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  1. (07/04/09) ਸਿੱਖ ਮਿਸ਼ਨ ਇੰਟਰਨੈਸ਼ਨਲ ਆਰ. ਐਸ. ਐਸ. ਨੇ ਸਿੱਖ ਧਰਮ ਦੇ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਦਰਜਨਾਂ ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟ ਬਣਾਏ: ਸਿੱਖ ਮਿਸ਼ਨ ਇੰਟਰਨੈਸ਼ਨਲ ਬਾਰਸੀਲੋਨਾ, ਸਪੇਨ (ਪਤਰ ਪ੍ਰੇਰਕ) – ਸਿੱਖ ਮਿਸ਼ਨ ਇੰਟਰਨੈਸ਼ਨਲ ਨੇ ਇੱਕ ਪ੍ਰੈਸ ਰਲੀਜ਼ ਵਿੱਚ ਕਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਮੂਲਵਾਦੀ ਸੰਸਥਾ ਆਰ. ਐਸ. ਐਸ. (ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸੋਇਮ ਸੇਵਕ ਸੰਘ) ਵੱਲੋਂ ਸਿੱਖ ਧਰਮ ਤੇ ਇਸ ਦੇ ਇਤਿਹਾਸ ਨੂੰ ਵਿਗਾੜਣ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਖੜੀ ਕੀਤੀ ਜਮਾਤ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਨੇ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਗਲਤ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਕਰਨ ਤੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਲਝਾਉਣ ਵਾਸਤੇ ਹੁਣ ਇੰਟਰਨੈੱਟ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੋਇਆ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਸਬੰਧ ਵਿੱਚ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਕਈ ਵੈਬਸਾਈਟ ਬਣਾਏ ਗਏ ਹਨ। ਸਭ ਤੋਂ ਪਹਿਲਾਂ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ "ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆਸਿੱਖਸੰਗਤ ਡਾਟ ਕਮ" ਬਣਾਇਆ ਸੀ ਪਰ ਇਹ ਸੋਚ ਕੇ ਕਿ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਤਾਂ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਸ਼ਰੇਆਮ ਪਤਾ ਲਗ ਜਾਵੇਗਾ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ "ਸਿੱਖਸੰਗਤ ਡਾਟ ਕਮ" ਤੇ "ਸਿੱਖਸੰਗਤ ਡਾਟ ਨੈੱਟ" ਬਣਾ ਲਏ। ਇਹ ਨਾਂ ਵੀ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਨਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਮਿਲਦੇ ਸਨ, ਇਸ ਕਰ ਕੇ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨੇ ਕਈ ਵਖ ਵਖ ਨਾਂਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਵੈੱਬ ਸਾਈਟ ਬਣਾ ਲਏ ਜਿਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਮੁਖ ਇਹ ਹਨ www..sikhsangat.com, www..sikhsangat.org, www.forums.panthic.net, www.panthic.org, www.guppshupp.com, www.sangatsansar.com, www.rajkaregakhalsa.net, www.buysignsup.com www.mumbaionline.org, www.silobreaker.com, www.popularsikh.com, www.videosandblogs.com, www.kosmix.com ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵੈੱਬ ਸਾਈਟਾਂ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਸਿੱਖ ਸਿਧਾਂਤਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਲਝਾਇਆ ਤਾਂ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਪਰ ਨਾਲ ਹੀ ਸਹੀ ਸਿੱਖ ਵਿਦਵਾਨਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਤੱਤ ਜਾਂ ਨਿਰੋਲ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਦੀ ਗੱਲ ਕਰਨ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਦੇ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਧੂੰਆਂ-ਧਾਰ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਵੀ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਬੀਤੇ ਇੱਕ ਸਾਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵੈੱਬ ਸਾਈਟਾਂ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਵਿਰੋਧੀਆਂ, ਸਪੋਕਸਮੈਨ ਅਖ਼ਬਾਰ, ਪ੍ਰੋ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਰਾਗੀ, ਤਿੰਨ ਪ੍ਰਚਾਰਕਾਂ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਇੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਘੱਗਾ, ਗਿਆਨੀ ਜਗਤਾਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਜਾਚਕ ਤੇ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਗੁਰਬਖ਼ਸ਼ ਸਿੰਘ ਗੁਲਸ਼ਨ, ਨਾਮਵਰ ਸਿੱਖ ਇਤਿਹਾਸਕਾਰ ਡਾ: ਹਰਜਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਦਿਲਗੀਰ, ਪ੍ਰੋ ਗੁਰਤੇਜ ਸਿੰਘ ਵਿਰੁਧ ਘਟ ਤੋਂ ਘਟ ਤੀਹ ਚਾਲ੍ਹੀ ਪ੍ਰੈਸ ਰਲੀਜ਼ ਤੇ ਹੋਰ ਗੁਮਰਾਹਕੁਨ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਦੂਜੇ ਪਾਸੇ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ, ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ, ਚੌਪਈ ਦੇ ਪਾਠ, ਬਚਿਤਰ ਨਾਟਕ ਵਗੈਰਾ ਦੇ ਹੱਕ ਵਿੱਚ ਰੱਜ ਕੇ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ। ਇਕ ਦਿਲਚਸਪ ਗੱਲ ਇਹ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਸਾਰਿਆਂ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਹੀ ਖ਼ਬਰ/ਸਮਗੱਰੀ, ਇਕੋ ਫ਼ੌਂਟ ਤੇ ਇਕੋ ਡਿਜ਼ਾਈਨ ਵਿੱਚ ਲਗੀ ਹੁੰਦੀ ਹੈ। ਇਸ ਤੋਂ ਸਾਫ਼ ਪਤਾ ਲਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਇਹ ਸਭ ਇੱਕ ਥਾਂ `ਤੇ ਹੀ ਤਿਆਰ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਬੀਤੇ ਦਿਨ ਯਾਹੂ ਡਿਸਕਸ਼ਨ ਗਰੁਪਾਂ "ਸਿੱਖ-ਨਿਊਜ਼-ਡਿਸਕਸ਼ਨ" ਅਤੇ "ਆਈ ਐਚ ਆਰ ਓ" ਵਿੱਚ ਡਾਕਟਰ ਗੁਰਦੇਵ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਿੱਧੂ ਦੀ ਛਪੀ ਇੱਕ ਚਿੱਠੀ ਵਿੱਚ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੇ ਉਪਰਲੇ ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟਾਂ ਦੇ ਨਾਂਵਾਂ ਦਾ ਪਰਦਾ ਫ਼ਾਸ਼ ਕੀਤਾ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਕਿਹਾ ਹੈ ਕਿ ਭਵਿੱਖ ਵਿੱਚ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਹੋਰ ਨਾਵਾਂ ਦੇ ਵੈੱਬ ਸਾਈਟ ਬਣਾ ਕੇ ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਉਲਝਾਉਣ ਤੇ ਮੂਰਖ ਬਣਾਉਣ ਦੀ ਕੋਸ਼ਿਸ਼ ਕਰੇਗੀ। ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਬਚ ਕੇ ਰਹਿਣ ਦੀ ਲੋੜ ਹੈ। ਪ੍ਰੈੱਸ ਰਲੀਜ਼ ਵਿੱਚ ਇਹ ਵੀ ਕਿਹਾ ਕਿ www.burningpanjab.com, ਜਿਹੜਾ ਕਿ ਸੁਖਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਓਸਾਹਨ ਨੇ ਸ਼ੁਰੂ ਕੀਤਾ ਸੀ ਤੇ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਰੋਲ ਪੰਥਕ ਸੀ, ਤੇ ਵੀ ਰਾਸ਼ਟਰੀਆ ਸਿੱਖ ਸੰਗਤ ਦੇ ਹਿਮਾਇਤੀ ਗਰੁਪ ਦਾ ਕਬਜ਼ਾ ਹੋ ਚੁਕਾ ਹੈ। ਹੋਰ ਤਾਂ ਹੋਰ www.tapoban.org, ਜਿਹੜਾ ਭਗਵੰਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਦਿਲਾਵਰੀ ਦਾ ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟ ਹੈ, ਵਿੱਚ ਵੀ ਕੋਈ ਵਿਅਕਤੀ ਬੈਠਾ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਇਸ ਧੜੇ ਦੀਆਂ ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ ਲਾਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਪਿੱਛੇ ਜਿਹੇ ਇਸ ਨੇ ਕਾਲਾ ਅਫ਼ਗਾਨਾ ਤੇ ਡਾਕਟਰ ਦਿਲਗੀਰ ਦੇ ਖ਼ਿਲਾਫ਼ ਘਟੀਆ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਵਾਲੀਆਂ ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ ਲਾਈਆਂ ਸਨ। ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਤਾਂ ਸਿੱਖ ਵਿਚਾਰ ਮੰਚ ਦਾ ਬਲਬੀਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੂਚ ਵੀ ਆਪਣੇ ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟ www.sikhvicharmanch.com ਰਾਹੀਂ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਕੁੱਝ ਸਿੱਖ ਵਿਦਵਾਨਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਆਪਣੀ ਨਿਜੀ ਕਿੜ ਕਾਰਨ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਹੱਕ ਦੀ ਸਮੱਗਰੀ ਦੇਣ ਤੋਂ ਸੰਕੋਚ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰਦਾ। ਯਾਹੂ ਡਿਸਕਸ਼ਨ ਗਰੁਪਾਂ "ਆਈਐਚਆਰਓ" ਜਿਹੜਾ ਕਿ ਲੁਧਿਆਣਾ ਦੇ ਡੀ. ਐਸ. ਗਿੱਲ ਵਕੀਲ ਦਾ ਹੈ ਉਹ ਵੀ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਦੇ ਸਵਾਲ `ਤੇ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਨਾਲ ਪੂਰਾ ਮਿਲਵਰਤਣ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ ਤੇ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਤਾਂ ਉਹ ਅਜਿਹਾ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਕਰਦਾ ਹੈ ਕਿਉਹ ਮਨੁੱਖੀ ਹੱਕਾਂ ਦਾ ਨਾ ਹੋ ਕੇ ਦਸਮ ਗ੍ਰੰਥੀਆਂ ਦਾ ਸਾਈਟ ਨਜ਼ਰ ਆਉਂਦਾ ਹੈ। ਸਿੱਖਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਜਿਹੇ ਵੈੱਸਾਈਟਾਂ ਤੋਂ ਖ਼ਬਰਦਾਰ ਰਹਿਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ਹੈ। ਇਹ ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟ ਦਿਖਾਵੇ ਵਜੋਂ ਕੁੱਝ ਕੁੱਝ ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ ਪੰਥਕ ਵੀ ਦੇ ਦੇਂਦੇ ਹਨ ਤਾਂ ਜੋ ਇਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੇ ਪੰਥਕ ਹੋਣ ਦਾ ਭੁਲੇਖਾ ਪਵੇ ਪਰ ਅਸਲ ਵਿੱਚ ਇੱਕ ਦੋ ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ ਏਨੀਆਂ ਪਰਚਾਰੀਆਂ ਹੁੰਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ ਜਿਹੜੀਆਂ ਕਿ ਸਾਜ਼ਸ਼ੀ ਪਰਚਾਰ ਹੁੰਦੀਆਂ ਹਨ। none of the mentioned websites claim to be perfect but this is the sort of rubbish being peddled as "Sikh Missionary Parchaar". they call us "RSS" and they call Sangat "Moorakhs". On same website multimedia & articles are provided of Inder Ghagga, Jagtar Jachak, Gurbaksh Kala Afghana, and other such Malesh. these people idolise Prof Darshan Chand, Harjinder Dilgeer and such morons. Like Dictators these people do koor parchar saying Raagmala is not Bani, Bhattaan Di Bani is not Bani, Bhagat Bani is not Bani, Chaupai Sahib is not Bani, Jaap Sahib is not Bani, Akal Ustat is not Bani, indeed entire Sri Dasam Granth Sahib is not Bani then next they have their sights on Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj. these people are not amritdhari nor believe in concept of Khalsa Panth nor believe in Guru Gobind Singh. what do you call a person who does not know who his father is? there are people who hope by calling people "RSS" and by using our own emotions over "Satkaar for Guru Granth Sahib" they can use this as a tool to get people to accept a mindset that we can each pick & choose what to accept as Bani like a child at a Candy Store. they hope the people who run these websites by being labelled "RSS" will move in their direction. Sangat Ji please be very wary as there are a lot of people who have been influenced by this ideology, and thinking.
  2. anyone else feel like they're being given the run around?
  3. anyone got any real responses? if people visiting this topic contact public bodies directly and indirectly it may annoy them enough to actually do something for a change
  4. --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Gurdev Singh Sidhu <gurdevsinghsidhu@yahoo.com> wrote: From: Gurdev Singh Sidhu <gurdevsinghsidhu@yahoo.com> Subject: [sikh_news_discussion] RSS net work and its collaborators To: sikh_news_discussion@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 11:53 AM The RSS websites 1. The Rashtria Sikh Sangat has started several anti-Sikh websites to propagate agaisnt the Sikhs. Its first website was rashtriasikhsangat.com but later it realised that the Sikhs will know the reality of this RSS conspiraciy. So they have started several different websites. All these have almost the SAME material. 2. If you find any Sikh criticized in these websites, then this is clear that such a Sikh is dangerous for the fanatic Hindu RSS and its stooges. If these websites promote a Sikh that Sikh could be their collaborator. 3. The follwing are the RSS websites (they may add new one): www..sikhsangat.com www..sikhsangat.org www.forums.panthic.net www.panthic.org www.guppshupp.com www.sangatsansar.com www.rajkaregakhalsa.net www.buysignsup.com They have also captured the following: www.burningpanjab.com The following are their collaborators: www.sikhvicharmanch.com www.tapban.org Beware of anti-Sikh propaganda. Gurdev Singh anyone know why people keep posting this stuff? and how come www.rajkaregakhalsa.net is in BOLD lol Gurmukho conspiracy is written with only one "i"
  5. http://www.neverforgetbow09.blogspot.com/ Introduction Whenever we go to the Gurdwara and stand in the Ardaas, at the end of the Ardaas we recite the following words... “Guru Granth Jee Maaneo, Pargat Guraa Ki Deh| Realise that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the embodiment of all the Gurus. Jo Prabh Ko Milbo Chahe, Khoj Shabad Meh Leh| Those who seek union with God should search through the divine wisdom of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji.” These words contain the essence of Sikhi. To a non-Sikh Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji may seem just a book, a piece of well constructed literature from the 15th century; but Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is much more than that. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the living, talking, eternal Guru Sahib Ji, the Guru who is beyond time and death, the Guru who embodies that divine light which passed from Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji all the way to Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the Guru to whom even the Tenth Master Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji bowed Their head, and the Guru who has lead the Khalsa Panth for the last 300 years. The Tragedy It is with a heavy heart that we must relate the events at Gurdwara Sikh Sangat, Harley Grove in Bow (East London) to the wider Sangat. On the afternoon of Monday the 16th of March 2009 there was a women’s congregation going on at Gurdwara Sikh Sangat; one of the women from the Sangat noticed an intruder enter the Gurdwara Sahib from a side door. After this a fire broke out in the Sachkhand room (where Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj is seated whilst at rest) of Gurdwara Sikh Sangat which ended up engulfing the whole building. Over 10 fire engines and 50 firefighters battled for over 6 hours to bring the fire under control. The firefighters confirmed that the fire destroyed over 75% of the Gurdwara Sahib complex, with the roof of the whole Gurdwara Sahib completely caving in, leaving only the outer walls standing. The Sachkhand room where the fire began was completely and utterly destroyed by the fire. The most painful news for the whole Panth is that 11 blessed Saroops of our beloved Satguru, the light of the Ten Guru Sahibaans, the Jugo-Jug Atal Eternal Satguru, Sahib Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji were burnt due to the fire. 8 Saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji were recovered on Tuesday the 17th; the police discovered 3 more Saroops and many more Gutkaa and Pothee Sahibs on Friday the 20th. With heavy hearts Sevadars from across the country gathered together at Gurdwara Mata Sahib Kaur Academy and worked day and night on the daunting Seva of preparing Satguru Ji’s saroops for the Sanskaar (cremation) ceremony. It brought tears to the eyes of all the Sevadars and anyone who had Darshan of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s Saroops; to see how the Angs (limbs) of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mahaaraaj were crumpled, burnt and blackened because of the fire, and dripping wet and ice cold due to the water damage. Take a moment Saadh Sangat Ji, think in your hearts, our beloved Satguru Ji’s Saroops were burnt in fire and doused in water – do we feel no pain? Under the guidance of Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib an Akhand Paath Sahib was carried out at Gurdwara Mata Sahib Kaur Academy and the Sanskaar Seva took place at Guru Gobind Singh Khalsa College Chigwell. Sangat from across the country came to pay their respects and witness their beloved Satguru Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s Sanskaar ceremony being carried out, yet sadly out of 500,000 Sikhs that live across the UK, only 1,000 – 2,000 people gathered for the Sanskaar ceremony of Guru Sahib Ji. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s blessed remains will be taken to Panjab where the scattering of the blessed remains of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji will be carried out by Sevadars approved by Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib. Who is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? It was only a few months ago that we celebrated the 300th anniversary of the Gurta Gur-Gaddee Divas (Guru-ship ceremony) of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, last year we also remembered the 30th anniversary of the massacre in Amritsar by the fake Nirankaris of 13 innocent Singhs, and this year we are commemorating 25 years since Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib was attacked by the Indian Army in Operation Blue Star. Yet time and time again we fail to realize that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the Eternal Embodiment of all Ten Gurus Sahibaans. It is no use to simply chant the words of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaaj proclaiming that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is and forever will be, ‘Pargat Guraa Kee Deh’ – ‘The Divine Embodiment of all Ten Guru Sahibaans’. It is time to bring those words uttered by the 10th Master 300 years ago into action in our Gurdwaras, communities and everyday lives. It is only 300 years since Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji commanded all Sikhs to accept Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as the Eternally Living Embodiment of all Ten Guru Sahibaans, it is only 30 years since 13 blessed Singhs laid their lives defending the respect of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, and it is only 25 years since Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji endured the bullets of the Indian Army all for our sake... Yet we forget their sacrifices every moment of every day! Saadh Sangat Ji we must remember that it is the first time in history that such a devastating attack has been carried out on a Gurdwara Sahib outside of India. An attack on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is an attack on the very foundations of Sikhi, it is an attack on the whole Sikh Panth; an attack on the Gurus house is an attack on our house. The fateful day of March 16th 2009 should be remembered by all Sikhs, and by the world, as the day when Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj sacrificed Themselves in order to wake up the Sikh Panth. We must believe and accept that Sri Guru Granth Sahib are the ‘Jaagdee Jot’ – ‘The Forever Awakened Eternal Light’ of all Ten Guru Sahibaans. An attack on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is an attack on the beauteous wisdom of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, it’s an attack on the never-ending humility of Sri Guru Amardaas Ji, and it’s an attack on the Tenth Master Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji who sacrificed his four sons for the Khalsa Panth. Just as Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji sacrificed their physical form by burning in boiling cauldrons, standing on the burning hot plates of the prisons of Lahore whilst red hot sand run down their divine body and eventually passing into the icy cold waters of the river Ravi; just as Sri Guru Teghbahadur Sahib Ji marched to Delhi in order to sacrifice their physical form to protect righteousness and truth, just as Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji sacrificed their entire family for the cause of justice, in the same way Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj has sacrificed themselves 11 times in order to awaken the Sikh Panth from its slumber which has lasted many years. ALL Ten Guru Sahibaans have sacrificed themselves through smoldering fire and icy cold water 11 times in order to awaken us – if we refuse to awaken now how can we call ourselves Sikhs of the Guru? What to do now? Our beloved Satguru, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has given Shaheedi (martyrdom) 11 times... Important questions remain unanswered Saadh Sangat Ji... Where do we go from here Saadh Sangat Ji? Do we fall back into a state of unawareness and carry on letting Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s respect and authority be questioned and undermined again and again? Are we going to wake up? Or will we simply ignore the fact that ALL ten Guru Sahibaans have sacrificed themselves through smoldering fire and icy cold water 11 times in order to awaken us? If there is one lesson we learn from looking at Sikh history it is that sacrifice is always followed by revolution; the martyrdom of Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji was followed by the establishment of Sri Akaal Takhat Sahib by Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji and the sacrifice by Sri Guru Teghbahadur Sahib Ji was followed by the establishment of the Khalsa brotherhood in order to tackle injustice by Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji. We must contemplate that if Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji has sacrificed themselves 11 times there must be a reason; it must be a wakeup call to the Sikh nation to make us realize our mistakes. As stated many times before we need to accept and believe that Sri Guru Granth Sahib is our Eternal Living Guru. Treating Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji with complete love and utmost reverence has been part of the Sikh religion since the 5th Master Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji first compiled Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in 1604. From the day the compilation of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji was complete Sri Guru Arjan Sahib never sat on their throne or slept on their bed again, rather they gave up these comforts and instead enthroned Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji upon their Throne and Bed; for the rest of their life Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji sat upon the ground and slept upon a single white sheet. We should learn from the example and Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji and we should endeavor to stop Beadbi (disrespect) of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and divine Gurbani wherever it is taking place, whether in our Gurdwaras, homes or in our libraries. We must forever remember the immortal words of the 7th Master Sri Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji, “Jin Bhae Adab Naa Baanee Dharaa | Jaanoh(u) So Sikh Nahee(n) Hamaaraa | He who has no fear or respect of Gurbani. Know that he is not my Sikh.” This means going into our local Gurdwaras ensuring that the respect and sanctity of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is maintained on a day to day basis. Is Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji accompanied by at least 5 Singhs when going from one location to the next? Is the Sachkhand room of Sri Guru Granth Sahib big enough to accommodate all of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji’s Saroops? The fact of simply how long it is taking for the Police to deal with the case of the fire and also the fact that the fire is being treated as a simple case of criminal damage to property is a testament in itself to how we have failed to make the world aware that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not a book, or a piece of sacred literature, rather Sri Guru Granth Sahib is our beloved Living Guru. We must keep pressure upon the Police to resolve this issue as quickly as possible, we have to stress that this matter will not be allowed to be ignored or brushed under the carpet. We need to make it as clear as day to the world that any attack on Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji will never be tolerated at any cost by the Sikh Panth in order to help prevent such vicious and hateful attacks in the future. We will not let the perpetrator of this evil act to get away. Guru Sahib is urging us to cast off the divisions of Jathebandi, caste and discrimination and to unite as One Panth. We must all unite to fight any forms of corruption which have crept into our Guru’s house, and we must all endeavor to increase our individual Rehat and our love for Guru Sahib Ji’s Baani. We should do this by joining in the 1 million Chaupai Sahib Jaap (www.chaupaisahib.org) and pray for the Chardi Kala of the Panth. We must all take the pain of this episode in our history into our hearts, into the very core of our being as a Panth. We must all give up drugs, castes, and material attachment to the world and join together as brothers and sisters in the Khalsa. We must not be scared to wear the beloved uniform of Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji which is drenched in the blood of countless Shaheed Singhs, read the Baani which once flowed from the divine tongue of Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji and take pride that our father is Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji and our mother is Mata Sahib Kaur Ji. Each of us must promise ourselves that we will not rest till the perpetrators of this heinous crime are brought to justice, in the divine words of Satguru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji... “Kookar Koorr(u) Kamaaeeai Gur Nindaa Pachai Pachaan(u) || Those who practice falsehood are dogs; those who slander the Guru shall burn in their own fire.” Ang 21 SGGSJ
  6. Ultimately it is up to any Government to take responsibility and safeguard its citizens. if Sikhs do not feel that GuruGhar are safe then whatever happens as a result will be the State's fault not ours.
  7. Agree with AK-47 no Gang gets involved in a Gurdwara unless specifically paid to as its not worth the risk. Especially a non-Sikh gang and the fact that the person knew where Sachkhand is to target means they may have had information or had visited before. fact is 11 Saroops of Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj have had sanskar and an entire GuruGhar gutted. very few public figures or public bodies have spoken out against this intolerable act. very few media have covered this. nobody has been arrested and the police have done nothing. if this was a mosque it would be a different story and yet that has hardly anything sacred inside. this is a recipe for creating a lot of Anger and people's blood will boil unless the Police do something. i'm sure if a Sikh Gurudwara can catch fire and nothing happens then a lot of other high profile public buildings in London are just as flammable and the Government should sit quietly by.
  8. Nitnem (inc. Chaupai Sahib) is on BritAsia tv every morning - on behalf of the volunteers feel free to include the regular viewers. also have requested that to support the 1million project they additionally begin a Chaupai Sahib Jaap 30min programme. they may be a little shy about this so feel free to contact charanpreet.singh@britasia.tv and the other britasia staff with words of encouragement. keep up the good work :nishaan_sahib_right:
  9. Excellent !! As this is a Very positive idea, we should have this as a sticky and get sangataan worldwide to pledge to do as many Chaupai Sahibs as possible and dont forget to let the website know how many have been completed. :nishaan_sahib_right:
  10. At www.rajkaregakhalsa.net we have received a constant stream of emails recently from Sangataan asking the same question: How do i add RKK mp4 videos to the Blackberry, iPhone, iPod, etc? so we've put up a simple tutorial which we hope will help
  11. WaheGuru Jee Ka Khalsa WaheGuru Ji Ki Fateh hope you dont have an itchy trigger finger just messin - most belkom jee, most belkom !!
  12. i am guilty of the above so i better own up.. i told paji i'd put a review on Amazon and its been a month or two bhull chuk maaf karni.. thanks for waking me up from my sleep - i've done it now! Sangat Ji please not only BUY this book, but also put a review on Amazon so that others too can learn more about it and get lahaa. Click Here to visit Amazon and get this beautifully written book to read Keep up the good work
  13. Source: http://www.sikhsangat.org/news/publish/soc...ed_Handed.shtml
  14. we'll have to agree to disagree, as stated at the outset i didnt want a debate. topic was meant to be about discussing the use of Islamic names for Akaal Purakh in Gurbani - where, what instance and context in which they occur. topic closed.
  15. Proactive Veerji clearly i am nowhere near the spiritual level of Guru Mahraj nor of Bhai Gurdas ji. Someone who is PhD can refer to Kindergarten class however they wish. Satguru jee in Gurbani does not refer to Krishan as Krishan Maharaj yet personally when i occasionally refer to Avatars of Sanatan Dharam i tend to add the term Maharaj. Similarly i find nothing in itself wrong with saying PBUH. If you do, you're most welcome to refer to him in any way you wish. Nowhere have i condoned this or said Sangat Jee I hereby declare everyone should refer to Prophet Mohammed in this way, it's just how i personally occasionally choose to. This is not only used for Mohammed, Muslims praise the name of Jesus Christ, Moses and the names of the Old and New Testament prophets by adding the same PBUH acronym after their names. PBUH means 'Peace Be Upon Him'. It is the English meaning of the Arabic words, 'Allah's Salaam' (Alayhis salaam). Allah, Illahi, Salaam are used regularly in Gurbani so what's wrong with saying may God grant a Bhagat of another faith peace? granted we have been critical of the ways Prophets of different faiths may have "lost their way" but none of us have reached anything like that spiritual level to judge. hence even if you disagree entirely with their approach you lose nothing in affording respect.
  16. Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) is also reported to have said in a famous hadith: Verily, there are ninety-nine names of God, one hundred minus one. He who enumerates [and believes in them and the one God behind] them would get into Paradise. Of note is that this hadith does not say that there are only 99 names, but 99 names that are better than the others. Also a Sakhi worth noting: Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj did not offend and explained it came down to the Revelation by God. All Prophets could only speak the Truth of the Revelation made to them but the Revelation they received was determined by the Spiritual Stage they had reached. Akaal Purakh Revealed 7 earths & 7 skies to Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) but Revealed Countless skies and Countless earths to Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj.
  17. there are 99 Better Names of God in Islam. Unlke faiths like Sanatan Dharam, Semitic faiths tend to either fit or contradict with Sikhi and some of these Names do, however daas thought it would be interesting to look at some of them and the qualities they represent and look for mention of them as qualities of God or Gursikhi in Gurbani. (before anyone bites my head off this is in no way accurate, nor have i looked in-depth at Arth or anything but purely a 5 minuite superficial job at finding similarity in 2 distinctly different belief systems) Many of these will be incorrect, feel free to point them out and feel free to look up the others yourselves! Allah http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1191.htmlAllah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities. [*]Ar-Rahmaan The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter. Rahm: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amr...n/tr_1143a.html Ar-Raheem http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.htmlThe Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers. [*]Al-Malik The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1143a.html Al-QuddoosThe Holy, The One who is pure from any imperfection and clear from children and adversaries. [*]As-Salaam http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/25.html http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1191.html The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection. [*]Al-Mu'min Guardian of Faith, The One who witnessed for Himself that no one is God but Him. And He witnessed for His believers that they are truthful in their belief that no one is God but Him. [*]Al-Muhaimin The Protector, The One who witnesses the saying and deeds of His creatures. [*]Al-^Azeez The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/26.html http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1475.html Al-JabbaarThe Compeller, The One that nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He willed. [*]Al-Mutakabbir The Majestic, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures and from resembling them. [*]Al-Khaaliq The Creator, The One who brings everything from non-existence to existence. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html Al-Bari'The Evolver, The Maker, The Creator who has the Power to turn the entities. [*]Al-Musawwir The Fashioner, The One who forms His creatures in different pictures. [*]Al-Ghaffaar The Great Forgiver, The Forgiver, The One who forgives the sins of His slaves time and time again. [*]Al-Qahhaar The Subduer, The Dominant, The One who has the perfect Power and is not unable over anything. [*]Al-Wahhaab The Bestower, The One who is Generous in giving plenty without any return. He is everything that benefits whether Halal or Haram. [*]Al-Razzaaq http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html The Sustainer, The Provider. [*]Al-Fattaah The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge, The One who opens for His slaves the closed worldy and religious matters. Fateh: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1356.html Al-^AleemThe All-knowing, The Knowledgeable; The One nothing is absent from His knowledge. Alam:/Ilam http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1470.html Al-QaabidThe Constricter, The Retainer, The Withholder, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy. [*]Al-Baasit The Expander, The Englarger, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy. [*]Al-Khaafid The Abaser, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment. [*]Ar-Raafi^ The Exalter, The Elevator, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment. [*]Al-Mu^iz The Honorer, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem. [*]Al-Muthil The Dishonorer, The Humiliator, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem. [*]As-Samee^ The All-Hearing, The Hearer, The One who Hears all things that are heard by His Eternal Hearing without an ear, instrument or organ. [*]Al-Baseer The All-Seeing, The One who Sees all things that are seen by His Eternal Seeing without a pupil or any other instrument. [*]Al-Hakam The Judge, He is the Ruler and His judgment is His Word. Hak: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/0727.html Hukam: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/0148.html Al-^AdlThe Just, The One who is entitled to do what He does. [*]Al-Lateef The Subtle One, The Gracious, The One who is kind to His slaves and endows upon them. [*]Al-Khabeer The Aware, The One who knows the truth of things. [*]Al-Haleem The Forebearing, The Clement, The One who delays the punishment for those who deserve it and then He might forgive them. [*]Al-^Azeem The Great One, The Mighty, The One deserving the attributes of Exaltment, Glory, Extolement,and Purity from all imperfection. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/1470.html Al-GhafoorThe All-Forgiving, The Forgiving, The One who forgives a lot. [*]Ash-Shakoor The Grateful, The Appreciative, The One who gives a lot of reward for a little obedience. [*]Al-^Aliyy The Most High, The Sublime, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures. [*]Al-Kabeer The Most Great, The Great, The One who is greater than everything in status. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1374.html Al-HafeezThe Preserver, The Protector, The One who protects whatever and whoever He willed to protect. [*]Al-Muqeet The Maintainer, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer, The One who has the Power. [*]Al-Haseeb The Reckoner, The One who gives the satisfaction. [*]Aj-Jaleel The Sublime One, The Beneficent, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status. [*]Al-Kareem http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html The Generous One, The Bountiful, The Gracious, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status. [*]Ar-Raqeeb The Watcher, The Watchful, The One that nothing is absent from Him. Hence it's meaning is related to the attribute of Knowledge. [*]Al-Mujeeb The Responsive, The Hearkener, The One who answers the one in need if he asks Him and rescues the yearner if he calls upon Him. [*]Al-Wasi^ The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Knowledgeable. [*]Al-Hakeem The Wise, The Judge of Judges, The One who is correct in His doings. Hakeekat: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ib_ji/1470.html Al-WadoodThe Loving, The One who loves His believing slaves and His believing slaves love Him. His love to His slaves is His Will to be merciful to them and praise them:Hence it's meaning is related to the attributes of the Will and Kalam (His attribute with which He orders and forbids and spoke to Muhammad and Musa -peace be upon them- . It is not a sound nor a language nor a letter.). [*]Al-Majeed The Most Glorious One, The Glorious, The One who is with perfect Power, High Status, Compassion, Generosity and Kindness. [*]Al-Ba^ith The Reserrector, The Raiser (from death), The One who resurrects His slaves after death for reward and/or punishment. [*]Ash-Shaheed The Witness, The One who nothing is absent from Him. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Dasam_Granth_Sahib_ji/1475.html Al-HaqqThe Truth, The True, The One who truly exists. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/0721.html Al-WakeelThe Trustee, The One who gives the satisfaction and is relied upon. [*]Al-Qawiyy The Most Strong, The Strong, The One with the complete Power. [*]Al-Mateen The Firm One, The One with extreme Power which is un-interrupted and He does not get tired. [*]Al-Waliyy The Protecting Friend, The Supporter. [*]Al-Hameed The Praiseworthy, The praised One who deserves to be praised. [*]Al-Muhsee The Counter, The Reckoner, The One who the count of things are known to him. [*]Al-Mubdi' The Originator, The One who started the human being. That is, He created him. [*]Al-Mu^eed The Reproducer, The One who brings back the creatures after death. [*]Al-Muhyi The Restorer, The Giver of Life, The One who took out a living human from semen that does not have a soul. He gives life by giving the souls back to the worn out bodies on the resurrection day and He makes the hearts alive by the light of knowledge. [*]Al-Mumeet The Creator of Death, The Destroyer, The One who renders the living dead. [*]Al-Hayy The Alive, The One attributed with a life that is unlike our life and is not that of a combination of soul, flesh or blood. [*]Al-Qayyoom The Self-Subsisting, The One who remains and does not end. [*]Al-Waajid The Perceiver, The Finder, The Rich who is never poor. Al-Wajd is Richness. [*]Al-Waahid The Unique, The One, The One without a partner. [*]Al-Ahad The One. [*]As-Samad The Eternal, The Independent, The Master who is relied upon in matters and reverted to in ones needs. [*]Al-Qaadir The Able, The Capable, The One attributed with Power. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1165a.html Kudrat: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1191.html [*]Al-Muqtadir The Powerful, The Dominant, The One with the perfect Power that nothing is withheld from Him. [*]Al-Muqaddim The Expediter, The Promoter, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills. [*]Al-Mu'akh-khir The Delayer, the Retarder, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills. [*]Al-'Awwal The First, The One whose Existence is without a beginning. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html Al-'AkhirThe Last, The One whose Existence is without an end. [*]Az-Zaahir http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...ahib_ji/25.html The Manifest, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies. [*]Al-Baatin The Hidden, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies. [*]Al-Walee The Governor, The One who owns things and manages them. [*]Al-Muta^ali The Most Exalted, The High Exalted, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creation. [*]Al-Barr The Source of All Goodness, The Righteous, The One who is kind to His creatures, who covered them with His sustenance and specified whoever He willed among them by His support, protection, and special mercy. [*]At-Tawwaab The Acceptor of Repentance, The Relenting, The One who grants repentance to whoever He willed among His creatures and accepts his repentance. [*]Al-Muntaqim The Avenger, The One who victoriously prevails over His enemies and punishes them for their sins. It may mean the One who destroys them. [*]Al-^Afuww The Pardoner, The Forgiver, The One with wide forgiveness. [*]Ar-Ra'uf The Compassionate, The One with extreme Mercy. The Mercy of Allah is His will to endow upon whoever He willed among His creatures. [*]Malik Al-Mulk The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The One who controls the Dominion and gives dominion to whoever He willed. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_1143a.html Thul-Jalali wal-IkramThe Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The One who deserves to be Exalted and not denied. [*]Al-Muqsit The Equitable, The One who is Just in His judgment. [*]Aj-Jaami^ The Gatherer, The One who gathers the creatures on a day that there is no doubt about, that is the Day of Judgment. In contradiction to Sikhi however Gurbani does say: kabeer mayree buDh ka-o jam na karai tiskaar. Kabeer, the Messenger of Death shall not compromise my understanding. jin ih jamoo-aa sirji-aa so japi-aa parvidagaar. ||140|| I have meditated on the Lord, the Cherisher, who created this Messenger of Death. ||140|| http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri_Guru_Granth_Sahib_Maharaj_ji/1371.html Al-GhaniyyThe Self-Sufficient, The One who does not need the creation. [*]Al-Mughni The Enricher, The One who satisfies the necessities of the creatures. [*]Al-Maani^ The Preventer, The Withholder. [*]Ad-Daarr The Distresser, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed. [*]An-Nafi^ The Propitious, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed. [*]An-Noor The Light, The One who guides. http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Amrit_Kirtan/tr_0083.html Al-HaadiThe Guide, The One whom with His Guidance His belivers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them. [*]Al-Badi^ The Incomparable, The One who created the creation and formed it without any preceding example. [*]Al-Baaqi The Everlasting, The One that the state of non-existence is impossible for Him. [*]Al-Waarith The Supreme Inheritor, The Heir, The One whose Existence remains. [*]Ar-Rasheed The Guide to the Right Path, The One who guides. [*]As-Saboor The Patient, The One who does not quickly punish the sinners. Sabar as a quality of a Gursikh: http://www.rajkaregakhalsa.net/Gurbani/Sri...aj_ji/1384.html
  18. awww go onnn singh !! you known what'd be funny? if he walked around strutting like a gangster :TH:
  19. Sunee Pukaar Daataar Prabh Guru Nanak Jag Mahi Pataiaa Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj
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