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his family and friends say he wrote this letter, his sister who is religous herself claimed that this is what bhagat felt, he wrote many letters and articles in revolutionary papers regarding his choice to be an athiest and reason's behind it. read this book, in it, it talks about interviews with his friends and family the book is well researched to get an understanding of the world bhagat saw and his philosphy and what he wanted and the person he was http://www.amazon.com/Bhagat-Singh-Atheist...3659&sr=1-5 http://www.amazon.com/Shaheed-Bhagat-Singh...3659&sr=1-3 Yes bhagat was given books and paper to write and read, and he had occasionally sent out letters, one of the reasons bhagat went on hunger strike was for prisoner rights which meant clean food, book and newspapers and paper and pens and pencils. Bhagats family friends say he was an athiest, read a book on bhagat singh and see what he visioned for a future india, im against socialism but i can understand his socialist views cause he believed that once england left india would become a slave to corruption which it did. You also know bhagat never liked religous leaders.

The article was never written by Bhagat Singh...Only political prisoners such as Bhai Randhir Singh ji was given facilities such as books, newspapers and pen and paper...During talks between Gandhi and the British, Gandhi asked for all political prisoners to be released but the government refused to let Bhagat Singh go as they didnt consider him a political prisoner because he was so dangerous to the British Government. Therefore he wasn't allowed any of those facilities...The way they portray Bhagat Singh in films reading books by Karl Marx and on Marxism is wrong aswell...He wouldn't have had access to the books...He did however meet Bhai Randhir Singh ji and decide to take Amrit...This article and numerous others were writen by comrades and arya samajists later using Bhagat Singh's name!! his family and friends say he wrote this letter, his sister who is religous herself claimed that this is what bhagat felt, he wrote many letters and articles in revolutionary papers regarding his choice to be an athiest and reason's behind it. read this book, in it, it talks about interviews with his friends and family the book is well researched to get an understanding of the world bhagat saw and his philosphy and what he wanted and the person he was http://www.amazon.com/Bhagat-Singh-Atheist...3659&sr=1-5 http://www.amazon.com/Shaheed-Bhagat-Singh...3659&sr=1-3 Yes bhagat was given books and paper to write and read, and he had occasionally sent out letters, one of the reasons bhagat went on hunger strike was for prisoner rights which meant clean food, book and newspapers and paper and pens and pencils. Bhagats family friends say he was an athiest, read a book on bhagat singh and see what he visioned for a future india, im against socialism but i can understand his socialist views cause he believed that once england left india would become a slave to corruption which it did. You also know bhagat never liked religous leaders.

[Edited] Ppl claim that bhindranwale went into harmandar sahib to protect it, to that i respond with questions. Question 1. what would congress do if bhindranwale wasn't in harmandar sahib would they still attack. Question 2. what would indira gandhi and congress tell the world to protect their reputation and from being called nazis if they killed inocent sikhs and attacked harmandar sahib for no reason? Question 3. what would congress tell 15-20% of the indian army at that time which consisted of sikhs if they attacked harmandar sahib for no reason and just killed inocent sikhs. Question 4. Why would congress attack harmandar sahib for no reason and kill inocent sikhs for no reason Question 5. and if you read any biography of indira gandhi or listen to what other world leaders have said about her or read why bbc made her a candidate of being the 20th century's greatest women its cause she protected her reputation with fire, she would not let anything hurt her reputation, she wanted a reputation of a strong women who loved her ppl, so tell me if she attacked harmandar sahib and killed inocent sikhs for no reason what would she done to save her reputation??? Question 6. another question some may say if india's govt wasn't going to attack harmandar sahib for no reason then why did they attack 40 other gurdwaras to that i like to ask what 40 gurdwaras? could anyone name me these gurdwaras cause every khalistan website ive bin to claims their were 40 other gurdwaras attacked but won't name them,? and don't tell me what books to read to find info because chances are i have read those books and no were do they talk about the 40 gurdwaras being attacked, and if your going to tell me which book to read if you read them then tell me the names of the gurdwaras and what page i can look at on these books

if not the greatest leaders truly one of the greatest sikh leaders since the gurus time. Was a leader who led the sikhs to having their own homeland and led his ppl to building a sikh empire, revenged the pathans for the crimes they had commited against sikhs and treated everyone in the punjab with respect and equality. Is the sikh community today in desperate need for another leader like maharaja ranjit singh. This time to fight corruption and to guide the community for justice.

a book was released called why i am an athiest based on bhagat singhs life, it interviewed his sister and family and close friends, his family and many of his friends were hardcore sikhs but if you read the book you will see many sikhs critizised his parants when he took up athiesm and he got even more angry and made him more against god, his friends ppl he was in prision with his family members including his sister have all claimed he was an athiest you made a claim somewere else that communists made up the letter why i am an athiest, personally give me evidence that communists did it since your making such a claim, cause his sister and family and friends call the letter legit and say's what he wrote in that letter explains how he felt. i don't know who bhai sahib randhir singh ji was but i rather believe his friends and family, plus some sikhs went on to say that bhagat singh became a sikh again and went on to say that all the sacirfices of the other sikhs for freedom of india is far greater then his, well that makes me laugh cause can anyone name which sikhs he was talking about cause i call this a myth, just like bhai sahib randhir singh ji turned bhagat to god again i call this a myth. Bhagat wrote many letters and articles before he went to prison about athiesm as well. he use to write articles for his party and if people want to know how he felt this is a great book to read why i am an athiest. Respects to bhagat singh and his family who all fought for freedom when so many of our ppl who were leaderless unfortanatly ended up remainiing enslaved lions for britain and did what ever the british told them to do. But bhagat wouldn't consider what india is today a free country, full of corruption and poverty and class and caste system.

Edited - Criticizing Sant Jarnail Singh Ji without any credible shred of evidence is not allowed under any circumstance.

you know why thier's so much media coverage on sikh issues, right now their ppl in bc who arn't liking what their seeing and watching sikhs become british colombia's biggest success story's, 30 years ago surrey and vancouver use to be some of the most racist places in canada, read some of the struggles the first sikhs went through up till 30 years ago, sikhs were considered animals and looked down upon and surrey was extremely redneck skin head mentality city, but look at sikhs today they are the most successfull ppl in all of british colombia in all fields, in buisness the top buisness men in british comumbia are sikhs, in sports some of the most successfull athletes are sikhs in vancouver,(i also have a thread on sikh athletes and notice most the athletes come from vancouver) sikhs dominate in politics that it leaves other community's jealous of falling so far behind, because of this success some of the racists are now feeling insecure like kim bolan of the vancouver sun and will take any oppurtunity to attack sikhs, are community has issues but its funny how the media doesn't notice the good sides of our community and the racism we had to overcome, surrey was the dirtiest city in canada, now look at surrey the areas punjabis live in is probably some of the most beautiful areas in surrey and canada and the areas were the racist rednecks use to live in and still live in look like trailer park trash, pretty much half of surrey which is beautiful is beautiful cause of the sikhs who turned those areas around and built big beautiful homes in those areas and areas taht are poor are were the rest live but you wont' find punjabis living in dirty areas. Right now their is alot of jealousy over sikh success in british comumbia and get ready to feel more heat. Racists like kim bolan will never expose success story's but just the negative we need to fix the negatives also and really piss of these ppl But at the same time the sikh community does have some serous issues like kids joining gangs getting into drugs and dropping out of school, it would be a real shame if we went from being the biggest success story in canada who just got stronger with racism and everyother wall that was put in our way to being the biggest failures in the next 25 years. We do have issues but for what the sikhs have overcome in last 30 years to become most successfull comunity we now really need to come together to handle these challenges.

India has a sikh prime minister and he seems to be doing quite well. so if a sikh can run a country of over 1 billion people, what more proof do you need? peace. u mean the puppet on strings? In my opinion, the man is hopeless. He doesnt really have any power what so ever. I hear you. I can imagine apne wiping out each other if khalistan ever came into existance. he's smart and saved india's economy but thats all he's good for as pm, helping improve india's economy but has no power of his own to do anything else.

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he got caught planning another hit, his brother is underinvestigation for murders as well but problem is bad http://www.canada.com/vancouver/vancouvers...40-c874932aeee1 A history of organized crime in the Indo-Canadian community: Dozens of young Indo-Canadian men have been slain in recent years, caught in the violent world of organized crime and drug trafficking. Most of the cases remain unsolved. Vancouver Sun Published: Friday, June 10, 2005 Aug. 29, 2004 -- Manjinder Singh Nutt, already charged in a stabbing several months ago, is gunned down outside the Saanich basement he had rented for several months. Police say he had connections to the Lower Mainland Indo-Canadian gang scene. July 14, 2004 - Hardeep (Hardy) Bassi of Langley is found dead in his car in Abbotsford after shots are fired around 3:20 a.m. Friends of Bassi's family said he had gotten mixed up in gangs and drugs. May 4, 2004 -- Two Indo-Canadian men are found shot dead in a home in the 800-block of East 32nd Street in Vancouver. One of the victims is identified as Herman Dhillon, a former high school basketball star. The other victim's identity is not made public. Police say they believe the murders are gang-related. April 26, 2004 -- Harjit Ghoman is shot dead in his car in the Pacific National Exhibition's north parking lot. Ghoman, who had been at a concert at the PNE with his girlfriend, is shot in his car by a man wearing a balaclava. Ghoman was a suspect in a September 2000 shooting in Vancouver. March 23, 2004 -- Truck driver Karmen Singh Johl, 63, is found shot to death at the wheel of his Chrysler LeBaron on River Road in Delta. Johl had been convicted of drug trafficking in 1993 and lost property under the Proceeds of Crime Act in 1998. Police are investigating the possibility his murder was linked to Indo-Canadian gangs and cross-border smuggling. March 6, 2004 -- Gerpal (Paul) Dosanjh, 27, is shot to death inside the Gourmet Castle Restaurant on East Hastings. He is a cousin of the original Indo-Canadian gangsters -- Jimmy and Ron Dosanjh -- who were gunned down in 1994 by suspected associates of Bindy Johal Dec. 13, 2003 - Thirty-six year old trucker Gurwinder Singh Bath is found slumped in his car in Bear Creek Park in Surrey. Earlier in the year, Bath, who worked for R&S Transportation Ltd., had been implicated in a cross-border marijuana-smuggling scheme involving commercial trucks. Aug. 16, 2003 -- Three people are killed and six are wounded, including several innocent bystanders, after shooting breaks out between bikers and Indo-Canadian gang members at the Loft Six nightclub in Gastown. "Paul" Dosanjh survives a shot in the head, but is killed just months later. Aug. 8, 2003 -- Bobby Johal is gunned down in an upscale Saanich neighbourhood. He was wounded three years earlier in a July 2000 attack that claimed the life of his younger brother, Gurinder. Sources say the brothers had been involved in marijuana trafficking. June 8, 2003 -- The body of 20-year-old Jaspal Toor is found in south Vancouver. A 26-year-old Burnaby man is charged with second-degree murder. Police say Toor was involved in minor drug activity. Nov. 18, 2002 -- Davinder Singh Gharu, 21, is shot outside his New Westminster home. He was a close friend of Jaskaran Singh Chima, who was murdered in spring 2002, and an associate of Robbie Kandola, murdered in June. Sources say the intended target of the hit was actually Gharu's cousin Peter Adiwal. Nov. 16, 2002 -- The body of Heera (Hari) Singh Bahia, 24, is found near Mission. Bahia, who had gang associations, disappeared in August. Nov. 1, 2002 -- Abenaas (Abby) Jaswal is doused with flammable liquid and set on fire in a ravine beside a Belcarra regional park road. Port Moody police believe the Simon Fraser University student got involved in a drug scheme that went bad. Sept. 29, 2002 -- The body of known drug dealer Kamaljit Singh Sangha of Vancouver is discovered near Nelson Ave. and Marine Drive in Burnaby. Sources say Sangha was killed because he gunned down 22-year-old Michael Ly three months earlier outside a Metrotown apartment building. June 23, 2002 -- Cocaine dealer Robbie Kandola is murdered by killers waiting for him as he gets out of a cab in front of his Coal Harbour apartment. Former gangster Bal Buttar said he arranged the hit because Kandola had ordered the murder of Buttar's brother Kelly six months earlier. April 1, 2002 -- Gurjinder (Gary) Singh Sidhu is chased down and shot to death by two men lying in wait for him at the Delta house where his family had been hiding in fear of retaliation for another killing. Three men are later convicted. Buttar says Sidhu, along with his friends Rick Bhatti and Ned Mander, were killed over a heroin smuggling scheme that went bad. March 18, 2002 -- New Westminster police discover the body of 25-year-old Jaskaran Singh Chima in a burning car under the Alex Fraser Bridge. Chima was a known drug dealer. Buttar admits he arranged the hit on Chima who he believed was involved in his brother Kelly's December 2001 murder. Jan. 2, 2002 -- The body of Phouvong Phommaviset, 26, is found near the Fraser River in Richmond. Phommaviset was a suspect in the disappearance of Ned Mander the previous October. Dec. 22, 2001 -- Kuljit Singh (Kelly) Buttar, 22, is shot dead at a Richmond wedding. Nov. 21, 2001 -- The bound bodies of Gurpreet Singh Butter, 25, and Sukhjinder Singh Sahota, 27, are found shot to death on the riverfront near Dyke Road in Richmond. Buttar says the pair was killed over the same heroin deal that involved Sidhu, Bhatti and Mander. Oct. 9, 2001 -- Narinder (Ned) Singh Mander is kidnapped from his Surrey business by two men and has not been seen since. Hours later, he makes a call to a friend in a car with Rakinder (Rick) Singh Bhatti. Minutes later, shots are fired at the car near Surrey's Dasmesh Darbar temple and Bhatti is killed. Mander and Bhatti were allegedly involved in a heroin smuggling scheme that went bad. Sept. 29, 2001 -- Kamalbir (Kam) Jawanda is shot dead outside the home of Sarbjit Singh Dhanda, a former Bindy Johal associate and friend of Rick Bhatti and Gary Sidhu. Dhanda is convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to five years. Aug. 20, 2001 -- Tyler Hawryluk, 22, an associate of the Buttar brothers and Bindy Johal, is found shot dead in Burnaby. Hawryluk was executed by associates of Bal Buttar who believed he had been the triggerman in the attempted execution of Buttar two weeks earlier. Aug. 3, 2001 -- Gary Rai and Baljit Singh (Bal) Buttar are shot at a Vancouver hair salon. Rai is killed and Buttar, a former Bindy Johal associate, is left paralysed. Buttar says Rai conspired with Hawryluk, Buttar's girlfriend and the woman's new love to take him out. July 9, 2001 - Lakhwinder Singh Sahota, a dispatcher for R&S Transportation, is shot in the leg as he arrives for work by an Indo-Canadian male who mutters something in Punjabi. Jan. 15, 2001 -- The body of 24-year-old Krishan Sharma, who is known to police, is found in a pond under the Pattullo Bridge. Sources say Sharma was choked to death, stripped and burned because he was responsible for a shooting a short time before that left a man critically wounded. Sept. 14, 2000 -- Suspected drug dealer Gurpreet Singh Sohi, 20, is shot to death in Delta. Three of his former associates -- Robbie Soomel, Gogi Mann and Hardip Uppal -- are later convicted. Sept. 9, 2000 -- Parmjit Singh Gill, 20, of Burnaby, and 26-year-old Raj Soomel, of Vancouver, are shot and wounded in an exchange of gunfire outside Soomel's family home on East 59th. Soomel's brother Robbie believed the shooters were Harj Ghoman, killed in 2004, Gurpreet Sohi, shot a week later by Soomel and admitted gangster Mindy Bhandher. Aug. 25, 2000 -- Manmohan Singh Tiwana, 26, is found shot in the head in his car in Surrey. Sources say Tiwana was selling cocaine when a customer decided to steal a kilo and murdered Tiwana in the process. Aug. 4, 2000 -- Sanjeev Gill is shot and wounded outside Bar None, in downtown Vancouver. July 27, 2000 -- Gurinder Singh Johal, 22, is shot to death in Port Coquitlam. His brother, Bobby Johal, 24, is wounded. Bobby is a former associate of Gurinder Khun Khun, killed in 1997. May 13, 2000 -- Mike Brar, 21, acting as a bodyguard for alleged cocaine trafficker Ranjit Singh Cheema, is shot to death outside a west-side Vancouver wedding attended by hundreds of people, including former premier turned Federal Health Minister Ujjal Dosanjh. Sources say Robbie Kandola arranged the hit on the popular Brar. Feb. 14, 2000 -- The charred body of 21-year-old Rishi Singh, of Vancouver, is found dumped near Squamish. His burned car is later found in Surrey. Robbie Soomel and Daljit (Umboo) Basran are arrested but released a day later. Sept. 3, 1999 -- Vikash Naidu, 23, of Vancouver, and Kuldeep Singh, 25, of Richmond, are fatally shot at close range in the parking lot of a 7-Eleven in Richmond. Bal Buttar says he was the "middleman" in arranging the hit on Singh, but that Naidu was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. May 20, 1999 -- The body of Deepak Sodhi, 19, of Vancouver, is found on a dike in Delta with gunshot wounds. Robbie Soomel remains a suspect in the murder. Dec. 20, 1998 -- Bhupinder Singh (Bindy) Johal, 27, is shot dead at Vancouver's Palladium nightclub. Bal Buttar says he arranged the hit on Johal for $20,000 after the notorious cocaine dealer became reckless and started killing some of his own associates. Nov. 29, 1998 -- Johal friend Roman (Danny) Mann, 22, is found murdered in New Westminster. Buttar says Johal killed Mann because Mann wanted out of the criminal organization. Nov. 18, 1998 -- Moderate Sikh newspaper publisher Tara Singh Hayer is shot dead in his Surrey garage. A gangland trial last year heard that Indo-Canadian gangsters were paid $50,000 by the Babbar Khalsa terrorist group to kill Hayer, who was to be a witness at the Air India trial. Oct. 7, 1998 -- Drug dealer Vikash Chand, 26, is shot dead outside Rags to Riches Motorcars in Burnaby. Johal went to the scene with Buttar and Mann because he was shocked by his friend Chand's death. Buttar says Johal was not involved in the murder. Sept. 19, 1998 -- Johal associate Derek Chand Shankar, 19, is found shot to death under the Queensborough Bridge in New Westminster. Buttar says he witnessed Johal shoot Shankar after Shankar insulted the crime boss earlier in the evening. Oct. 21, 1997 -- Gorinder Singh Khun Khun, 24, is shot dead in Vancouver. While Khun Khun had been hanging out with Johal in the period before his death, Buttar says Johal ordered the hit because he suspected Khun Khun was the shooter in the 1994 attempt on Johal's life that left his neighbour Glen Olson dead. Jan. 19, 1997 -- Amarjit Singh Dheil, 31, is gunned down as he leaves the Marpole Community Centre in Vancouver after a late-night floor hockey game. Buttar says the hit was ordered by Johal. Oct. 11, 1995 -- Suspected drug dealer Paul Jabbal, 22, dies after being found at Southeast Marine Drive and Elliott in Vancouver with gunshot wounds. Sources say Jabbal was killed after becoming addicted to his own product, reducing his profits from illegal drug sales. June 10, 1995 -- The charred body of Peter Manjeet Dosanj is found in a stolen van set afire in a Delta field. Police say the death is linked to the drug underworld. April 24, 1994 -- Johal's neighbour, Glen Olson, is walking a dog when he is shot dead. Police suspect he was mistaken for Johal by associates of Ron Dosanjh. Buttar says Khun Khun was the likely shooter. April 19, 1994 -- Drug dealer Ranjit Singh (Ron) Dosanjh, former head of the Vancouver branch of the International Sikh Youth Federation, is killed on Kingsway. Johal and associates are eventually charged, but acquitted. Feb. 25, 1994 -- Drug dealer Jimsher Singh (Jimmy) Dosanjh, Ron's brother, is shot dead. Johal and associates are eventually charged and acquitted. Dec. 2, 1991 -- Sanjay Narain, who witnessed the murder of Parminder Chana, is thrown off the Cleveland Dam, allegedly for "yapping" too much about the Parminder Chana killing. Oct. 11, 1991 -- Parminder Chana is murdered, apparently because he was dating the sister of Rajinder (Little) Benji, who is charged with the murder but is acquitted. Faizal Dean, a Johal associate, is convicted of second-degree murder. March 14, 1991 -- Sikh moderate leader Bikar Singh Dhillon is shot and wounded outside his home. The hit is believed to have been arranged by a political opponent, drug dealer Ron Dosanjh. -- compiled by Kim Bolan

someone should get in touch with kash gill, he's a sikh kickboxer probably greatest kickboxer england produced and 4 time world kickboxing champion, he livs in birmingham, see if he can give kickboxing lessons to sikhs and show up to sikh camps and give some kickboxing lessons Some of the guys he trains are some of the top kickboxers and gots guy's who he trains fighting in k1 he's got his own gym so can send some sikh kids their in birmingham http://www.birminghammail.net/news/top-sto...97319-20578160/

ahahaha...dam that was wikid but boxing is nothing compared to muthai boxing and brazilian jiu jitsu...thats the real deal oh i agree without a doubt ive said it a thousand times that muay thai kickboxing and brazilion ji jitsu and include krav maga are the greatest fighting systems their are and far better then any martial arts like kung fu but the reason i saying kickboxing and boxing is for stand up, when your being attacked by a gang of guys you have to know how to stand up fight hence why i said boxing and kickboxing cause brazilion ji jitsu only helps in a one on one fight not when your being attacked by a group of men, cause if you go to the ground your getting stomped its great for take downs but you can't go to the ground so once again sikhs need to learn boxing and kickboxing for stand up fighting if their being attacked by a gang, but i also should say krav maga its used by american army and many other army's and is known to be the best street fighting system in the world.

more sikhs need to get into boxing and kickboxing. http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=6iDlzL7zrNU

last question how much influence does obama's pastor have on him???

i think you misunderstood alot of i said, and i never called him corrupt plus his speaches are just words, don't repeat that speach again that he made were he said that words are powerfull cause yes words are extremely powerfull and can change the world, but in obama's case he's just words and show, their is no action behind those words. How is he going to save american's economy once again he's just words, YES WE CAN just words from this leader, their powerfull words if from the right leader tell me whats his economic plan and the postives of it and im going to show you the negatives of his economic plan, he's to socialist secondly tell me has his pastor influenced him in any way including his policy's??? and with evidence i will show you how his pastors belief in black theology has influenced obama and his policy's and obama might not even notice it also obama's speach of a more perfect union yes were just words before he gave that speach and his pastors stuff was blowing up i predicted actually many ppl predicated what he had to say, one he couldn't disown his pastor cause he would be attacked for it cause ppl would say he only disown him for the election, everyone knew he had to bring up racism and how on hilary clinton having no experience hold on your saying she had no influence when bill in white house, could you tell me what impact she had in bosnia even though she exaderated the story of having to duck for cover but she did have a HUGE influence in bosnia also tell me what many whitehouse members and ex whitehouse members said about hilary when it came to nafta, even though she was forced to support it whitehouse insiders said she had the hugest resistance against it also about healthcare coudl you tell me what type of roll hilary played with health care actually could you tell me what makes you think barack obama will bring change also iran wants to make nukes, the UN knows this and the us know this, the whole world knows this, isreal is going to bomb them for sure in next 3 years, what role will he play in that??? iran is a dangerous country especially with its leader trying to make a nuke and saying isreal will be wiped off the face of the planet and him talking about how in this generation the shia prophet will come out when the world is at war ALSO HOW DO BLACKS FACE DISCRIMINATION AND GET HELD BACK, THEE FIRST SIKHS WHO CAME TO AMERICA PROBABLY HAD IT EVEN HARDER AND NOW THEIR FAMILY'S ENJOY EXTREME WEALTH, THESE SIKHS LACKED ENGLISH WORE TURBONS AND HAD FACED ALOT OF DISCRIMINATION YET BECAME SUCCESS STORY'S, SO HOW CAN AFRICAN AMERICANS SAY THEY GET HELD BACK BY DISCRIMINATION??? ALSO SOMETHING TO WATCH http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=YFj1HmNASwE even today sikhs are incredibily successfull in america yet after 9/11 they probably face worste discrimination then african americans so how can anyone say the govt is doing anything wrong to blacks BUT MOST IMPORTANT TO ME IS HIS ECONOMIC PLAN CAUSE THIS IS WHAT WILL MAKE AMERICA GO CRASHING DOWN FURTHER WHICH WILL GET HIM KICKED OUT IN 2012 IF HE'S SERIOUS ABUOT HIS ECONOMIC PLAN, BUT COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME OBAMA ECONOMIC PLAN AND THE BENIFITS AND THE NEGATIVES??? Mod note: Your post is being approved because you seem to have spent so much effort arguing your points. But in future could you please not use continuous capital letters as it is the cyber equivalent of shouting and gives the impression that you are easily losing your temper. Thank you.