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What do you guys think will be the future of india in the next few decades? The country is becoming so much worse than before and there is a mass exodus of middle class people. Seems like very bad times are ahead.

My dad's friend is a rss member and he had been trying for years to leave india and come to canada. You are mistaken if you think the right wingers are not trying to leave infact they are hypocrites who will support the same govt they escaped from once they move to a new country.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/working-abroad/how-simmarpal-singh-helped-olam-become-one-of-the-top-players-in-peanuts-in-argentina/articleshow/16700498.cms How Simmarpal Singh helped Olam become one of the top players in peanuts in Argentina Read more at:https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/nri/working-abroad/how-simmarpal-singh-helped-olam-become-one-of-the-top-players-in-peanuts-in-argentina/articleshow/16700498.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst https://www.sikhnet.com/news/meet-simmarpal-singh-peanut-prince-argentina @proudkaur21 ^worth a read

Also i hope these events that are happening open the eyes of those stupid indian Sikhs who tell us nri's about their so called brotherhood with a particular community in India.

idky but i cannot leave punjab and forget about it because to me it is the land where our gurus originated from and spread the truth. It is like a part of my soul because i associate it with our gurus and religion just like Muslims have mecca as their holy land. I think we need to be clever and think about solutions . We did it in the past and i think we can do it again but we have to have faith and determination.

Hah. No Bhenji. That's Akal's mercy on me. I looked eveywhere for the Truth before collapsing here. I only have Gurmat and the Sangat to thank for educating this wretch. We are so blessed with the amount of Sikhi available to us right now, and the ability to keep these kinds of Sangat. The Guru is still preparing me for Amrit.

Abrahamic ways are limited. It's only when the European started to take on the Eastern ways that any technological progress was made. Your Celtic people are really a Dharmic people. That is where your true roots are. The RC church does not fit well with the Irish which is why there is such vitriol against the Church in Ireland. The Irish need to come back to Dharma

I said shamefully you weak willed troll. Lol.

Enlightenment means dumping the Christian texts and then stealing Eastern knowledge and then claiming that you came to it all by yourself.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58930593 Conservative MP Sir David Amess has died after being stabbed multiple times at his constituency surgery in Essex. Police said a 25-year-old man was arrested on suspicion of murder after the attack at a church in Leigh-on-Sea. They recovered a knife and are not looking for anyone else in connection with the incident. A counter terrorism team will lead the investigation. Boris Johnson has spoken of his shock and sadness at the loss of "one of the kindest" people in politics. Home Secretary Priti Patel has asked all police forces to review security arrangements for MPs "with immediate effect", a Home Office spokesman said. Sir David, 69, had been an MP since 1983 and was married with five children. He is the second serving MP to be killed in the past five years, following the murder of Labour MP Jo Cox in 2016. She was killed outside a library in Birstall, West Yorkshire, where she was due to hold a constituency surgery. The investigation into the attack will be led by the Metropolitan Police's specialist Counter Terrorism Command, who will determine whether it was a terrorist incident. The prime minister said Sir David had an "outstanding record of passing laws to help the most vulnerable". "David was a man who believed passionately in this country and in its future. We've lost today a fine public servant and a much-loved friend and colleague," said Mr Johnson. Ms Patel said the killing "represents a senseless attack on democracy itself", adding that "questions are rightly being asked about the safety of our country's elected representatives". Sir David, who represented Southend West, was holding a constituency surgery - where voters can meet their MP and discuss concerns - at Belfairs Methodist Church in Eastwood Road North. Essex Police Chief Constable Ben-Julian Harrington said they received reports of a stabbing shortly after 12:05 BST and within minutes, officers found Sir David with multiple injuries. Police and paramedics "worked extremely hard" to save him but he died at the scene, Mr Harrington said. IMAGE SOURCE,ANTHONY FITCH Image caption,Armed police were seen outside the church where Sir David met consituents Police have appealed for anyone who saw the attack, or who has footage from CCTV, dash cams or video doorbell to contact them. Southend councillor John Lamb told the BBC that Sir David moved his surgeries to different locations around the constituency "to meet the people" and said the attack was "absolutely dreadful". "We've lost a very good, hard working constituency MP who worked for everyone," he said. Who was Sir David Amess? A Conservative backbencher for nearly forty years, Sir David entered Parliament in 1983 as the MP for Basildon. He held the seat in 1992, but switched to nearby Southend West at the 1997 election. Raised as a Roman Catholic, he was known politically as a social conservative and as a prominent campaigner against abortion and on animal welfare issues. He was also known for his championing of Southend, including a long-running campaign to win city status for the town.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-58892160 Football coach jailed for 25 years in Dubai over CBD vape oil Published 2 days ago Share IMAGE SOURCE,DETAINED IN DUBAI Image caption,Billy Hood claims he was forced to sign a confession written in Arabic despite not speaking the language A British football coach has been jailed for 25 years in Dubai after four bottles of vape liquid containing cannabis oil were found in his car. Billy Hood from Notting Hill, west London, was arrested on 31 January, shortly after moving to the country. The 24-year-old claims he was forced to sign a confession written in Arabic despite not speaking the language. The Foreign Office said it was "giving consular support to a British man who has been imprisoned" in Dubai. Mr Hood, who played semi-professional football for Kensington and Ealing Borough FC, told campaign group Detained in Dubai police had unexpectedly turned up and demanded to search his home and car. He told the group he was taken to a "police station and kept in an isolation cell for 14 days without any hygiene products". Mr Hood claimed the oil was left by a friend who had been visiting from England two weeks earlier. But he claimed he was forced to sign a confession after being pressured by local law enforcement. This month he was convicted by a court of drug trafficking with intent to supply. Vaping cannabidiol (CBD) oil is legal in the UK and has become extremely popular - typically used to relieve pain, anxiety or stress. The Foreign Office advise there is a "zero-tolerance for drugs-related offences" in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). "Forced and coerced confessions are commonplace in Dubai," said Radha Stirling, chief executive of Detained in Dubai, who are representing the family. Sentences for drug trafficking can include the death penalty and possession of even the smallest amount of illegal drugs can lead to a minimum four-year jail sentence. IMAGE SOURCE,DETAINED IN DUBAI Image caption,Billy Hood's family are appealing to the UK and UAE government to intervene In a statement to his lawyers Mr Hood said: "I have always had a zero-tolerance on any drugs or illegal substances. "For me to be accused of promoting and selling drugs in a country that has the same beliefs and values as me is very upsetting as it affects my future." Mr Hood's family are appealing to the UK and UAE government to intervene in the case. Mr Hood's mother Breda said: "I have hidden myself away, crying and crying when I imagine what our sweet boy is going through. "It is the worst stress I've ever been through and I feel helpless." The UAE embassy has been approached for comment.

Interesting. So it's almost like adhering to a public image of being seen to support your country for these types, while the reality is they don't stick around to practice what they preach.

damn even pakistan is ahead wow.

https://www.independent.co.uk/asia/india/global-hunger-index-india-rank-b1939046.html India slips out of top 100 countries on Global Hunger Index https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/india/global-hunger-index-2021-india-slips-seven-positions-to-101-lags-behind-pakistan-bangladesh-and-nepal/videoshow/87038876.cms Global Hunger Index 2021: India slips seven positions to 101, lags behind Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nepal This is the future of india ....

Left-leaning, globalist types? Because I doubt the right-wing, pro-Nationalist types are leaving. Don't think for a moment that the latter category is exclusively populated by the easily-riled, semi-literate villagers. There are many die-hard "Bharat" sorts in the celebrity class. Whether it's genuine or they're leaned on by Indian politicians and in-betweens to make their pro-Indian views public, is up for debate.

Even then, quite a few older whites who've been going Spain every years for God knows how long, want to retire there. Cheaper living, the sun, less foreigners (they have their own enclaves) etc. Whereas a working class english here will tell a spaniard to 'f**k off back your country bozo' the spanish are economically dependent on these lot, and don't tell them the same over there.

read the qt's from them lol

https://hindugenocide.com/ read the timeline about 'Khalistan' @proudkaur21 @dallysingh101 @MisterrSingh @Kaurr @GurjantGnostic @Jai Tegang!

Indeed. But we know how to stay in our house. And I think our enmity with invaders goes back to the events described by Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaja in his Bani.

Tldr version. The Irish made a huge mistake converting to catholicism. After a thousand whatever of years of fighting off the vikings, romans, and anglo saxons, we were given a chance to join christendom and be off limits too the other christian nations. Not knowing how christianity had been usurped and inverted we took to it quite dutifully with the ignorance of real believers. Only to find out the hard way we were sold into servitude and betrayed by the pope and then raped and molested in every fashion. Not having our previous traditions we were not able to fend off the wasps. The Irish color spectrum goes from black to green to orange and that bit...tsk tsk.

Your ancestors weren't angels (no one's are either) but I like to know what the history of Patrick was to convert the Irish to Christianity. What was the true story and not the propaganda.

He who controls the Land, controls the Food Production; He who controls food production, controls the Food; He who controls the Food, Controls the people. @GurjantGnostic @proudkaur21

A hindu man killed 5 sikh farmers and no outrage . But anytime a sikh does something these people seem to have alot of problem. Cowards are only in power because of the useless backstabbing British not because of their merit or strength.

Worst thing is ...its the Indian Sikhs those proud army ones who are apologizing saying it doesn't represent Sikh...blah blah.. when then ball is their hand, we should play it smart...this is why they win and how they win what will happen to the Singh..oh man..

So any hindu who might be reading this thread. why is it okay for hindus to kill minorites in the street and no one bats an eye but you have a lot of problem with sikhs solving their issue ? How many muslims did your community kill in the past few years on the basis of cow meat? Lol you all are the biggest terrorists and always act as the victim. Before the islamic invasion your upper caste people were violating lower caste people and then muslims did the same with your upper caste people but you people act like you are only the innocent victims and never the perpetrators.

I was laughing so much . They literally lynch people in the streets for eating cow meat and when one sikh does something they all show their true colors. We are not like them . The nihang didnt kill an innocent person. Remember how they demolished babri msjid and attacked muslims. They always act as the victim but they are evil af.

They will never change..have you seen what happen in Singu Border... Hindus calling us taliban isis ..it will get ugly

Well since this thread started, i never really thought about it, but you guys have really made me thinking but will buy land properties in Panjab and all other cities like Bangalore , when i am able too lol (need to make $$$ first)

You can be as advanced as a country as you want but if your food source is controlled by a few then your people are at the mercy of those few. Without food their is no life unless you want to eat your smartphones.

Globalization..really not much we can do. Also behind them are World Banks, Work trade Organizations.they are backed by them..really much we cannot do..but to rapidly build ourselves Economically Have you seen what Bill Gates is doing.....

Learn to swim with the sharks then against them..

They already taken so much, what else is left..this is the final straw? You seen now with BSF? They want to squeeze our last breathe .. I think it better if we help them escape India esp Sikhs. 1) Safer to practice Sikhi freedom speech. 2) jobs education 3) Increase population Khalsa ...build yourself economically in West more powerful .. I dont see anything for panth there unless we want more bloodshed..we cant keep rotting in jails, dying, giving our heads

Yup we need to resist these corporations as much as possible. The greed for money makes people do unimaginable things. So many of these corporations can help with world hunger but why would they ? Their goal is not to benefit humans but to squeeze us for as much profit they can make . They dont care if our planet is destroyed as long as they make money.

Idk alot about the farm laws other than the msp scandal which i fully agree will be bad for farmers as i have no trust in corporations and we all know about the law and order in india but having our land under corporations is very dangerous. Once corporations control the source of food they control us humans. I am definitely not in favor of giving so much control to corporations as we all know their main goal is to make as much profit as possible at the expense of humans but someone on twitter was saying how since alot of young people from villages in punjab are moving out of india who will do the farming back home in the future.

Yes in India, If they don't take back the laws..then why do you see happening...what ways can they be used to their benefits without losing their land?

In india, I hope so. Looking at our farming problem world wide we have to commit, even if occupied by imperial positions, to contributing to personal or communal non profit farms. Our independence and resilience relies on having food we get directly from mother earth without asking anyone.

wow lol I'm shocked. I thought you were punjabi by the way you talk since you have so much knowledge.

@Jai Tegang! Do you see any loopholes with farm laws? If they don't take back the laws, can there be a way to outsmart them and gain for the farmers?

you are irish?

London attracts more people than Birmingham. It’s the capital.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-58910794 A deadly bow and arrow attack in Norway which left five people dead appears to have been an act of terror, Norway's security service (PST) said. However a motive has not yet been determined. The suspect, a 37-year-old Danish citizen, had converted to Islam and there were fears he had been radicalised, police say. He is accused of killing four women and a man on Wednesday night in the southern town of Kongsberg. Residents have been deeply shaken by the violence. Flags were flown at half-mast on Thursday while flowers and other memorials were placed in Kongsberg's main square. The victims were all aged between 50 and 70, regional police chief Ole Bredrup Saeverud told reporters at a Thursday morning news briefing. Norway country profile The attack was first reported at 18:12 (16:12 GMT) on Wednesday. Police confronted the man six minutes later, but he shot several arrows at them and escaped. He was eventually caught about 30 minutes later. It was during this time, between being first approached and then arrested, that the victims were killed, the police chief said. A woman was also stabbed at a nearby intersection, witnesses told local media. The suspect has been named as Espen Andersen Brathen. Police fired warning shots when he was eventually arrested, but it is not clear if officers were armed when they first came across the suspect. Norwegian police do not usually carry guns on them - weapons are stored at police stations or in their patrol cars. The attack was Norway's deadliest since far-right extremist Anders Behring Breivik murdered 77 people, most of them teenagers, on the island of Utoya in July 2011. 'People ran for their lives' The attacker allegedly launched the assault inside a Coop Extra supermarket on Kongsberg's west side. One of those injured was an off-duty police officer who was in the shop at the time. The officer and another person who was wounded are recovering in hospital with non-life-threatening injuries. One witness told local outlet TV2 she had heard a commotion and saw a woman taking cover, then a "man standing on the corner with arrows in a quiver on his shoulder and a bow in his hand". "Afterwards, I saw people running for their lives. One of them was a woman holding a child by the hand," she added. Police have told Norwegian news agency NTB that the attacker also used other weapons during the incident, without giving more details. What we know about the Norway bow and arrow attack The suspect moved over a large area, and authorities cordoned off several parts of the town. Residents were ordered to stay indoors so authorities could examine the scene and gather evidence. Police searched surrounding gardens and garages with the help of sniffer dogs. 'The atmosphere here has darkened' Kongsberg Mayor Kari Anne Sand said it was a shocking attack in an area where many people lived, and that a crisis team would help anyone affected. Describing the town as "a completely ordinary community with completely ordinary people", Ms Sand said everyone had been deeply shaken by "this very tragic situation". British woman Fiona Herland, who has lived in Kongsberg for five years, described the town as "a very warm, cosy place - nothing happens here." "This is absolutely devastating. You can feel the atmosphere here has darkened," she told the BBC. Officers took the suspect to a police station in the town of Drammen, where his defence lawyer, Fredrik Neumann, said he was questioned for more than three hours The suspect had a Danish mother and Norwegian father, he said. Denmark's Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said Danish authorities will work with their Norwegian counterparts on the investigation. Police prosecutor Ann Irén Svane Mathiassen told TV2 that the man had lived in Kongsberg for several years. The attack came on the final day of then-Prime Minister Erna Solberg's conservative government. On Thursday morning, Labour leader Jonas Gahr Store became Norway's new Prime minister with a centre-left coalition. Mr Store said it was a "gruesome and brutal act". NATO's secretary general Jens Stoltenberg, who is from Oslo, said it was "shocking news". The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites.

I hear what you are saying, but it can also be a way to have strong localised communities too. That's the way forward. And if we can do it at ground level, outside of the existing rot, it'll only be time before the ole crusty, deeply lodged elements will get ruffled, and then possibly swept away. Pendus are REALLY susceptible to peer pressure and not being seen as out of the norm (lemming style), if forward thinking people get organised and their numbers up, we can embarrass the pendus into conformity. Come on, we are in a new unprecedented place now. We can learn about our heritage with modern tech. We can take the local, same old, same old, backwards petty politics out of our lives to a large extent. And deal with them down the line. But if we do manage to concentrate power, we have to be so careful of infiltration by sociopaths (which we know are rampant in our quom) this time.

Although I fully agree with the highlighted bit, I think you've got two individual strains of thought or cultures enmeshed erroneously. What we read in the Persian source is the result of Dasmesh Pita's endeavours and spirit. We can look at the above text with some earlier rahat-namas and start to form a fuller picture of some earlier Singhs. They were getting ready to sacrifice and rule. They were genuinely and deeply influenced by Sikhi 'ideology' (for want of a better word), probably over generations by our Guru's themselves (whether indirectly). The above is one or two generations removed from Dasmesh Pita himself. What it does show is that our forefathers transcended their innate pendu savagery without being remotely emasculated. A generation or two after the above, someone from this background, went on to rule the region, taking in large swathes of sullah dominated lands in too. Don't get the above mixed up with modern post-liberal thought (that I'd say started here in the 'swinging sixties'?) The above extract points at Sikh power, bravery, humanity, tenacity and dexterity. The other stuff you mentioned is just some modern excuse for CP action from an outside western culture. And (I'll say it again!) the logical outcome of 'modren Sikhism'. But let's keep it real. It isn't like the mindset/code of conduct referenced in that extract lingered on (and Jagjit Singh in his excellent The Sikh Revolution goes into detail about why). By the time partition happened our lot were raping and murdering in retaliation with the best of them.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/why-christian-missionaries-are-trying-to-convert-sikh-youths-in-punjab-aaj-ki-baat-episode-october-13-rajat-sharma-blogpost-740309 Opinion | Why Christian missionaries are trying to convert Sikh youths in Punjab? In some cases, Sikh youths have been offered money and other allurements like visas for US and Canada. Rajat Sharma@RajatSharmaLiveNew DelhiUpdated on: October 14, 2021 13:50 IST Image Source : INDIA TV Opinion | Why Christian missionaries are trying to convert Sikh youths in Punjab? Reports about conversion of Sikh youths to Christianity by missionaries in the border areas of Punjab are disturbing. Most of these conversions have been reported from rural and border areas of Punjab like Batala, Gurdaspur, Jalandhar, Ludhiana, Fatehgarh Churian, Dera Baba Nanak, Majitha, Ajnala and Amritsar. The officiating Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Giani Harpreet Singh has alleged that Christian missionaries have been carrying out conversions in these belts by luring poor Sikh youths. In some cases, Sikh youths have been offered money and other allurements like visas for US and Canada. The president of Shiromani Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee Bibi Jagir Kaur has launched a counter-drive by sending nearly 150 teams of Sikh preachers, who are trying to convince Sikh youths not to convert to other religions. There are seven preachers in each team and they have been sent to Majha, Malwa and Doaba regions of Punjab. The SGPC drive is named ‘Ghar Ghar Andar Dharamsaal’, which means ‘sacred shrine inside every home’. Bibi Jagir Kaur has said, “our teams of preachers stay for a week in each village, they invite the Sikh Sangat to recitation of Gurbani, Sikh ‘rehat maryada’ (code of conduct), Sikh history and religious principles. Free religious literature on Sikhism is distributed to people to stop them from converting to other religions.” Rising rate of conversions to Christianity has justifiably caused alarm among the Sikh clergy and intellectuals. To counter ‘prayer meetings’ by Christian evangelists, Sikh preachers assemble children inside gurudwaras every evening to teach them the correct recitation of Gurbani (religious hymns) and to create awareness about Sikh religion. The campaign concludes with ‘amrit sanchar’ (initiation rites) on the last day. Christian missionaries are travelling in buses mostly in rural areas of Punjab bordering Pakistan, where they try to spread the gospel. They mostly concentrate on Dalit Mazhabi Sikhs and offer inducements for converting to Christianity. They conduct meetings in villages and induce Dalit Mazhabi Sikh youths to convert and enjoy a good life in developed countries like the US and Canada. Videos are being circulated on social media on how evangelists are trying to convert these Sikh youths, mostly in border areas. This has naturally raised concerns about national security. In my prime time show ‘Aaj Ki Baat’ on Wednesday night, we showed a video sent by Akali Dal leader Manjinder Singh Sirsa. The video showed a village in Ludhiana district, where Sikh elderly persons confronted a team of Christian evangelists and asked them to leave the village. The missionaries were moving from house to house and asking people to convert. The elderly Sikhs in the village told the missionaries that Punjab is the land of the Tenth Badshah, and they need not spread the word of Christianity here. Our correspondent Punit Parinja met a local Sikh leader Gurmail Singh of Dhanoor village, and asked him about the authenticity of the video. Gurmail Singh said, nearly 10 to 15 days ago, 25 to 30 Christian evangelists came to the village and started distributing pamphlets which stated, ‘Join us, we will take you on the path to God’. Some villagers told our reporter that the missionaries were offering jobs and money for converting to Christianity. Akali leader Manjinder Singh Sirsa told India TV that missionaries have tried to lure Sikh youths by offering to arrange visas and get them settled in the US or Canada. He alleged that such evangelists are active in several districts of Punjab. The Jathedar of Sri Akal Takht Giani Harpreet Singh said, “whatever is happening amounts to an attack on Sikh religion. Missionaries of Church are misguiding people and offering inducements. This is a big danger and Sikh samaj should come forward and fight this menace with full might.” Our reporter showed the video to senior Punjab police officers. One police officer of DSP rank said, till now, they have not received any complaint about forced conversion from anybody, but since the video has surfaced, police would speak to villagers and probe the matter. SGPC chief Bibi Jagir Kaur told India TV that those who are harbouring illusions about converting Sikhs to their religion, should know that the roots of Sikh religion run very deep. Any amount of inducements will not help in religious conversions, she added. Bibi Jagir Kaur said, “we are not in competition with any other religion, nor do we fear anybody. Sikh religion is so strong that no amount of inducements will succeed. We are not afraid of evangelists. We will continue with our own drive for spreading the tenets of Sikh religion among our people. Only people who are mentally weak will agree to convert to another religion. I do not consider those who have converted as true Sikhs. A true Sikh can never be misguided nor can he convert to another religion because of inducements. Sikhs are taught since childhood to offer supreme sacrifice for the sake of religion.” We sought reaction from Rev. Sunil Solomon from the Church of North India. He said, “our evangelists spread the message of love and Christ’s teachings among the people. We are against forced conversions. It is up to the people to decide which religion they want to choose.” I was surprised when I read reports about Christian missionaries active in the sensitive border areas of Punjab. They should know that Sikhs are a martial race and they have a long history of offering supreme sacrifice for the sake of defending their religion. The history of Sikhs is replete with stories of supreme sacrifices and bravery of the Gurus and their disciples. These evangelists must know that it was Guru Teg Bahadur who took up the sword against Mughal rulers to save Kashmiri Pandits from being forcibly converted to Islam. The Guru himself refused to be converted to Islam and offered supreme sacrifice. The brave sons of Guru Govind Singh refused to be converted to Islam, and opted for martyrdom. Had the Christian evangelists read the history of Sikhs, they would not have ventured to convert people in Punjab. The second point is that, Sikhs have a long history of community service. During calamities, both natural and manmade, Sikhs are the first to come forward to set up community kitchens (langars) to offer food to the needy. The very essence of organizing ‘langar’ in all Sikh gurudwaras is that nobody must sleep on an empty stomach. The gurudwaras offer free medicines, treatment and education to the poor. It is, however, a fact that there is a craze among Sikh youths to opt for better living and they yearn for visas to go to the US, UK or Canada. By dangling inducements like arranging visas, the evangelists may be luring some of the youths to convert, but the Sikh community has now become alert, after the Jathedar of Akal Takht and the SGPC chief have sounded the alarm. The missionaries will not succeed in their aim. The teachings of Guru Nanak have been guiding the Sikhs for several centuries. The nation remains indebted to the Sikh community, which has given supreme sacrifices for defending India.

Devil's Advocate: isn't that just shuffling around on the periphery occupying ourselves with activities far removed from the actual core power structure where decisions are actually made and things get done, while deluding ourselves we're making a difference with busy-work that barely makes a dent in the long-term picture? Isn't that what happens when a Gurdwara committee has a falling out, and a splinter group breaks off to open up another Gurdwara (this time a little smaller and dingier than the main one) a few streets away, lol? The problems in the original committee that caused the aggravation aren't tackled; they're left to fester and exacerbate while another future committee conflict is seeded with the opening of another building. And so it goes on. I think there'll need to come a moment when renegade yet ultimately big-picture-seeing loyalist elements within the panth will have to be brave and take on those who've occupied the seats of power and influence in unequivocal terms. The slander, emotional blackmail, name-calling, etc., will be relentless, but the end result, if seen through, will be tremendous. Of course, the constantly fearful or brainwashed or those who've grown rich, fat, and wealthy thanks to the current system will try their darndest to put a dampener on things because it means their ride on the gravy train is coming to an end. Change needs to happen IN Punjab IN those institutions. That place needs a clearing out. Messing around with other stuff is just a huge coping strategy IMO.

If I was being harsh I could say this attitude eventually lead to the quasi-spiritual-liberalism of today's Sikhs where everything goes and nothing or nobody is ever wrong or bad by dint of the jot inside of us all. It's an attitude that's been abused and taken advantage of by weak people in weak times. The non-harrassment of non-combatants and the vulnerable is something, however, I don't have a problem with, btw.

@dallysingh101 @Jai Tegang! You guys really articulated it well. We should focus our energy on what we can change then what is not in our control (Panjab India). Hopefully we all are in the same page with what you said. Let's all try to be forefront economically, tech, weapons and so on.

This. Should be the center of this and much more.

They must've been the Singhs not to skimp on their portions of butter, milk, lassi, and yogurt when they were growing up. ? I know the feeling.