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lyKw hoie q ilKIAY lyKY hoie ivxwsu ] (5-4, jpu, mÚ 1) If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it. eyhu AMqu n jwxY koie ] (5-9, jpu, mÚ 1) No one can know these limits. bhuqw khIAY bhuqw hoie ] (5-9, jpu, mÚ 1) The more you say about them, the more there still remains to be said. vfw swihbu aUcw Qwau ] (5-9, jpu, mÚ 1) Great is the Master, High is His Heavenly Home. aUcy aupir aUcw nwau ] (5-10, jpu, mÚ 1) Highest of the High, above all is His Name. eyvfu aUcw hovY koie ] (5-10, jpu, mÚ 1) Only one as Great and as High as God iqsu aUcy kau jwxY soie ] (5-10, jpu, mÚ 1) can know His Lofty and Exalted State. jy ko AwKY boluivgwVu ] (6-4, jpu, mÚ 1) If anyone presumes to describe God, qw ilKIAY isir gwvwrw gwvwru ]26] (6-4, jpu, mÚ 1) he shall be known as the greatest fool of fools! ||26||

nw hau nw mY nw hau hovw nwnk sbdu vIcwir ]1] (139-12, mwJ, mÚ 1) I was not, I am not, and I will never be anything at all! O Nanak, I dwell only on the Word of the Shabad. ||1|| *********************************************** May be guru ji is telling one of the methods of killing Haume. kindly explain if you have time. thx. nwnk gurmuiK haumY qutY qw hir hir nwmu iDAwvY ] (139-15, mwJ, mÚ 1) O Nanak, the egotism of the Gurmukhs is broken, and then, they meditate on the Name of the Lord, Har, Har. ******************************************** Another 'tuk' that indicates that haume is controlled by neditation on naam.

Bairaag is detatchment from the worldy things.It is a stage where one may not be considered normal. One will become introvert to the extent that it may be called as selfish, some may call that one has become haughty and arrogant. Othersmay think that he is not normal.One may attain this kind of state if one has spent entire youth in Gurbani and at 50/ 60+ he can be a Bairagi. But there are only a few these days. Keep your chanting and Simran on waheguru that's we can do. Waheguru ji.

I think you are right.

Kindly tell the methods of simran as per Granth sahib ji.Like sas gras and sas sas. Thanks

Cent percent. Veer jeo. Have you experienced any change by doing this.Answer this if you are convenient in answerig.It is my inquisitiveness. Though I am fully convinced about this. regards

Yes, it is Guru Prasad=HIS GRACE. Nanak dev ji's guru is LORD/GOD/Maharaaj ji. Guru ji is Brahmgyani.Brahmgyani aap parmeshwar. God is brahmgyani and vice versa. kindly tell some site from where I can doenload mp3 [64kbit recorded] Mool Mantra and simran 'waheguru' Thanks and regards

Which is that single action by the performance Of which the five vices can be eliminated and the senses can be controlled.?[kaam,krodh,lobh,Moh,Ahankaar] Regards

I was listening to katha yesterday by isher singh ji and it was stated that Bani is for the turia awastha or for the 4th pad. I do not know much abt. this. May be you know.

Dear friends , I am grateful to you all for your invaluable contribution.As the purpose of the thread is served and there is not anything more that is required to be known ,for me this thread may be considered as closed. You may post if you want some info. else the thread is closed. Regards.

Need I thank you loudly? :D

Which are the methods that guru sahibs have recommended for meditation.? Kindly explain in brief.

Thanks Friend for this sea of info. How about real player..site ..for free down load. regards.

Respected gupt ji, ~ssa~. Those who come here love God. It is a small family. What is not as per gurmat or otherwise ;who are we to decide.I had read only the last line of your post.The rest I shall do it tomorrow as you seem to be not in good mood. Forget it, We are all HIS creation and one day we shall not be here.Some may pput our photographs and after sometime those would be thrown away. So who we are ! Just nothinh. Why should one nothing try to find good or bad in another nothing or no one. no one ji. besoft

I have seen your signatures, it should be: Is tay hoye tay Always EXCELLENT! How can be anything be doubted if it is from HIM! Thanks for your suggestion.I shall keep in mind. Regards.

Kindly advise the site for Katha which can be listened in mp3 format. 2.Is there any method of downloading Real player free Of Cost? or anyway of playing real player files on mp3 player, slightly technical. Regards.

Thank you for clearing the doubt. 1.Would you also kindly help me by providing some links to the site of Kathas of SGGS ji.The voice format should be mp3.That is what I have installed. 2.What is .ram file. & .wma files. I have downloaded some voice files but these require some specific softwares. I do not want to have many softwares.I have mp3 and windows media players. Regards.

Thanks, but kindly tell the exact jugti/method for meditation etc. You may kindly give the reference of some katha. thanks

Thanks for guidance. The main teaching of Granth sahib is to be a Nice and humble human being and gives lot of importance to the Naam. This can be obtained by constant practice and abhyaaas. This is totally missing so far as I am concerned. It is also in gurbani that this abhyaas leads to cleaning of Haume from mind. It is also noted that we have to make a balance between the two. Kindly guide the jugti stated in the Granth sahib for jap/simran/meditation. I shall be very grateful.

I spend quite a time in understanding Gurbani.A question that often comes to my mind and that sangat should answer is as follows: 1.Is it better to spend time in understanding bani or to do simran/meditation .? Also kindly explain the methods like saas saas .sas gras and other jugat stated in the Granth sahib ji. Regard

This thread is an interesting feature that it contains 'Ant kaal'. It should be translated as dying moments. At what poit Of time should one consider that the ant kaal has begun for a person who is almost dying. Most people that I have seen dying are not conscious at all. They just do not open eyes.it seems as if their mind is doing something and the body is almost motionless except the broken Swaas show that there is life.I doubt that any person [ordinary] , at that point of time, would be thinking about anything. Is there anything specific at the moments of Death stated in death. Kindly enlighten. Although everything is in simran as my friend has told.

Hi Student Firend, Good to see your posts as usual.Whenever I read your posts I feel that you are hundred persent right and that we should spend the entire day or to the extent that we can in mditation /simran.I do not know which one is better.Even chanting would be another option. There are one or two doubts that come to mind.We have to do paath as per the rehat. Should we do simran even during that time as well? I think rehat has its own significance. I have a site from which i have started listenng Katha.It also takes some time daily.Is it better to do meditation or to listen to Katha and spend some time ? What is your advice? WE are not talking as per the thread. Regards.

Yes, You do you think so? But can we do something now or let it go? Can the name of the thread be changed? What is the procedure ,pl tell if you know.

gur prswdI pwieAw ][/size]By Guru's Grace, I have found God. iqQY mwieAw mohu cukwieAw ]By His Grace, I have shed emotional attachment to Maya. ikrpw kir kY AwpxI Awpy ley smwie jIau ]21] Showering His Mercy, He has blended me into Himself. ||21|| gopI nY goAwlIAw ] [/color]You are the Gopis, the milk-maids of Krishna; You are the sacred river Jamunaa; You are Krishna, the herdsman. quDu Awpy goie auTwlIAw ] You Yourself support the world. *************************************************************** Thanks brother for taking time out and explaining the meaning of soohi etc. Regarding as to how to recognise sangat, I have read the sabad. I have some observations to make. What is the translator trying to say in the line that is colored.? To me neither the translation is correct nor is there any need of adding anything beyond that the line states. What is your take.? The line contains superfluous meanings. It also seems to be saying something more as the line does not appear to be cogentlly placed in the overall context of the Sabad. Please have a look at the full Sabad. Regards.