people, we get the usual suspects appealing exclusively to the egalitarian aspects of our faith to the exclusion of anything that sets us apart from those who would be content to see our gradual demise. Yet, I'm not sure conversion is the answer. But human nature being what it is, a "take it or leave it" approach is a waste of time.

If no one converted to Sikhism, there would be no Sikhs today. Aslo sometimes the plant needs watering and feeding or it will perish.

I am not comparing. We are merely spreading the beliefs of Sikhism. If Guru Nanak Dev Ji, did not want anyone to become Sikh. Then why would he have created Sikhism? Just for fun? I am sure all the Gurus would love the fact that people become true Sikhs. As I said its not about converting. Its about teaching. If people choose to become Sikh from these teachings then that can only be a good thing. There is no force or coercion. As I said if they want to become Sikh that is good, if they feel it is not for them then that is also good. It is not about disrespecting or saying other faiths are wrong. We believe our faith to be the true way. Do you think Sikh should not go out there and talk about their faith and just keep it behind closed doors for know one to know about? Do you think organisations such as basics of sikhi should he closed? When Guru Nanak went to Sri Lanka. was he not happy when many left Hinduism and became sikhs? Guru Ji went to spread the message of Sikhism. Yet according to you it was just for fun. He really wanted them to stay hindu. The truth is he was happy whatever faith they chose to be. whether they stayed hindu or became sikh. Who are you to say who has mastered and who has not? Converting others in not just a matter of doing it face to face yourself. - Ie you can help with it in all kinds of ways. Such as by donating to people like basics of sikhi who are doing the job. helping by creating websites or doing all kinds of things to help with it. Instead of just sitting on your ar$e and criticizing others. Your obviously one of them left wing Sikhs. Who would like nothing more to be celebrating christmas, eating turkey and trying to make all Sikhs like you. You need to toughen up and smell the coffee because at the moment you are comming across as panzified tree hugging Sikh. Overly westernised overly gorafied overly Christiansen overely liberalized overly muslimfied Get back to drawing another painting. I am sure you will make the world a better place with that.

'convert' is the incorrect term to use for Sikhi it is appropriate and applicable for someone else's attitude and actions (abrahamics and cults) . Parchaar is dissemination of gian/gurmat that is a non-agressive nishkam process so even at this beginning level it does not fall foul of freedom of conscience , there are no bribes/incentives beyond what that person's soul feels will come after understanding. Please STOP using this phrase when talking about sikhi ... we should ALL talk about and share our positive experiences of sikhi whilst learning more and progressing- be the best sikh you can be always guru ji'voice will win the hearts

Exactly. To many people are very touchy on the whole conversion thing. Would our ancestors have become Sikh if someone did not preach or teach to them. According to jagsaw only Guru Nanak can preach or teach and even Guru Ji was not looking to convert anyone. He just made up an entire religion for the fun of it. .

Guru ji did convert the unbelieving cynics to believers and practisers ...so yes all Guru Sahiban did this ... Guru Teg Bahadur ji gave his life for freedom of conscience and faith and against oppression of humans in that respect. Sikhi is not oppression but realisation of truth. gurbani instructs Sikhs to do abhiyaas of naam and encourage others to do the same

you obviously didn't get the memo most faiths have been convoluted, tainted, ripped aprt so the true meaning of life is lost, naam is lost, simran is frowned upon; whereas absolution of sins is carried out by another man who is just as sinful , promisary notes are bought, priests/mullahs/imams/pujaris/monks are raking in wealth whilst preaching superstition to enforce their control . worship is a pantomime and the ranks of cynics are growing day by day ... Sikhi is a deep commitment to police and discipline oneself in thought deed and word , to action Akal Purakh's love to all creation thus protecting the mute animals and nature , the oppressed and poor be grateful for every moment good or bad and remember the Beloved with single minded lovefilled focus , not just 'dil saaf houna chahida' . Gurdwarey were always referred to as Dharamshaley firstly i.e. if you go to paatshala to learn vidhiya , we go to dharam shaley to learn Dharam so it was always a teaching and learning centre

Thats why I always eat hot cross buns. Makes me remember Jesus.

they have been doing fundraising with parchaar at the peak and other efforts , the parchaar is still going on and sunday katha and they have been producing more videos on 52 hukhams apart from that they have been struggling view figures wise as people are fickle and latched on to Jugraj's personality rather than than the message ...

What do we say when we preech? Ie what are our techniques we use for persuading people that Sikhism is the right and true path? Lets face it. If we dont go out and say Sikhism is the true path. Then will anyone bother becoming Sikhs? Apart from those who are quite intellegent and enlightened who will be able to appreaciate what Sikhism is. But the average person on the street will find it difficult to comprehend the message and beauty of Sikhism. For instance muslims go around making arguements for islam and have various techniques for converting. ie they tend to say everone apart from a muslim is going to hell. Which frightens people into converting. What do Sikhs have and what can we say to get the message through of our faith. We need something that will open their eyes and make them interested in our faith and beliefs. We need need to use language and concepts that truly touch their hearts and make them connect. If we dont think our path is the truest path. will anyone else think that? We need a message that resonates with the masses. Uk is basically athiest. So we have alot of people who we could make Sikh. At the moment Sikhs basically come across as a religion and faith that does not seek or really wants anyone to become Sikh. But our converting technique needs to be good. What can we say that will get them to become Sikhs and prove to them that Sikhism is the best faith. Ie any miracles performed?

Yep I noticed that many of the latest videos have quite low view counts. Saying that I noticed many of Jugrajs videos did not get particular high viewing figures apart from a few of the very popular ones. Why does Sikhsangat not advertise the basics channel on here? To make it more popular. At least Jugraj was able to record many videos while he was still going.

On Respect: Respect is a lesson that everyone should learnRespect must be given before an expected returnRespect is something that’s given for freeRespect is about us and never about meRespect is the basis on which relationships are foundedRespect is the anchor that keeps a person well groundedRespect builds the character and defines who we areRespect sets the standard and raises the barRespect is magnanimous and helps to fulfilRespect is the partner that sits with good willRespect is like honey so sweet it’s perceivedRespect a taste to savour for when it’s received by Don Wilson ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If we can not respect anotherHow can we expect them to respect usIf we can not respect someone’s beliefsHow can we expect them to respect oursIf we can not respect another’s raceHow can we expect that race to respect usIf we can not respect othersHow can we expect respect in returnEveryone expects respectNo matter who they areThe only way to gain it Is to start treating everyoneAs a friend, a brother, a sisterAs part of our extended familyNo matter what colour or creed they areOnly then you will start to getThe respect you so dearly crave by David Harris.

Happiness Happiness perhaps once had featuresOf a single, compact whole, But countless are the craving creaturesPraying God some bliss to dole.He therefore must have sadly shatteredHappiness into many a bitAnd had the pieces widely scatteredTo give all eyes a glimpse of it.So, those who wish to own a shareShould not think it strain or stressTo search around, with utmost care, Some dazzling fragments to possess.A particle here, a particle there, To your happy lot may fall; Not any time, not anywhere, can you ever find them all.However long, however far-Spreading your quest may be, Too many are, too tiny areThe splinters all for you to see.In common can you best enjoyWhatever happiness comes your way.With others if you share your joy, It well may stage a longer stay.Give your neighbour just a halfAnd see your pleasure growig double: Make your neighbour smile or laugh; You yourself with glee will bubble. by Tulsi Hanumanthu Joy And Sorrow Chapter Viii by Khalil Gibran A woman said, "Speak to us of Joy and Sorrow." And he answered: Your joy is your sorrow unmasked. And the selfsame well from which your laughter rises was oftentimes filled with your tears. And how else can it be? The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. Is not the cup that hold your wine the very cup that was burned in the potter's oven? And is not the lute that soothes your spirit, the very wood that was hollowed with knives? When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy. When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight. Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater." But I say unto you, they are inseparable. Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed. Verily you are suspended like scales between your sorrow and your joy. Only when you are empty are you at standstill and balanced. When the treasure-keeper lifts you to weigh his gold and his silver, needs must your joy or your sorrow rise or fall.

Good Idea. That is all great. Ie to set a good example. So people are impressed with Sikhs moral character ect. But we need more action. Ie Lets set up websites purely aimed at non Sikhs. Lets set up Sikh missionary and learning centres. So people can come and learn about the Sikh faith. I have already set up a Sikh missionary centre. For people to learn about the faith. I am in the process of bringing more awarness about it. Its all about action instead of words.

I think you could be refering to one of my topics here. Let me explain. So if we believe something is good and will greatly help and be beneficial to a persons life. Why not share it with the world? Is Sikhism a faith just for people who were lucky to be born into the faith and something to be kept private and not talk about it? Guru Nanak Dev Ji went to various places on earth to spread the faith. Why should we continue not to do so. Also there is a big difference when Sikhs preech to the way muslims do. Sikhs rather teach about the Sikh faith and do not criticise other faiths. We mainly concentrate on our own faith. We do not say things like ' our faith is better then yours'. Or try and come up with arguement against their faith. We also do not pressurise anyone to convert. We just teach our faith and are happy wheather someone chooses to become a sikh, stay in their faith or even if they dont have a faith.With muslims its a self reward. Convert and you get extra wine and women in heaven. Muslims and christians as we all know use all kinds of underhanded methods. They pressurise and use false deception aswell as other underhanded tactics. Theres a big difference my friend, with the Sikh way of parchaar and the muslim and christian way.

Hope Is Not Lost When the desperation hit When the people cried in the streets When everything felt at loss Hope stayed, even though fleaing would be easier When the eyes were full of tears. When kids and families were torn apart By that last desperate grasp Hope tried When all else gave up When all else backed off When people lost all they had Hope flew When they cried When the world was shocked with desperation and dispair When nothing seemed good Hope worked When those four planes crashed When the buildings fell When the lives were lost Hope was there Hope was only a tiny glimmer Hope was still there She ran to those who needed her She worked to help When all else failed Hope didn't She flew through us all Letting us know, we still had her We just needed to look hard enough Hope was there Hope remembers Jessica Millsaps

We will be banning Birthdays and Anniversaries next.

What's actually wrong with this? Why are we losing culture and tradition? No one is saying the piece of thread will protect you...what's the harm in using this day to appreciate your sister and taking out time. I do this and will continue to do so. I'm ready for the keyboard warriors

Don't touch it. Schools these days are driven by cost and go by the cheaper option. That is a big reason why Halal is pushed forward so much.

Well stop eating meat.