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Alcohol, tobacco - anything related to these are not good. Sikhs must stay away from them. If one drink or smoke or is Bhangi/amli then that is their choice. Finding silly little things to justify its usage in our dharam is just plain wrong. you can’t have everything. Stay in one boat.

That is how we need to think as a quam. There maybe opportunities for us and we will have to leverage our position. We could become power brokers.

But wait, I thought Sikhs are Keshdhari Hindus? They claim us when it suits them but toss us away when it doesn't.

We need to learn from history. The only countries that have successfully withstood the Muslim onslaught have been ones which have not been shy of using the same tactics that Muslim countries use in order to manage their non-Muslim populations but also sometimes outdoing the Muslims. Spain exists today because it UNDID the 800 years of Islamic rule by first forced conversions of mainly the converted former Christians and then by expelling those who wanted to remain Muslim (mainly the Arabs) to north Africa. The Spanish inquisition was only carrying out the same actions that the Muslim establishment does in Muslim countries, ie making sure that those forcibly converted remain within their new religion. Imagine if Maharaja Ranjit Singh had also done the same by expelling the Pathans, Mughals and other foreign Muslims and forcefully converting the Punjabi Muslims. Perhaps forcible conversion would have been too much but the expulsion of the foreign Muslims would have broken the back of Islam in Punjab. The mass of Punjabi Muslims mostly had only been converted a few generations earlier under Aurangzeb so like the Spanish did successfully, Maharaja Ranjit Singh could have succeeding in offering them a way back from Islam. Spain went from being a Muslim colony in Europe to being a great world power after they successfuly eliminated Islam from their country.

Sounds a bit gay, tbh. Would the husbands call each other bhaji? ??

Kulwant Marxingh, Jaswinder Stalindhu, Waljinder Luthra, Lakhbir Trotsingh.

One of the peculiar things about some of these British influences is how they try to tidy things up in their perspective. It's like one of those busy body women types who move the furniture around and rummage through your kitchen nicking your silver and also moving cups and bowls in the wrong cupboards.

China is an angry civilisation. They call themselves the 'Middle Kingdom ' as they see themselves as the centre of the world. I think from a quam point of view, we should look at their relationship with Pakistan. Pakistan has become a client state of China and I think they will use Pakistan as a way to cut India down to size. India possibly are the few threats to China in terms of influence and population size. We have seen recent conflicts with India troops along the border. But India's leadership is too chickensh1t to challenge China. Gujju Bania Marwari Chankian business know how cannot compete cunning for cunning with Confucian Sun Tzu Chinese Mercantilsm. They will sell out to their new masters. These are the same lot that were dhimmis during Mughal Rule and where the brown McCaulyite Babus during British rule. They will become the Magi Noodle eating elite. I think that if it is not for our Sikhs, India will capitulate to the Chinese.

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A middle aged sikh man was a nanaksar follower. He found getting up at amritvela very tough. Whenever he did paath, he used to feel lazy and sleepy. Sometime back, he got in touch with Budha dal and started wearing blue banaa and dumalla and suddenly all his laziness has gone away and he now easily gets up at amritvela. He says that wearing the Baana, he feels that he is protected by Satguru all the time. Dhan Satguru! Dhan Satguru da Baanaa!

Well, the Jihadis and Hindutvadis may cause of a war attrition between themselves and exhaust themselves.

There's no point in creating a Sikh state / nation where the majority population are of another religion! It would be madness. Hastily convening an empire with a majority Muslim population at the concluding end of the medieval period was unavoidable, but to knowingly enter the exact same situation centuries later with the benefit of hindsight and experience? Absolute stupidity. Ignoring reality and hoping for the best is not good enough. For a group of what are essentially cut-throat and heartless people, we seem to possess an unerring sense of fatal naivety when it comes to certain issues.

bro, anything involving multiple spouses either way is messed up and interfamilial is just yuck ...

Like you said about the Middle Kingdom, China is materializing its self perception. It has the racial and cultural homogeneity with little cause for dissent; a perfect recipe for empire. I have a feeling surrounding Asian nations will eventually eat humble pie and come into China’s clutches, no matter the support US provides. China is well positioned in Africa with loans, debt -traps, and long term resource, rare earth monopoly. Indians are risk averse people like you state. For all the sabre rattling, we know when $h!t hits the pukha, India would much rather trade in roti for noodles than face an existential crisis. In any case, a full out conflict will result in total fracturing of south asia. I’m of a conflicted view in terms of what is better for our kaum. A fractured India with overlord China and henchman Pakistan, in which case our Punjab would be the area that separates Muslim unification along the Gangetic plains; or a strong united India that wishes our assimilation but provides us a better environment for success (comparatively). In either case we remain isolated, landlocked and beholden to bigger neighbors. I think our best bet is to increase our wealth inside India, remain neutral to external and internal conflicts, concentrate on saving Punjab on numerous fronts. Make less noise, get more done. Wait for our time.

Those were practical and wise choices in that time. It allowed strong families to keep going despite losing important members. No wonder our numerical strength grew so much despite heavy losses now and then.

Had the religion originated in ancient or mythical times instead of what was their contemporary era they might well have tried it.

Categorisation and organisation.

I wouldn't mind a return to the classic insignia prior to the British. But from a design perspective the puritan one is a bit all over the place. There's no symmetery or purpose to its appearance. It's a few scattered objects on a flag. The modern one is immediately recognisable, and its various constituent parts fit together symbolically and literally. YET, i think there's a charm to the old-school one. It's nice, lol.

I watched a lot of Rab C Nesbitt as a kid with "subtitles"! ??

War.There could be increasing tensions between the different countries.Then usual stuff:Humgry for power, or being the best country in the world.

A physical shop / retail will be successful in the coming times if it can offer an 'experience'. Coming out of lockdown people want experiences. Apple stores are good example, to visit one is an event in it's self. It's the 'buzz', the atmosphere in the stores that I look forward to experience again. If you're just selling products it's better to do it online. Even so, through channels like Amazon, Instagram & FB marketplace. I used to work in a retail business (office based role at the HQ) with a huge warehouse onsite. A company turning over £1M+ sales daily. They had a dedicated section in the warehouse just to fulfil Amazon orders. Everyone knows Amazon became big, but to visit a company's warehouse and see how they had to adapt to benefit from the 'amazon revolution' is really fascinating.

Here is the link, I recommend you watch it with an open mind. Just watching this now. Again I stand by my statement that Purewal hasn't a bit of common sense. Even if he is "the best astronomer ever", that doesn't give him the right to push the Panth around. Given what we are facing right now with the Farmer's Protest and other matters of our very existence and you have so many people of all jathebandis, mona/kesadhari/amritdhari even Hindus coming together and everybody who is doing or saying anything to destroy unity is not appreciated, it's as clear as day that stuff like switching up calendars is completely irrelevant to our Panth at the moment. Again, this is assuming Purewal's calendar notions are 100% correct. I would like to hear from anybody who thinks calendars is the most important issue for us right now.

Well they do say a chirri in the hand is worth two in the bushaa.

Nashe and sharab led leaders of last sikh raj away from sikhi. This is the reason we lost khalsa raj. Instead of doing sikhi parchar and history recording they were 2 husy with kaam ,nasha etc. Nasha should be outlawed in khalistan only for medicinal use or atleast in sikh holy cities. There is reports of nihang dals being bhangi/ shaheedi degh adicts. The only point of using it which is inline with sikhi is for medicine but there is much better medicines for that. No point of so called shaheedi degh in sikhi anymore. And sggs instructs against nasha.

Incidents like this make me sad https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-03-21/lions-found-dead-in-uganda-in-suspected-poisoning/100019512 Lions found dead, mutilated in Uganda in suspected poisoning Posted 9hhours ago, updated 4hhours ago These particular lions are known for their unusual ability to climb trees.( AFP: Tesni Ward/Biosphoto ) Share Six lions have been found dead and mutilated in one of Uganda's best-known national parks, with wildlife traffickers suspected of having poisoned the big cats. Key points: The park shares a border with the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and its famous Virunga National Park Lions have been killed in a number of previous similar incidents in Queen Elizabeth National Park In 2018, 11 lions, including eight cubs, were found dead of suspected poisoning The lion carcasses were found in the Queen Elizabeth National Park in the country's west with most of their body parts missing and surrounded by dead vultures, suggesting poison was at play. The Uganda Wildlife Authority (UWA) said it was "saddened" by the death of these particular lions, known for their unusual ability to climb trees in the famous reserve. An investigation has been launched, with a team at the scene working with local police to determine exactly what happened to the cats, UWA said. "Given that some of the body parts of the lions are missing, we cannot rule out illegal wildlife trafficking," UWA's communications manager Bashir Hangi said in a statement. The lion is one of the 95 mammal species at Uganda's Queen Elizabeth National Park.( ABC News: Sarah Mullins ) The park shares a border with the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) and its famous Virunga National Park, a habitat for rare mountain gorillas, where armed groups are believed to operate. In February, Italy's ambassador to the DRC was killed in an ambush close to Virunga and in April 2019 an American tourist and her guide were kidnapped for ransom in Queen Elizabeth. Lions have been killed in a number of previous suspected poisoning incidents in Queen Elizabeth. In April 2018, 11 lions, including eight cubs, were found dead of suspected poisoning. In May 2010, five lions were killed in a similar incident. Tourism is a top foreign exchange earner in Uganda, contributing almost 10 per cent of GDP and 23 per cent of total foreign exports, according to the UWA. "UWA strongly condemns the illegal killing of wildlife because it does not only impact negatively on our tourism as a country," Mr Hangi said. "But [it also impacts] revenue generation which supports conservation and community work in our protected areas." Around 20 per cent of park entry fees is given directly to communities living around Uganda's national parks to enhance local livelihoods, the UWA said. However, these communities often complain that restrictions on farming, coupled with wildlife attacks on their livestock, hinder efforts to make a living. Lions have previously been poisoned at Queen Elizabeth Park in Uganda.( ABC News: Sarah Mullins

I understand from the perspective of assets, resources, and children. But I'm an intensely protective individual. I don't want another man inside my woman even if he is my brother.

The modern view is very different from pre-British days, where is was fine for men to take more than one wife. Many Sikhs did, and it came to a stutter, when the British took over and tried to force their one man-one woman rule on their colonies. In India, the Hindus and Sikhs bought their colonial masters views wholesale, but the Muslims didn't, and resisted any changes to their religion. After 1947, Congress introduced the family law, where it was illegal to marry under 18 and a man could only have one living wife. But they made special provisions for Muslims. Quite ironic seeing as nehru saw himself as a secularist. The British also tried this marriage formula on african tribes/colonies where they met a great deal of resistance, to the point where they gave up. An old tradition that has all but disappeared from Sikhs, is that if a husband were to die, his wife would be married to a sibling closest in age, regardless of whether that sibling was married already. There were 2 resons for this. Firstly, any children would kept secure in the family unit. Secondly, if the widow were to be married to another family, she would not take any children with her, so the children would essentially lose their father AND mother, and also the cost of re-marrying the widow into another family would be borne by the husband's family, not her pre-marriage family. So, it was a good solution. Widow re-marriage was also encouraged by the Gurus. The relationship should be the same and a Sikh shouldn't end his association with his first wife, if he were to take another. Yes, because the promises are not made to each other but to the Guru. A side note: Sikh population is really dwindling in Panjab, and having multiple wives would be a great way of increasing population percentage.

Yes that is what they do. I'm surprised that they didn't try to organise SGGS ji in alphabetical order. If the Brits had it their way they would have tried to move Dashmesh Pita as the ninth guru, move Guru Tegh Bahadur Ji as the eighth guru and Guru HarKrishan as the 10th guru.

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if you are dead you will not have a say. besides many chadar marriages were not for consummation but protection

I'm not a pendu veer ji. I NEVER listen to katha vachacks. I try and read what they've read for myself. I think you have that desi/Indian disease of laziness. I share my knowledge. To the extent of translating stuff. I only do this because I hope others will become interested in source materials enough to start examining them themselves. Katha vaachaks are mainly for pendus who can't be bothered to read in my opinion. Juts are the main lazy ones who hate reading. Are you one of those?

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