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hajara, u rn't the only one who wants to leave this forum. i think i know exactly how u feel, and if it wasn't for someone very considerate, i would've probably done what you're about to do. i don't think a lot of ppl realize that u don't have to be hindu or have hindu family to think all the hatred on this forum is insulting, degrading and shocking. i've never been so disgusted with fellow Sikhs before in my life as i was when i saw some of the comments posted on this site and now i'm shocked to see that hajara is leaving because of it, although it was an option i was considering not too long ago. what made me change my mind is the fact that ppl who rn't enclosed in their own ideal worlds need to provide some sort of reality in this forum. but if hajara leaves, i'm probably gonna follow suit. hajara, wherever u go, may you be happy. please don't separate yourself from Sikhi on the basis of the narrow-minded opinions of a few who aren't willing to look further than their own limitations.

just a suggestion... please don't take offence to this... if we can all agree that in Sikhi, idol worship isn't allowed, can we drop this topic already? please? because i really don't see any of this stopping since everyone has strong opinions and no one is convincing anyone else that what they think is right. i think enough has been said on the topic of hinduism vs. Sikhism. bhul chuk maaf...

aaahahaha! bump! tha's so great! i've never seen that before! hehehe! that was great. it just made my day. well... sorta... :umm: and on the topic of gettin rid of the vikaars... i think u should just leave it up to the Guru to help u out on that. just do ur best to avoid situations that'll bring this stuff out in u... or if u can't do that, then do ur best to deal with it and do Ardaas... hope that helped. bhul chuk maaf...

nice job, GurSa Singh! :umm:

tha's what u call politics... :umm:

Singhnee bhain ji, i understand where u're coming from. but a lot of comments in this thread were pretty anti-hindu. but mebbe it's just me. forgive me if i misread some of the stuff. i think i might not have been clear on what i was tryin to say about Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib's martyrdom. it's the fact that he gave up his life for injustices done to hindu brahmins that humbles me. although there is so much said against their practices, he still found it in his heart to give up his own life for these ppl because he couldn't stand the injustices being done to them. i'm not perfect in any sense, but i think that Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib was tryin to tell us that we don't really have the right to judge other religions. but tha's just my opinion. as for the question of idol worship bein foolish... well... tha's not for me to say. i'm not gonna go against Gurbani. but i sure as hell am not gonna think of myself as bein smart enough or high enough spiritually to be able to condemn someone else's way of worshipping. all i know is that the Guru told me not to do it, and tha's what i'm gonna concentrate on. i'm not the person to go out and correct what i have no business correcting. if these ppl feel a pull towards Sikhi, of course i'll help them in understanding what Sikhi's about, but i will never raise myself to the level of authority of SGGS ji and condemn another religion. but once again, tha's just my opinion and i'm probably wrong. bhul chuk maaf, once again.

i'd rather just be who i am... as for this thing between who's closer and blah blah blah... does it matter when we're not the same? i respect both. can understand both. but i like bein a Sikh... so i'd rather just be lil ole me... bhul chuk maaf

oh woops. my bad. i'm sorry. i thought she was doin simran on Waheguru. i wouldn't know much about what is sinful or not... since all i know is that according to Sikhi, the best way is to do simran on the Gurmantr. but i know nothin of what she was told to do or why or even who it was who told her to do whatever it was. but i still think it's wrong for ur relative to be emotionally attached... i'd like to maintain that... bhul chuk maaf

Naam always helps. someone once said to me that if you even say Waheguru once in ur life, God is gonna keep knockin on ur door to let him into ur life forever. so if ur relative was doin Simran as crazily as u're sayin she did, i'm pretty sure it'll help. there's no way it won't. but what definitely won't help is bein attached. attachment is a bad bad thing. berry bad. but it's all good. we're all here to learn something or other.

at the risk of soundin jealous of my cute lil bro, i think it's a really stupid cultural tradition to "revere" boys more than girls. my mom's side of the family was sooo excited when he was born. my dad's side couldn't care less, cuz they've got too many guys there neways. he got everything for his first year. they gave out laddoos, they did the entire shabang for vaisakhi and a whole bunch of other things. but... the worst part is they expected me to tie a rakhri on him. i did it the first couple of years cuz i didn't know any better and partly cuz the dough was flowin, if u know what i mean. but then i realized that i dun rely on my bro for support since i'm a Singhnee, so i didn't do it this year. my mom was so mad! :umm: it was pure jokes. but the best part is that since i didn't do it, and i'm his "real" sister (as in immediate family as opposed to just bein a cousin sister), my younger and older cousins didn't do it either. hahaha! as for this foeticide crap... :D tha's just wrong. ppl need to use their brains. this stuff isn't ne better'n sati, and the Guru's din exactly approve of that. so why should we treat this thing as any different? it's wrong. wrong wrong wrong. but the real question is: how do we spread the word and get them to stop? us sittin here talkin bout how wrong it is isn't gonna ge t nething done. neone know if there's nething that can be done? apart from dealin with it properly in ur own life?

hi. sorry, i dun mean to interfere but i have a couple of things to say about the stuff in this thread. firstly, the story on Dhanna Bhagat is a really good example of true love for God. if it wasn't true love for God, then i'm pretty sure Dhanna Bhagat wouldn't have gotten a darshan and probably would have died of starvation, bein the simple man he was. secondly, a whole lot of ppl in here are insulting other faiths (hinduism in particular). yes, SGGS ji does say a lot of what you guys are saying. but are you at the level of SGGS ji? do you have the authority to malign another religion, especially one which has produced so many bhagats and sants who were revered by our own Gurus as true? who in this world can say that they have as much authority as SGGS ji and that they can appropriately malign a religion? on this same topic, everything that was said should be looked at in context. what is said in SGGS ji is supposed to help us become better, not to give us validation for puttin down religions and the way others worship. here's something else. Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib gave up his life for hindus and it doesn't mean that he prefers them over Muslims. BUT he did this REGARDLESS of the bad stuff written about their practices. if Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib can give up his life for these ppl, who the hell thinks they are allowed to look down upon them?! one more thing. none of us are hindu. so why are we concerned about their practices? if they believe that their mukti is gonna come from idol worship, let them do it. who knows? what if one of them ends up bein the next Dhanna Bhagat? don't interfere in their path to the Almighty, cu z that'd be downright sinful. and tha's all i can think of for now... i'll probably have something to add later on. i'm sorry if nething i said offended u (or didn't make sense). but this is retarded. it's almost shameful to see the amount of intolerance someone who is Sikh can display for another religion. shameful...

it's awesome that she held onto naam for so long. but... if she forgot it, it means that she hasn't totally understood the importance of it. so i dun think neone can go to SachKhand unless u're totally immersed in it. and if she really had Naam and everything, she wouldn't get emotionally attached. she would understand that she needed to let go. but tha's besides the point.