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  1. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9516043/Pakistan-PM-boasts-plan-Muslim-countries-force-blasphemy-laws-West-work.html
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  2. Covid is something that certainly exists but this kind of media bull5hit doesn't help those who like to stir the pot.
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  3. I agree: Tory Party deputy chairman’s dancer-turned-barrister cousin buys 4,000-acre farm in Sierra Leone to grow and import cannabis after obtaining licence to make drug for use in medicines James Cleverly's cousin Chris is the executive chairman of Block Commodities On Wednesday it became one of few UK firms to get licence to grow cannabis Chris Cleverly told MoS that James had had no involvement in the company and had been ‘very busy with Brexit’ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6868685/Tory-Party-deputy-chairmans-cousin-buys-4-000-acre-farm-grow-import-cannabis.html
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  5. WOW you have completely lost the plot On one hand you respect and are arguing to death for the izzat of the Quran here but at the same time you have become bemukh to bani of Guru Gobind Singh Jee and say it means nothing to you because Guru jee's bani is not in line with your secular philosophy
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  6. interesting read - https://aspiringbegampuri.blogspot.com/2021/01/teachings-on-eating-maryada.html
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  7. I think most elite men of colour, regardless of race, have harems packed with White women. Most elite Africans, South Asians and Arabs fly off to Europe to party and then fly back to their countries and behave like pious men. Imran just happened to be one of them ...
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  8. the new findings go hand in hand in what Sant Gurbachan Singh Khalsa said that The Prophet stole the Quran from somebody else who had written it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3216627/Koran-Birmingham-thought-oldest-world-predate-Prophet-Muhammad-scholars-say.html#comments
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  9. I agree. It’s is brutal, health hazard and bad for environment by the American mega corporate farms. Hope is that soya based products are coming in market. People are hooking up with plant based diet giving same taste as meat.
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  10. Wouldn't put it past them. Many of the "Sikhs" today prioritize money over the panth
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  11. Here's a purported contemporary image of Sri Guru Tegh Bahadhur maharaj (the brave sword). It's from the Sikh foundation website:
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  12. Full Timeline of the Life of Guru Teg Bahadur - https://www.sikhnet.com/news/full-timeline-life-guru-teg-bahadur I know while composing this timeline it brought a certain impression in the mind, I do feel closer to Guru ji from getting into these details, I hope this effort inspires you as well. Dhan SatGuru
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  13. Poor thing. A lot of bachelors out there complaining.
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  14. Interesting thread, any new information on the manuscript?
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  15. Lust isn't a sin bro, it's a thief and an enemy. To be defeated. Then put to work. 1. Yes. You want to build your Naam up to 24 7 365. 2. No difference. Your being stolen from by Moh instead of Kaam. Those things individually will be more or less destructive than the Kaam, but not different. 3. 4. 5. Remember Vaheguru always or increasingly to always. It's a practice thing not a sin thing. 6. You want all things in your day to flow out from your praises of God. So you don't have to choose one or the other. You just weed the garden using the energy of the Naam Jaap. Or while witnessing from the Shabad while you Jaap Naam and witness the body just do the work. Kaam, Krodh, Lob, Moh, Ahankar / Haumai all the same. All gotta go. Only solution, Naam Gurbani and give up your Sis to Vaheguru Akal Purakh through the Guru Sahiban. It's not about sins though bro. It's about disciplining yourself into accord with Righteousness, and sure, you abstain from kurehits and the panj chor as that happens.
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  16. Yeah but its morally wrong. Millionaires playing cricket, teams owned by millionaires, while just across the road thousands are struggling to breath and thousands are being cremated. How is that even right?
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  17. Thanks guys ? Sounds like a lot of hassle.
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  18. oh well. Its no big deal. We know there are other faiths always lurking on this forum. Either way makes no difference. They can downvotes as much as they like, we'd still carry on talking about issues regardless whether they like it or not
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  19. Not insane. Just pure selfishness as those big owners are protecting their business interests. Most cannabis farms are owned by royalty and their associates so this is to control the amount farmers can earn and capture a growing market.
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  20. Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh Veerji, do Sarab Rog Ka Aukhad Naam.It will work.If you can't do it you can do Chaupai Sahib.It works.Just make sure you have your faith in the True Doctor. Bhul Chuk Maf
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  21. I'll be repeating things you've heard and tried I'm sure. I have people I love I can't help entirely either friend. I'm sorry you're going through this. I know it feels unbearable to everybody. Disclaimer, this includes advise for people suffering in general, not meant for Gursikhs or to be confused with Gursikhi. Without speficis it's hard to say, but heres a list of ideas bro. So much depends on what the person is into, where they are at with their mindset and ups and downs. What if any trauma they've gone through. Naam, Gurbani, Katha, Kirtan and Shastar Vidya. Ardas. Seva. When you can't help yourself it feels really good to help someone else. Especially with abused or poor kids, people with special needs or limitations etc. The innocent and broken. A pet. Caution. Sometimes the worst idea. A baby. Caution. Sometimes the worst idea. Sometimes...100 what was missing. Time in nature or out of town to decompress. Sukha. Sukha then more Sukha. Eaten as much as they want. Especially cbds. If nothing is working, I don't care what your opinion is on Sukha. Give her some cbds bro. Water, vitamins, fat, juice, water. Herbs, melatonin. Omega 3s, wheatgrass, Physical bursts of anything with rests in between. Short durations. Swimming, rock climbing, hiking. Crafts, sewing, gardening, painting, music. Roleplaying therapy or roleplaying games. Not the best in some respects, but when you have no spark to live sometimes it takes a fantasy to get going and it is known to be an effective way to look at yourself and concepts and events. Hypnosis. Psilocybin therpay. Intercession of a Sant or energy healer, laying of hands, massage, psychic healing. Acupuncture. Strong teas or yerba mate. Swings, trampolines, yoga balls, headstand, inversion tables to push blood into ischemic areas. Cut out facebook, insta, snap all that garbage. No news programming. It's a she isnt it? Like I said. This isn't Gurmat advice for Gursikhs. Bro you said you're suffering at your wits end and struggling in the human world and that is some heartfelt human advice for you bro. Hate away haters. Be sure to downvote, not comment and scurry off. Ask Guru Har Krishan to visit you and your friend.
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  22. I respect your religion as it is and you also need to respect other dharam. Sikhs are known to be very welcoming and it would be nice if folks out there stop taking advantage of that. It would be better idea if you will start your journey to find a HinduSangat forum.
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  23. he needs sewa with chapal firstly for lying and Taking Guru ji's name to do it , secondly, for twisting gurbani to suit his RSS masters : the full swaiye appears after Ram avtar gurbani : SVAIYAA Paa(n)e gahe jab té tumré tab té ko’oo aa(n)kh taré nehee aanyo. Ram rahim Puran Quran anak kahai mat eek na maneyo. Simrat shaastr badh sabh bohu bhedh kahai ham eik na janyo. Siree asipaan kripaa tumree kar(i), mai na kahyo sabh tohé bakhaanyo. (30) O God ! Since I have held your feet, none other has entered my vision; Ram, Rahim, Puranas, Quran and many others recite, but I don't believe in even one. The Simritis, Shastras and Vedas describe many mysteries, but I don't recognise even one of them; O Sword-wielder God! All this I write, with your blessings, is not what I know but what you have shown me.
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  24. Is Namdhari Baba Dalip Singh's statement correct? See this video
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  25. https://www.facebook.com/panth.pratham/photos/a.116611499936307/171879717742818/?__cft__[0]=AZVHCDN2eBVU8Xgmkg-p7uTH-1Q8iH_Ol4JHoitxxbwJuM_IrzUyuSchzt2S8MdbiP0-LGlHjCyxzpErZDh3jsMmBEQ7aa3ksKmAzZu9zuFMTfpalCa0YosJe0g5h3wNpHGdnziJTR4P1L6IZeTJZi74-2wx4ymG346uqMGHoGzByj2kQU4pQ-ZN2qQshqVgT0I&__tn__=EH-R
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  26. What these people forget to mention: ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ ॥ ਪਾਇ ਗਹੇ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਕੋਊ ਆਂਖ ਤਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਨਯੋ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਸਭੈ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਦ ਕਹੈ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਨ ਜਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਪਾਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੈ ਨ ਕਹਯੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥੮੬੩॥
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  27. they know that but they want to mislead sikhs and hindus into thinking that because Guru ji wrote on 24 avatar and Chandi somehow he is their devotee but Akbar also had an actual Ramayan written in Farsi /arabic does this mean he lost his faith and became a hindu no , it was just that like Guru ji he didn't want his people to be cap in hand in front of the Brahmins . The worse thing was RSS mahacudshi Iqbal Sio of Patna was wheeled out to back his false diatribe , this guy portrayed himself as a sikh and the Jathedar of Patna but he is a kurehiti and has been kicked out of Jathedar role a while back . The actual acting jathedar did not attend just as the jathedar of the other takhts did not.
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  28. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maratha_conquest_of_North-west_India The Marathas actually conquered Punjab at one point.
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  29. Even when apne say we saved Hinduism from going extinct is silly. It's simply not the case. Whilst we ended Islamic rule in North West India the Hindu Marathas took over the rest of India. We had no influence in central South and Eastern India. We need to stop making claims which are clearly not true.
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  30. Personally speaking I learnt as much as I could about sikhi first as a child then wondered what the other faiths offered their people in comparison e.g. Naam japna I quickly realised just how blessed and free I was as a seeker of Akal Purakh because I could see the obstacles put in the way of others searching in their paths and it made me keen to share how Akal Purakh wants us to be loved and how naam is above all ...and that is what I have done .I am still learning but I support other friends striving too on their paths. At university my group of friends was mixed in faiths but we would prepare langar veg of course eat together do charcha together then pray in our own ways together. That is what I believe life is meant to be like , all equal in love with Akal Purakh.
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  31. Please reconsider your words veer ji Bani guru , guru hai bani , vich bani amrit sare , ...Dasmesh pita ji's bani is gurbani .
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  32. Dasam Granth Bani in its current form should not be challenged - take this as a warning.
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  33. veer ji Guru Gobind SIngh ji da hukham is to learn about other peoples faiths and languages so you can understand their worldview and traditions , of course focus should always remain on Gurbani and all learned material should be judged in light of that . Khalsa are of the universe and as such accept all peoples and understand all whilst remaining niarey .
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  34. It's from the Benti Chaupai Sahib of your Dashmesh Pita. That means nothing does it? Ok then. I accept the distinction. Please tell me what is worthy of respect in that nasty book. Perhaps this bit: "Surely, those who disbelieve in our revelations, we will condemn them to the hellfire. Whenever their skins are burnt, we will give them new skins. Thus, they will suffer continuously. GOD is Almighty, Most Wise. (Surah An-Nisa, verse 56)" Or maybe this one: "Unto the male is the equivalent share of two females" (Surah 4:176) Just how do I owe unconditional respect to ^that^? I'm not enjoined to honor or tip-toe around any ideology or any set of ideas, least of all one which maintains that I am a heathen bound for the eternal fires of hell because I have faith in the True Guru rather than some desert fraud.
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  35. I know about Holland but he didn't have access to this manuscript and I am sure that he too would agree there are many errors and omissions in the history too.In fact The muslims do not like him at all since he has questioned/examined their history. I believe Hazrat Mohammed existed but earlier and lived in Petra not Mecca . Mecca was not a major trading place as it was way off the normal trade routes but now has become a super money maker for the tribals who own the land , who did not accept Islam at the time of the prophet but much much later after 3rd Caliph ...interesting that.
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  36. at the time of Uttman there were already 11 versions of the handwritten quran , however he collected ALL known writings and then compiled his quran burnt first hand sources and other versions and declared his as the true quran , my feeling is that he painted the 'Muhhamed ' of his quran in the colours of his own personal desires because historically and archaelogically speaking the early mosques all pointed to Petra not Mecca and Mohammed only had a maximum following of about 250 people after the quran was dictated (Mecca one) ...his name was not documented anywhere until after Uttman so ...one can either say Mohammed lived earlier in petra than is claimed and a fictious account is made of his life to justify the tribal ways of Arabs or The author was someone else and the Mohammed was the usurper of the message. Anyways Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru tera sabh sadka ....
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  37. Mohhamed is born 570AD had revelation around 610AD set up community in Medina in 622AD and the parchment is dated 568AD forty-two years prior to 'official' dates of Islam being revealed and founded.
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  39. most of must have heard about chamkaur sahibs jung .... one teer of dasmesh pitta bypass through at least 10 enemy warriors covered with iron shields .... before its stoped ... dasme pita can kill 10 people with 1 teer ... i have also learned that guru sahibs teer can pass through elephants .... and its not a karamat ... just shaster videya and a special kind of bow ... the kaman guru sahib use is known as 9 tanka kaman ... a 9 tanka kaman is take a long wodden rod around 7 - 9 inches thick and can be of 6 - 8 feet in height should be very solid .... oil it ... then tie 9 maan weight on both side and exactly from the center hang it ... weights pulling it down from both sides .... after few days there will be a very little bend in that wooden rod ... now tie a leather chilla over it .... thats a no tanka teer .... just imagine the muscle power of guru sahib ..... and those kind bows weighs arond 50 - 60 kg .... only guru sahib know about there shasters we can only try and find out and that may be wrong.... so forgive me.... akallllllllllll gurbar akallllllllllll
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  40. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! I looked through the history section of Niddar Singh's Shastar Vidiya website and identified the lies and mistruths I found scattered through the pages where the author misquotes bani to attempt to identify Sikhi as a subset of Hinduism. I've quoted the author in italics and my comments are below. His claims that he is the last teacher of the Akali Nihung martial art that originated with Shiva and came to the Nihangs via the Pashupati shamans, the Kapalika and Kalamukha Shiva worshippers, and the order of the Naths I've left unexamined because apart from the author's creativity and fancy there is no evidence to examine. Page 1 The 'Brahma Kavach' consists of 32 sacred names of the primordial power of 'Akal' - also known as 'Adi Deva' 'Shiv' (Shiva). Braham Kavach can be found here: http://www.manglacha...ranslation.html Akal and Shiva are completely distinct entities, and nowhere in Sri Dasam Granth is Akal equated to Shiva. Shiva like Vishnu and Brahma are destroyed by Kal. According to the ballad 'Astotar Sri Bhagauti Ji Ka', attributed to Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh, 'Adi Deva Shiv' was pleased and the dark manifestation of 'Shiv Mahakal' appeared from the fire in the form known as 'Kharag Devta' (also known as 'Assu Devta') Bhagauti Astotar can be found here: http://www.manglacharan.com/2010/01/bhagauti-astotar-paat-is-very-rare.html It's pretty clear that the Astotar says no such thing. Page 5 In northern India, in order to defend the Sanatan Hindu Dharam in the Punjab, in accordance with the need of the times, emerged Akali Guru Nanak Dev Ji (1469-1539) to stand up to 'Turk' tyranny. Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji did not emerge to defend Sanatan Hindu Dharam. This is the same propaganda used by the RSS who claim that Sikhs were created to protect Hinduism. Bhai Gurdas Ji explains the reason for Sri Guru Nanak's manifestation on earth as follows: ਣੀ ਪੁਕਾਰ ਦਾਤਾਰ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਜਗ ਮਾਹਿ ਪਠਾਇਆ || ਚਰਨ ਧੋਇ ਰਹਰਾਸਿ ਕਰਿ ਚਰਣਾਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਪੀਲਾਇਆ || ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਪੂਰਨ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਅੰਦਰ ਇਕ ਦਿਖਾਇਆ || ਚਾਰੇ ਪੈਰ ਧਰਮ ਦੇ ਚਾਰਿ ਵਰਨ ਇਕ ਵਰਨੁ ਕਰਾਇਆ || ਰਾਣਾ ਰੰਕ ਬਰਾਬਰੀ ਪੈਰੀ ਪਵਣਾ ਜਗਿ ਵਰਤਾਇਆ | ਉਲਟਾ ਖੇਲੁ ਪਿਰੰਮ ਦਾ ਪੈਰਾਂ ਉਪਰਿ ਸੀਸ ਨਿਵਾਇਆ || ਕਲਿਜੁਗ ਬਾਬੇ ਤਾਰਿਆ ਸਤਿਨਾਮੁ ਪੜ੍ਹਿ ਮੰਤ੍ਰ ਸੁਣਾਇਆ || ਕਲਿ ਤਾਰਣਿ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਆਇਆ ||੨੩|| ਵਾਰ ੧ || The Provider Lord listened to the cries, Guru Nanak descended into this world. Washing His feet and praising God, he got his Sikhs to drink the ambrosial nectar. In this Dark Age, he showed all gods to be just one. The four feet of Dharma, the four castes were converted into one. Equality of the King and beggar, he spread the custom of being humble. Reversed is the game of the beloved; the egotist high heads bowed to the feet. Baba Nanak rescued this Dark Age; read 'satnam' and recited the mantar. Guru Nanak came to redeem this Dark Age of Kaljug. Bhai Gurdas - Vaar 1 pauri 23 Page 6 Nanak, according to one 'Puratan Janamsakhi' (old biographies of the first Sikh Guru), was ushered by 'Nirankar Sadha Shiv' (the formless Eternal Shiva - granter of salvation and great preserver Maha Vishnu) into 'Sach Khand'.) The concept of 'Sadha Shiv' has been more fully explained in 'Shiva: The Wild God of Power and Ecstasy' (Wolf-Dietter Strol, Pa. 71), 'Rudra Avtar' (Dasam Guru Durbar, verse 7) and 'Sikhan di Bhagat Mala' (ed. Trilochan Singh Bedi, (Publication Bureau Punjabi University, Patiala, 1994), Pa 93). There is an attempt throughout the website to conflate the Hindu god Shiva with Akal Purakh Waheguru. Here the author claims that Guru Nanak Dev Ji was ushered into Sachkhand by an 'eternal' form of Shiva. The pankti from Sri Dasam Granth references in support of his claim from Rudra Avtar (verse 7) is as follows and says nothing about Sada Shiva: ਜਬ ਹੋਤ ਧਰਨ ਭਾਰਾ ਕਰਾਂਤ ॥ ਤਬ ਪਰਤ ਨਾਹਿ ਤਿਹ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਸਾਂਤਿ ॥ ਚਲ ਦਧ ਸਮੁੰਦ੍ਰਿ ਕਰਈ ਪੁਕਾਰ ॥ ਤਬ ਧਰਤ ਬਿਸਨ ਰੁਦ੍ਰਾਵਤਾਰ ॥੭॥ When the earth is pressed by the load of sins, then she cannot have peace in her heart. Then she goes and shouts loudly in the milk-ocean and the Rudra incarnation of Vishnu is manifested.7. The beginning of Chaubis Avatar is pretty clear on the status of the 24 Avatars not being identical to Akal Purakh Waheguru: ਜੋ ਚਉਬੀਸ ਅਵਤਾਰ ਕਹਾਏ ॥ ਤਿਨ ਭੀ ਤੁਮ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਤਨਿਕ ਨ ਪਾਏ ॥ Those who are called twenty-four incarnations; O Lord ! they even could not realise thee in a small measure; ਸਭ ਹੀ ਜਗ ਭਰਮੇ ਭਵ ਰਾਯੰ ॥ ਤਾ ਤੇ ਨਾਮ ਬਿਅੰਤ ਕਹਾਯੰ ॥੭॥ They became kings of the world and got deluded; Therefore they were called by innumerable names. In Chaupai Sahib, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji makes it even clearer that Shiva is not Akal and is not is something that is worthy of worship: ਮਹਾਂਦੇਵ ਕੌ ਕਹਤ ਸਦਾ ਸ਼ਿਵ ॥ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਕਾ ਚੀਨਤ ਨਹਿ ਭਿਵ ॥੩੯੨॥ He calls Shiva "The Eternal Lord, "but he does not know the secret of the Formless Lord.392. Page 9 The second is 'Brahm Kavach' - the warrior's eulogy to the transcendental 'Maha Vishnu'. The manifested form - 'Adi Deva Shiv'/'Mahakal' and his 'Shakti' known as 'Chandi'/'Kalika', is represented respectively by the swords 'Assu Devta'/'Kharag Devta' (twelve fist-long double edged Khanda) and a 'Talwar'. See Braham kavach translation on the link above. It says nothing about Maha Vishnu, Adi Deva Shiv/Mahakal. The author has this habit of attempting to graft Hindu ideas onto Sikh scripture for his own ends. Page 14 Even the designation 'Akal' was after all another designation of 'Shiva'. Shiva is called Akal and Sadashiv by Hindus, but Akal in Sikh scripture is an adjectival epithet of the Supreme Being who is distinct from any hindu deity. See the quotes from Sri Dasam Granth above. Page 15 The Shivite link with the Sikh martial heritage would become far clearer in the tenure of the tenth Sikh Guru - Akali Nihang Gobind Singh (1661-1708). The author makes it clear here that his agenda is to form a link between Shiva worshipping hindus and Sikhi. The author then attempts to form a link between earlier akharas of hindus who worshipped Shiva and the Khalsa Army over the next few pages and them attempts to quote Sri Dasam Granth in support of his views: Page 19 Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh personified 'Mahakaal', in the same manner as the above mentioned Shivite warrior ascetics: "In Mahakaal's hand gleams the great terrifying sword and when he walks his ankle bells jingle. He has four beautiful arms. [On his head] is a beautiful topknot. His club is of good reputation. It enamours the mind of 'Yama' (stick-wielding demigod of death). His fire-like tongue is praiseworthy. His teeth are horrifying. [At time of his attack in battle] the conch shells blow, and battle drums beat as if the ocean is roaring. The splendour of his dark complexion is a store house of praise. On his face is a large pure 'Tilak' - its brilliance is known in all for directions. Over his head hangs a shiny, white, glorious royal umbrella. On recognising the beauty of its shade, light is put to shame. The great large red eyes of 'Maharaja' (Emperor - referring to Mahakaal) look glorious. In face of their radiance the ones who adorn a necklace of rays [the Sun's] a million of them are embarrassed." ('Bachitar Natak', Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh, Dasam Guru Durbar, Part 1, Verse 31-35) The panktis from Bachitar Natak that are quoted by the author are from Sri Kal Ji Ki Ustat (Praise of Sri Kal). In this bani, the name of Mahakal is not mentioned and the author has erroneously tried to equate Sri Kal with Shiva (who the author claims is identical to Mahakal). The verses are as follows: ਰਸਾਵਲ ਛੰਦ ॥ ਤ੍ਵਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥ RASAAVAL STANZA BY THY GRACE ਚਮਕਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣੰ ॥ ਅਭੂਤੰ ਭਯਾਣੰ ॥ ਧੁਨੰ ਨੇਵਰਾਣੰ ॥ ਘੁਰੰ ਘੁੰਘਰਾਣੰ ॥੩੧॥ The sword of KAL glistens, which is Non-elemental and terrible.While moving, his anklets rattle and the small bells jingle.31. ਚਤੁਰ ਬਾਂਹ ਚਾਰੰ ॥ ਨਿਜੂਟੰ ਸੁਧਾਰੰ ॥ ਗਦਾ ਪਾਸ ਸੋਹੰ ॥ ਜਮੰ ਮਾਨ ਮੋਹੰ ॥੩੨॥ He hath four winsome arms and on his head, his long hair have been bound in a lovely knot. The mace with him appears splendid, which fascinate the honour of Yama.32. ਸੁਭੰ ਜੀਭ ਜੁਆਲੰ ॥ ਸੁ ਦਾੜ੍ਹਾ ਕਰਾਲੰ ॥ ਬਜੀ ਬੰਬ ਸੰਖੰ ॥ ਉਠੇ ਨਾਦ ਬੰਖੰ ॥੩੩॥ His tongue red like fire seems magnificent and his grinder teeth are very frightening. His conches and drums resound like the thundering sound of the sea. 33. ਸੁਭੰ ਰੂਪ ਸਿਆਮੰ ॥ ਮਹਾ ਸੋਭ ਧਾਮੰ ॥ ਛਬੇ ਚਾਰੁ ਚਿਤ੍ਰੰ ॥ ਪਰੇਅੰ ਪਵਿਤ੍ਰੰ ॥੩੪॥ His dark form looks elegant and is the abode of Great Glory. On his face there are lovely delineations, which are superbly holy. 34. ਭੁਜੰਗ ਪ੍ਰਯਾਤ ਛੰਦ ॥ BHUJANG PRAYAAT STANZA ਸਿਰੰ ਸੇਤ ਛਤ੍ਰੰ ਸੁ ਸੁਭ੍ਰੰ ਬਿਰਾਜੰ ॥ ਲਖੇ ਛੈਲ ਛਾਯਾ ਕਰੇ ਤੇਜ ਲਾਜੰ ॥ On his head there swings the beautiful, lustrous and white canopy, seeing whose shadow and considering it winsome, the light feels abashed. ਬਿਸਾਲ ਲਾਲ ਨੈਨੰ ਮਹਾਰਾਜ ਸੋਹੰ ॥ ਢਿਗੰ ਅੰਸੁਮਾਲੰ ਹਸੰ ਕੋਟਿ ਕ੍ਰੋਹੰ ॥੩੫॥ The fleshy and red eyes of the God seem magnificent, before whose light millions of suns appear irritated. 35. So where is the reference to Shiva as Mahakal in the above? The answer is that there is none. In fact, if the author has bothered to read on he would have found that Kal is distinct from Shiva. Indeed, Shiva is created and destroyed by Kal: ਸਵੈਯਾ॥ SWAYYA. ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਭਯੋ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਸੁ ਜਾਗਤ ਯਾ ਜਗ ਜਾ ਕੀ ਕਲਾ ਹੈ ॥ At the instance of KAL, Vishnu appeared, whose power is manifested through the world. ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਭਯੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਸਿਵ ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਭਯੋ ਜੁਗੀਆ ਹੈ ॥ At the instance of KAL, Brahma appeared and also at the instance of KAL the Yogi Shiva appeared. ਕਾਲ ਹੀ ਪਾਇ ਸੁਰਾਸੁਰ ਗੰਧ੍ਰਬ ਜੱਛ ਭੁਜੰਗ ਦਿਸਾ ਬਿਦਿਸਾ ਹੈ ॥ At the instance of KAL, the gods, demons, Gandharvas, Yakshas, Bhujang, directions and indications have appeared. ਔਰ ਸੁਕਾਲ ਸਭੈ ਬਸ ਕਾਲ ਕੇ ਏਕ ਹੀ ਕਾਲ ਅਕਾਲ ਸਦਾ ਹੈ ॥੮੪॥ All the other prevalent object are within KAL, only One supreme KAL is ever Timeless and eternal.84. The Tenth Guru further reinforced the 'Shiv Swaroop' amongst his Akali Nihang Singh Khalsa. He instructed his Akali Nihang warriors: "If you take the refuge of Mahakal, he will save you. If you make the worship of 'Asket' (battle standard with 'Assu'/'Kharag' upon it - the re-interpreted 'Ardhanarishvara' symbol of androgynous 'Shiv'/'Mahakaal' the Khanda) your daily practice. Then placing his hand upon you, 'Asdhuj' (ie, 'Asket') will save you." ('<a href="<banned site filter activated>/glossary_files/treh_charittar.html?width=400">Treh Charittar 404', Akali Nihang Guru Gobind Singh, Dasam Guru Durbar, Verse 366-367) Firstly, the author has placed his own comments into the translation which are not present in the original text. There is nothing in the panktis from the 404th charitar which say that Asket and Asdhuj are the "battle standard with 'Assu/Kharag' upon it - the re-interpreted 'Ardhanarishvara' symbol of androgynous 'Shiv'/'Mahakaal' the Khanda". The author, again, seems to be inserting his own pro-hindu pro-Shaivite interpretations into the bani. In Charitar 404, Kal and Mahakal are used interchangeably. They are separate and distinct from Shiva. During the war that is described in this charitar, the gods of the hindu trinity – Shiva/Mahadev, Vishnu and Brahma cower in fear: ਮਹਾਦੇਵ ਆਸਨ ਤੇ ਟਰਾ ॥ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਤ੍ਰਸਤ ਬੂਟ ਮਹਿ ਦੁਰਾ ॥ ਨਿਰਖਿ ਬਿਸਨ ਰਨ ਅਧਿਕ ਡਰਾਨਾ ॥ ਦੁਰਾ ਸਿੰਧ ਕੇ ਬੀਚ ਲਜਾਨਾ ॥੮੦॥ Mahadev (Shiva) left his throne. Brahma was afraid and hid in his lotus. Vishnu was petrified and hid under the ocean. 80. It is pretty clear that the Akal/Mahakal that Nihangs are advised to take refuge in is the same Kal who is described in Sri Kal Ji Ki Ustat and who is identified as being identical to Akal Purakh and not the hindu deity Shiva. K.
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  41. I bet Kaljug did all this on his lunch break as well. Just goes to show how an an analytical and well informed person can easily see through the junk that is all around us.
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