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My friend from Punjab who is very gurmukh has his agricultural farm in district Shahjahanpur, Uttar Pradesh. The manager at his farm is a Hindu whose wife suffered from acute depression as their younger son died in an accident. She had been going to psychiatrist for about 10 months and there was only minor improvement. My friend taught her mool mantra Sahib and she started doing it and started feeling better. Within a week, she started doing 600 mool mantra daily and within few weeks her depression got cured. She has started smiling again and has started cooking and doing her daily activities again. She has fallen in love with kirtan and whenever she gets time, she goes to the Gurdwara Sahib and listens to kirtan for hours.

5ft 8 or 5ft 9 is about right IMO. Not short short, but we aren't talking He-Man stature. But like you said, it's only apne who seem to want our Gurus to be 6ft 5, pale-skinned, hazel-eyed dazzlers.

From what I can find, it looks like Raja Suchet Singh was a Dogra from Jammu and Kashmir whose brothers were Gulab Singh and Dhian Singh.

The link is static on the sgpc site. It may auto update. If not I will, or anyone please, update it daily.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/trichotillomania/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20355193 Have you seen any medical professionals yet?

They changed these pics now

Yes could be. Dasam Patsah was small in height according to katha. The Dastaars don't look much but we should imagine Sabar, Santokh people back then who made an incredibly less fuss than nowadays.

Bump this interesting thread up.

maybe it's something to do with the inability to sweat hahahah

I think the world maybe cleaning itself. Look at how natural disasters are increasing globally due to climate change. Also, people globally are resisting and challenging inequality too. We'll possibly be living in a different world within a few generations?

Did you just write that yourself?

There's that wonderful Sikh empathy again. ? "Thank God my part of the world is safe, but that other continent that was home to 750 million people is obliterated. God truly is beautiful!" ??

A near death experience (NDE) “When I was eleven years old I had a weird experience. It was 12/03/1990 and I was coming back from school. When I reached our house in the village, I started having these weird hallucinations and I fell, hitting a rock directly on my head. I passed out. Here is where it began. I lifted out of my body and something pushed me into a weird place. It was like a magnet pushing me there. I then saw someone who was dead. My grandfather. He said, ‘To the stars’. I got pushed by that force and fell on my knees. Free of that power, I fell into a weird city that looked like a very ruined version of earth. I then noticed it was earth. But earth during World War 3. Everything was rubble but thank God, it was only in one continent that was blown up. That was Europe. I then heard voices explaining how the savior of this event will be born in 2001 on this exact date in Canada. He too would be a Sikh. I awoke in the hospital and the doctor said that I had just died and was now alive. No one believed my incident except the doctors and my family.”

For some reason, it kind of does feel like 2012 shifted/transitioned into something. Nothing feels the same from that moment on.

From Mahan Kosh:

Intelligence op for whom?

No it doesn't

Brother, you are using the Naamdharis as a source who have already been debunked. There is a whole website debunking their claims. You can literally read Sri Gur Sobha by Kavi Chandra Sain Sainapati, one of the 52 poets of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj's court poets. He details the leaving of Maharaj in Nanded. One of the brothers here provided you multiple sources yet you decide to use Naamdhari sources, same people who made Sant Baba Ram Singh, who was in fact a dedicated GurSikh, into their "Guru" during his exile and eventual death.

Correction - Just checked there is no hukamnama but Signature of Dasmesh Pita on one of the hand written pothi kept at Guru Ram Rai Darbar and some of the items shown to sangat every year during Jhanda Mela which is currently going on till 21st April.

You are joking right ? Let me tell you what else is in Guru Ram Rai darbar dehradun ... Shasters and kalgi of Guru HarGobind Sahib .... Hand written pothi of Bhai Gurdas copied from 1st Sroop of Guru Granth Sahib .... Hand written hukanama and a teer of Guru Gobind Singh given to Ram Rai and yes Kundal Dress and Joda of Guru Har Rai Sahib. Should we disown these treasures because they are with Ram Raiyas ? Do you know the Guru Granth Sahib compiled by Guru Arjun Dev is with Dhirmaliyas even today should it be disowned as well ?

He could also read SRI GUR SOBHA by Kavi Sainapati, one of the court poets of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, who literally dedicates entire sections praising Maharaj after he leaves for Sachkhand.

People forget that the Sikh kaum has our oral history that was passed down and still present within the Dal Panth. It was only because of the initiatives of Akaali Baba Rattan Singh Ji Bhangu, the grandson of Akaali Baba Mehtab Singh Ji Bhangu, with the panth parkash along with other historical texts at the time was that this stuff was documented. Think about it. The fact that people try and claim Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, the one who sacrificed his entire family for the Khalsa panth would remain hidden and leave his beloved panth without guidance is absurd. Especially considering the fact that something as important such as the passing of the Guruship wouldn't have gone unknown.

Brits medaled so hard that they made Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj the Guru? Please provide that info. If we had a living Guru we would know lol. We can look at the tension between the Tat Khalsa and Bandai Khalsa. Additionally, Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji most likely probably didn't wear earrings, but Singhs definitely did though, especially during the Sikh Raaj. Most of the pictures of the Gurus were painted amidst the Khalsa Raaj with exception to the Nanded picture that was displayed above. EDIT Forgot to add. We have some contemporary images of the Guru, particularly Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Maharaj and Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj: SatGuru Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji Maharaj. The Sixth Sovereign: SatGuru Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj. The Ninth Sovereign

Definitely. I've always thought the Mughals and the Sikhs (under Maharaja Ranjit Singh) should've been way more aware of this fact. Instead of wining and dining these Europeans under the guise of trading, etc., they should've sent their heads back to their home countries as a warning not to interfere in matters. That would've forced the Europeans' hand, and then when a hostile force would arrive by sea, the Easterners could've at least tried to destroy them before they set foot on Indian soil.

Keep in mind, this is most likely a painting of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj, however, it's not really confirmed. As the post states, we can see Guru Ji's famous blue horse on the bottom right. We can also see a kalgi on the dastar. The two men seated are depicted way bigger, a website states that Hindu paintings usually have rulers portrayed on a larger scale than their courtiers, as befits their royal stature.