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Amritpal Singh , seems like a good character wanting change in Punjab and for Sikhs . Lets hope his intentions are good

Do you cultists really believe these singers and dancers are kamayi-wale Gursikh reborn to lead us?

With Akaal Purakh's kirpa another sant sipahi is amongst us. Amritpal Singh. Thousands have gathered / do gather for Amrit after listening to his prachaars. Leader of Waris Punjab De party.

when I first saw the photo they just looked like typical indians, until I saw them using names like they are amrit-dharis. It's so unfortunate that many sikhs use Singh and Kaur as their main names and yet aren't even tyaar bar tyaar to be protected from such a situation, especially in a country which allows guns! Regardless, this is so sad what happened and especially the baby.

I pray for his Chardi-Kala but can't help feel scared ... iykyk (deep sidhu, sidhu moosewala)

You should see some the arab muslims here bro. I had kids who would fast in primary school and now I see them (only 16-18 rn) all in bikinis, eating pork, not caring about islam but still calling themselves muslim.

When i talk about non practicing sikh tbh I mean people who do not see the importance of rehat maryada and bend rules of sikhi. Technically deep was a mona but he never ever talked or belittled the rules and conduct of Sikhi. Here the non practicing sikhs not only do not keep rehat but also constantly belittle the importance of the rehat. This is where the dil saaf meme came from. There are many amritdhari sikhs who are pawns and only keep the saroop to fool sikhs. Obviously a panthic mona is 1000 times better than such a person. I am talking more of people who constantly bend the rules to accommodate their own wrong doings and say that you only need a clean heart and no need to follow the rules and rehat. I wouldn't consider Badal as a sikh at all. This person has let so much anti sikh stuff to seep into Punjab.

Non practicing sikhs are always criticizing the rehat and rules of sikhi as they do not follow it themselves. These same people will be out there telling the future generation that keeping rehat is not important just have a clean heart and it becomes a big issue as their collective voice gets bigger if they are not stopped.

only around 5 % max are fully practicing sikhs for sure. Rest are just those who call themselves sikh but not really following the rehat at all. I mean i rarely see any sikh female here who has uncut hair. I see more men with kesh than women. For muslims obviously there are way more fully practising muslims compared to us but i see many who call themsleves muslims but indulge in stuff not allowed in Islam. The only difference is these muslims still know their boundaries and what is allowed or not and don't act like what they are doing is right compared to liberal sikhs who want to try to bend the rules to accommodate their wrong doings and also these Muslims get more strict with age but this is not the same with liberal sikhs who will pass on the same liberal teachings to their kids thus weakening sikhi in each generation. Muslims also are more organized so a liberal muslim has all the resources easily available to learn more about Islam where as with us everything is here and there. Also one thing I noticed is that some sikhs who came here decades ago think their own culture is backward and assimilate easily but Muslims as a whole do not think this way. I think a big reason is that muslim women are very strict about the rules of Islam . Have you ever seen a single muslim women ever mixing practices of other religions like sikh women who believe in all this nonsense superstitions do?We have no fixed defined boundaries.

i wander how many are 'culture Sikhs' more Panjabis then practising Sikhs ... Muslims have that devotion regardless of how religious they are...Sikh are too broad of the spectrum from religious from Amritdhari, keeping Kes to no religious not knowing names of 10 Gurus and stepping to the Gurudwara @proudkaur21

I'm sure this is 90% of this is related to immigration and birth rates.

That's what I initially thought as well, but the person who posted it said it was Baba Kehar Singh Ji. Both Gursikhs had a similar dastar style.

I noticed a growing number of 3rd/4th generation kids who grew up going to Ravidasia Gurdwaras and Sangat converting on mass. All my peers that I went to school with wouldn't call themselves Sikhs, but then were ridiculed even by Goray for not knowing what religion if anything they were... Some called themselves Hindu but a sister from the same family would be Sikh. This confusion I feel has been exploited by Muslims, Christians etc who have targeted people who practice something that has no real structure, interpretations or offical name? It's literally different from each Bhawan to Gurdwara to Centre/Temple. I'd rather these people stay somewhat connected to Sikhi, but it looks like thier families and parents and continuing in this trajectory of separating from Sikhi but take thier kids into no man's land with no logic or sense. Which then gets exploited by the Dawah givers who quote bani back to them and point out how thier parents and community themselves don't follow the scriptures they attach themselves too, or have any real history as a organised religion. Surely, those Ravidasia people living in the UK atleast can see what this is doing to thier kids? When you even look at thier sangat, it's older people, hardly any youth because I genuinely think they don't want to associate with the Bhavans (or whatever they call them). Anyone from the community on this forum? Where is your head at? Surely you see what I see?

Thats no hidden secret. 47 Singhs killed their daughters instead facing the M gangs crossing the borders. Been since beginning of islam...I give them credit at least they doing what Islamic teaches them to do.. spread the world of allah. Also if they convert non-believers or those who are different faiths they get extra points when they reach heaven...its part of their duty...

Should be interesting .. Any thoughts on visual of video... Maybe Pakistani dancers presented in video..who wants to bet

US is much better then UK..the healthcare depends which lens you look at it. Look at the taxes over here compared to USA. Racism is everywhere, we are not talking about Alabama, mid west usa. Also compared to UK, USA is more 'diverse'..you have all races, blacks, Latina, Asians (not the Asians they refer to UK, like Pakistanis and Indians only lol), middle -eastern, Persians etc....UK we just have certain types of races...not diverse as USA for sure.. Canada, there are lots of Sikhs that are in politics, and all sectors doing well which helps against the Indian narrative but i think we'd be better in USA. Also during the Kissan rallys, there were so many holding Khalistani flags in USA. You didnt see Indian media squeak as they did with UK or Canada. Why? - Freedom of speech and democracy. USA not going to be hostile to Sikhs wanting their homeland, since they support Israel. If able to, migrate to Switzerland would be great! If you'd had the $$$

True..i think reading Bani helps understanding suffering is part of life and just take a look at what our Gurus went through. Look at how many Sikh holocaust those who came before us went through. I remember a while ago someone mentioned under the topic 'When will we have a Khalsa Raj' is that there is going to be alot more suffering for Sikhs and more bloodshed until there will be a Khalsa Raj.. Was is mentioned in the Sau Sakhi? Its so hard to keep faith and hope and pray when all this suffering of our people. Just wish there was a magic wand to make it go away. My heart hearts seeing them sleeping in streets Dehli getting hit by tea gas Leadership you are right but not because spiritually dead we all want Khalistan but who is going to give it to us. What a sad state of affair when you have cretins badals or capitan on their side and no one NOT A SINGLE sikh leader to help them. Why hasn't the Akal Jathendar Harpreet doing anything. Only 'decent' leader very loosely is Sirsa...he does play too much into BJP and Modi but he seems to be only one 'helping'...or maybe its just PR.. cant trust anyone. Wish we had all our great Sants and Leaders back

the best thing with individuals like that is not to insult them or pay any attention to their insults, and just go straight to the point. They will try and insult, and deflect etc. but you stay on point and stay focused. And when they see that their playground tactics are no longer working, they run. Let's see if this happens here...

Yes i have seen some of his videos...What do you think? Does he mention the year

Have you checked out this thread...Khalsa Ji rekted him @Koi @jkvlondon

couldn't get anyone to take his bakwas seriously so legged it ... typical

Its still makes them jump. Hindus, Muslims, Gora still can't fathom how great Sikh Empire was.

Without going in to a personal mudslinging match, it might be more productive to set up separate threads for each topic (for example, paedophilia in Islam, Islamic culture, preservation (or lack thereof) of the quran etc.) and have an intellectual debate, with proofs etc. @MuslimNeighbour - would you be up for something like that?

It's a shame they're divorced. Oh well, at least they're still cousins ?

The biggest disaster to befall the world was the Arab empire and their creation of Islam as a religion to rival Christianity of the Byzantines and Rome and the Zoroastrianism of the Persians. Recent research points to this as being the true chronology of events rather than the Muslim narrative of Islam coming first and then the Arab empire. The world would be a much better place had there been no Arab empire and Islam. The Dharmic religions would have been a majority from Afghanistan through to Vietnam and from Japan to Indonesia. Afghanistan certainly would not have been the shythole it is now. Before Islam it was a centre of learning and had a mixture of Greek and Buddhist influences. The descendants of the people who created these-; Would not be doing this today had the religion of 'peace' not been created.

Maybe they can start with how old was Aisha?! 13 8 6 3?! Some Islamic scholars say she was 3! What about those sex slaves he kept too. Then those pearl heaven sent boys what their Prophet made them do what?

This Pakistani girl from school got married to her cousin. Both their mums are sisters and 1 year apart in age! She was 18. Had one daughter ..Now they divorced. Old job, plenty of Pakis would work there and ya they'd be married to 1st cousins, and id initially be to them is that your brother/sis and they be no husband... first i was confused than found out why they look same!

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-23183102 BBC: 70% of British Pakistanis marry their 1st cousin in Bradford (All UK: 55%). 20% of child deaths in Redbridge were due to cousin parents https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4674136/The-British-Pakistani-women-marrying-COUSINS.html https://www.defendevropa.com/2017/news/inbreeding-pakistani-costing-billions/ Inbreeding Within the UK’s Pakistani Community; It’s Costing the NHS Billions Guess who are highest earning ethnicity UK ...and the lowest...We're paying for their sh##

There is lot of retardation in their community due to their 'keeping it in the family' disgusting traditions. You can just imagine the confusion a typical Pakistani family has …. Your Massi / Bhua is also your Suss. Your Massadr/ Fuffarh is also your Saura. Your Chacheri/Mameri Bhain is also your Wohti!

it takes 2 to groom bro im pretty sure alot of these girls who were groomed have shady pasts and were known as being loose idc if shes a punjabi and she was groomed if she was known as loose she ain my sister just another rundi to me

I can speak for myself, growing up in a majority sullah area. I've had plenty of 'dialogue' with your people. It's like talking to sociopaths who go mental with narcissistic rage when faced with reality. Come on now....face it....your 'messenger' appears to be what we would call a pedophile today. Is that true or not? If you (personally!!!) saw a 50 year old (let's just say) white man sniffing up to a 10/12 year old for 'marriage' you'd think: "What the hell!! This guys a predatory pervert!!" but because of your brainwashing you've accepted someone like this as some messenger from our creator........f**k NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Exactly...you've just reinforced my point - those frameworks are 'woefully inadequate' for our thing. They only mislead.

It's A LOT more than just mirpuris involved. Why don't you f**kers do more to clean up the perverted stank coming from your community? And admin, why is this sullah allowed to bark his propaganda here? Move him on to the nonce case wing of a prison, where he can join hordes of his filthy pervert brothers as one big happy deranged family.

What about the cultural/religious dimension of grooming. Perpetrators believe they are doing a service to islam by it. And we can all read passages in the Koran and read about events in islamic history that normalise slavery and sexual abuse. So this is more than just some criminality issue. It's a longstanding religio-cultural practice probably from arabs which spread to other communities as their faith spread. Regarding Sikhs joining the Indian army, most people on this forum wouldn't be too keen, but in reality your own motive for promoting this isn't anything but strategic selfish w*nkery for your jihadi brothers - nothing else.

One of the main differences between the Sikhi philosophy and Buddhist philosophy it is the Buddhist tendency to detach from life whereas we acommodate life. If you ever get the chance to see a debate between one of our Gursikhs and Buddhist, it is fascinating. The debate between Dharmiks becomes metaphysical, it is a far higher level discussion that you can never have with a Abrahamic.

Actually Bhai sahib in puratan birs manglacharan always came first: 1749 and 1801 saroop show mangal first then anand sahib. If you look at other puratan saroops for other banis, manglacharan always came first ji.

criminal cases not false political imprisonment

then why are his inlaws also being hassled there ? https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/punjab/accused-johal-married-shahkot-girl-19-days-ago/494670.html Balwinder Singh has also been interviewed by BBC a few times, his daughter and family members have had to go into hiding to safeguard her from being picked up and tortured also . I have seen an interview of the poor girl she was apni

nazanine is not white either , and others who have been held by Iran who are white have had there cases fast-tracked ahead of hers ... it is not because of him being Scottish but being a brown sikh , that was the whole point of the repeated raids , phone taps etc on diaspora sikhs, remember they had someone in Germany spying on sikhs there , no one is spying on white sikhs in the USA or even arresting them though they are running academies in India and going back and forth

why lie? isn't he following it now ?

remember he is not amritdhari and he was growing closer to his faith by learning and preserving his panth's history, stop criticising him, are you doing anything for the positive?

Baba Deep Singh Ji's head did come off and he kept on fighting, this I believe is due to the amount of Parth and Simran done by Baba Ji. I also think that it was written by the Mughals of the time that this happened. Sceptical people will question these Sakhis, as they have no belief. The Bani and Parth given to us was give by our Gurus, which was straight from Waheguru. Entlightend souls such as Baba Deep Singh Ji would sing and recite Bani for hours and hours, this is where the power comes from to have something like you head taken off your body and you still alive. Ignore these people who question it. Have faith in Waheguru Phul Chuf Maff

Harinder singh jeo, It appears you want to see whatever your mindset allows you to see it,- jhatka, shaheedi degh are important parts in nihang life- budda dal nihangs as in maryada. so there is a difference between nihang maryada and taksal maryada.

pretty muchh jee!! mayb one/two little things thats about it.. when dass talks about nihang singhs, he talks out of his own useless buddhe bout, bout tyar par tyar, non intoxiated, non meating consuming, rehatvaan guroo pyareh and in that case they fit in perfectly within the taksal marayda.. dhann baba deep singh jee..jathedaar of dam damee taksall and shaheedee mislll akaaaalooooo