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  1. Waheguru... Sangat Ji... I would like to clear up a few things on behalf of the Organisers... It seems people with not so hidden "agendas" would like to cause disruption around the durbar and other programs which they must see as a threat to their own sense of self or identity... But truth and prem often cause people to become unbalanced and anxious as they are threatened by things that are diverse or different to their own central dogma of worship... We, as the organisers, have no “hidden agendas” … Our aims and objectives are transparent enough for anybody able to read between the lines… We are taking a proactive approach to trying to instil and encourage the prem for Gurbani that adds meaning and depth to our spiritual practice and lives (jeevan)… We do this by promoting Sikhi and Guru Jis Bani and Bana… We promote reading of Gurbani, Santheya, Kirtan to join us and connect us to our Guru Ji , Gatka, shaster and Bir Ras Bani to keep the warrior attributes alive, Katha to help us understand and appreciate, Gurbani Khoj to help us realise… But for those who fail to realise that these people tell “real lies” which may seem to be the truth for themselves… For example this amazing invisible red cloth that nobody else saw… please wake up… the Panth has enough problems without these imaginary things… Wonder if you spotted the 8 singhs or so who read the Naumai Patshahs’ slok together, or the 13 year old Singh who read the Raag Mala, or even the 14 year old Singh who read JapJi Sahib… Or maybe even the 24 year old Singh who did the mahaan seva of reading the Bania for the Bhog of Sri Dasam Granth… and has now carried out two sehej paath of Sri Dasam Granth in the last 4 months… see g5sikhmedia website for pictures/photos of event Most of us could only hope to do a Sehaj Paath of Sri Dasam Granth – let alone take Santheya of Dasam Bani twice… The aims of the organisers were to promote the reading with prem and loving devotion for maharaja and for Gurbani… To encourage and promote these young singhs, to create awareness and celebrate their achievement. Thereby providing them with positive reinforcement and praise… Hence, also providing positive role models in our youth, for our youth… But ask yourselves… How will the Panth move forwards when so many people still adopt a backwards mind frame… WE ARE NOT HINDUS… AND WE HAVE OPENLY STOOD AGAINST THOSE WHO THINK THAT WE ARE… BUT NO DOUBT PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO SEEK WAYS TO DISHEARTEN OUR SINGHS… However, the hatred for all things from the Indian subcontinent is also disturbing… for example, we tie dastaar (turbans)… and others used to before us… does that mean we should stop… this kind of “logic” is quite simply disturbing… The whole Indian Subcontinent believes in “Karma”, so does that mean we should stop??? We have such Chardi Kalah individuals who are scared of coconuts (narial)… We are a Sant Sipahi Kaum… and as I have stated before, the Warrior Saint spirit resides in the Khalsa as it is interwoven into the very fabric and essence of the Khalsa… As is Gurbani from Guru Ji and Sri Dasam Granth… No matter how much this eats away at people, it’s true… The autonomous nature of the Khalsa means that nobody can control or assimilate them… The Khalsa is forever free… Also as per the earlier reply… Why did guru ji use a Narial in the Gur-gaddi ceremony? Ask yourselves why you are threatened by the coconut? Eerkha (jealousy/envy) and Hate (nafrat) are dangerous things that can control people and cause them to lose sight of the truth or prem and the true messages Guru Ji gives us… They cause people to seek to attack and cause hatred against those things, individuals, beliefs and even singhs they perceive as hostile or as a threat… It is rather sad but inevitable that these “Mischievous characters” will seek to raise doubts in the minds of believers and premi of maharaja… Their motives forever remain questionable as if their concerns and questions were not to cause a stir or create controversy, then they would have attended the program and sought to speak to us directly… The singhs who were in Bana were hardly easy to miss now were they… But it’s inevitable… PEOPLE FEAR WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.... THEY HATE WHAT THEY CAN'T ASSIMILATE, DIVIDE OR CONQUER... These are the origins of Racism and caste-ism alongside this sad new trend of Jatha-ism… whereby everything is about arguing and proving people wrong… We prey for “Sarbat Ka Bhala” ostentatiously if we are unable to comprehend and accept traditions and spiritual practice/belief that is slightly different to our own when we have the same “Shabad Guru”… We do not wish to involve ourselves with “cyber-beef” or “keyboard wars” but would wish to follow Guru Jis wishes of avoiding arguments designed to pull people off task or distract their focus… Hence, this will be the only posting in this thread as those who wish to discuss anything with us… will find us around at all Panthic Program we are free to go to… All genuine or respectful queries will be answered to by the best of our limited understanding… There are weekly Akaal Ustat Programs every Sunday Evening at Baba Sang Gurdwara and Gatka classes every Saturday evening... both from 6-8pm... Please could young Singhs try to get involved at a grass roots level and run programs like these at their local gurdwarey to build the interests of the youth towards Sikhi... Bhul Chuf Marf Karni…
  2. Sangat jee the special invited guest speaker was Bhai Mohan Singh of the "Sikh Awareness Society" who we are grateful to for his support. He wasn't advertised due to his very busy and hectic schedule and seva which takes him across the length and breadth of the UK (and Panjab for two months every year). We have at present not planned any more programs or darbars as we will be encouraging people to focus our attention towards projects that the panth is currently already involved in such as the increasing focus and attention towards 25 years since June 1984 and the Panths' Chaupai Sahib Jaap for Chardi Kalah. please see and support www.chaupaisahib.org Programmes and initiatives should be launched at all local gurdwarey who want to see the panth work together to fullfill the aim of 1 000 000 Chaupai Sahibs by June 2009...
  3. S.I.K.H. present *** BIR RAS DARBAR & REHANSBHAI KIRTAN *** Rehansbhai Kirtan celebrating the Khalsa War Festival "HOLA MAHALLA" Also celebrating the Barsi of Sant Baba Harbans Singh Ji Dameliwale Saturday 7th March 2009 @ Baba Sang Gurdwara, Smethwick updated posters have been attached... Representatives from Naujawani radio will be broadcasting the darbar from 6pm - midnight/1am live on Naujawani:Radio, www.Naujawani.com Also G5sikhmedia & Akaalmedia will be present to support the audio/visual of the darbar... there will be 2 stalls selling sikhi related cds/t shirts and posters... The whole darbar will be recorded by an independent dvd production company as was done at the last darbar... Open invitations are given to all panthic jathebandia and individuals to come and support the celebrations of the Khalsa War Festival of HOLA MOHALLA with the focus being on both BIR RAS (Sri Dasam Granth) and also jointly celebrating the Barsi of the Damellivalle Sant (showing our allegiance for our SPIRITUAL ELDERS who devote their lives to join us with gurbani and rehat) Hence, all in support of these Sant-Sipahi / Warrior Saint concepts that are integrally interwoven into the fabric of Sikhi are invited to attend... All of the world class kirtani and the Internationally reknown guest speaker have been confirmed... Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
  4. S.I.K.H. present *** BIR RAS DARBAR & REHANSBHAI KIRTAN *** Rehansbhai Kirtan celebrating the Khalsa War Festival "HOLA MAHALLA" Also celebrating the Barsi of Sant Baba Harbans Singh Ji Dameliwale Saturday 7th March 2009 @ Baba Sang Gurdwara, Smethwick updated posters have been attached... Representatives from Naujawani radio will be broadcasting the darbar from 6pm - midnight/1am live on Naujawani:Radio, www.Naujawani.com Also G5sikhmedia & Akaalmedia will be present to support the audio/visual of the darbar... there will be 2 stalls selling sikhi related cds/t shirts and posters... The whole darbar will be recorded by an independent dvd production company as was done at the last darbar... Open invitations are given to all panthic jathebandia and individuals to come and support the celebrations of the Khalsa War Festival of HOLA MOHALLA with the focus being on both BIR RAS (Sri Dasam Granth) and also jointly celebrating the Barsi of the Damellivalle Sant (showing our allegiance for our SPIRITUAL ELDERS who devote their lives to join us with gurbani and rehat) Hence, all in support of these Sant-Sipahi / Warrior Saint concepts that are integrally interwoven into the fabric of Sikhi are invited to attend... All of the world class kirtani and the Internationally reknown guest speaker have been confirmed... Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh
  5. With great blessing from waheguru there will be a release of an exclusive recording (in raag) of "Chandi Di //" performed by the world reknown Raagi Bhai Balbir Singh Ji (of 31 raag releases and the world reknown Bir Ras Dasam Bani) The following track is particularly reccommended to all please listen... http://www.keertan.org/keertan/Raagi%20Kee...Ar.Sogan.Te.mp3 "Sri Dasmesh Darbar" for Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Gurpurb Saturday 3rd Jan 09 Youth Kirtan/Katha Darbar @Gurdwara Baba Sang, Smethwick Bhog of Sri Dasam Granth sahib ji sehej paat will be at 6p.m Katha in english and punjabi Special invited raagis Purataan shaster display Many thanks to the Gursikhs involved and to T Series for their support in promoting Dasam Pathshahis Bani and Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Gurpurb. CD's have been professionally produced by T Series and there will be exclusive free copies distributed to sangat on Guru Gobind Singh Ji's Gurpurb. ਸ੍ਰੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਦਾ ਪਾਠ ਤੇ ਅਰਥ ਸਮਝਣੇ ਤਾਂ ਦਰਕਿਨਾਰ, ਬੁਜ਼ਦਿਲ ਆਦਮੀ ਇਸ ਦੀ ਬਾਣੀ ਸੁਣ ਨਹੀਂ ਸਕਦਾ. ਇਹ ਕਾਇਰਾਂ ਦਾ' ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੈ. ਇਸ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਇਕ ਇਕ ਅੰਗ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਹਾਥੀਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਚਿੰਗਾਰਾਂ, ਕਿਰਪਾਨਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਟੁਣਕਾਰਾਂ, ਤੇ ਘੋੜਿਆਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਰਕਾਬਾਂ ਦੀਆਂ ਅਵਾਜ਼ਾਂ ਸੁਣਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ। ਸੰਤ ਜਰਨੈਲ ਸਿੰਘ ਭਿੰਡਰਾਂਵਾਲੇ
  6. The Dasam Granth Bir Ras Kirtan Darbar was one of a kind, Organised by the youth for the general sangat... it was informative, enlightening, educational, and overall a very spiritual evening. I think that everybody who heard the two singhs read Dasam Bani together were amazed. The Hukam Namey taken from both Guru Granth Sahib Jee and Sri Dasam Granth were beautifully enlightening and spiritual. Hukamnama was taken first from Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji (Dhanasari Mahalla 5: Ja Ko Har Rang Lago Is Jug Mein) and then Sri Dasam Granth Ji (Shastar Naam Malaa). The sangat present for the start and main part of the program were amazed and blessed. The aims of the darbar were fully met and the demand and love shown by sangat present was amazing. The Aartee Kirtan was amazing, as was the informative lecture by Nihang Bhai Sukha Singh Ji Akali. The Dasam Kirtan in raag was also mind blowing. Thank you for all those who supported the program and made it a succcess with their presence... As a few gursikhs were leaving they were continually stopped by people who had travelled from London, Southall, Gravesend, East London, Coventry and even Glasgow. The love shown by all who attended the main program was amazing as the event was very different and unique. The demand for similar events in the future from people in varying areas was amazing. The evening was pure positive sikhi in action, obviously there will always be people who like to pull others down or try to discredit them but thats the way of the world sadly. When an event is as successful as this its bound to upset people who were either against it or didnt want it to be successful. We need to encourage ekta and help promote sikhi not argue between ourselves... Lets Keep Moving Forwards... Live the Truth Speak the Truth Sikh the Truth S.I.K.H.
  7. Wednesday 16th January 2008 We thank everyone who signed and supported the petition because it allowed us to prepare a proposal of sangat views and present all the views and concerns peacefully to Organisers. The concerns and views which the petition helped us to compile was handed over in the meeting. Your help and support allowed us to meet with the 20 or so representatives of the "Birmingham Council of Sikh Gurdwaras" alongside community leaders from other areas (Wolverhampton) and some youth representatives/sevadaars. We feel the petition created an impact with organisers. Hopefully some positive action will come from this awareness. We thank everyone concerned including the organisers but especially the sangat. Hence, petition is now over since it has served its initial purpose of gathering thoughts of sangat to present to organisers. WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
  8. Now over 600 signatures... shows there is a concensus of concerned sangat
  9. If we stand for this, we will fall for anything...
  10. an excellent camp and event... very different approach and inspirational stuff... well done to all who attended and took steps towards maharaaj...
  11. im with ya... agree 100%... I have spoken to kaurageous a number of times and am 100% behind them but do express my views with them on a personal basis. I apologise for "hiding behind a poxy pc screen mucnching laddoos" but if u check i've posted like 5 times on this forum so am a little behind all the real cyber warriors. Thanks for the positive attitude and friendly welcome to the forum may i be blessed to become a real cyber warrior 1 day and make 100s of posts... neways i haven't signed up for this i jus thought id express my thoughts every now and agen... "just my thoughts" ps lets keep it positive... (end of) one
  12. Sikhs lack unity. Well done to kaurageous and their sevadaar. but instead of people getting stuck into bigging up their own groups or pointing out things to each other such as "nimrata" or lack of it... we need to remember we are all sikhs and need to unite and support each other in all that we do since we are all part of the same panth... just my thoughts... one...
  13. This is about the sangat expressing their views... People complain day in and day out about things but as sikhs shouldn't we express our concerns in a peaceful way so that our understanding and compassionate committee members and politicians know about our concerns... and are able to truly represent them and take them into consideration when planning such events... These people would surely accept the views of the sangat in wanting to see the mela move forwards instead of jus continuing to plod along... 1ST STEP - RESPECT FOR MAHARAAJ
  14. interesting... I would like to know more... wonder if the panj pyarey interviewed people before giving amrit back in the day... Guru ji asked for a head, if you take amrit and give your head to maharaaj then why does ne1 else have to interview you... Just my thought... one
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