Inder Singh

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Nobody said that dasam granth is equal to SGGS ji. It was pointed out repeatedly that there is no competition between two granths.It was said that two are like brothers. He was insistent on denigrating Dasam granth.Wrong refrences were being given such as of kavi sainapat and Bhai nand lal.That is not tolerable given the hostility dispalyed by certain elements to wards bani of dasam pita.

Can admin delete the above post.This is nothing but nonsense uttered against a respected member of this forum.

You think you are too clever. Do not show your cleverness here as you are caught high and dry on many points. If you continue your nonsense, i will also suggest admin to ban you for spraeding misinformation. These pople are not sikhs.They are here for propaganda and will keep on surfacing each day. That shows that there is a conspiracy against sikhs.The one aim is to spread propaganda aginst dasam bani and break sikhs away from that so that their amrit is destroyed.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh listening to the two sacred Granths being recited near Sri Harimandir Sahib. (A Painting by August Theodore Schoefft (1809-1888), made in Amritsar. From Princess Bamba Collection) The above photo is for those gurnindaks to see what sikhs were doing when they were in charhdi kala. You were here on fishing trip. you got your match. That is what gurnindaks will get from enlightened khalsa. He is quoting this Doha and repeatedly telling us that it is written by Guru Gobind singh. A total lie aimed at spreading misinformation. This doha was written by Giani Gian singh. Before that prahlad singh wrote something on this line. He first writes Guru khalsa maniyo pargat gurua ki deh Jo sikh mo milbe chahi khoj inho mein leh ( verse 24) Further he wites akal ke bachan sion pargat chalayo panth sabh sikhan ko bachan hai guru maniyo granth( verse 30) Such gurnindaks who have aim of spreading misinformation by denigrating granth of tenth amster need to be banned. But before that he names mischieviously Kavi sainapat for writing something on this line. No way. Kavi sainapat writes that jyot was given to khalsa panth. he does not mention about guru granth at all. But we know that traditions can never be wrong and we accept guru sahib's verbal command about guruship to SGGS ji.That does not mean we have ti discard his wriitngs as these propagandists want us to do. Dasam granthw as always in parkash along side SGGS duirng dal khalsa, misl and sikh rule period right upto 1944. We are paying the price for discontinuing that practice.

By same logic i nsak you where is it written that SGGS our Guru.Show us where. Giving respect to dasam granth does not take Guruship away from SGGS ji. Those who are showing their respect to Dasam granth are the ones who have sacrificed always for the panth.Heretic elements have not stood for panth anywhere so far. You change your statement so many times/ Dasam Granth was always n parkash alongside SGGS in old times.Are you sayimng those sikhs were not knowing what to do.

Again same crap without any refrence. LSB mentions name of kavi sainapat.kavi sainapat writes in his book " Gur shobha" that Guru sahib gave gurgaddi to khalsa.He does not mention gurgaddi being given to SGGS ji. you are lying as far as kavi sainapat is concerned. You are saying that doha is written by Guru Gobind singh ji. This is another lie.Doha is not written y guru gobind singh ji. If you think so please give Give refrence for that. When you say that Guru sahib said that his body is in khlasa.Khalsa cann't be initiated without dasam Granth.That itself gives recognition to dasam granth. Those who spread nonsensical propaganda against dasam granth in disguise are neither sikhs nor well wishers of sikhs. These people will manifest in different categories with different theories.But their aim is one indulge in subtle propaganda against dasam Granth sahib.Do they not know that dasam granth is deeply embedded in sikh psyche.They know it but they will adopt different postures to spread misinformation.They will quote ardas and when told ardas itself is from dasam granth they will toe a different line. Again there is no competition between two granths.They complement each other.Do not propagate against bani of tenth master.Those who do are enemies of sikhs.sikhs have woken up to identify them. there is no need to say that.You do not have to stretch to that.Do you know what is meant by Jog and jugti?If not read and understand. That is the difference between a sikh and otehr religions. A sikh is not a pujari only. he is a saint soldier or sant sipahi.That is why sikhs have SGGS and dasam granth. very well written post and to the point.

Some people are allergic to dasam granth either out of mischief or out of ignorance.They say respect to Dasam Granth will mean disrespect to SGGS ji. That is not correct. Foundation of khalsa panth is on both granths. Some quote ardas to prove that sggs is the only granth.Little do they know that ardas pauri is itself from dasam granth. Read below ੴ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ ॥ ੴ वाहिगुरू जी की फतह ॥ The Lord is one and the Victory is of the Lord. ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ स्री भगउती जी सहाइ ॥ May SRI BHAGAUTI JI (The Sword) be Helpful. ਵਾਰ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਗਉਤੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥ ਪਾਤਸਾਹੀ ੧੦ ॥ वार स्री भगउती जी की ॥ पातसाही १० ॥ The Heroic Poem of Sri Bhagauti Ji (By) The Tenth King(Guru). ਪ੍ਰਿਥਮ ਭਗੌਤੀ ਸਿਮਰਿ ਕੈ ਗੁਰੁ ਨਾਨਕ ਲਈਂ ਧਿਆਇ ॥ प्रिथम भगौती सिमरि कै गुरु नानक लईं धिआइ ॥ In the beginning I remember Bhagauti, the Lord (Whose symbol is the sword and then I remember Guru Nanak. ਫਿਰ ਅੰਗਦ ਗੁਰ ਤੇ ਅਮਰਦਾਸੁ ਰਾਮਦਾਸੈ ਹੋਈਂ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ फिर अंगद गुर ते अमरदासु रामदासै होईं सहाइ ॥ Then I remember Guru Arjan, Guru Amar Das and Guru Ram Das, may they be helpful to me. ਅਰਜਨ ਹਰਿਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਨੋ ਸਿਮਰੌ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿਰਾਇ ॥ अरजन हरिगोबिंद नो सिमरौ स्री हरिराइ ॥ Then I remember Guru Arjan, Guru Hargobind and Guru Har Rai. ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਕਿਸ਼ਨ ਧਿਆਈਐ ਜਿਸ ਡਿਠੇ ਸਭਿ ਦੁਖਿ ਜਾਇ ॥ स्री हरि किशन धिआईऐ जिस डिठे सभि दुखि जाइ ॥ (After them) I remember Guru Har Kishan, by whose sight all the sufferings vanish. ਤੇਗ ਬਹਾਦਰ ਸਿਮਰਿਐ ਘਰ ਨਉ ਨਿਧਿ ਆਵੈ ਧਾਇ ॥ तेग बहादर सिमरिऐ घर नउ निधि आवै धाइ ॥ Then I do remember Guru Tegh Bahadur, though whose Grace the nine treasures come running to my house. ਸਭ ਥਾਈਂ ਹੋਇ ਸਹਾਇ ॥੧॥ सभ थाईं होइ सहाइ ॥१॥ May they be helpful to me everywhere Vaar sri bhagauti ji ki, dasam granth

Again there is no competition betwen two granths.Those who say like this are not well wishers of sikh panth. Ardas itself is from dasam Granth . Do not you know that? Where are these words written. Show us.Just saying at Hazoor sahib mean nothing. There were two Gurus 1) Guru Granth 2) Guru Panth i.e. khalsa panth You do not beocme khalsa without Dasam Granth. If there is no dasam granth there is no khalsa panth. There is no khalsa panth ,there is no sikhism. How do you get term waheguru.Who gives us that term. Those who preach against dasam granth want sikhs to finish themselves.They go out of way to create rivalary between SGGS ji and dasam granth. Any propaganda against dasam granth is against guidelines of this site.

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ਇਹ ਗਲ ਕਦੇ ਵੀ ਅੱਖੋਂ ਓਹਲੇ ਨਹੀਂ ਹੋਣੀ ਚਾਹੀਦੀ ਕਿ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਵਰਗੀ ਕ੍ਰਾਂਤੀਕਾਰੀ ਹਸਤੀ ਦੀ ਰਚਨਾ ਵਿਚ ਕੁਛ ਖਾਸ ਵਿਚਿਤ੍ਰਤਾ ਹੈ। ਚਾਹੇ ਸਾਡੀ ਅਨਗਹਲੀ ਜਾਂ ਅਰੁਚੀ ਕਾਰਣ ਇਹ ਰਚਨਾਂ ਸਾਡੇ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰ ਦੇ ਦਾਇਰੇ ਤੋਂ ਬਾਹਰਵਾਰ ਰਹੀ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਇਸ ਰਚਨਾਂ ਦੀ ਬੁਝੀ ਹੋਈ ਭਸਮ ਵਿਚ ਵੀ ਦੱਬੇ ਹੋਏ ਲਾਲ ਅੰਗਾਰੇ ਹਨ, ਜੋ ਲੋੜ ਸਮੇਂ , ਫਿਰ ਭੜਕ ਸਕਦੇ ਹਨ ਤੇ ਅੰਦੋਲਣ ਦਾ ਕਾਰਜ ਸੰਪੂਰਣਤਾ ਤਕ ਲਿਜਾ ਸਕਦੇ ਹਨ। (ਡਾ. ਬਲਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ, ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਤੁਕ-ਤਤਕਰਾ) We should never lose sight that writings of revolutionary personality of Guru Gobind singh ji have special significance. Whether due to our carelessness or unmindfulness, these compositions have remained outside the sphere of our preaching.But in the extinguished ashes of these compositions there are fireworks, that on requirement, can spark again and will lead our struggle to completeness Dr Balbir Singh on Dasam Granth tuk tatkra

Where is it written, please show us. Again nobody is comparing two granths. It is plain ignorance to compare these granths as there is no rivalary between them.

Nobody is comparing two granths.Only enemies of sikhism say about comparison.Two granths are brothers. There is no rivalary.They complement each other.

dasam Granth is a sikh granth. Knock out those personalities from that channel who oppose dasam granth.

Maharaja Ranjit Singh listening to the two sacred Granths being recited near Sri Harimandir Sahib. (A Painting by August Theodore Schoefft (1809-1888), made in Amritsar. From Princess Bamba Collection)

Learn some English beofre writing nonsense here.You have only one agenda and that is lick shoes of kala afghani sect such as Punjab radio presenters and otehrs.

can someone vidotape it and put it on youtube. Waheguru ji

Punab radio is a supporter of heretic kala afghna sect. There is nothing new in this.

This is what agents are trained for. To introduce other topics and divert the thread. If you feel i did that. Why did you keep shut that time.Why are you speaking now on a thread which is for discussion on a die hard anti panthic kala afghna chela. If someone does slander bani of my guru i will expose him with all my strength.Make no mistake about it. Did i talk about ghagha or dilgeeer? Not at all.My focus was on this heretic jasvir.See below before uttering bukwas quote My reply It is my reply for heretic jasvir that has irked you . That shows your agenda here.

This rogue is a kala afghani agent.He is no khalsa.These are the tricks these thugs use to hoodwink sikhs. I thinking you the india rss agent. i reading the lots of topic on sikhsangat and seeing you all the time do calling other peoples anti dasam grant or the agent because yoy brain not clever to write anything other. How you knowing the peoples are the agent. I knowing you this it because you agent with the same peoples. So you is being the afghani agent and you meeting the other agent in the meetings. This topic some peoples asking for the email but you doing the spoil again. How many time you doing the topic spoil. I think you not doing any topic write about topic but writing about Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji because you having secret to doing spoil forum topic every time. Any you doing beadbi lots forums topics you writing granth and not full respect of writing Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji. You no respect anyone or respect forum but full krodh and spoiling all the time forum. Even in the english school the teacher saying us Guru Granth Sahib Ji with respect then you doing like langoor and writing just granths. The english teacher doing the more respect of Guru then you writing this forum. I hope MehtaB SIngh doing the read this is post and doing his new ruling to you because you spoiling all the time this forum. The proof of m y being an agent or not is in my writing. Let sangat read and decide. jasvir is a buddy of inder Ghaghan and dilgeer. These people are subverting sikh history and denigrating sikh scriptures. That is a proof enough to brand these kala afghanis as traitors of sikhs. They are getting exposed . Write on the subject instead of getting personal. Have you got anything to defend the record of these gurnindaks. If Inder Singh is an agent for supporting tenth Guru, then I too am proud to be one as well. Panjab Radio are good with media propaganda, they select their callers so only their own people who agree with them get through. Now they have started to send their supporters to call Sikh Channel as well in every debate. Of course, then there are the internet warriors who will pop up everytime the truth about Panjab radio is exposed. No one questioned this mahan bani of the tenth Guru in PURAATAN times. The enemies have now found one of the roots of Sikhi power. That is obvious from their posts. It is a fact that this radio is misleading people about basics of sikhism by toeing line of thugs like kala afghana. They are being exposed by gursikhs. Keep up the good work and time is not far off when these anti sikh agents will be marginalized.Lies do not abound forever.

This rogue is a kala afghani agent.He is no khalsa.These are the tricks these thugs use to hoodwink sikhs. I thinking you the india rss agent. i reading the lots of topic on sikhsangat and seeing you all the time do calling other peoples anti dasam grant or the agent because yoy brain not clever to write anything other. How you knowing the peoples are the agent. I knowing you this it because you agent with the same peoples. So you is being the afghani agent and you meeting the other agent in the meetings. This topic some peoples asking for the email but you doing the spoil again. How many time you doing the topic spoil. I think you not doing any topic write about topic but writing about Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji because you having secret to doing spoil forum topic every time. Any you doing beadbi lots forums topics you writing granth and not full respect of writing Sri Dasam Granth Sahib Ji. You no respect anyone or respect forum but full krodh and spoiling all the time forum. Even in the english school the teacher saying us Guru Granth Sahib Ji with respect then you doing like langoor and writing just granths. The english teacher doing the more respect of Guru then you writing this forum. I hope MehtaB SIngh doing the read this is post and doing his new ruling to you because you spoiling all the time this forum. The proof of m y being an agent or not is in my writing. Let sangat read and decide. jasvir is a buddy of inder Ghaghan and dilgeer. These people are subverting sikh history and denigrating sikh scriptures. That is a proof enough to brand these kala afghanis as traitors of sikhs. They are getting exposed . Write on the subject instead of getting personal. Have you got anything to defend the record of these gurnindaks.

This rogue is a kala afghani agent.He is no khalsa.These are the tricks these thugs use to hoodwink sikhs.

That does not mean that they will indulge in yellow journalism and give one side of story favouring a heretic darshan Ragi

Ragi is in india.I am not from england. But let me know is there nobody to discipline radio punjab.I heard these heretics have very few followers in UK>