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  1. These kirtanis live the high life

    Cost? There is no cost

    I have seen first hand they live in beautiful big houses when they come and taken around in big cars

    Parivaars think they guroo keh kirtani so have sharda to do seva...

    Most of these kirtani organisations charge big money for kirtanis, and they book like 4 diwaans a day.

    Let's work this out

    Sunday diwaan, 4 locations

    Bheta 250 per diwaan then stage money

    The can earn in excess to £2000 every Sunday.

    Man, I should of become a kirtani!!!! Work hard for no reason.

    Every1 just wants pump esp these kirtani organisations!!!

  2. You guys are missing the point.

    AKJ in midlands are good guys, they STAND with the panth when comes to satkar/panthic issues etc. They see the bigger picture.

    AKJ London are the opposite and cultish. Ask any singh in london, they will agree.

    They are only open to members of their group - hence their buildings are used only for their group parchaar.

    Proatice brother, i think the truth has hurt you a little.

    Its not about version - its about narrow minds!

  3. I saw a thread earlier on here about Khalsa Secondary School and opposition from local community.

    Just a questions to anyone involved and will be able to respond (and the sangat to think about), will this be another AKJ/Missionary school?

    It is a well known fact that the likes of Dhunda and other hardcore missionary come to the primary school in slough, it even had Ragi there when he wasn't kicked out.

    No well respected Kathavachak (Bhai Pinderpal Singh, Giani Jangbir Singh, Nihang Mehtab Singh etc (i.e all non AKJ's)) so many come to UK every-year or even no well known kirtani (except AKJ kirtani and bhai harjinder singh shri nagar vale) come to the primary school.

    It is going to be another centre for AKJ parchaar in London and their families to utilize, or will the new school be asset to the London Sikh Community or just another building making good money?

  4. Great Result this weekend, I was present throughout.

    The gurdwara committee, bully the Punjabi Singhs on a daily basis.

    Finally they made a stand for themself and their voice heard - the photo was just one issues over the years where the committee have treated them like crap and 2nd class citizens in the Guru's house.

    Lets not forget these veer and bhens of ours doing amazing seva of getting hundreds of kids everyweek into the gurdwara to learn punjabi and sikhi.

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  5. Interesting,

    If rupinder singh refused to co-operate, then how comes theres another text going around about a meeting this week, infront of 5 singh, and guru granth sahib where everything will be put infront of the sangat, guru granth and guru panth.

    I really do hope this ends soon - as its getting petty.

    The sly cats and cobras are taking full advantage of the situation.

    hopefully at that meeting, both related parties can present their cases to the sangat with evidence.

  6. Few questions that need answering in order to clear up - from both sides -

    Machete your input would be great on this.

    1) Why isnt the owner ready to sit infront of 5singh and Guru Ji.

    2) Why did the mangement fail to see this comming?

    3) A meeting infront of Guru Panth and Guru Granth should be held, where both sides bring in evidence, bank docs, communication that has been transferred between the two parties, also independent auditors/accountants (paid for their service, and pref non sikh) alongside 5 singh and sangat to decide the truth.

    4) why are people like Mankamal (Had lots of respect for this character before - helped with satkar campaign) / mamugan getting involved and jumping on the hate bandwagon??? just to add mirch masala to the issue - they are neither the mangement or owner, don't turn up to acad neither do they do any seva @ acad - they are neither stakeholders or a shareholders in acad when it was running- so why are they out their NOW to name and shame - "to find the truth"??? - who are they to try lead a campaign against the mangement?? I remember many meetings being called, we used to come down - why were they never there? - these questions need answering, and serious thoughts. its people like these that are causing damage to sikhs in UK, and just making problems worser!

    I think it is VITAL for the owners perspective to be heard - it was his house on the line and i'm sure he has good legal and moral reasons for his steps.

    Everything said should be backed up with evidence, and should be done in a decent manner.

    Cats and Cobras such as mankamal, manMUGan/east ldn gurdwara committes/jathebandiya should be kept away from the situation - they are out to get either the management or the owner.

    What we really need is accountablity, need both sides to prevent their side in a decent manner, and people who were actual stake holders (families, national sangat as a whole) to hear the truth.

    Would be good to get the chnnels involved aswell.

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  7. Most amount of clowns on one show ever!

    Every single pannel member is a hyprocrit and doesn't believe in ekta.

    If Park Ave stage sec and slough stage sec did, then why was Dhunda called to divide the sangat?

    Pritpal Singh, Jaswant Randhawa, Satty all known to openly cuss taksali's to southall sangat.

    Congrats,

    Could of chose a better, non political people to represent this ekta card!

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  8. from facebook:
    With Guru Sahibs kirpa, sevadaars from 1G, have ripped the audio of some of Giani Sher Singhs Katha and made available for the sangat to download in audio form from here: http://www.1guk.com/multimedia/audio

    Giani Sher Singh is a fantastic kathavaachak, who talks openly with great passion and love about the Guru's Message and Bani.

    Please download and share.

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    Bhai Kuljit Singh (English Katha) has been updated to!

    Contact us: info@1guk.com

    Vist www.1guk.com for tons of english talks and katha!!!
  9. let me give you a reality check too - you're making a dogs dinner out of nothing mate .

    AKJ - are AKHAND KEERTANI JATHA - understand that first. There utmost seva is KEERTAN - which is a happening all over the uk and world wide. If they haven't been present in the questions and place you mention - doesn't mean they don't no alignment in the panth. - for crying out loud what kind of basless point are you making.

    The AKJ have a handful of singhs who do seva of yatra to Pakistan every year,a handful who do some political work -i.e Sikh coucil - British sikh council , a handful doing SOPW work for 84 prisoners in India. And loads others doing GUPT seva which non of us know about way way beyond our imagination.

    STOP your curiousity killed the cat questions and say something fruitful - which seva do you do yourself and are inclined to - ? forget any JATHA mate.

    Veer,

    I apologise if this seems small too you, but I feel different, as its the same Singhs who put their heads on the line, face prison sentences etc when it comes to stand for the panth, satkaar issues or gurmat principles.

    Dam Dami Taksal - is an educational institution, therefore according to you Sant Ji and gursikhs like Bhai Fauja singh should just do what their jatha specialise in?

    Taksal - Teach and learn about Gurbani, ithiaas etc.

    AKJ - just do kirtan? lol...

    Imagine if they did....

    Sorry its a valid observation, AKJ are a MASSIVE organisation/jathabandi.

    If they can all come out for their monthly rainsbai, house progs and smagams then why not for Guru Ji's Satkar Campaign? < That is an valid question which needs to be addressed not brushed aside.

    SOPW, Yatra sevadaars etc amazing seva, but still not an exuse to stand for the panth when its needed, and as you said a handful of singhs, what about other members of jatha?

  10. AKJ OR FED - doesn't matter at all - what matters is SANGAT.

    SANGAT IS highest of all.

    Sorry veer, reality check.

    When was the last time AKJ supported a programme except from their own rainsbais/kirtan/parchaar?

    (please do not bring in this thing bit about ekta and singh sahib giani ram singh - that was yesterday. I'm speaking prior to yesterday?)

    Very nice to see on TV, different factions/jathebandiya of Singhs once again turning up for a panthic Event...yet again no Akhand Kirtani Jatha - neither Slough or London members.

    Another Questions (Please do not take offensive - reply with evidence)

    Apart from bhai manvir singh from banbury (comming when he can), in all of the recent issues the panth has dealth with (dudlely/scotland etc - satkar for sggs protest, mixed marriage protest, luton - sikh girl case, dhunda issue) why is there no AKJ UK members participating?

    No representative from their committee? No Kirtani of theirs? No Prominient members attend? - is AKJ UK Panthic or does it care only abit the income and survival of it's jatha and views????

    Sorry if this sounds like I'm out to get AKJ Singhs. I'm just very curious why they don't allign themself with the panth. These are valid questions and any Singh that comes to the protests will realise that if they look back, its the same faces, the same people who make a stand for the panth when its needed....

    So much for: Jo To Prem Khelan Ka Chao!!

    Thanks.

  11. Slough Members of Committee who are reknonwed for causing trouble, pictures attached:

    Pic 1 - Banur

    2 - Pardhan

    3 - Jaswant Randhawa - He is the one who asked Dhunda to speak about Sikh Rehat Marayda and started the trouble in slough with Dhunda.

    There are a few more Cats which we faced in Slough during Dhunda Morcha. Will get more pictures, names and details.

    All paid agents.

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  12. Todays "Singhs" are more interested in buying and selling Shaster - the great profit making trade!!!

    Rather than doing Nitnem, Amritvela naam simran.

    Do nitnem and path, and watch the best shaster come to you. No need to sit infront of a screen for hours looking for shaster. (I no singhs, who keep no amritvela, listen to superfast "nitnem" and @ the same time searching google for shaster...but then very quick to wear bana at rainsbai/smagams/barsis/programs!)

    Theres nothing wrong with collecting shaster, but just don't be a pakhandi and collect shaster, wear them with bana, impress the sangat with your collection but really empty inside and all pakhand.

    bhul chuk maaf

    daas,

    j singh

  13. I think there is a need for central topics, on key issues which affect most sikh old and young alike.

    There are specific cases which can be discussed individually, however most people just look for general advice on the issue and it takes too long to find individual topics, where there are fantastic bits of advice, but its time to put it all together - which will help us all!

    This may be better in the gupt section?

    One such topic is off, Keeping Kes – common questions:

    “importance of keeping kes”

    “dealing with kes related issues”

    etc

    Post any advice/tips, inspirational stories that will help us stay in the form that the Guru wanted us to be in, and remain attached to Maharaj’s charan and not Mayas!

  14. I think there is a need for central topics, on key issues which affect most sikh old and young alike.

    There are specific cases which can be discussed individually, however most people just look for general advice on the issue and it takes too long to find individual topics, where there are fantastic bits of advice, but its time to put it all together - which will help us all!

    This may be better in the gupt section?

    One such topic is off, Singhs and Kaam – common questions:

    “how to beat/control kaam”

    “stop any bad actions”

    “have a kaam free mind”

    etc

    Post any advice/tips, inspirational stories that will help us stay away from kaam related problems, so we can focus our energy and thoughts on Maharaj, which will help us increase our love for the Guru.

  15. I think there is a need for central topic, on key issues which affect most sikh old and young alike.

    There are specific cases which can be discussed individually, however most people just look for general advice on the issue, and it takes too long to find individual topics, where there are fantastic bits of advice, but its time to put it all together - which will help us all!

    This may be better in the gupt section?

    One such topic is off, Waking up @ Amritvela

    common questions:

    “how to wake up @ amritvela”

    “the need for amritvela” – importance and significance

    “beating sleep”

    etc

    Post any advice/tips, inspirational stories that will help us have more solid Amritvelas / motivate us to get up and increase our love for the Guru.

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