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All, Please vote for Harjit Gill on the following site, please pass it on to as many people as possible www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/top100 Vote for Harjit Gill Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

All, Please vote for Harjit Gill on the following site, please pass it on to as many people as possible www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/top100 Vote for Harjit Gill Wahe Guru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahe Guru Ji Ki Fateh

quote from boss member pretending to be 47 jatha i have never said anything about belonging to any crew or group, im an individual, dnt need to pretend to be a part of anything! sorry but u dont hold the rights over the name of a gun. and be careful about what u post on the internet. you have jus told us all that some young singhs have access to these guns ... given that this is illegal in the UK, you may have jus given sum govt clown some more information on the singhs. well done. i advice u edit ur post and admin can edit this one as well. serious singh, think before you type man! i am not editing nothing star and i am not appealing to no one. read my post before you go running to the police and m15, joker. i said them bwoys seen those things, we have also seen a nucleur explosion on tv, so should we be scared to say that because you are a police informer. you think government clowns you refer to are busy making dossiers on what people have seen! you must need help mentally. next time you want to go running to 5 0 bout singhs make sure u have some thing decent to say, harrassing law abiding sons of the guru, u should be ashamed of yourself. i dont think u believe in guru manyo granth are u part of a cult? you comedian, obvious you have no knowledge of street, you are like the gadhar administraters of the gora raj, touts that crave jagirdhari and sell their sardhari. whats the point in being educated when your argument has no logic or meaning, dont try and be sensationalist like you r saving the quam by getting a post deleted, u r a plastic interlectual!!!!!!!!!!! we r what we r, we are what guru sahib made us, u r straining to sound clever, desperation is the breeding ground of stupidity, may u have many off spring. and before you go scuttling of to the grass a singh hotline, i did not say spring as in springfield 303, chosen tool of sant's men, i said spring. maybe u belong in springfield, u could be smithers, another johle chuk gadhar who likes to please people with reports and i before u report me to the gay loby, i am not, at least personally, questioning ur sexuality, others may come to thei own conclusions after reading ur posts.

this one goes out to ak47, not the real ak47 jatha, but the boss clown who is pretending to be 47 crew. if you are so anti retric why u called ak47, the brothers have seem those things but i bet you havent. why do you want to attach your name with bravery when boss group have not hurt an ants leg in 20 years. as 4 rai it is obvious you and him wrote that post together. a donation is a donation true, but a loan is also a loan! for some one who is not too bothered about rai or what we write you are paying close attention to what we say. as for gupt kaur, i hope your jatha is respecting her isath, all singhnia are to be honoured, you should remember that. these guys are using ak 47 name to badhnam the jatha, i have recently been approached by a member of the real ak47 group and believe me these guys are true sikhs. they got love for mona sikhs not like boss lot who are haters. i appeal to all sikhs to boycott anyone who has stolen money from the guru ghars, anyone who has stolen grants under the banner of sikhi, any youth jatha that has sexually abused bibia, any one who misrepresented the turban and used it for political gain, anyone who is not even from southall but claims to represent the southall youth, anyone who thinks your sikhi is judged by the size of your turban and kirpan, anyone who arranges sikh camps in order to hang around with bibia. i am not going to name names, if is for the sangat to decide. the sangat is the judge and jury. if you recognise the woes listed above and their perpitraitors, it is up to you on your next cause of action. all i have to say is lets follow the path of peace and let the sangat judge. i also appeal that no one take the law into their own hands.

tony litt lost, true. but this was a by election and the main parties always score less votes as compared to proper elections, on average half. the independents and smaller parties normally score much higher than they would at any other time. thats why 275 is an inflated number, after living in hounslow and working in ealing for years and with his clowns that are supposed to represent sikh youth in the area he scored 275. the only people represents are boss and sikh human rights group, which he runs. they spent thousands of pounds to get 275 votes, he could of sent the cash to shaheed parwars, he thought he was of to parliament to lead the sikhs. harjit and co were telling some youngsters that everyone would have to deal with them when rai won. hahahhahahahaha...............cloud cookoo!!!! the only youth that got respec in the area supported gurcharan and litt, these guys are not from round here and we dont need them disgracing our names and religion. in OUR area, why dont they go stand in watford or hounslow? i heard they didnt even get there deposit back!!!!!!!!!!! appeal to all 275 people who supported these people, get with it and get on track with the 100,000 or so that did not vote for the murakhs. please these lot just use the panths name when they need to, otherwise they are nobodys in society. no political party respects them, no jatha bandi, no gurudwara, no youth group, no one. so get a life and stop trying to represent us.. sarpanch i think we should start a petition to send to the government explaining how little support these guys have and how 99.9% of the Sikh community dont want these types of characters representing us in the future, i am sure all jatha bandia and most guru ghars will sign.

maybe the monster raving looney party and jasdev rai could merge to create LUNATIC UNITED FRONT or LUNATIC ASSYLUM SiKhERS. The major difference betwwen the two groups is that the monster raving party are opening claiming to be lunatics while rai and harjit singh are in denial. new song by harjit of boss eye spy with my little rai something beginning with b it is not the contraversial play but the name is the same........BEHZATHI :nihungsmile: :nihungsmile: :wub: :wub: @ :wub:

thank veer jis for your comments. What really did it for me and woke me up to the motives of these guys was way back in 2004, I think it was november time, or something. The turban had been banned in France. All the panthic jathe bandia went to protest in France The Sikh Federation, Babar khalsa, damdami taksal, all the major gurdwaras, nanaksarias, all sampardha's and jathe as well as individuals. Many groups lobbyed the sgpc and government of india to back the cause and learned sikhs managed to get public backing from all the groups back home and even the indians made press statements tin support which was surprising. Anyway on the day an agreement was almost made, Dr Rai arrived in France claiming to represent akal takhat. He told the french minister that the turban was not an ostensible part of the religion!!!!!!!!!!!!!! While all the sikhs acroos the world maintained the lin" the turban is part of our religion and we are ready to make every sacrifice for its honour," Rai told anyone that was listening that the turban was not a religious symbol, if we had agreed can you imagine what would of happened to sikhs in the future. quote from the tribune He alleged that divergent views of Sikh leadership, submitted to France especially from America and India, had complicated this issue. Dr Rai alleged that “continuing interventions from India, stating that ‘turban is an unremovable religious item and must be accommodated’ made the entire exercise difficult. The Sikhs in the USA and some of their representatives in France continued to deal with the press without any prior preparations or joint position. Their position was that the Sikhs would die for the turban and that it was holy.” Interestingly, Bibi Kiranjot Kaur, executive member of the SGPC and a delegation of Sikhs from France, had accused Dr Rai of complicating the issue. Dr Rai alleged that some Sikh groups, especially in the USA, imagined the worst and started a campaign prematurely. They threatened to take France to the European Court, he said. Dr Rai further claimed that he had immediately arranged a meeting with the Religious Affairs Head, Mr Roudaut, at the French Foreign Ministry through the Ambassador for Human Rights. Ambassador Keller was also present at the meeting. “I argued that when a member of the Christian, Islamic and Jewish faith adorn an obvious sign, they have taken a conscious decision to be religious, gone through some initiation ceremony and are announcing that fact to the world through their sign. In contrast, the vast majority of Sikhs who wear turbans have not taken ‘amrit’, the equivalent of Christian baptism. How can the turban be an ostensible sign then?”, he said. Dr Rai alleged that USA Sikh groups were politicising the issue. They were not willing to listen to anyone. On his criticism that he had not taken Sikhs from France into confidence and complicated the matter, Dr Rai claimed that he took Mr Iqbal Singh from France to the first three meetings. ??????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HONOUR THE TURBAN ARE YOU KIDDING ME RAI ALMOST TOOK THE TURBAN AWAY FROM THE SIKHS AS ITS RIGHTFULL PLACE AS OUR CROWN. THIS MAN HAS TO BE DOING STUFF WITH THE INDIAN INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES. NAME ME ONE PANTHIC GROUP THAT TRUSTS RAI APART FROM SIKH HUMAN RIGHTS, WHICH HE RUNS AND WHICH HAS NEVER ACHIEVED A SINGLE THING IN TWENTY YEARS APART FROM TAKING OUR FUNDS. WE NEED TO INVESTIGATE THIS GUY, SARPANCH WAS RIGHT ABOUT THIS GUY, FEDERATION KICKED HIM OUT OF THE JATHA WHEN THE FUNDS WENT MISSING FROM SOUTHALL, HE TOOK THE FUNDS TO INDIA TO SUPPORT THE MOVEMENT BUT NO ONE EVER SAW THE MONEY AGAIN, HE SAID HE WAS ROBBED BY AFGHAN PASHTUN ARMS DEALERS, ASK ANYONE IN SOUTHALL FROM AFTER 84 DAYS. HE WAS GOOD MATES WITH JAGJIT CHAUHAN AND VISITS INDIA EVERY MONTH, ALL THIS STUFF ABOUT HIM BEING ARRESTED IN INDIA AND HIS RELATIVES DOING SHAHEEDI FOR THE QUAM IS LIES, NO ONE IN HIS FAMILY HAS EVER BEEN ARRESTED FOR SIKHI, FORGET SHAHEEDI, IF HE SAYS HE DOESNT GO INDIA ASK TO SEE HIS PASSPORT AND HIS TRIPS TO INDIA PER YEAR WILL BE IN DOUBLE FIGURES, OR THERE ABOUTS. IF HE CAN PROVE OTHERWISE I WILL GIVE HIM£1000 TO ADD TO HIS STOLEN LOOT, THIS IS MY CHALLENGE TO HIM. STEP UP OR STOP MAKING US INTO A JOKE ACROSS THE WORLD. VEDANTI SAYS HE NEVER MADE YOU HIS REPRESENTATIVE, YOU MET HIM TWICE AND STARTED TELLING PEOPLE YOUR HIS ADVISER. YOU BEEN GETTING GRANTS WITH HARJIT SINGH AND LIVING IT UP, ALL WILL COME OUT SOON. YOUTH BE VIGILANT

dr rai has been telling people at government level, along with this dubious character Harjeet Singh, that they represent all U.K Sikhs. This is a joke!!! We need to get together and support groups such as sikh federation and Sikh Secretariat, who are active, honest and have the support of the mass's. These other smaller groups tend to side track us onto other things and make us miss our mark. I have been told that the Sikh federation has been busy trying to get us regognised as a seperate ethnic group, this is what i call true panthic work. If the federation had stood in southall or birmingham elections it would command many thousands of votes. Rai and harjeet need to stop playing divisive politics, everyone in Southall is laughing at them for making this a turban issue. if you want to see some really false promises go to . Also rai was on munda southall da, telling viewers that jack straw and david cameron were begging him to stand down because they realised how many votes he had and that they were offering him cabinet posts, is this guy for real? There are rumours that a girl lent £800 to their campaign and they are refusing to return it, i dont know how much truth there is in that but some people swear it to be true.rai and harjit managed 275 the only party still in the election that finished below them was the monster raving looney party!!!!!!!!!!!! That says it all

What new theory does Bibi Vision Kaur have Know. Get over it Rai is the biggest fraud. "I will fight to the end Khalistan or death" That was in 1984 when he was the leader of the ISYF. Once they emptyed the Gurdwara bank accounts. They were to busy spending the new found wealth, to go out and fight for some silly plot of land called Khalistan. Lett someone else die for that. Rai = fraud,coward,liar, ect,ect It was all talk justto get to the money all promises were wiped out, and so was the promise of giving his life for the cause. Give us a few days he is going to be out of a job at the sikh forum. Gurcharan singh In Rai Out

Its not the winning but the tacking part that counts we are all winners in our own little way. I'm surprised that Rai the stickey fingered blood thirsty IYSF leader got 275 votes, I admit I was wrong I thought he would get about 50 votes he got 5 1/2 times that. Maybe we can change the number on the 207 bus that goes up & down the uxbridge rd to the 275 bus as a mark of rai's achivement and overwellming surprise result of 275 votes. Looks like the vote 4 Rai vote 4 Turban campaing has been Turbanned out of parliment. Next mission no 10 downing street, "vote 4 Rai 4 priminister vote 4 Turban"

what happened to rais masterplan, I'm surprissed he got 275, well done champion one day he will be priminister.

If you guys go back to topics on this forum I was along with my fellows was threatened on THIS FORUM by Sohis boy called 'Jatinder',he challenged me to come to this tournament and I have prsnl msgs to prove this,proves my point all along that these guys are thugs,who are linked to the RSS Anyone gett any pics at the tornament today. It all kicked off one of our security guys had to pull out a sword to protect himself. Sohis boys were out in force there must of been about 200 of them all the glassy drug dealers ect we got caught out but it wont happen again the police didnt do anythin to stop them. these guys were mostly clean shaved singhs you know eat meat drink, and take drugs. A couple of keshatari singhs were with them they shoul be ashamed of them selves. They bowled in like they owned the place & the police and did some serious damage, some of our boys have been hurt so if anyones got footage we can get these animals arrested. The security covered our main guys and the police made a line between them and us if they hadent used dogs we would have been done for. We need to stop these guys its getting out of control pass on any video footage we will pay for it if need be.

So what if gurcharan is paying Rai £15,000.00 to stand down This is standard politics is a dirrty game, Rai will take the money and sit down. Gurcharan is to clever for the new school of politicians. If rai has a brain he will forget the big drama and take the money and do something good with it. He cant win, if £15,000.00 isnt enough he should ask for more Gurcharan has a £100,000.00 of litts to blow any way litt is going to win and no one backs the horse that comes second we all like to be winners!!. Vote 4 toni litt vote 4 gurcharan get the out!!!

Excellent Video

All you fellow brothers have seriously lost the plot. What is up with you lot, this forum should be used for constructive discusions. If you spend your efforts and energy on doing sometthing constructive, maybe our Gurudwaras will be more peaceful. Where does it say in sikhi that we should just argue and curse each other on forums. Maybe you lot just all need to grow up a bit.