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  1. Thanks a lot for the reply.Kindly take up the posts of 'poore satgur' and 'ego related'

    regards ~ssa~

  2. Respected Sis, I have gone thru. your post twice. But could not make out much.All I could make out from this is that you are quoting some friend no_one and starting your discussion as a datum.Let me clarify that I am very new to sikhi and have very basic doubts that all other posts would reveal. I do expect that this forum should be a place to discuss where all god lovers meet and come. Frankly speaking it may be my weak english that I could not make out much.MY two posts are unanswered for quite some time. May be you can kindly attend to them as well.I shall be grateful. My primary question remains as it is.You have tried to cover up the things in the fashion that has made it difficult to understand. I shall request you to kindly answer the basic question. Regards
  3. Thanks again with a request to kindly atend to two other posts that are again in the form of questions and may require sometime .You may answer them or attend to them at your convenience. Thanks
  4. Thank you sister for taking out time and detailing out the techniques in a scientific and very effective manner. I do not think another reply is required.However, as the topic is of fair interest to all, let the thread continue. Thanks once again for nice coverage that was indeed extensive. Regards
  5. Purpose : that is God's domain or jurisdiction.All that HE gives us has to be meaningfull.He would have attached some purpose to the senses. He can supply us with that is meaningless or whose usage is to be restricted in a particular manner.[Maya,Trigunas,Haume and five theif are the things that we get: where is Man's fault.] Kindly clarify/enlighten.
  6. Dera friend, It was an informative speech.Thanks a lot for this. It would be nice of you if you could explain as : 1.What is 'sabad'. 2.Is it Naam.? 3.How do we say that 'shabad is the supreme Guru? 4.'Shabad ' is 'parkash-sarup' and prakash is 'sabad -sarup.' .What is the meaning of this 5.We have to meditate on Sabad? What is the exact meaning of this. 6.What is the meaning of Sans..alpha...gamma..etc. Kindly explain. Das would be very grateful.It is this word that I am not able to appreciate and hence feel stuck up.Your help is solicited. Forgive me for my ignorance. Regards.
  7. hir kQw suxih sy DnvMq idsih jug mwhI ] (231-5, gauVI, mÚ 3) Those who listen to the Lord's Sermon are seen to be the wealthy people in this world. iqn kau siB invih Anidnu pUj krwhI ] (231-6, gauVI, mÚ 3) Everyone bows down to them, and adores them, night and day. shjy gux rvih swcy mn mwhI ]7] (231-6, gauVI, mÚ 3) They intuitively savor the Glories of the True Lord within their minds. ||7|| pUrY siqguir sbdu suxwieAw ] (231-7, gauVI, mÚ 3) The Perfect True Guru has revealed the Shabad; qRY gux myty cauQY icqu lwieAw ] (231-7, gauVI, mÚ 3) it eradicates the three qualities, and attunes the consciousness to the fourth state. nwnk haumY mwir bRhm imlwieAw ]8]4] (231-7, gauVI, mÚ 3) O Nanak, subduing egotism, one is absorbed into God. ||8||4|| The second time it appears is again reproduced below: sbid mnu rMigAw ilv lwie ] (233-1, gauVI, mÚ 3) The mind is attuned to the Word of the Shabad; it is lovingly attuned to the Lord. inj Gir visAw pRB kI rjwie ]1] (233-1, gauVI, mÚ 3) It abides within its own home, in harmony with the Lord's Will. ||1|| The third Time it appears is as follows: ris pRyim imlI jIau sbid suhwvY ] (243-4, gauVI, mÚ 1) Tasting His Love, she meets Him, through the Beautiful Word of His Shabad. sbdy suhwvY qw piq pwvY dIpk dyh aujwrY ] (243-5, gauVI, mÚ 1) Adorned with the Shabad, she obtains her Husband, and her body is illuminated with the lamp of spiritual wisdom. **************************************************** I shall be garteful if you can kindly explain the meaning of the colored lines.Esp. 1.Poore satgur 'sabad' sunaya. What is this 'sabad'? Is it the sabad of sabad Keertan as is employed for the praise of lord or does it mean something else.These kinds of lines appear at many places and being new I cannot make out the meaning. 2. What are the tri-gunas and how these are removed? 3.What is the meaning Of 'Mind is attuned to the 'word of sabad'. [as per the second set of lines]The translator has used 'word Of sabad'. 4. What is the 'Fourth state' It should have been 'sabad' in normal course. Kindly explain ? I shall be very grateful. Regards to all
  8. Thank you Friend for reference, it is a long post and you must have read it more than once.Will it be too much if you can kindly provide the gist in the format of serial numbers. Thanks,
  9. This is a problem for all the seekers. It is thought that it is an appropriate place to discuss the techniques and methods of controlling the mind so that one can concemtrate.It is requested that those who have practised this may kindly throw light on this.Gurbani has stated that it is very difficult to control it.It is HIS grace that can be helpful but we should also make some efforts. Members who have practised this may kindly guide.
  10. I presume that by listening to 'naam' the blind person gets His inner not physical eyes opened and he can also walk the spiritual path as is required by sikhi. It should be the logical way of interpreting it. May be we have other opinion as well.Kindly post as to what do you think.
  11. Dear friend, May be this post ends up in a question. 1.Maya is HIS creation. 2.Trugunas are HIS creation. 3.Five theives is HIS gift. 4.Haume is implanted by HIM. Can we ever over rule all this that is implanted ,with some purpose, within us.? I have not found out the answer my self.Had these been not the requirements ,these should not have been given. What do you think.?Kindly answer and forgive for my ignorance. dosu nhI kwhU kau mIqw ] (257-11, gauVI, mÚ 5) No one is at fault, my friend. mwieAw moh bMDu pRiB kIqw ] (257-12, gauVI, mÚ 5) God created the bondage of emotional attachment to Maya. Regards to all
  12. ~Satnaam Sri Waheguru~

  13. ~Satnaam Sri Waheguru ji.~

  14. yes,17 is too good. keep it up.

  15. Dear Friend, All my friends have stated that they felt the best.There is no standard rule/rehat. In exceptional circumstances if one is not able to follow the rehat one can seek HIS forgiveness and carry out the Nitnem. Anytime, as stated above by Jarnail singh Khalsa ji, is good for remembring HIM. Wjkk sri Wjkf
  16. jw kw kwrju soeI pru jwxY jy gur kY sbid smwhI ]3] (162-10, gauVI bYrwgix, mÚ 3) It is His work; those who are absorbed in the Word of the Guru's Shabad come to know it well. ||3|| qyrw sbdu qUMhY hih Awpy Brmu khwhI ] (162-10, gauVI bYrwgix, mÚ 3) The Shabad is Yours; You are Yourself. Where is there any doubt? ******************************************** Thanks brother for your crisp rely. In the post above the gurmukhi line does not suggest 'haume'. Kindly let me know as to how have you arrived at the meaning.It shall be very helpful. I have taken two lines again for your very kind considerartion. Regards.
  17. Bgiq krih mUrK Awpu jxwvih ] (159-1, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) The fools perform devotional worship by showing off; nic nic tpih bhuqu duKu pwvih ] (159-1, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) they dance and dance and jump all around, but they only suffer in terrible pain. nicAY tipAY Bgiq n hoie ] (159-2, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) By dancing and jumping, devotional worship is not performed. sbid mrY Bgiq pwey jnu soie ]3] (159-2, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) But one who dies in the Word of the Shabad, obtains devotional worship. ||3|| Bgiq vClu Bgiq krwey soie ] (159-2, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) The Lord is the Lover of His devotees; He inspires them to perform devotional worship. scI Bgiq ivchu Awpu Koie ] (159-3, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) True devotional worship consists of eliminating selfishness and conceit from within. myrw pRBu swcw sB ibiD jwxY ] (159-3, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) My True God knows all ways and means. nwnk bKsy nwmu pCwxY ]4]4]24] (159-3, gauVI guAwryrI, mÚ 3) O Nanak, He forgives those who recognize the Naam. ||4||4||24|| ******************************************** I shall be garteful if you could enlightedn about the colored/underlined lines. Regards
  18. Dear brother, I hope you have read the above post.The thread was initiated by me and I feel there is no need of this thread now. One may post if one likes. But my limited purpose is served. Regards to all.
  19. jyvfu BwvY qyvfu hoie ] (6-3, jpu, mÚ 1) He is as Great as He wishes to be. nwnk jwxY swcw soie ] (6-3, jpu, mÚ 1) O Nanak, the True Lord knows.
  20. You are very right.But looking at the life that is full of pressure these days ,it may not be possible to develop a feeling Of Detatchment.Man is also responsible for duties toward family and society. These duties cannot be effectively duscharged by a person of Bairagi awastha. One has to have some ego as well during this stage.Haume is sickening and is an impediment in achieving Goak.Even , shiv,vishnu and Brahma could not control Haume. But I do agree that Biarag is the state of mind . Bhul chuk Maufi
  21. ------ EAM gurmuiK kIE Akwrw ] (250-12, gauVI, mÚ 5) ONG: The One Universal Creator created the Creation through the Word of the Primal Guru. eykih sUiq provnhwrw ] (250-12, gauVI, mÚ 5) He strung it upon His one thread. iBMn iBMn qRY gux ibsQwrM ] (250-13, gauVI, mÚ 5) He created the diverse expanse of the three qualities. inrgun qy srgun idRstwrM ] (250-13, gauVI, mÚ 5) From formless, He appeared as form. sgl Bwiq kir krih aupwieE ] (250-13, gauVI, mÚ 5) The Creator has created the creation of all sorts. jnm mrn mn mohu bFwieE ] (250-14, gauVI, mÚ 5) The attachment of the mind has led to birth and death. duhU Bwiq qy Awip inrwrw ] (250-14, gauVI, mÚ 5) He Himself is above both, untouched and unaffected. nwnk AMqu n pwrwvwrw ]2] (250-14, gauVI, mÚ 5) O Nanak, He has no end or limitation. ||2||
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