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All this statue knocking over and attacks on war memorials by black nationalists and far left white anarchists and antifa Marxists has triggered alot of the white ethno nationalists. In my view if you are in a country from a relative recent immigrant community it is upon you to respect the historical heritage of the native population. Even if these statues and monuments glorify villains of the past. It's not upon us to take them down thats like us going over to afghanistan and blowing up ahmed shah durrani abdali's tomb up or wazir khans masjid up although some may argue it would be justified for past historical crimes against our community.

I'm guessing a bit of both really. After analysing research from books, articles and statements. My assessment is that there was alot of players from different religious and political groups with their own agenda's. Some where already trained up Indian military R&AW agents whose mission was to spread terror within the Sikh and Hindu communities in indian punjab and some of the agents were trained to carry out attacks in pakistan in late 80s. People like the now dead sarabjit singh (a R&AW agent hindu from haryana who pretended to be a sikh separatist crossed the border and did attacks in lahore in late 80s, was eventually caught by pakistani authorities and imprisoned). I'm guessing they wanted intelligence on what pakistani ISI was up to. So having the fake khalistani's was one way of doing that getting important intelligence, disrupting and subverting the movement for Punjab's independence. We may recall how Benizair Bhutto was forced to sign an truce agreement with Rajiv gandhi to give up names and safe sanctuary of khalistani's in pakistan after these incidents. This is how arms shipping from pakistan to indian punjab gradually stopped. You had hindu punjabi extremist's who were trained by indian military dressed up to dress as Sikh separatists and did the bidding of the Indian govt terrorizing punjab and blaming it on Sikhs. There's a magazine article i read few years ago which gave away how even to this day even though on of them was a brahmin hindu he kept their dastaar and long beard because it suited him. Hindu terrorist groups like shiv sena punjab among others. Alot of people dont know their role in defaming Sikh separatists and their part in terrorist attacks in punjab. People tend to think they are a harmless group of baffons or loud mouth hindu extremists. But they are still part of the same indian security establishment who try to goad, bait and incite and criminalise Sikhs in order to defame any movement for Sikh autonomy or Independence. You had black cat indian punjab police terrorist gangs designed by avjit doval and KPS Gill creating criminal gangs like alam sena, virk sena, saini sena, etc who went around murdering and looting punjabi's pretending to be Sikh separatists. You also had genuine kharku separatists who later were caught and blackmailed to fight for indian state in-order not to have themselves and their family massacred or had naturally given up the fight to live quite life. Alot of this group of ghost indian agents are probably ones listed in the outlook magazine article who pretend to be killed in a encounter, changed their names and identities. The divide and rule policies making kharku' groups suspect, confuse, fight each and kill other rather than the indian state was probably the aim of the whole strategy. Just as they are now doing in kashmir hence why the kashmiri armed movement for independence will never work. The indian military establishment is far more ruthless and devious in a covert way than the general public think.

Another one I hate is Fakhr E Quam.

Let's be honest these people aren't pulling the statue out because they have great regard for the man, he was after all a slave trader and their actions here would be similar to if Sikhs did this to a statue of Indira Gandhi and the Hindus dived in the rescue it. The statue here represents their beliefs that the white man is superior to the black man. I can understand the outrage of black people over slavery especially after the realisation that the UK Treasury had only manged to repay the loan taken out in the early 1800s to pay the slaveowners compensation for the loss of their slaves when slavery was abolished. Imagine that, all those black people who have been paying taxes in the UK up to 2015, a part of their taxes were being used to repay the loan taken to pay compensation to those who had owned their ancestors. I don't agree with Antifa but you have to admire the way the statue was brought down sent a powerful message the white British establishment as well as the rest of British society. It reminded me of the taking down of Saddam's statue. The white British establishment has lost and you would have thought that they might have at least put up a fight. No tanks in the streets, no Boris and his Tories in the bunker fighting to the last, it has and will be a anti-climax. The demonstrators also want to bring down the statue of Cecil Rhodes because he was a colonialist and he bought areas of Southern Africa under British control. From our angle, shouldn't Sikhs also be protesting to remove the statue of Lord Dalhousie from the commonwealth office. After all he was also a colonialist and he was the one destroyed Sikh independence and from that act we have not yet recovered? He also looted the Sikh treasury and his family made money for the sale these Sikh artifacts and the have been lost to the Sikhs and are in the hands of private non-Sikh collectors.

Imagine those were brown man/ asian guys who tried do that. Would they have been given a free pass like black mobs have been given like this? The cenotaph is to the british white natives to what Gurdwara's Nishan Sahib is to the Sikhs. No Sikhs would tolerate the attacks. And so these kinda images are triggering and creating the anger in british white nationalist circles.

Bro the whole Sikh kaum been fooled over the years not thinking how far that deep rabbit hole goes. Certain jathabandi's and people within them have been covertly working with the Indian state either for a number of reasons most of them which are monetary gain or political asylum. if the Indian establishment could develop and test the hydrogen bomb under the noses of the west and put probes on moon and mars. Then creating elaborate anti-sikh terrorist schemes to attack, confuse and hoodwink Sikhs and their own general low IQ public of india with the huge extent of their power and influence is small fry. And to top it off everything is done with and without the knowledge and collusion of certain global intelligence security agencies. No government will out the war crimes of other governments intelligence agencies unless its a clear cut long term geo-political enemy and there's no economic benefit from them. So only pakistan is willing to out india's war crimes against Sikhs and kashmiris but it has hardly any credibility because its own spy agency is an overt jihad islamic terrorist funder and supporter in afghanistan and kashmir.

Would you believe me if I told you that the same force that facilitated the post-war Marxist march through academia and the media in the West (the results of which we are now beginning to see in full flow), is also responsible for the inevitable right-wing pushback that will culminate in all out race, cultural, and religious war in the next few decades?

They did put a statue of maharajah ranjit singh i think in or near lahore fort recently lol But the certain muslim extremists didnt take to kindly to it and damaged it. Lahore is the natural city of the Sikhs one day it will be a Sikh city again. Most muslims view him neutrally as the one who saved punjab from afghan invaders. Because the afghans smashed and crushed the mughul muslim empire first and did untold crazyness to their fellow muslims who happened to be punjabi. So when the mughuls were weakened the Sikhs attacked on mass took over lahore and rest of punjab and was a relief they even aided the Sikhs to prevent the afghans coming for them again. So to this day afghan pasthun's have deep hatred for pakistani muslim punjabi's and vice versa.

Alot of people on youtube been pointing that out. Many blacks been killed in much worse clear cut murder cases caught on film and nothing like this was coordinated. A white pregnant woman was shot dead this year and there was no riots or mass media campaign. Floyd and his killer were work colleagues in a club for 17years. Floyd had a big criminal record (no excuse for his murder), but he was no saint. Floyd had freemasonic ties for some strange reason. He died from cardiac arrest autopsy reports state he had taken drugs which was present in his system. When ever things like this are coordinate always look at those who fund the groups and its widely known george soros the hungerian jewish billionaire financier is funding BLM and far left organisations. Then we have Israeli Jewish zionist groups funding people like tommy robinson. So clearly some shadowy protected powers are pulling strings behind the curtains to incite violence and chaos in western society.

thats why theres this rise of white groups again i think, its quite underground atm, but if it was white people protesting we know they would of been shut down real quick especially since its quarantine. whites are getting more and more vocal about this stuff.

Exactly. The message it sends out is that the white native population is that they are now powerless to stop the tides of change against them. It also sends out the message that mob rule by certain black and far left white people is tolerated by the establishment and they are powerless or don't know how to react against the rioting black mobs complaining about racism. If the police go in too hard and they will get bashed by blacks everywhere and the by the black centric media. Go in too soft and they are seen as weak and submissive and it angers the majority white native people. It also sends out the message if the certain blacks are violent and assertive on the streets even against the authorities over practically nothing then they and those who politically fund them and shield them are the real power now. It will give strength to that feeling of oppression of the white natives in their own country. Maybe its karma for what the racist right wing white European's did in non-white lands centuries ago and still do covertly via their governments but i can guarantee by these acts are being seen as black nationalist and far left appeasement which is doing nothing but harm to social cohesion between right wing white and ethnic minority communities.

This whole thing is very fishy to me. George Floyd was arrested over a fake 20 dollar note. When do the police ever respond to such petty crime immediately? The officer pressed his knee on the back and the side of Floyd's neck, not on the windpipe. The whole incident was conveniently filmed. Floyd also has what looks to be a freemason tattoo on his chest.

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It's the symbolic nature of it. One race asserting its strength over another. Remember, this is only possible because the English police are afraid or reluctant to stop the protestors. A country not riddled by fear of offending would smash the protestors. This behaviour is being allowed to occur for various reasons. A Gandhi statue was defaced in the American protests. It's becoming common knowledge that he disliked black people. That's a win, lol.

I can't even do this and im like 50 years younger than him lol "look at that handstand man, with the hands"

Probably wont because the Congressi Indian's will cry and cause a fuss over it. Maybe this statue that should be removed as far as Indian nationalists are concerned since they consider the indian mutiny of 1857 to be the first war of independence for them. https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-m/1280/18/91/a3/66/photo0jpg.jpg

Even the greatest of Rishis who did tapasya for 1000s of years fell for their vices. he's like nope, i didn't see that, that's not my baby, i know nothing about it, take it away lol!

Lol I dnt know why that made me laugh

When i went to Baba Atal Rai tower/gurdwara near Harmandir Sahib right above the entrance to the Gurdwara there was copper carving depicting the devtas and demons churning the ocean with the snake.

Just one thing, why do we keep using words and terminology which belongs to another religion? Mard e Mujahid - a Muhjahid is an Islamic warrior who takes part in a Jihad. A Jihad is a war specifically started to defend or spread Islam. The war allows loot as well as enslavement of women and children as well as rape. WHY THE F&&& are we using these terms which are totally counter to what Santji was doing? If a western non-Sikh was to see that picture he would automatically associate Santji with ISIS or the Taliban. We are the worst at shooting ourselves in the foot. Also using terminology that is not a part of our religion and language shows lack of self confidence in our own religion and language. There are a number of terms in Punjabi that could be used to replace Mard e Mujahid.

It’s cuz SGPC is there. SGPC literally destroys sikhi. If u look at the maryada of a sevadar at darbar sahib, it’s says the sevadar needs to have a patiala shahi pagg type turban or any pointed dastar. Sevadars cannot wear gol dastars or dumallas. Sevadars have to wear a pajami with their chola, they can’t just wear only a kashera with their chola. I’m sure these people do not also allow bibis to do kirtan. In sant jis time, bibis used to be allowed to do kirtan. SGPC probably has many corrupt people as leaders. We need Budha dal, damdami taksal, tarna dal and all other jathebandis to come together to confront sgpc and to unite under one Nishan sahib

Promise us you won't change your name from Premi to Pauly.

It is best to visit. Go there with an objective mind. It is important to look from several factors: -Employment (remember that Canada likes to have something called 'Canadian Experience ', they may not recognise your qualifications and experience. You may need to re-train or go to a more junior role) -Housing (it is very expensive out there, probably more expensive than the UK) -Cost of Living (some things are more expensive there) -Schooling (if you have kids) You will have a different perspective to someone going from Punjab. Therefore your thinking is going to be more from a British perspective. There is a show on BBC called Wanted Down Under. Even though this for British Expats looking to Australia and New Zealand, there are a lot of useful pointers and you can adapt that to Canada. There is also a website called Britishexpats.com, quite useful. Also when you go out there talk to apneh who moved from the UK, that will provide the best insight. Best of Luck!