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After they’ve turned out on the Muslims they will turn on us as well.

Good point. In fact, in the old days, there simply were not enough birs of Gur Granth Sahib ji to go around. So prakash of shasters was done in some Gurdwaras. You can matha tek to a Gutka Sahib, too.

When you are at home, you can do ardas in front of sastar as well.

Stupid thought.

In general, no one really uses forums a lot anymore and growth is stagnant. Usually they're populated by OG users and once they stop posting and cease their activity, others tend to follow suit. There are still some socials that have engaging talks about Sikhi. You can try Twitter (X), Discord, Reddit, Tiktok, gurdwareh group chats, etcetera. Idk man. Sikhi as a whole is pretty much dying tbf. It makes sense that you'll see less engagement over time. A lot of people contend that the religion is being revived in the west, in particular by Gen Z. The zoomer lot is definitely kind of active, but they're mostly all talk and no action. It's like some kind of flex to feign religiosity. It's not just Sikhi though, it's all of 'em. Not only that, but at one point you just grow up and have more serious matters to attend to. I used to be online for hours and hours and mess around and post but now I don't even have time to do anything b/c I'm spending time with my family & getting married soon. Now, I'm just worried about making babies. Everything's a blur. There are probably others that feel the same as well.

I guess easier ways of learning have taken precedence. There are so many Youtube channels and podcasts available that people are more ready to listen for knowledge at their own leisure. There are so many great kathas available online that take months to listen, so that people may not really get the time to come here and write.

Bro, as stated above, you can do whatever you want. No one is snatching your starched turban, 2 weeks old, from your head. But what you want is for Guru's Singhs to call your turban in accordance with rehit. That's not going to happen. Also, why can't you simply tie your starched turban fresh every day? (Genuine question)

Bro, there's nothing wrong with adding starch to your clothes to enhance their ability to "stand". The objection is not to the starch. The objection is to taking it off in one swoop and putting it back on, like a hat. "Like a hat" doesn't mean throwing it on the ground. Do Englishmen throw their hats on the ground? "Like a hat" means taking it off and putting it on a shelf. Don't pretend to be naive, bro. The rehit, as stated by Bhai Nand Lal ji, is "paag chunaai kar bandai", that is, tie the turban section by section. No one is forcing you to do anything, but please don't pretend you're following the original rehit of Guru Maharaj.

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and the gatka akharas haven't improved. I saw stuff on BBC and it was embarrassing. Still teaching bhangra moves, morris dancing and I came across an infinity symbol stick move taught as a beginner move??!!

Akaaal!

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Your chacha should read a book. More importantly. Itias and read rehitname. Also read sgpc rehit which allows Sikhs to consume meat.

Punjab, mate. Especially Amritsar and Ferozepur regions.

History is being repeated but in a systematic way. Its being re-written.

A 17-year old kid in the UK stabbed 10 people and killed 3 children. This is quite a horrific incident. What makes this story nuts is the fact the British folks blamed Muslims when it was (according to media reports) a Black British Born kid brought up in Southport, England (he turned 18). There was rioting followed by a police van being burnt in front of a mosque. I have doubts that it was black British born kid-probably a British born Anglo-Saxon kid, just because the amount of support the groups involved in the riots get-but then again I might be wrong. This however is a clear indication in the times we are living in. A innocent 17-year old kid killing 3 children is crazy.

Oxford English Dictionary: Worship: reverence or veneration paid to a being or power regarded as supernatural or divine. The problem is missionaries don't think of Guru Granth Sahib ji as supernatural or divine. Rather they think Gurbani is merely some poetry about God, who is divine. Of course, this is totally wrong because 1) Gurbani is divine and is God and 2) Gurbani says "the Pothi (book) is the abode of God".

It's the missionary mindset. They would either deny that Sikhs bowed before Guru Nanak Dev ji or would say that that was only "respect" and that they only "worshipped" God. The reason, again, is they don't believe Guru is God. No, bro, it's the same thing. But just in case Veer Manpreet Singh thinks it's different, we can just say "Fine, we won't worship Guru Granth Sahib ji, we will do pooja of Guru ji." Part of this is caused by us using English terms and then quibbling over the definitions. If we just used the word pooja, there wouldn't be a problem. Also, Sikhs don't read Gurbani. If they did, they wouldn't fall prey to missionary preaching.

Umm, so you're upset that this jatha did Chaupai the same way it's being done at Harimandar Sahib for 100 years? Shouldn't you be upset at the manager of Darbar Sahib? I'm not saying that Sikhs who are aware of certain issues shouldn't do the longer Chaupai, but there are only so many battles you can fight. Instead of calling some jatha traitors because they're doing the (for better or worse) "standard" Chauapai published by the SGPC, it would be better to change things from the central point. You can't fault the average Sikh for picking up the average Gutka and doing paath.

Basically, Harimandir Sahib is holy because it's a place of singing praise of God: ਗਉੜੀ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ Gauri 5th Guru. ਧੰਨੁ ਇਹੁ ਥਾਨੁ ਗੋਵਿੰਦ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਏ ॥ Blessed is this place, where they sing praises of the World Master. ਕੁਸਲ ਖੇਮ ਪ੍ਰਭਿ ਆਪਿ ਬਸਾਏ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ The Lord Himself Blesseth them with peace and pleasure. But a photo isn't that. It's not the real thing. Similarly, a statue of a deity is not the deity. So we shouldn't be worshipping the photo. One type of partakh (immediate) darshan of Guru ji is going to the Gurdwara to see Guru Granth Sahib ji. Because the Book is the abode of God: ਪੋਥੀ ਪਰਮੇਸਰ ਕਾ ਥਾਨੁ ॥ This Holy Book (the Adi Granth) is the abode of the Transcendent Lord. ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਗਾਵਹਿ ਗੁਣ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਪੂਰਨ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ Whosoever sings the World-Lord's praise in the society of the saints, he is blessed with the perfect Divine knowledge. Pause. p1226 There is another level of Darshan which Guru ji pines for and which is above merely going to the Gurdwara: ਕਰਿ ਦਇਆ ਮਇਆ ਦਇਆਲ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਹੋਹੁ ਦੀਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਰਾ ॥ Show compassion and kindness, O Merciful Lord, and by king to the meek. ਬਿਨਵੰਤਿ ਨਾਨਕ ਦਰਸ ਪਿਆਸੇ ਮਿਲਿ ਦਰਸਨ ਸੁਖੁ ਸਾਰਾ ॥੧॥ Supplicates Nanak, I am thirsting for a sight of Thee. By obtaining a view of Thine I receive all the happiness. This Darshan is found through Bani and worship: ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਣੀ ਹਰਿ ਹਰਿ ਤੇਰੀ ॥ My Lord God! Thy Gurubani is Nectar. ਸੁਣਿ ਸੁਣਿ ਹੋਵੈ ਪਰਮ ਗਤਿ ਮੇਰੀ ॥ By continuously hearing it, I have obtained the highest rank. ਜਲਨਿ ਬੁਝੀ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਹੋਇ ਮਨੂਆ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਪਾਏ ਜੀਉ ॥੧॥ The burning within me is extinguished and my soul is rendered cool on having the sight of the True Guru

The picture of Harimandir is not Harimandir Sahib. Best is to go to Gurdwara and do ardas at a quiet time. Just stand to the side to allow people to matha tek if they are coming in. While it's true that God's everywhere, we don't have the eyes to see him at our current spiritual level so the patakh darshan of Guru Ji is important. ਜੀਅ ਕੀ ਬਿਰਥਾ ਹੋਇ ਸੁ ਗੁਰ ਪਹਿ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਕਰਿ ॥ Regarding thy mind's woe, make supplication before thy Guru. p519 ਤੁਧੁ ਆਗੈ ਅਰਦਾਸਿ ਹਮਾਰੀ ਜੀਉ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਸਭੁ ਤੇਰਾ ॥ Before Thee is my supplication. My soul and body are all Thine. p383

The Ardas is more powerful when done at Gurdwara. However Waheguru is everywhere (Nirgun).

process is to find a vichola and then the vichola talks between your family and theirs. The process should be similar to how rishta is done in India side!

Lol this is so common. This is the average wedding. Plus nowadays auntiyaan and young girls are dressing half naked in lenghas and saris and stuff or literally sometimes even a western dress. Men freely dance with women. Plus they hire some naked belly dancer or hire some Bhangra team dancing like monkeys at ur wedding. It’s awful. I assume it’s Punjabi culture. Let’s not mention all the men getting drunk and trying to hit on the women at the weddings. So many young folks skip the gurudwara wedding too because it’s boring and they can’t get lit even though that’s the main part of the wedding & most important. Amritdhari men and women are less likely to engage in such activities tho, I don’t see them doing this, when they get invited to such weddings they sit in the corner and refuse to engage or dance and such. I’m marrying into a non Punjabi family and me and my partner went to a Sikh wedding recently because he’s never experienced one and he was shocked and said he thought Sikhs were way more conservative.

Leaving aside Guru ji, the general question of taking afeem (opium) in limited quantities for war/medical wounds is simply unproblematic. When you go to the hospital, they give you morphine. What do you think morphine is? It's an opiate. Even codeine (cough syrup) is an opiate! Ever had a cough? Granted, it is against Gurmat to take opium or other drugs for the fun of it.

I purchased my Gutka Sahib from the bookshop adjacent to Gurdwara Dukh Niwaran Sahib Patiala… You could try the UK Gurdwara shops, or other UK Gurbani stores…

We are screwing eachother over to even care about religion.

back then was waaaay different. ppl didn’t attend higher education or have much to do after the age of like… 13, lol. you’d have 13 year olds boys and girls that know how to do kethi, cook entire meals, etc nowadays even 22 year olds are extremely immature and can be sheltered. the average person doesn’t know how to do anything except their 9-5 which they are probably half arsing as well.

what’s a rajput jatt sikh you’re either jatt or you’re not jatt

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Good to know that our morning prayers don't disrupt your morning shaving routine.

*bump There's quite a bit of crazy stuff written on this forum, this is probably why this site is down sometimes. But I agree the OP, the future is not looking good at the moment

This is why people used to get married earlier in puratan times. Think about it, nowadays you legit have to be brahmacharya at ages when you're supposed to be married and producing children, which historically speaking, is unprecedented outside of the Sants in Indic tradition.

Obviously every sikh has to learn gurmukhi, the phonetics in gurmukhi cannot be accurately translated to other language, however reading baani in english or hindi or spanish or whatever is better than reading no baani at all for people who cannot read gurmukhi yet. I think everyone should read Guru Granth Sahib ji as many times as possible, with meanings, you learn so much. It's also good to read dasam granth and sarabloh granth. We should read as much as possible imo, we're lacking a lot of knowledge in sikhi. Kirtan is essential imo, if anyone has the opportunity to learn raag kirtan, they should, and make sure kids know kirtan as well, it's the one thing that connects you. That's all part of religion though, learning gurmukhi, reading baani, learning about sikhi, and learning sikhi is for sikhs, not punjabis, we have to remember that the two are not synonymous.

Because they know there is a market for making money and so they want to move away from their actual image in the world - that of a failing, violence ridden state, which cannot feed it's own people. They have an ambition to entice Sikhs to their side, by claiming that they "love" and "respect" us as much as Hindus/India does. They want Sikhs to gush over the hospitality offered to them by Pakistan. These pilgrims who go there are kind of roped into interviews. These Sikhs should be asking two very vital questions: 1. Why have Sikhs paid for the passage for to Darbar Sahib, Kartarpur, when the land of that Gurdwara extends to the border anyway and why have Pak Govt claimed they have spent millions on the corridor, when they have also taken millions and millions of Gurdwara land revenue since 1947? 2. Why has Shaheed Ganj Bhai Mani Singh and Gurdwara Lal Khoohi not be returned to Sikhs after they have been taken over by Muslims? Gurdwara Lal Khoohi is the a Gurdwara to remember the site of Guru Arjan Dev Ji's torture before Guru Sahib vanished in the Ravi, where Gurdwara Dehra Sahib is sited. Iinstead of asking these questions the Sikh visitors just gush over the arrangements made, even though they are paying for them in VISA fees etc.

Unfortunately our people have a tendency to want to replicate what someone else had done. For years there was never a Punjabi radio station, then one started and a few years later there were nearly a dozen. The same happened with the satellite channel, Sikh channel started and then another channel came up and then another etc. This is pointless, what is needed is 1 Sikh channel or two channels, 1 in Punjabi and the other in English for the youth and for parchar. Ravi Singh started his karobar in 1999 and now we have over a dozen organisations who seem to think that we are just on this planet to transfer our wealth onto other communities. There's Langar Aid, Hemkunt Foundation, United Sikhs etc. Now on twitter you cannot read a few tweets about Sikhs without some pointless tweet from one of the organisations banging their drums about how great they are how they are helping humanity.

A Pugh is a Pugh.. end of.

Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh ??? Sangatji Daas received amrit yesterday.?????? Vaheguru ji ka khalsa Vaheguru ji ki fateh

People who starch their paghs also gell and glue their dharis, this is probably even worse. Your dhari is supposed to flow not be plastered to your face. Most people who glue their dharis to their face have damaged their dharis and have bald patches in their dhari.

Thanks.

All i have to say is Niddar Singh is awesome, but his views are miles away from True Sikhi, like learning from a Monk, you go there for the War Art not the Philosophy

Muay Thai, Boxers, Wrestlers, Silat students and all other forms of martial artists have come to the akhara to train and learn. If SV was rubbish, surely in the 15 yrs of Nidar Singh teaching there would be an incident where he got beaten or the flaws of the art were highlighted. This has not happened, and instead top martial artists are organising seminars with Nidar Singh. The question should be, as a Sikh, how much are you really searching for the truth?

Ever heard of something called a Kirpan/Kard? Its that thing all Amritdhari Sikhs are supposed to carry. If you think Krav Maga is the best, then stop trolling forums and practise. For someone who posts so much I doubt you even train in any art. For those who do SV, if they have understood its effectiveness then there is no need to convince someone on the net. Anyone who doubts can come along to the akhara and test it out. This has always been the case. As SV opens up to the worlds martial artists, its ability to hold its own and receive acknowledgement speaks much more then some random singh on a forum who even doubts his own indiginous art, and licks the boot of the firangi. When Nidar Singh comes to USA, i will let you know and you can go beat him yourself. Talking only goes so far, pick up your weapons and lay down your challenge.