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There are a lot of Sikh owned restaurants here in the London area which are halal. Remember money comes first to apne. Likewise, take a walk down Southall Broadway and you will see countless Sikh owned shops selling Islamic pictures of Mecca and head scarfs. Never in a million years will you see muslims selling Sikh related items.

Someone else pointed out the same thing of the increased presence of these people in Canada as years pass by.

yeah then it again comes to money over dharam. Like i already said you will see people calling themselves sikhs change religion for money and benefits but their are millions of Muslims living in way worse conditions than poor Sikhs who do not change religion. Like when we cry about these christian missionaries changing people's religion using money it just shows that these people do not believe in the philosophy enough to not change their religion. Like we should help poor sikhs but if the only reason someone is staying in your religion is for benefits then what is the point of having such people? Its the same way how some non sikhs converted to sikhi during Sikh empire and British rule for benefits. It's not an advantage having such people convert to your religion. These people are converting because they do not believe in the philosophy which is like 90% of sikhs. Like someone on this forum said that even the weakest sikh back in the days was a better sikh than the strongest sikh of today's time. Following sikhi is not easy which is why actual sikhs will always be very very less in numbers.

An economic migrant brings money in. I think the influx of the population has come from all the student visas.

I mean to the western governments, a Hindu economic migrant from Gujurat is equal to a Sikh economic migrant from Punjab.

The first lesson regarding charity that a Sikh must learn is from the first Bani, Jap ji: ਤੀਰਥੁ ਤਪੁ ਦਇਆ ਦਤੁ ਦਾਨੁ ॥ ਜੇ ਕੋ ਪਾਵੈ ਤਿਲ ਕਾ ਮਾਨੁ ॥ ਸੁਣਿਆ ਮੰਨਿਆ ਮਨਿ ਕੀਤਾ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਅੰਤਰਗਤਿ ਤੀਰਥਿ ਮਲਿ ਨਾਉ ॥ Pilgrimage, penance, compassion and charity, bring only a sesame (tiny amount) of honour (merit), if any. Whoever heartily hears, believes and loves in his mind, obtains salvation by thoroughly bathing in the shrine within himself. So, the first thing to know about charity is that no charity is above having love for God in your heart via Gurbani. Charity is useless without Gurbani. Therefore you need to sing Gurbani every day with love. Once you do that, you can give donations. If you're asking about specific charities, I would recommend asking family in Punjab and giving money to specific individuals (such as a poor Sikh whose ceiling fell in due to rain). I would recommend giving to Sikhs, not to United Way and other general charities. Those get plenty of money from Western governments and corporations, meanwhile some of our people are starving or in debt.

When i talk about non practicing sikh tbh I mean people who do not see the importance of rehat maryada and bend rules of sikhi. Technically deep was a mona but he never ever talked or belittled the rules and conduct of Sikhi. Here the non practicing sikhs not only do not keep rehat but also constantly belittle the importance of the rehat. This is where the dil saaf meme came from. There are many amritdhari sikhs who are pawns and only keep the saroop to fool sikhs. Obviously a panthic mona is 1000 times better than such a person. I am talking more of people who constantly bend the rules to accommodate their own wrong doings and say that you only need a clean heart and no need to follow the rules and rehat. I wouldn't consider Badal as a sikh at all. This person has let so much anti sikh stuff to seep into Punjab.

Non practicing sikhs are always criticizing the rehat and rules of sikhi as they do not follow it themselves. These same people will be out there telling the future generation that keeping rehat is not important just have a clean heart and it becomes a big issue as their collective voice gets bigger if they are not stopped.

Let me be honest with you. I don't think any PM of UK will free jaggi as it doesn't benefit them in any way. Also UK economy and the society in general is going through tough times. They wont be able to fix this mess.

I think the toxicity is often mental/psychological (as opposed to physical) these days i.e. abusive, coercive behaviour and language.

naah tbh i don't know if its due to intergenerational trauma but i have observed that there is alot of violence in a lot of Punjabi homes.

This whole statement is way too generic.

People think offering toy aeroplanes will "assure" them a visa! http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/aeroplane-gurdwara/998924/ Aeroplane Gurdwara Anju Agnihotri Chaba , Anju Agnihotri Chaba : New Delhi, Sat Sep 08 2012, 22:25 It's not difficult to locate Shaheed Baba Nihal Singh Gurdwara in Talhan village near Jalandhar on NH-1. Just ask for the "hawai jahaz gurdwara" or the "aeroplane gurdwara", and you'll be promptly guided to it... Shaheed Baba Nihal Singh Gurdwara, or the hawai jahaz gurdwara, is a ticket to the West; if you offer a toy aeroplane there as prasad, you can be "assured" of a visa. Or so, believe devotees who flock to the shrine with miniature aircraft as offerings, from across Punjab's Doaba region, which consists of Jalandhar, Hoshiarpur, Kapurthala and Nawanshahr ­districts, and which has over six million of its natives settled abroad. It is believed that every family in Doaba has at least one ­member living overseas. The gate to Talhan village has a cement model of a British Airways aircraft sitting on top of it, and the road to Shaheed Baba Nihal Singh Gurdwara is lined with shops selling toy models of international carriers such as Lufthansa, British Airways, Air Canada, etc, priced between Rs 50 and Rs 550.

I also think people of color feel that since they cannot be white the only way to have some acceptance in that society is to marry a white person. But why so desperate for acceptance? I dont care whether someone likes me or not and neither am i changing my name just to get better job opportunities. It is what it is and this is what we all should work with rather than changing ourselves to please others.

Lack of self-worth and opportunism. I think they (sellout men) believe that they are now part of a better society (and from a socio-economic perspective they probably are), and marrying like that can open up career doors. I do believe that apnay are less inclined to do this than a lot of other blokes. Sociopaths are also interesting in this respect. They don't usually feel a sense of fraternity or community like some people do, and make moves like this because it opens up doors for them in mainstream society.

2,000 Indian students scammed as 3 Canadian colleges shut after bankruptcy They are staging rallies to highlight their plight. Toronto: Over 2,000 Indian students, who face an uncertain future after three Montreal colleges closed last month by declaring bankruptcy, have demanded intervention by the Canadian government to give them justice. The CCSQ College, M. College, and CDE College had collected millions of dollars in tuition fees from these students before closing. The students, many of whom have moved to different cities to stay with friends or relatives, say they have been scammed. They are staging rallies to highlight their plight. As some of the impacted students and their supporters raised slogans for justice at a rally in the Toronto suburb of Brampton on Wednesday, anxiety was writ large on their faces. They shouted slogans seeking intervention by the Canadian government to help them complete their courses from other colleges. Those who were nearing completion of their courses must be allowed to finish on the basis of their old credits, they demanded. Many said they are running out of money as they cannot legally work for 20 hours a week – as allowed to international students. Manpreet Kaur, a student from Longowal in Punjab, said she had deposited over $14,000 annual fee at M. College and was waiting to start her classes in early childhood education in January when the college declared bankruptcy. “When I landed in Canada on October 9, I was told that since the college couldn’t find enough students the classes would start in January. But on January 6, students got an email about the college going bankrupt. It smacks of a scam,” said Manpreet who finished her masters in computers in India before coming to Canada. Vishal Rana, a student from Karnal who was studying at CCSQ college to become medical office specialist, said, “I had just four months left of my 16-month course when the college suspended studies. I don’t know where to go.” Rana had paid $24,000 in fees. Harwinder Singh, who came from Pehwa in Haryana to study a two-year business management course at M. College, said, “I deposited $21,500 for this course and I have finished only six months of my course. I am surviving on some money I saved while working. I don’t know what will happen.” Gurkamaldeep Singh, a student from Moga, said he would have finished his business management course from M. College by June. “Now my biggest worry is whether I have to redo my course. We are told that the government has given the colleges to find buyers so that studies can resume.” Gurkamaldeep said the students should be allowed to complete the remaining part of their courses at other institutions. “We should give us course completion letters so that we can join other colleges and also apply for work permits in order to survive,” he said. Over 700 students, who were taking online classes sitting in India, are among those who have been impacted by the closure of these colleges. https://www.siasat.com/2000-indian-students-scammed-as-3-canadian-colleges-shut-after-bankruptcy-2277258/amp/

@proudkaur21 Shes American. idk how to feel about it. One hand im like whatever she says ppl going to doubt other side too many red flags. Also how can you be that deep asleep esp driving in India?! Another is they been together for few years too so she loved him? Reading the comments someone mentioned that Deeps brother told her and family to stay away from them. We will never know the truth unfortunately. Vaheguru Knows

Isn't it harder for international students to move to the UK compared to Canada? Maybe thats why more go to Canada leading to more death cases there. "Canada has become an ideal place for higher education studies...Canada has the benefit of lower overall costs of study and living" (from https://cubetoronto.com/canada/is-going-to-canada-worth-it-as-a-student/)

I think way more students from Punjab are coming to canada than uk. So we hear of more cases?

Yes accidents, suicides, murders. Every other day Day some news.

That's what I was saying. Everyday there is news about a punjabi student dying.

It's sad how many young international Sikh/Panjabi students die, get attacked or are caught in wrong things. Many leave for a better life but face awful loneliness and struggle to settle. International Student Crisis: Funeral home sending alarming number of bodies back to India International students are being exploited in Peel and they’re dying, say advocates 2 girls from Punjab die in Canada mishap Moga youth murdered in Canada in suspected hate crime Suicides Have Spiked Among Canada’s International Students UBCO homicide victim new resident to Canada (Harmandeep Kaur) Tarn Taran youth murdered in UK (his family had pledged 2 acres of agricultural land for arranging cash to settle him abroad) Student attacked for speaking Punjabi in Winnipeg park and his car destroyed by a group of teens 22 year old Gurjit Pal Singh shot dead in Texas Indian student (Harmanjot Singh Bhattal ) shot dead by uncle in Canada

UBCO homicide victim a new resident to Canada Harmandeep Kaur is being named as the victim from Saturday’s attack Harmandeep Kaur is being named as the homicide victim of Saturday’s attack at UBC Okanagan. Paramjit Singh Patara, vice-president of the Okanagan Sikh Temple, confirmed the 24-year-old woman’s name, saying she moved to Canada six years ago from India. Kuljit Pabla is a family member of Kaur’s and resides in West Kelowna. “We are devastated,” he said. “We just can’t comprehend why it happened,” said Pabla. “It just seems so senseless.” “She came to Canada, trying to progress her life.” She made the decision to move to Canada after discussions with her family. Pabla explained that her family chose Canada because they consider Canada a safe place. “Usually it is,” said Pabla. She initially went to school in the Lower Mainland, but to improve her chances of being granted permanent residency she decided to start working. Pabla said that she was a hard worker and worked many jobs, including being a supervisor at a Five Guys restaurant. “She worked many jobs to fast-track her permanent residency,” said Pabla. Kaur had been granted her permanent residency just three weeks prior to the devastating attack. Pabla said she and her family were elated. Most recently, she had been working for Paladin security as an officer at UBCO, hoping to one day attend school there, said Pabla. “Her goal was to continue (her) education as she saved up money, with support from the family,” he said. She would tell Pabla and his wife “I want to be like them,” when she saw the kids studying at the university while she worked security. “She wanted to be there as a student,” said Pabla. A tribute to Harmandeep Kaur is displayed on the UBCO campus. (Jordy Cunningham/Capital News) She was attacked early in the morning on Sat. Feb. 26 after working an overnight shift on campus. Kelowna RCMP announced Monday that Kaur had succumbed to her injuries and that officers were investigating her death as a homicide. The attacker was identified shortly after the incident and was apprehended under the Mental Health Act. His identity has not been released and he remains in hospital and faces possible murder charges. A press release from Kelowna RCMP indicated that the suspect was an employee of the university at the time of the attack. Lesley Cormack, deputy vice-chancellor and principal at UBCO, issued a statement regarding the attack stating the campus is working with RCMP to provide any assistance required in the investigation. “All of our security personnel are deeply valued members of our campus community. They work tirelessly every day to keep our students, faculty and staff safe and to be a welcoming, friendly and reassuring face when help is needed,” she said. Patara explained that Kaur’s family is currently travelling from India to Canada and added that the temple has offered to pay for the funeral and expenses. Kaur also has family in Squamish, the lower mainland and the U.S. “No one deserved this, but she definitely didn’t deserve this,” said Pabla. During Monday’s Kelowna City Council meeting Kara Triance, Kelowna RCMP superintendent stated that three of four homicides in the city last year involved a mental health component. RCMP calls for service involving mental health-related issues were up slightly in 2021, at 3,105, compared with 2,899 in 2020. Triance said there is a need to respond to multiple different areas, such as the need for care while incarcerated, the need for mental health and substance use support and dealing with mental health calls in general. https://www.pentictonwesternnews.com/news/ubco-homicide-victim-new-resident-to-canada/

I haven't watched it yet.