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I want to share a incident and also need help on this. Just two days back my friend was stopped by Delhi Police officer near Moti Bagh Gurdwara Delhi and when my friend asked him the reason the officer started using abusive language against Sikh community. He said u Sikhs are headache for Indian society and i am fed up of u people . U do all types of nonsense things like driving fast and with loud music. And its not ended here he said even we have two police officers and they are too are headache .

I want to know to whom should i complaint ? Or accept this as thats how refugees are treated in other country.

I hope sons of Bharat Mata in this forum will reply.

You know Inqlabi, there are certain bad apples that appear to be Sikhs, or classify themselves as ones, and do all sorts of nonsense things. It is these people that ruin the image of Sikhs as a whole. Do you really think the Indian police officer knows anything about Sikhi, or who really are the Sikhs? He might just assume anyone with a Sikh name is a "Sikh". The blame is on the Punjabis for being stupid.

Bhai Jaita was the Sikh who took Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib jee's Sees after 8th Patshahi was beheaded. He then put the Sees inside his house, lit the house on fire, and ran outside. This way, did Sanskaar.

He was renamed as "Bhai Jeevan Singh jee" during the 1699 Vaisakhi Amrit Sanchaar.

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haha this is quite funny in a way

but singha!

do paatth!

once u get the RUS

man u dont wanna stop!

keep reading Baani as much as possible!

but ur question is hilarious

"i get bored" lol

ur hilarious

WaheGuruJiKaKhalsa WaheGuruJiKiFateh

wow first of all

this is how far we Sikhs have gone now

we have forgotten the teachings of our SatGuru.

whenever an issue is raised, the opposing sides always takes over and tries to defend anti panthic activities in the name of Sikhi.

As for meat, MAAS IS MAAS.

ultimately, ur gonna eat it. it dont matter whether u chop off its neck or u kill it slowly and read sum next gospels alongside.

Maas is forbidden in Sikhi. The End. It is forbidden. If u are addicted. Thats ur issue. Then u cant be a Sikh. Simple. Crystal clear. get that?

when we make subzi, do we ever argue oh we cant eat it because when it was plucked from the ground, it was done in a certain way, therefore we cant it. or when we're cutting it, do we ever argue over how it was cut , or how it was washed? ot how was it was made. if u have health issues or if ur a bibeki, then yea u have a reason to not eat certain foods. but why is there so much arguemtn over MAAS? doesnt that prove automatically that its not right? why does something has to be such a issue. why cant meat eaters just simply accept the fact that its wrong and forbidden in Sikhi?

if u guys dont agree with points ive made. then i suggest u read the articles on tapoban.org, under the articles section, there are 2 articles regarding this issue.

bhul chuk maaf

WaheGuruJiKaKhalsa WaheGuruJiKiFateh !!

You even be wanting praises in the first place.

IN GurBaani it says:

Mere Laaln Ki Shobaa ll (Bavan Akhri)

Praise is and should only be for Guru Sahib. You wanting wordly praise is going to increase ego. There is no way out there ego wont hit.

(Below is taken from Gurmatbibek's forum. http://gurmatbibek.c...orum/read.php?3,3147,3180#msg-3180)

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When Bhai Sahib refused to attend Akhand Kirtan Samagam

Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee was an embodiment of humility and Sikhi. Even after reaching such high state as Brahmgyaan, he did not let anyone give him status higher than a humble Sikh. Bhai Sahib always stayed "Bhai" and did not even let anyone call him a Sant or matha-tek to him. If someone did call Bhai Sahib with names like Brahmgyani or Sant, he used to get very upset.

Once Bhai Sahib went for Darshan of Siri Harmandir Sahib. He was walking in the Prakarma when a Bibi sensing Bhai Sahib's high avastha, tried to matha-tek (prostrate) to him. Bhai Sahib called out to his companion and said, "Hand me my cane. This old Bibi (maayee) cannot see the Charan Kamal of Siri Guru Raamdaas jee and is coming towards my feet." The Bibi got scared and ran away saying, "This Sant beats too." (Ih Sant taa maarda vee hai).

There is another incident that has come to mind. This Saakhi is not very common and was narrated by Gurmukh of Bhai Sahib's times. Once the Sangat of Jaipur invited the whole Jatha to do a Samagam at their city Jaipur. Bhai Sahib too was invited and Bhai Sahib agreed to go as well. All Gursikhs like Bhai Sahib, Bau Mal Singh and many others got ready and arrived at Jaipur.

The Sangat of Jaipur in the meantime had published and distributed posters of Bhai Sahib in which they praised Bhai Sahib with adjectives like "Sant", "Brahmgyani". When Bhai Sahib arrived at Jaipur, he found out about these posters and such praising of his personality. Bhai Sahib wanted to set the record straight and stop such practice in the future. Furthermore, Bhai Sahib did not believe that he was worthy of praise when only Guru Sahib should be accorded praise of this level. Bhai Sahib decided to not attend the Samagam. Bhai Sahib decided to stay at the place of a Gurmukh in Jaipur and not attend the Samagam.

Many Gursikhs requested Bhai Sahib to come and Bhai Sahib with tears in his eyes said that with what face will he face the Sangat and Guru Sahib. He said that he had been unduly praised when he did not deserve any praise at all. In the end, Bau Mal Singh jee, whom Bhai Sahib never used to refuse came but Bhai Sahib still did not agree to come.

Now Bau jee said, "Bhai Sahib jee, if you don't accept our request, then we will have to order you to come, in form of Punj Pyare. How will you say no to them?"

Bhai Sahib humbly replied, "Bau jee, you are correct in saying that I can't refuse the order of Punj Pyare but this Daas can leave the body through the Dasam Duaar and go to Sachkhand before the Punj Pyare arrive."

Bhai Sahib could at will leave for Sachkhand through Dasam Duaar. In jail, when he was to be force-fed, he had told the doctor that if his Dharma is broken by force, it is possible that he leave his body for Sachkhand, through Dasam Duaar.

In the end Bhai Sahib did not go to the Samagam and stayed merged in Naam at the house he was staying. It was because of such strict stands that Sangat did not accord Bhai Sahib with adjectives like "Sant", "Shiromini Sant" etc.

The lesson to be learned from this Saakhi is that we should forever stay humble Gursikhs and never try to get a higher status. It is detrimental to our spiritual health, if we don't heed to this advice of Mahapurakhs like Bhai Sahib jee.

Daas,

Kulbir Singh

go to this website and also tell to go on to it as well:

http://www.islam-watch.org

it tells the truth about Islam and how it's EVIL

:sunsingh:

will there be a Larivaar Saroop?

keep bibek as much as possicle then we wont have to deal with this issue. Some say Bibek is not a necessity, but when you look at it, you will see how important it really is and how clean ur body is by keeping7 Bibek.

ਸੰਗੀਤ ਭੁਜੰਗ ਪ੍ਰਯਾਤ ਛੰਦ ॥

SANGEET BHUJANG PRAYAAT STANZA

ਕਾਗੜਦੰ ਕਾਤੀ ਕਟਾਰੀ ਕੜਾਕੰ ॥

The sounds of the blows of the daggers and swords are being heard.

ਤਾਗੜਦੰ ਤੀਰੰ ਤੁਪਕੰ ਤੜਾਕੰ ॥

The sounds of the shafts and gunshots are being heard.

ਝਾਗੜਦੰ ਨਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਜੇ ॥

Various sounds of musical instruments are resounding.

ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗਾਜੀ ਮਹਾ ਗਜ ਗਾਜੇ ॥੩੫॥੧੧੨॥

The warriors are roaring and shouting loudly.35.112.

ਸਾਗੜਦੰ ਸੂਰੰ ਕਾਗੜਦੰ ਕੋਪੰ ॥

The great heroes have been struck.

ਪਾਗੜਦੰ ਪਰਮੰ ਰਣੰ ਪਾਵ ਰੋਪੰ ॥

And the brave fighters are belching.36.113.

ਸਾਗੜਦੰ ਸਸਤ੍ਰੰ ਝਾਗੜਦੰਗ ਝਾਰੈ॥

The warriors seem pleased on shooting sharp arrows on the bodies.

ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬੀਰੰ ਡਾਗੜਦੰ ਡਕਾਰੈਂ ॥੩੬॥੧੧੩॥

There are loud shouts with profound resounding, and the poets describe them in their verses.37.114.

ਚਾਗੜਦੰ ਚਉਪੇ ਬਾਗੜਦੰਗ ਬੀਰੰ ॥ ਮਾਗੜਦੰਗ ਮਾਰੇ ਤਨੰ ਤਿਛ ਤੀਰੰ ॥

The demons are running away and the heroes are shouting loudly.

ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗਜੇ ਸੁ ਬਜੇ ਗਹੀਰੈ॥ ਕਾਗੜਦੰ ਕਵੀਯਾਨ ਕਥੇ ਕਥੀਰੈ॥੩੭॥੧੧੪॥

The demons are running away and the heroes are shouting loudly.

ਦਾਗੜਦੰ ਦਾਨੋ ਭਾਗੜਦੰ ਭਾਜੇ ॥ ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗਾਜੀ ਜਾਗੜਦੰ ਗਾਜੇ ॥

The sounds are produced by the striking axes and daggers.

ਛਾਗੜਦੰ ਛਉਹੀ ਛੁਰੇ ਪ੍ਰੇ ਛੜਾਕੇ ॥ ਤਾਗੜਦੰ ਤੀਰੰ ਤੁਪਕੰ ਤੜਾਕੇ ॥੩੮॥੧੧੫॥

The arrows and the guns are creating their own noses.38.115.

ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗੋਮਾਯ ਗਜੇ ਗਹੀਰੰ ॥ ਸਾਗੜਦੰ ਸੰਖੰ ਨਾਗੜਦੰਗ ਨਫੀਰੰ ॥

The loud noise of drums and the resounding of conches and trumpets is being heard in the battlefield.

ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਜੇ ਬਜੇ ਬੀਰ ਖੇਤੰ ॥ ਨਾਗੜਦੰ ਨਾਚੇ ਸੁ ਭੂਤੰ ਪਰੇਤੰ ॥੩੯॥੧੧੬॥

The musical instruments of the warriors are being played and the ghosts and goblins are dancing.39.116.

ਤਾਗੜਦੰ ਤੀਰੰ ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਣੰ ॥ ਕਾਗੜਦੰ ਕਾਤੀ ਕਟਾਰੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾਣੰ ॥

The noises of the arrows and shafts, daggers and swords are being heard.

ਨਾਗੜਦੰ ਨਾਦੰ ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਜੇ ॥ ਸਾਗੜਦੰ ਸੂਰੰ ਰਾਗੜਦੰ ਰਾਜੇ ॥੪੦॥੧੧੭॥

The music of the musical instruments and the drumming of the trumpets resounds and the warriors and chieftains are doing their job amidst such resonance.40.117.

ਸਾਗੜਦੰ ਸੰਖੰ ਨਾਗੜਦੰ ਨਫੀਰੰ ॥ ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗੋਮਾਯ ਗਜੇ ਗਹੀਰੰ ॥

The conches, clarionets and the drums resounded.

ਨਾਗੜਦੰ ਨਗਾਰੇ ਬਾਗੜਦੰ ਬਾਜੇ ॥ ਜਾਗੜਦੰ ਜੋਧਾ ਗਾਗੜਦੰ ਗਾਜੇ ॥੪੧॥੧੧੮॥

The trumpets and musical instruments produced their sounds and alongwith their resonance, the warriors thundered.41.118.

waheguru amazing

wjkk wjkf

there was akaal purak before shri guru nanak dev ji.... people still had those special eyes to see the akaal purak. you can give him examples from muslim bhagats like bhagat kabir ji, bhagat freed ji.... those bhagats never forced any one to become muslim, all they asked prople to become a good human being by following the hukam of shri akaal purak (the one who created everything and every one).

wjkk wjkf

Guru Nanak Dev Ji was always there before he took human form. The Jot was always there and now that Jot is in Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. This is very common question to be asked and very controverdial and i know people will start argueing now that no Guru Nanak Dev JI was not always there. The answer is taht without the True Guru, there is no way to be liberated or attain salvation. We all know that Sakhi of Shiri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji Maharaj Ji where the Sikh did Ardas and he was saved and later he promised he would give Guru Ji money but there were so many sodhis pretending to be the guru you know the Sakhi im talking about i dont want to go in detail. The thing is when Shiri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj Ji came into human form, He gave darshan to the whole world, but before He would only give Darshan to selected souls who were his Sikhs and give Them Naam Di Daat. How can one attain salvation and have Darshan of WaheGuru without the True Guru and Sikhi? Then what was the point of our Gurus to plant the seed of Sikhi if other religions can help you meet God? All the Bhagats were Sikhs, not Hindus and Muslims.

The Evil Islamic Fanatic(s) like Bin Laden gloat at these occasions and celebrate,but for people with a heart,and an ideology of 'Sarbat Dha Bhalla',like us Sikhs its a time for reflection and prayer that the Islamic Fanatics who carried this sickening terror attack,be bought to justice in whatever way,- shot to death,hanged, what ever, they need to be bought to justice for what they did on that day and what they continue to do.9/11.7/7 are all signs of the changing times we live in,lets hope our Sikh nation grows stronger and stays in Chardhi Kalla during these times.Even in times when innocent Sikhs are attacked or even killed by being mistaken for arabs,lets keep our heads high and remain in Chardhi Kalla and lets show the World what Sikhs are

huh so thats ur policy, oh no we're fun loving sikhs who don't hate anybody other than the mulims and we call them "islamic fanatics" because we are the khalsa and we're proud to be the khalsa but when sumone calls us muslims and terrorists and osama bin laden and tells us to go back afganistan, we start posting it no sikh forums on the internet because we're scared to do anything so we can say anything we want on the internet and insult different people because they're simply not sikh... why because we are the khalsa... i hate this faith so much!

The Evil Islamic Fanatic(s) like Bin Laden gloat at these occasions and celebrate,but for people with a heart,and an ideology of 'Sarbat Dha Bhalla',like us Sikhs its a time for reflection and prayer that the Islamic Fanatics who carried this sickening terror attack,be bought to justice in whatever way,- shot to death,hanged, what ever, they need to be bought to justice for what they did on that day and what they continue to do.9/11.7/7 are all signs of the changing times we live in,lets hope our Sikh nation grows stronger and stays in Chardhi Kalla during these times.Even in times when innocent Sikhs are attacked or even killed by being mistaken for arabs,lets keep our heads high and remain in Chardhi Kalla and lets show the World what Sikhs are

huh so thats ur policy, oh no we're fun loving sikhs who don't hate anybody other than the mulims and we call them "islamic fanatics" because we are the khalsa and we're proud to be the khalsa but when sumone calls us muslims and terrorists and osama bin laden and tells us to go back afganistan, we start posting it no sikh forums on the internet because we're scared to do anything so we can say anything we want on the internet and insult different people because they're simply not sikh... why because we are the khalsa... i hate this faith so much!

hmmm who knows?