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fateh veerji You simply burn the hair as its the best way to get rid of them

Fateh bhenji. My mum can make bana's, kachera's etc. If your from Birmingham UK let me know.

fateh ji. If someone can post these two - jisda sahib dada hovai - thahee bhoo na lagey

I've never heard of him either....and I haven't read all of this thread......but it seems like people had high expectations of him but then he went the other way. So whats happened - now everyone is hurt..

Just to balance the family stories out.....my family is the complete opposite. Everyone was amritdhari. It was uncommon to find anyone who had not taken Amrit and most of the children had taken Amrit too. This is all from what my nana ji told me. He would have been in his 90's or 100's. He was from Pakistan Punjab (dunno if this makes a difference) but anyways he knew about the Guru's etc when he was young. His family used to tell Sakhi's at bedtime. And no girl was married into the family unless they had taken Amrit. But I also remember him sayin there was a lot more integration back in the days. People were happier to visit Hindu Mandirs, Muslims were happy to come Gurdwara etc. He was quite hurt by the fact that the youth of today were hating pakistan when Pakistan as he said was India anyway.... Back in the day it wasn't like tht....everyone just got along and enjoyed the experience...but anyways i agree with S1ngh the impression i got was that people were more religious then and there were more amritdharis....I do believe there ha been a decline esp if you look at the youth of Punjab today.

I want to know that too. I am working so I might only be able to come and join the sangat for evening kirtan. Would I be allowed to come only for an evening?

In all honesty I wouldn't bother saying your daughters do this.....it will just cause rift and you know how one little thing can sour everything. Ignore that bit and just say uncle ji I am much better now and so I am going home and add in a little bit about how ure mum wants you and how thankful you are for his company. Then just leave.....go home and rather than looking for role models become the best you can. Look inside.

aww saint-soldier thats cool to know. I will adopt you as my brother so when anyone tells me off they gots to go through the saint soldier first. Damn how cool does tht sound. lol. Anyways I have something serious to add to the topic. Firstly I don't think its nice to say personal things to the I sold out boy. But yes in response to the wedding pic comment your not supposed to be all over each other as doing so is considered a lack of respect since it places all the guests and little children in an awkward position. Its like how everyone will be disgusted and think u have no respect if you kissed in front of Shiri Guru Granth Sahib Ji on your wedding day. Its basically the same analogy. Also recently I was thinking about this marriage stuff. Basically one of my friends called me today and she told me how I have to find someone at university or I will not find anyone. I was abit like erm ok. I mean in my life I have always sat on the fence about love and arranged marriage. Some things I was certain about such as no I do not want to marry anyone. But other things were unclear to me. Of course everyone wants to marry for love but is dating or arranged marriage the way to find love. Everyone who dates will tell you that its not love at first sight which is why you have so many dates. I thought about this very carefully. Say if I were to date I would not date anyone. I would narrow the person down by academic qualification, level of sikhi, appearance, job and career prospects. Now its not only me but everyone else will look for people based on a criteria. I've watched a few of my friends who are older than me and they have the same approach. Now the thing is I noticed what a lot of people do. They go to random birthday events, random group meals to meet other people. Its like networking to find people that might be potential for marriage. If I am to be honest this is no different from what my parents would do on my behalf because all parents have a list of criteria. If anything they would save me time and save me the headache from broken hearts. Additionally they get to know the family aswell. Now here is one thing I got to be a part of and it really changed my understanding of arranged marriages: Basically one of my closest friends is an actuary and she earns at least 60k and she recently had an arranged marriage. For me it was interesting to see how this worked. Basically I realised I had this misconception that an arranged marriage is a forced marriage. I blame the media for this and all those stupid honour killing stories I hear. Actually its nothing like that. Its more like an assisted match making process. Her family introduced the guy and they chatted for a year. When they were ready they set an engagement date and then a wedding date. The whole process must have taken 3-4yrs...It was actually quite cool because her parents had introduced her to a lot of other guys..one of the guys was a dentist but she said no to him...so it wasn't even like you had to say yes. Everything was in her control but her parents played the crucial role in finding suitable matches. Its clear to conclude that arranged marriages makes it easier. Also everything is in the open it makes u feel so much better. I remember her saying that bit me. Other things she said to me were how u know ure not gonna meet anyone messing about. Btw incase anyone is wonderin - she is not hardcore sikh. She actually cuts her hair and eats meat. Today when my other friend started telling me her problems and how I have to find someone too. I instead found that I had a huge dawning of wisdom. I realised how arranged marriage is based on one huge thing: how well have ure parents networked and do they have the same criteria as you? If your parents do not have the same criteria as you then ure gonna have problems so you need to have a chat about that. Then how well are they networked? If they are not so well networked then in many cases its easier for the child to build the connections through university, work place, other friends etc. All in all I realised that the end result of arranged marriage and so called 'love' marriage was exactly the same but it was simply initiated differently. Interestingly what works for one person might not be the best option for another. My friend was very lucky. Her family is well known amongst the rich sikh circles so for her finding a partner who earned the same amount of money and was sikh was not a problem because her parents knew people. From talking to her and knowing my own parents - I would definately go for an arranged marriage because I have to do less work and I know my parents have the same criteria as me. But if your parents don't know that many people with the correct criteria then its inevitable but you will have to do the finding yourself. It best however to chat to them about this so they are in the know....just like they would keep you in the know if they were finding matches. All in all I do not feel there is a wrong or a correct method. All I can say is that there are more dangers in doing it on ure own. However if your wise then doing it alone shouldn't get you into too many deep waters. Also I haven't read all this thread but by the looks of things we are not reaching an answer. I think its fair to say its because the answer depends on your family and how well they are connected as this dictates the approach you will find yourself taking.

I have no idea who these ppl are but I think thats what is wrong with us. We look for role models but we fail to see that we as individuals are the role models. By this I mean: I don't need anyone to inspire me. We should stop looking outside and instead we should look inside. I am my own inspiration and I think everyone should do the same.

mai pare ta ha se....as Matheen says by asian they mean oriental asians. And tht obese thing made me laugh...punjabi ppl are slightly on the fat side of things. lol I am joking incase anyone gets upset! Plus soya contains estrogen and they know it reduces sperm count....but they don't know the mixture of factors like age, ethinicity which affect the overall fertility problem....but you see its deffo certain tht soya contains more oestrogen.... I guess the positive outlook on things is that the extra oetrogen hormone boost helps men not to be hairy...actually that might explain why chineese men don't have much hair. lol.

The easiest thing to do is to call the gurdwara ji. Search for their phone number in google.

Soya and tofu lovers should read this cos they ruin male fertility. Paneer all the way. YAY :D http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...eandHealth/home

I'm sorry ji. I read about 3 pages and came across this: It made me laugh. Also the context in relation to a facebook group for me is out of proportion but the serious comments like yours are respectable for making it a proper meaningful discussion.

On the poll it seems like Medics are in the lead :D

The last time I wrote I found a thread hilarious I got told off. Anyways I am glad to know saint-soldier has found comedy value too...

I use coconut oil for my hair.... Anyways for my body I use johnsons baby oil - does it really give white hair....you see sometimes when I am lazy I am not bothered to heat the coconut oil so I use Johnsons instead so I would like to know... Also another thing I was talking about this to my friend. Basically we both use oil. She uses oil before she showers. So she keeps it in her hair for an hour beforehand and then washes it out. I however use it after I have showered so I do not wash it out. Whats the right way?

Oh go on do the honors! :lol: What about Sikhsangat veggie BBQ! :gg: I don't mind planning it. I would even make a poster for it and advertise it properly but I cannot do it on my own. I need a team. We will need to set up on the day, someone to pick people up, someone to organise the food stuff, someone to take care of the fun and games side of things. And then where do we hold it? What day? What time? I wish I was in California, we don't have any beaches in the UK unless we go to Cornwall but then thats gonna be expensive....where are we gonna get the money from

If you want to get rid of the group then send Matt an email or send a message to the Creator of the facebook group. Make the message polite or alternatively direct them to this sikhsangat thread (by the way this thread is hilarious!). All I can say is that I am glad I do not belong to any Jatha because its evident that own jatha pride gets in the way and makes such a simple thing very messy!! Also another thing: facebook is a social network. Its not accurate and most things are light hearted jokes. I honestly would have not taken offence at that group....there's so many groups on there that could cause offence but people just treat it like innocent fun....like the punjabis are better than guju's group....the jatt group...the tarkans are the best group...or the drs are better than dentist group or the I am from America so I am better than you.....or the perisans are the superior race...I am sure all of these groups would offend someone but we can see the lightheartedness.... Oh if you haven't found it then join the sikhsangat group. They only have 30 members. I am sure we can make it go into its thousands! http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=24315450543

i would love to go to one of these things. Maybe someone should organise a pinic for the Uk sikhsangat....who wants to plan it?

Basically you have to adjust it to your parent's personality. I am suprised they have never mentionned any rista stuff to you; I thought every asian got teased about rista and marriage. lol. Anyhooo I would do it like this 'so wat age did u get married?'.....then he/she says the age Then you say 'yea thats around my age *pause and do ure thinking face*...then say 'hmmmm if you got married around my age then do you think its about time I got married'......and wait. Personally I would do it with both of them in the room but if thats scary then target them one by one. I would go for the mum first because mums understand subtle hints more. However it all depends on how your household is. Let me know how the above line works out. Hopefully it should work but if it doesn't then I have backup plan B.