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Presumably this quote was written at a time where taxes weren't collected. Today, we just need the wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes which should suffice to support those most in need. Note need, not greed.

Brava, you took Amrit but you didn't give your head to the Guru for that Amrit, frankly whatever you do to "make amends" or even "pesh" is useless unless you actually are willing to give your everything to the Guru. If you have this gf of yours, do anand karaj, if that isn't possible then move on.

True bro in 2011 when 1.7% of Indians were enumerated as Sikhs that translated as 20million Sikhs back in 2011. The problem is that with a vastly below replacement fertility rate since 2011 there is no guarantee that Sikhs will be much more than 20million by 2050 or the 2051 census when the Indian population is projected to 1,650-1,700 million with Muslims on track to be 350million among that figure. The Sikh population in India needs to be 100million plus strong by the planned census of 2051 if we diaspora Sikhs do our best to financially support education, healthcare and parchaar to the most economically weak communities in Punjab and throughout India.

Not really but been to some south east asian countries like Thailand,Singapore and stuff but I'm talking about like korea and japan and the people from there that i have met. They seem just as materialistic. They also see the world in hierarchies and think whites at top and then them at 2nd and all of us below them. I had many east asians in my uni including international students. They will respect white people way more than they will respect other people of color. Maybe it was the past that the societies had an influence of confucion thought like in Punjab sikhi uplifted many people but look at the state of it today. Even Korea now is largely influenced by Christianity since America helped them rebuild their society and anyone can tell its a largely materialistic society at this point. Also the spiritual Japanese culture is long gone now.

Scomo is just doing what every politician does. Remeber when there were state elections a few years ago, had a few politicians come to the gurdwara on a few Sunday afternoons while all the aunties and uncles could not understand a thing.

Day 1 finally got up at 4am today without alarm clock, hoping to keep it going this summer

East Asian countries like China, Japan and Korea have benefitted a lot from Confucius. The people think of the wider society and what impact their actions will have on it. Contrast that with India where most people are purely out for themselves send their family.

@DailyMailJi you are 100% correct. Whilst it is great that if anyone from whatever background becomes Sikh and we welcome them into Panth. The fact remains that the likely primary overwhelming source of new Sikhs outside Punjab are the so-called Dalits and poor Indians. British Sikh Council (formerly known as the Scottish Sikh Council) are doing a good job supporting Sikligar Sikhs too it must be said but collectively we definitely cannot ignore non-Punjabi's given that 90% of Punjabi's could care less about Sikhi after 500 plus years. Whilst there are some economically distressed Jaats from Haryana that were demanding reservation who are against the BJP there are also a greater number of wealthy Jaats who have been intimately connected to anti-Sikh power in Delhi for a long time like Sajjan Kumar and the billionaire types that owns DLF Land that built Gurgaon/Gurugram etc and Indian Army chiefs like General Malik and General Dalbir Singh Suhag so there is very low likelihood of these wealthier Jaats suddenly becoming Sikh when they are so closely connected with the epicentre of power in the country (ie the status quo and Hindutva suits them just fine). However, the communities we need to absolutely focus are the historical communities that held Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj dear before Nehru became Prime Minister (but who have been systematically estranged from the Panth over the last 75years via financial pressure). These erstwhile sehajdhari Nanakpanthi Sikhs number 100million! (These lost "Rangrete" are "Guru ke Bete") This includes all those tens of millions in India of ancestry associated with leatherworking professions like Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj, all those tens of millions of non-Punjabi Bhangi's who have been estranged from the Panth from similar backgrounds to Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji and all those tens of millions of erstwhile Sikhs of Kabirpanthi background that revere Dhan Dhan Baba Kabir Ji Maharaj, Sanatani's, Vanjara's, Assam Sikhs to name a few and many indigenous tribes where Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj had done parchaar. Beyond that there are 250million so-called Dalits in India and 1,000million poor people in India who could tomorrow become sehajdhari Sikhs if we merely explain the basics of why Sikhi is the only truth that can uplift humanity. However, instead of us doing the obvious outside in Punjab the enemies of the Panth are determined to detach all Sikhs of Ravidasi and Mazhabi ancestries in Punjab away from the Sikh Panth and re-brand our people (present day Sikhs) into tomorrow's Hindu Dera Ballan and Hindu Balmiki Dera apartheid worshippers as that would leave the Sikh Panth as a minority in Majha and Malwa by the time of the next census in 2031. There should be no bigger priority for Panth than supporting our brothers and sisters in east Punjab from these background and ensuring that each pind in Punjab (and locality in the West) only has one single united casteless Gurdwara. Without ensuring that, the Panth cannot progress.

Yes

Baba Nand Singh Nanaksar died in 1943 predicted partition 1947 and told his followers in one village in pakistan to make a fort with iron doors that will come in use later. Even though it was expensive to build and some doubted him. They build it anyway.During 1947 the whole village went in the fort and not a single person was killed and then all made it safely across. This is just one example added to the one above. He is an institution in itself with utmost Bhakti Of Guru Nanak and Guru Granth Sahib.

Well yeah, I mean the poor disgrace the wealthy for not doing anything to get em outta poverty. So yes main reason they get disgraced.

99% of the people in the world are nothing but dumb sheep. Will follow anything tjat is trending. No one wants to use their brain analyse their choices or anything. Everyone is doing it so let me do it too.

Oh 100% sure about the influencer thing. They are also paid money to promote Dubai. They post the same pictures infront of that burj Khalifa and what not. It's all business. People will do anything for money now a days.

It doesn't matter who is wrong and who is right they will always side with the arabs like the law is anti non Arab inherently. Idky anyone would go to these countries like Dubai Kuwait and Saudi. Even if they were the only developed countries in the world I wouldnt go there.

Ikr like all I see in the videos is shopping places and similar stuff nothing else. That country just seems to be built for materialism lol. Is there much to do there? I mean everytime i see dubai vlogs people literally be going to the same mall and a few similar places like this indoor amusement park, this cultural place where they have food from all over the world and a few other things. Like I always wonder what do people go to dubai even for?

You've answered your own question, bro. Footballers, social media influencers, and apne flock to Dubai because: shallow.

Dubai/UAE is only bright on the surface. In reality, these countries rest on mountains of human tragedies. Dubai's skyscrapers, stained by the blood of migrant workers There's a rumour that social media "influencers" who often visit Dubai do extremely revolting things for wealthy men in exchange for money and gifts. https://www.the-star.co.ke/sasa/lifestyle/2022-05-14-influencers-dirty-little-secret/

Great posts Ji + I am in full agreement with everything you say. We as Sikhs need to ditch this pathetic concept of Punjabiyat. Sikhi + the Punjabi language are all Punjabi Sikhs need. The reason the Harvest Festival nonsense is promoted over Vaisakhi (Khalsa Sajna Diwas) is that the opponents of Sikhi are scared of the 1.4 Billion Indian population realising that our Panj Piare from Gujarat, Karnataka, Odisha, Uttar Pradesh, Sialkot standing up in 1699 was the most revolutionary and incredible instance of the oppressed standing up in the land of India from day one through the indisputable Truth of Sikhi.

"The Muslim Community has a fertility rate of 2.3, with the Hindu community following at 1.94 in NFHS 5. The Christian community has a fertility rate of 1.88, the Sikh community at 1.61, the Jain community at 1.6 and the Buddhist and neo-Buddhist community at 1.39—the lowest rate in the country." What the figures above neglect to mention is that the Muslims marry off their girls at age 16 in India and that excluding Jains (who are primarily from a business background), the Muslims have the second highest proportion of castes termed as "general category" in India or "higher caste" in Pakistan and yet still have the highest fertility rates. In contrast most non-Muslim men in India are getting married at around twice the age that most Muslim females get married at. The two minority Dharmic faiths which are composed of a majority of economically downtrodden backgrounds (98% in the case of Buddhists and 52% in the case of Sikhs) which have the most to offer India have below replacement levels of TFR and which implies that even the poorest non-Muslims in India have lower fertility rates than so-called "higher caste" Muslims such as the Muslim Rajputs (Ranghars), Muslim Brahmins (Butts), Muslim Khatri's (Sheikhs), Pathans, Syeds etc. The statistics imply a trajectory that there will be more than One Billion Muslims plus just across India, Pakistan and Bangladesh by 2050 in contrast to 20 million or less Sikhs in India by then unless our community gets serious about serious sewa and parchaar to non-Punjabi's in India (alongside the poorest communities in Punjabi and the Bihari's already resident in Punjab).

I'm sure most old testament babas had Gatra di Kirpan with them as well even if they weren't Amritshak.

Does this mean men who go bald lose their strength? Genuine question.

@Kau89r8 Professor Sahib make a very deep and sincerely heartfelt point in relation to the likelihood of Sikhs becoming a minority in Punjab by the 2031 census (just like we already are in Doaba despite many of the Sikh Diaspora having roots there). However, emigration by Sikhs from Punjab will not end any time soon. What we as Diaspora Sikhs need to do is financially support parchaar and integration of Bihari's and other poor non-Sikh communities in Punjab into the Panth as primarily sehajdhari Sikhs with of course Amritdhari's from the most committed. Pakistan (and Muslim countries more generally) actively support emigration as state policy (via assistance) as it raises foreign currency reserves and remittances from the Diaspora, whilst the Muslim home country still grows strongly in population due to a high fertility rate TFR whilst gaining greater political and financial clout in the West. Amritpal Singh is absolutely correct in what he says but aman-shanti is essential in east Punjab as RAW uses disturbances to disrupt inward investment into Punjab and hence why the top state economically has become a laggard. But via NRI Sikhs investments and decent governance in Punjab the next 5 years the economy there ought to grow by 50% @ Dally Paji given that the major export commodity of Punjab (wheat) is purchased by Delhi for half the price it openly sells for on the open market globally (imagine the Muslims selling oil at half price and their economies failing as a result) then how would you foresee suicides ever ending in such a scenario (in the absence of parchaar that suicide and hunger strikes are not condoned by Sikhi)?

I hear you Paji but anybody that is casteist cannot be Sikh by definition and we need to declare a Dharam Yudh on such types. It is simply not acceptable for so-called Sikhs (fake ones) to infect our Qaum with cancerous Hindu and Muslim ideology like the wretched caste system (or racism). Those two pejorative terms are the exact words the Muslims use about our (Sikh) Qaum. They perceive us Sikhs as a "chuhre-chamaarah di Qaum" because Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji were the bravest of the brave in the eyes of the Sikh Qaum. Yet to the Muslim slavemasters they describe Bhai Jaita Ji (Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji) as a "Bihari Chuhra" according to the notion of purity of lineage among white-skinned Muslims like the Slavemaster Pedophile Muhammad. Similarly the Muslim Qazi's and Aurangzeb were dumbfounded that Shaheed Bhai Sangat Ji led the Sikh Fauj at Guru Sahib's behest and the Muslims scoffed that the Sikh Fauj was being led by an *erstwhile* Chamar in the Muslim eyes. We Sikhs bow down daily before the Shabad Guru and shloks of Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj. We as Sikhs are the *only* true haqdaar who can rightfully claim to be Ravidassia as Sikhi is based upon the anti-casteist and Gurmat philosophy of Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj as the pro-Hindutva and casteist Dera Ballan apartheid franchise is not some new religion that has arisen organically but is a Congress and Hindutva RAW-sponsored creation designed to convert one of the biggest demographic components of the Sikh Panth (Sikhs of Ravidasi heritage) into tomorrow's "Hindu Chamar votebank". What Nehru realised was that if all those (currently) 60million strong of leatherworking ancestry came to realise that the Sikh Fauj was led by a Gurmukh like Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji and that all Sikhs bow down daily to the greatness of someone (*our* Shabad Guru - Dhan Dhan Baba Ravidas Ji Maharaj) that the Hindu's and Muslims openly despise as a Chamar then a Sikh population that would QUADRUPLE what it was then (and now) would be a massive threat to his pathetic rule that the racist British Empire deliberately gifted him (and Jinnah) with. Hence the recent state-sponsored proliferation of this apartheid franchise (Dera Ballan). If we do not eradicate and expel casteists from our midst and focus on our Mazhabi Sikh and Ravidasi Sikh brothers upliftment in this decade then it is likely to be the case that Sikhs will be a minority (like we already are in Doaba) in even Majha and Malwa by the 2031 census (which would have been unthinkable 75years ago).

The fault lies with us as Punjabi Sikhs for not focussing upon the poor and downtrodden as Sikhi instructs us to do. Outside of east Punjab, Sikhs comprise 0.3% of the rest of the Indian population. Most Indians have no knowledge of Sikhi which is not surprising given that our own people don't even know who and where our Panj Piare were from and that most of them were from backgrounds that the Hindu's and Muslims consider "low caste". Via a combination of sewa, parchaar and social upliftment in Punjab itself and to the poor in India outside Punjab we should be able to build upon facts such as: *the recent Chief Minister of east Punjab (Channi) was from a so-called "low caste" background in the eyes of Hindu's and Muslims and in stark contrast to the fact that Pakistani Punjab is run by a Muslim Brahmin - Hamza Shahbaz (Butt). *the Chief Jathedar of the SGPC is from a so-called "low caste" background *the majority of Granthi's & Gursewaks at Gurdwara's are from a so-called "low caste" background *Shaheed Bhai Sangat Singh Ji led the Sikh Fauj at Guru Sahib's behest which the Muslims scoffed at the Sikh Qaum being led by an erstwhile "Chamar" in the Muslim Slavemaster's eyes. *Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji was derided as a "Bihari Chuhra" by the Muslim enemies of the Sikh Panth yet is amongst the bravest of the brave our Panth ever blessed us with. *the number of so-called "low caste" MLA's have consistently exceeded the number of Jat MLA's since 1980's *the majority of Kesdhari youth left in Punjab are from a so-called "low caste" background *so-called "low castes" comprise 34% plus of the east Punjab population in contrast to Jats who are 21% of the population *Singh Sabha was driven forward by Giani Ditt Singh who was decried by Muslims and Hindu's for being of Chamar ancestry And given the majority of the Panj Piare were from a so-called "low caste" background in the eyes of the Hindu and Muslim enemies of the Sikh Panth ... The main question we need to ask ourselves is why are we as Diaspora Sikhs so weak in doing sewa and parchaar about Sikhi to 250 million so-called "Dalits" in India? We could make a start by ensuring Sikhs only worship in one united saanjha Gurdwara for all in every pind in Punjab and every locality in the West and funding the education of poor Sikhs and so-called Dalits outside Punjab as done by Baru Sahib and British Sikh Council and the Sikh Human Development Foundation.

Typical apne post. Guy comes out asking for a training partner and support and a man has come on and changed the whole subject and made it about what he thinks is best. let’s hope this kid hasn’t been put off training. our ppl sadly have a bad habit of being negative about everything.

1. Yes I would agree that Somali Muslims are known to be racist to non-Muslims. But ironically the community that despises the Somali's the most are Arab Muslims. In turn because the Arab Muslims call the Somali's as "slaves" ... the Somali's hate West Indians and refer to the West Indians as "slaves" beneath Somali's. 2. Most mixed race people are overwhelmingly not racist and understand from their own parentage as to why racism is an artificial man-made construct. 3. In the 1970's any person of mixed race parentage that grew up in the racist environment of the 1950's when "No dogs. No blacks. No Irish" was plastered across the windows of rental properties would have internalised racism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_racism Thereby to fit in - back then - I can well believe that one lone mixed race guy sought to demonstrate his loyalty to the (racist) white community that despised him in the first place. But in the year 2022 the vast overwhelmingly majority of mixed race folks are not racist and I strongly believe that and will look to get statistical proof of that. 4. The Somali's look down upon West Indians and call them "slaves". West Indians are hot-blooded like Sikhs and know how to look after themselves

1. Agreed but do you agree that actually the indigenous natives have greater title upon the Land than their Treaty rights would imply? 2. Wanting historically oppressed communities that have suffered from Christian and Islamic Slavery for hundreds of years to benefit from equal academic, health and justice outcomes = Sikhi = Sarbat da Bhala. White and Muslim culture was to oppress those same oppressed communities. That's why Sikhi is unique and why millions of kaaleh would become Sikh if we did very basic levels of parchaar to point out that Sikhi opposes Slavery and racial discrimination. 3. If you are talking about grooming then give it 10 years in Mississauga and Milton and places like that and you will see that grooming occurs wherever Muslims achieve a critical mass within local population demographics.

So is that how the first generations of Sikhs should have thought? That let's ignore anybody who could be tomorrow's Sikh since they are not Sikhs today? What you are basically saying is that Sikhi should never expand beyond the 10% of Punjabi's it is restricted to today and we should never reach out to oppressed communities because at this point in time they are not Sikh.

1. I don't know what planet you are living on MisterrSingh or which part of London you are living in as I have never had any problems with Afro-Caribbeans who are in the main superb people particularly the older generation (though i do not deny that a minority of youth influenced by anti-Black Drill music are bad eggs). But I strongly feel that you might be projecting your own limited experiences as if they are reflective of the UK Sikh community. I strongly believe that only a minority of Sikhs may have experienced racism from black or mixed race folks in this decade. 2. Africans represent the majority of the Black community in the UK and therefore from your own words and experience with them you acknowledge that most "black" folks are good decent people just like Sikhs.

Well done Singh. Proud of you and will PM you again! Chardi Kala!

100% agree with you bro. There can be no room for racists and casteists within the Panth. Anybody that espouses racist or casteist viewpoints is exposing that they have no understanding of what Sikhi or Vaisakhi 1699 stands for. Christianity, Islam are openly racist religions by virtue of their own scriptures and how they enslaved and killed tens of milions of innocent black African men, women and children the same can be said of casteist Hindu scriptures. As Sikhs there is no justification or excuse!

@proudkaur21 @Kaurr @Premi5 @proactive @MisterrSingh @dallysingh101

Anyone remember this many years ago?? Breaking News - Update http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2781613/Sikh-student-cleared-killing-lover-s-wife.html Posing in jail, student who could be cleared of killing lover's wife: 'Compelling new evidence' over savage stabbing Mindy Sanghera was jailed in 2007 after being found guilty of murder But there was no forensic proof she stabbed Sana Ali more than 40 times The 17-year-old victim was the wife of playboy businessman Sair Ali Sanghera's legal team have 'compelling' evidence for an appeal Analysis of mobiles suggests victim's phone was used after her death Dramatic new forensic evidence could clear a university student convicted of the brutal murder of her married lover's young wife. Mindy Sanghera, a Sikh now aged 30, was jailed for life in 2007 after a jury found her guilty of murdering the 17-year-old pregnant wife of playboy businessman Sair Ali, a Muslim. But the case against her was largely based on circumstantial evidence – there was no forensic proof that she stabbed Mr Ali's wife Sana more than 40 times and plunged a knife into her womb at his family's £500,000 home in Bury, Greater Manchester. Sanghera's legal team have now unearthed what they consider to be 'compelling new evidence' for the case to be referred to the Court of Appeal and her conviction quashed. They say fresh analysis of mobile phones suggests someone used or accessed the victim's phone after Sanghera had left the home, while new tests show Sanghera could not have escaped through a small kitchen window without leaving forensic traces. The Criminal Cases Review Commission, which refers cases to the Court of Appeal, is 'actively pursuing' new lines of inquiry. The twist in the case comes as pictures emerged of Sanghera inside Foston Hall women's prison in Derbyshire, where she is serving a minimum 14-year life term.

VJKK VJKF! Sangat Ji, are there any Singh's (or Singhia) in the GTA area (Ontario, Canada) that do shooting (airguns or guns) or are members of gun clubs? I would love to meet fellow Gursikh's in the area that enjoy shooting and know of places (indoor or outdoor) where we could shoot for target practice etc. Perhaps there is someone here that has private land or knows someone that does where Sikh's could gather and practice target shooting or even archery etc. Even an old barn. If anyone knows then please comment. Thanks. Gurfateh Ji!

The median white European is a balding, beer bellied 67-year-old. They can't orchestrate a white power uprising even if they want to.

Its our own fault for not developing our original homeland. We just run to white countries.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10598439/Social-worker-SUES-university-asked-defend-whiteness-interview.html?ito=push-notification&ci=wdnk-sTHy6&cri=B7oWDGHXHO&si=YtKBoX9hm_cE&xi=d479751b-a4a5-4f7f-b8d0-697c69ef1cd8&ai=10598439

Yeah so them occupying and genociding natives of other continents from existence is all good? Look what they did to Australian aboriginal people and now they think that the same is happening to them lol. Also only they have had glory days? What about all the advanced ancient civilizations which don't exist anymore? Civilizations rise and fall. Also they are able get away with all of this because we have many poc who bend their backs for them.

Yes I believe it could happen. I think Canadians are in a bubble in terms of being one of the few nations that still largely adheres to the doctrine of multiculturalism. So I think it's easy for people there to be under a misapprehension about trends going on in the other parts of the white world. Multiculturalism seems to largely have been rejected in europe. Hordes of these people aren't really happy with brown and black migration to their nations, but are reluctantly biting their tongues. For now. Essentially they feel that we are lesser species of humans. In a hypothetical event of destablisation, be this through war, climate change, international politics (i.e. sanctions etc.), a reduction in available resources - I think people's 'tolerant' masks can come off very quickly and suddenly. I've already been subtly warned by whites I know that 'the world is going to become a much more hostile place in future' in their opinion. Many whites are under an existential crisis based on white cultural hegemony. And we've seen historically, that these people will be as ruthless and brutal as any people when they feel this is under threat. Look at the concentration camps of educated, sophisticated Germany. Or look at how indigenous women have been treated where you are. Look at the long standing conflict between whites and blacks in the US. Look at how, when it comes to it, these people will engage in genocides, even if they are covert ones like all those schools secretly abusing and killing indigenous children. White supremacists have always been around, but have been supressed somewhat for the last few decades. This has led them to act covertly. Any loosening of stability in a region where they have people and support, and they will be coming out of the woodwork. I don't think many of white non-racists will be able to deal with them either. We know they have infiltrated positions of power, be this the army, politics and police, education, the scientific community and even day to day industries and organisations. They would rather we weren't here. They want a return to their glory days. What do you think their intent may be?

awesome

I am reading Suraj Granth and it is beautiful with so much history but some less knowing people are turning to throw it away calling it Hindu and stuff. So if you know any sections or stories that are controversial say it and we can try to examine them. Gonna have Gurbilas Patshahi 6 and 10 soon. We can do the same for both of them.

Where have I argued any differently? I've suggested a soldier does the job definitively so that his enemy can't be nursed back to health by a religious do-gooder. If someone wants to enter God's Abode, I'd argue the battlefield is the last place to virtue signal. It shows a distinct lack of concern for one's fellow brothers in arms. It's actually incredibly short sighted and selfish. I'm beginning to suspect these tales have been constructed by people who've never had to fight in their lives, because only such people could ever completely ignore the reality of war. For one moment, imagine trying to emulate the aforementioned example during the siege of the Golden Temple in June 84. What would you imagine Sant Jarnail's Singh's reaction would be if a young Singh helps an Indian soldier back on to his feet after another Singh had done his best to finish the job during that hellish siege? If your reply is anything other than, "annoyed" then you've been seduced by the Hollywood-isation of reality. Imagine actually practising in REAL-LIFE what we're told is a virtue that must be adhered to if we're "true" Sikhs. Mind-boggling.

not many but being blind angry cripples you as a fighter , and that is why ALL martial arts teach people to center themselves and fight from a thinking stance not allowing rage/haumai to creep in . Been in plenty of mulitiple on one fights as a youngster and being cool headed and somewhat detached gave me space to think and work my side better.

Bhen ji, NO ONE is Sikh by birth , you have to give sees to Guru ji and then become Guru wale by taking Amrit it has been like this from the start with Guru Nanak Dev ji . She is not Sikh full stop as she has commited more than one bujjhar kurehit before even coming to Guru ji. Yes she has probaly served time for crime that she didn't physically commit but she paved the way for the guilty party to do it and blame her.

Little knowledge is dangerous. Donot comment unless you know about the case. And only people who have no love for their religion can say, " if two people like eavh other that is enough religion should not come in them." That is why a muslim boy will make sure you convert to Islam if you too happen to like a muslim boy and want to marry him.

Be careful about your prayers, lady. We should instead pray that may Waheguru give the wisdom to the parents to raise their sons and daughters as Sikhs and teach them the basics of Sikhi so that the Panth is proud of our younger generation.

In my view she is guilty as sin as I followed the case back in 2007 and read how she was sleeping around going clubs getting drunk while at uni which is a typical thing that these slaags get up to.... so i say let her rot in jail not only for the crime of murdering a pregnant innocent woman but the even worser sin of sleeping and having relations with a non-sikh guy and a muslim at that. Let us pray that Waheguru destroy such females before they take birth so the panth is spared of such appalling evil women disgracing and giving sikh women a bad name. We need to restore the respect and honour that such women are trying to malign with their vile antics.

Back to the topic it must be awful if she is innocent and has been framed. To have been locked up for all those years with the whole world hating her for killing a pregnant woman in a brutal attack.

It was a shocking when I first heard about it. but maybe she did not commit the murder and it was someone else. If that is the case she has been locked up for a crime she did not commit. but the courts will have to decide. hopefully they will find the person who commited this evil act.