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  1. singhnian greet each other in playground at the end of the day with fateh then ask if they smell of the tardka they have just been cooking. We all know that cooking smells are not great when they cling ... at least we don't smell like boiled cabbage like the white women used to back in the day
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  2. Watched this today and agreed with Singh ji
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  3. How often do you hear European/American history being openly uncovered like this?
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  4. Bro are you that uninformed? You do know nauvain padshah was born in Amritsar? There may have been compelling reasons for what you mention. Inter-family disputes that took a back seat to Guru ji's greater mission. Sikhs flocked to see the Guru [Tegh Bahadhur] and presented him with many gifts and offerings. One who was not so happy about the whole affair was the troublesome Dhir Mal, grandson of Guru Hargobind who had wanted people to acclaim him as the Guru since he was in possession of the Guru Granth Sahib written by Guru Arjan Dev. Dhir Mal became so angry that he planned an assassination attempt. He sent Shihan a masand (priest) loyal to him and some men to attack the Guru while he slept. Dhir Mal's men attacked the house of Guru Tegh Bahadur, shot the Guru and ransacked his belongings. Luckily Guru Tegh Bahadur was not seriously wounded. In retaliation loyal Sikhs raided Dhir Mal's house, looting it including the original copy of the Guru Granth Sahib and presented all of the bounty to the Guru as revenge. Guru Tegh Bahadur believed in forgiveness and ordered all of his property returned, including the original copy of the Guru Granth Sahib. Guru Tegh Bahadur now accepted the role of leading the Sikhs and set out on a number of missionary journeys. He visited Kiratpur and then made his way to the other great centers of Sikhism, Tarn Taran, Khadur Sahib, Goindwal and Amritsar. At Amritsar Guru Tegh Bahadur bathed in the sacred pool but he was refused entry into the Golden Temple which was under the control of Harji, grandson of that other famous troublemaker to the Gurus, Prithi Chand. Guru Tegh Bahadur then journeyed back to Kiratpur. Here he encountered some Sodhi family jealousy and decided to found a new township. The Guru acquired a tract of land from the raja of Kahlur and founded the town of Chak Nanaki in 1665, named in honour of his mother (later to be known as Anandpur Sahib). The Guru now continued his journeys to spread the messages and teachings of Sikhism among the masses across the land. https://www.sikhs.org/guru9.htm So dasmesh pita may have made a decision to carry on their mission of spreading dharam and organising Sikhs for the current and forthcoming dharamyudh at that point. The decision was the right one, as Singhs subsequently wrested control over Amritsar afterwards.
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  5. If it is so special, please explain why it was unnecessary for Guru Gobind Singh to visit it, much less establish control over it.
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  6. Look how low some apnay have got. And this isn't an isolated case (see that youtube channel):
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  8. I don't think the Sikhs who joined the British army did it for moral reasons. The biggest factor was probably money.
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  9. Maybe, also, long standing 'stayinyourplaceism' from anglos. Possibly rooted in a dysfunctional dynamic between the two communities from the colonial era. Goray were obviously trying to silence Sikh voices way before sullay got into positions of power here. Look how long this stuff goes back in that report.
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  10. True.Those in power now won't let their power go away so easily but it will still happen.
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  11. It should But if today's separate state happen, will the idiots we have today let panj pyare lead it?.................
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  12. If Khalistan happens the Panj Pyare of Akaal Takhat should lead as government.This is what is mentioned in Bhai Rama Singh ji's book.He said that in his dream of Khalsa Raj,Panj Pyare led government.
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  13. This could either be the best thing that happen to punjabi- cause punjab has a lot of poterntial, or the worst- people vote for the same idiots and it just becomes a living hell with no power. Right now, with the people's mentalities, its leaning towards the worst.
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  14. I'm all in for an independant state, but how do we know that sikhs will have it easy in the separate state? What if the same people that are managing current punjab, start managing the separate state?
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  15. There is a need to supplement with cholorphyll rich foods , iodine rich foods, iron, vitamin C , Vitamin A, Zinc and Vitamin D what is happening is the pneumonia is being triggered in the secondary stage of infection there is a major immune system onslaught to virus buildup in blood stream and lungs . This is burning through the antioxidants especially C (remember this is not ascorbic acid but vitamin C with its accompanying flavanoids so go for fruits especially berriesrosehips, acerola and acai are especially strong). Then interstital fluid is leaking into lungs which cause the pneumonia. If you continue with high vitamin C and D the fluid will be reabsorbed and airways will become clear . However just when you think you are clear you get hit by Hypoxia -inability to oxygenate the blood properly as the red blood cell cannot hold the oxygen efficiently this why magnesium and iron and vit C working together with Zinc will save you from collapse and return to ICU.
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  16. dr berg has lost it mentally but Dr Campbell is a sensible soul ...
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  17. You will come across all types of people in life and if you come across a Jat who thinks he is superior then you will come across the same amount of other castes who will try and belittle Jats. There are stupid people everywhere. I think it was Eleanor Roosevelt who said "No one can make you feel inferior without your consent" If you are confident in yourself than no amount of idiocy about caste supremacy can have an effect on you. The greatest danger is when you start to fall into the same idiocy but claiming that your caste is higher than the caste of the person.
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  18. It is the proliferation of Akhand paths, Sukhmani paths and other programmes for birthdays that has exacerbated this. People start to serve guests like at home rather than serving the sangat.
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  19. People will just go to a different Gurdwara.
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  20. Yep some people treat langar hall like a soup kitchen. If they just served Dal That would deter people who think Gurdwara is some kind of canteen for free food. Also langar should be plain. Not fancy. Ie so many dishes and sweets. Ect. One improvement I have seen is we now have a leaflets area in Gurdwaras for people to learn.
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  21. I don't know who this Baba is, but I do agree that simple langars are better.
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  22. But those people don't have a voice, or at worst are viewed with a considerable amount of condescension and mistrust. Such people are abandoned and left muttering on the sidelines at the injustice of it all, which is where it's understood that they can't affect anything. This status-obsessed world we occupy seems to assume that if you haven't "made it" there must be some serious deficiencies in the individual, and therefore most of what such people have to offer is taken with a pinch of salt or, at worst, even disregarded just because it doesn't originate from a place of supposed authority. So how does that particular individual ever transfer their thoughts and philosophies to tangible action -- in a system that perhaps purposefully yet unobtrusively makes it very difficult for those who don't follow the narrative and those without "official endorsements" to succeed -- when they aren't afforded the grace to do so? You cannot participate and then win a game that is fixed. To even try and play is futile. So you either give up or you destroy the game, hoping there are enough like-minded individuals ready to flock to your cause to eliminate the idea of a disgruntled lone-wolf raging at an unjust world.
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  23. Can you not feel the growing suspicion amongst intelligent people (of all backgrounds) regarding modern mainstream culture? I think they are suspicious of it but feel powerless against it. I think we may have tough times ahead. We need bold, strong, inspiring leadership with foresight in the diaspora. We can't hide behind conservatism away from the world (like so many try), because we'll just get chipped away at and become relevant then (death by a thousand cuts). We need things in the open between us. Unless we get dynamic again we'll be in deep doo doo. It's a bad enough that we have all and sundry trying to pull the wool over our eyes without being able to trust and rely on each other. There is an obvious link between how disunited we are (or as Ranjeet put it - a low trust society) and how much we will be getting targeted by others. And by this I mean for ideological conversions. So you can have all the external insignias of the faith but internally you are converted to another way of thinking - and when this is done well - a person would actually have no clue that they had been converted at all. Personally I feel that the whole debate about colonialism and how it led to mass mind-manipulation amongst our quom is actually very relevant to today. But it is SO contentious (right now) with families being indoctrinated for a good few generations now, that it is hard to broach without serious backlashes. And this looks like a block on intellectual growth to me. I think in the UK, the truth finally emerging about what is now known as 'grooming' might be waking more people up. We have to show them that certain state operatus (like the police, media, government departments) aren't the benign forces we might be led to believe but sometimes actively acting against Sikhs or covertly supporting others who are anti-Sikh. We need to get an independent, well informed, sophisticated mindset as common amongst apnay - which is no easy task given their proclivities......lol We also need to get more discerning regarding our leadership. We need people who aren't scared to face and counter established forces and their deeply entrenched narratives effectively. On the plus (coming from an old schooler) we have seen some of this happening with Bhai Jagraj Singh and SIkh Youth UK lately. But it still needs to grow, until most apnay are broadly singing from the same hymn book - with all their diversity. Disabling those apnay chaaplooses that they wheel out to counter any progressive or challenging narrative we come out with must be a top priority too.
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  24. Do you see a future for people like us of certain values and frames of mind (across the races and cultures) in the UK and Europe, Dal? I'm surprised at the brazen besharmpunna on display at the moment. The man behind the curtain seems to no longer care that his presence has become known if you know what I mean.
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  25. I was actually about to write out a reply to that particular post (even typed it out) but I refrained from doing so because I thought he's probably someone really young and going to take it personally but the whole post was very childlike, defensive and was an unnecessary contribution. More importantly like you mentioned it's a biography written by his successor - although a very inspirational read (SeKinehya) it is not scripture or Sikh history. It's a shame people are unable to have a healthy dialog with people asking questions about the Sikh faith, perhaps the lady who opened the topic will be able to appreciate that on this forum anyone can come and write a post and that if she wants a more clear answer she is better off discussing the religion with people in real life that are more educated and representative of Sikhi and therefore are somewhat qualified to answer questions.
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  26. What's the point of trying to tell her this? Are we expecting her to leave Christianity for Sikhism? Secondly, you gave no context for what it is you are quoting. People posted above that Jesus is mentioned nowhere in the Sikh scriptures, so it would be quite confusing to read what you wrote below. For anyone who doesn't know, the quote is from a biography of the late saint Harnam Singh, a saint of the last half of the 20th century written by his successor. Finally the quote does not say that Jesus follows Guru Sahib's path, it merely claims that Jesus wants his followers to follow the Guru's path.
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  27. Seriously, bro, that's the reason? If someone makes up a religion with 20 leaders, will it be 2X as powerful as Sikhism? This is an important point. Even Christians don't claim that Jesus Christ wrote the Bible. Because it has a 100 or so more pages? That's an opinion that we might have as Sikhs, but what use is it to say to a Christian? Yes, that's true. None of the New Testament is really meant to be sung.
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  28. Our Gurus are so great that even Jesus appeared to Baba Harnaam Singh ji and told Baba ji how blessed he is to be following Guru Sahib's path.
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  29. Tempted is the wrong word, it implies that they were thinking of accepting Maya and what it will give. Guru Sahib wasn't tempted, he was just shown Maya and not once thought about accepting any of it, just read their Mahaan Paavan Pavitar Bani in Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji Maharaaj.
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  30. Sikhi is much more powerful than Christianity because we have 10 Gurus. We have Guru Granth Sahib (actually written by the Gurus themselves). Our scripture is much more vast, has a deeper meaning and can be sung.
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  31. Sikhism is more than just a religion, that is just a part of it - I would say it has been made for the people to protect their freedom and to save them from oppression which I regret to say is usually caused/manipulated by the stakeholders in a religion and those that influence it's direction. Sikhs do not believe in the abrahamic definition of a devil as an entity but instead refer to the negativity in this world as a collective (what we call 'Kalyug'). We believe everything is the creator including existence and so it wouldn't make sense for there to be a God vs Devil stereotype. The Sikhs have been tempted during many strenuous episodes of war/betrayal and a good example of this would be the two younger children of the 10th leader (Guru Gobind Singh Jee) - both under the age of 10 who were offered riches and kingdom-ship however they stood by their faith resulting in their demise (martyrdom) by being bricked alive. Again, the mughals who tempted and then killed them would not so much be referred to as the DEVIL but certainly the evil amongst men.
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  32. Welcome welcome my Christian friend. No not at all. Any faith is free to join and partake in discussion. We do not try and convert people like many other faiths do. Ask away. Also this is a video explaining some beliefs of our faith that you may find useful.
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  33. Hey, welcome! I'm sure nobody will have a problem with you. Sikhism is a Dharmic faith. We respect other faiths (which would include Christianity) and their freedom to practice these faiths but do not regard Jesus Christ as a prophet in any special regard. I think there is very little if any mention of him in our scripture or even in any historical literature of ours.
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  34. I don't know whether I should laugh or cry at this....... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/landlord-bans-coloured-people-curry-smell-racism-fergus-wilson-kent-a7653851.html
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  35. What? I thought we were talking about tarka and cooking methods and chimneys/hoods: http://www.amazon.in/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=chimney How did we end up on the subject of Kes, which doesn't have anything to do with tarka? Does the fact that some cut their hair off mean that they also stop using the same hoods/chimneys they used in Punjab? Not to mention the fact that Punjabi Hindus eat and prepare the same food as us.
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  36. some of us don't have the luxury of time what with all the multitasking hehe ... seriously we always had the windows open whenever we cooked back on the estate and did not smell like the bengalis or nigerians (fish curry) . I even had people comment on my lack of smell ... amazing things soap and windows ...
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  37. I kind of agree with the sentiment, but if he expressed it in a disparaging way he's an 1di0t. I know a couple of people who rent out properties, and they're dead set against people with cats and dogs due to the smell and the hair. There's even one guy who, lmao, tells the estate agent not to rent to Pakistani families, because apparently they turn the place it a 5hithole after a few weeks. If you've spent cash repairing and furnishing a home for it to be trashed in weeks, then it's obviously going to hurt. But with the curry smell, even i cant stand it. Love the food; i eat nothing but daala and sabjiya, but i ensure the smell does not waft through my home, get into my clothes, etc. That stuff is extracted out, lol! I just think because this is coming from a wealthy gora, people are getting upset. All of us Punjabis born and bred in the West think the exact same thing behind closed doors. We don't wallow in the pungent aroma of tadkha and pretend it's awesome. At least i don't. This is another example of liberal, right-on goreh getting offended on our behalf, and blowing the issue out of all proportion.
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  38. I know right ? How did this actually became a story one landlord says something stupid , he's entitled to select who he/she wants to rent to especially if it's a furnished gaff just like I would never rent to smokers and unclean people.
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  39. Act like what? Prepare tarka on the carpet? Rub the tarka into the carpet on purpose to make sure it smells? No decent urban Punjabi family (living in Punjab) has a kitchen without either a window-mounted exhaust fan or a chimney/hood from various Indian or international companies like Elica or Faber. Rural-style kitchens are all totally open, so there's no smell accumulation. So, what are you talking about?
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  40. That's why in Canada, Sikh families have two kitchens. One is the show kitchen and another kitchen for tharka. In the US,Sikh families use their garages.
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  41. I've come across some wrong translations of Gurbani on apps such as Gurbani anywhere and also on the website searchgurbai.com - From what I understand they all use the same translations as the same mistakes are on a lot of different apps etc. This is unnaceptable and such applications which portray Gurbani in such a way should not be available. I'm going to display 2 examples of worrying mistakes that I have come across recently. Example #1 http://searchgurbani.com/guru_granth_sahib/shabad/3260/line/2 (You just have to read the translations for a few tuks and it becomes clear what i'm on about) Example #2 (A more dangerous example as this is changing Gurbani itself) On the android Gurbani Search app if you search for this shabad : http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=10073 It changes a word on the 2nd tuk. Instead of Gur Simar, it changes it to Gur Daas. This needs to be checked out, all the Gurbani displayed on apps made available to the public need to be reviewed by 2-3 panthic bodies who take their time to check the Gurbani and make sure its translations and the Bani itself is accurate. If you pay attention to the first example, that seems pretty deliberate. I'm sure many others have had similar experiences, would be great if you could also contribute and hopefully somebody who is in touch with the people who put such Gurbani sources out there can get this looked at.
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  42. I've checked against an old Amrit Keertan pothi and it is definetly Gur Simar. Either way only one of them is right and we should ensure that such cases arn't happening.
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  43. I've seen both Gur Simar/Daas being used in various places. That's the problem when you "copy from a copy"
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  44. Fateh Jee, Wanted to discuss about a loose dastaar. I've had this problem for ages where some days my dastaar just doesn't come out nice and firm as I would like it and there are days when I tie it too tight and my head hurts. I tie a taksali type dastaar I guess? I don't know just a gol dastaar but recently i've been thinking maybe to get that "almost" guaranteed firmness I should start tying a smaller dastaar underneath my first dastaar (bunga??) and maybe that can help. I'm trying to find some guide or some other singh maybe post one of what im kinda looking for. I don't want a massive huge nihang style dastaar, it's not what im looking for really. I just wanna strong gol dastaar that I tie over a bunga which isn't huge I think. Can someone help? I really hate it when my dastaar feels like it can come off. I don't get this problem all the time but when I do it's kinda annoying.
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  45. I do tie my dastaar over my ears however, not on the external earlobe. So like it's kinda on the top part of the ear only. My ears hurt if I cover them all
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  46. So basically, the first 3 lar's from the actual dastaar (not the keski) need to be as the bottom base around my forehead and not slowly (step by step) going up you mean right? and the last lar from the dastaar needs to come all the back down again or what do you mean but the last sentence?
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